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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #280 on: June 26, 2011, 07:35:52 pm »
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #281 on: June 26, 2011, 09:50:44 pm »
So get rid of Rafa bring Ancelotti in, is somehow lost in translation. Bollox I think, but still if you're happy that its not un-neccessary negativity, you stick with it mate.

What is your first language by the way? Moon? Coz its sounds like you are on it to me.   

I never mentioned loyalty by the way, you did.

Having an opinion on me by picking a couple of posts clearly shows your agenda. So whatever you wanna believe you will anyway. And there is no need for getting personal.



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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #282 on: June 26, 2011, 11:03:47 pm »
Blimey. Another 'stop the negativity thread'! Fair points Terry, real shame it has to be consistently posted. My first ever post on Rawk said much the same thing but it never stops. Haters will always hate, everyone's an itk, and everyone knows who we should and shouldn't sign.

Rather than trying to convert the damned, I think they're better off ignored. 90% of Lfc fans I know, old and young, have never even heard of Rawk, and let me tell you they appreciate where we are today under Kenny and FSG compared to where we were last year. Unfortunately the Internet often brings out the worst in the worst kind of people. Not one of these c*nts would dare take their seat at Anfield and spout half the shite they do in here. Let's face it, the majority have never even been to Anfield.

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #283 on: June 26, 2011, 11:04:07 pm »
Yes, but this is a football forum, what do people expect?

The last time I pointed out in detail WHY I think that Torres is better than Carroll I was called an idiot, for a start, but that´s the way it is, no problem whatsover.

What I find rather disturbing recently is the constant drama coming up when somebody simply states an opinion on a player. Like not being happy with LFC possibly signing Young f.e.(which didn´t happen anyway).

How on earth should this be disrespectful or some sort of moaning? What do you guys expect in the transfer window? We could discuss the color of the new away kit but I am afraid to dissapoint the lot of you here as well.. it´s all about personal opinions here either.

No offense.


You missed my point. Personally, I'm fine with anyone offering an opinion on any player (or manager), whether one of ours or someone we're linked with. The point is the quality of the posts - there's a difference between "I don't think Downing is what we need/good enough/etc" and "he's shit". Same for our own players. The point of the thread I think is that people should be able to say "I don't think Downing is what we need", without saying "OMG what the fuck are Dalglish/Comolli/FSG doing". Etc.
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #284 on: June 27, 2011, 05:53:50 am »
I'm looking forward to having Kenny in charge for a full season, the players we buy and sell are secondary,
because just look how he turned it around last season.

There will be a lot of pressure and anything other than a top 4 finish won't be good enough for most, especially with all negativity shown towards the end about wether we would or wouldn't be in the Europa next season.
So I don't see many being happy finishing 5th next season.

For me it is more about the kind of football we play, pass and move is back, belief is back, enjoying watching us is back,
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #285 on: June 27, 2011, 06:35:29 am »
I think that this thread was well intentioned but mis-timed.  Of course, people are going to say Downing is shit.  People probably said that about Paulsen at the time we were linked to him but hadn't signed him yet.  You can't endorse them saying it about one player but not the other without your whole position being contradicted.

I think we should start a thread like this during the actual season when all the muppets freak out after one or two losses and start questioning everything.  It is THEN that we need to tell the to shut the fvck up and have some patience.  But, it's called silly season for a reason.  I'm extremely optimistic about the coming season but that doesn't mean that I'm going to be gushing with positivity at every waking minute. 

Btw, Downing is average as far as I'm concerned.  He's not shit, but average isn't really what we want.  If the King goes for him, then I'll accept that he may have qualities I have over-looked or may be a good option to link up with the other players.  I'll support him 100 percent but that doesn't mean that I shouldn't voice reservations about our signing him right now.  Until he is one of our own, I'll be hoping for better (at least IMHO better) options on the wing.

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #286 on: June 27, 2011, 07:44:27 am »
How sad that this topic has to exist.

Totally agree with the sentiments, but a lot of utter c*nts/blerts/wankers won't, or will try to talk shite and criticise in a less obvious way.
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #287 on: June 27, 2011, 08:24:43 am »
Good post
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #288 on: June 27, 2011, 08:36:00 am »
I guess a lot of us are still on edge from last season and T****s leaving .

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #289 on: June 27, 2011, 09:18:41 am »
If you think it's negative now, just wait until Mata signs for someone else and the "big signing" (TM) doesn't materialise.  It will be pandemonium.

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People need to chill.  Like I said before, I'm just loving this summer and looking forward to a new season with a new found optimism.  Not blind optimism that we will win the title for the next 5 years, but a feeling that the season will be about football rather than scandal, swindles and managerial changes.

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #290 on: June 27, 2011, 12:30:18 pm »
I think that negativity or even positivity belongs to that Transfer Forum. As long as it does not come in here I am happy. leave that forum to be the people's parliament.

I am lucky that I never really speculate about transfers simply because I realised many moons ago that the quality of a player can only be determined by the players around him, the systems employed to make them look good and the intelligence or lack thereof of the manager+coaches.

Would I want Stevie and Lampard in my team. Definitely yes. Does their partnership work for England... I am a South African therefore I am not the one to pass that judgement but from what I have heard in these corners NOT every one is happy with their combined contribution.

Who knew Alonso [or his quality] when we decided to sign him... definitely not me. What is my opinion of the man now. The Best. Better still who knew Joe Cole before we signed him. What is the opinion now???

SOOOOOO let Kenny and co. to do the stealth talking and let the transfer forum to be as negative/positive as they like because it is only at this time next year we are going to know whether we bought Alonso or Joe Cole.
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #291 on: June 27, 2011, 12:50:21 pm »
Great thread, completely agree with the original post. I guess it is pretty hard not to get really excited by the Mata speculation etc, and this makes other players look mediocre in comparison, but obviously if you said we would have Kenny, Suarez, Carroll, and further investment in good players back in the Hodgson days, especially before the takeover it would sound too good to be true.

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #292 on: June 27, 2011, 08:10:53 pm »
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #293 on: June 28, 2011, 01:55:19 am »
Well said Terry. There are so many threads on here  that are negative ones. So many good posters are leaving  . This last year has been appaling the amount that has left. Why cant people  just stand back and take a look at where we are now  against all the  odds ---- at the  begining of the season, and to  where we could of been had not Kenny come back and gave the impetus and vigour to turn things around. Im afraid i think a lot of these  so  called  fans  talkout there arses, So my hat off to you  Terry for saying what needed to be said . Just trust in the judgement of those that are appointed to do the  job, they obviously see the potentials that maybe we dont.
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #294 on: June 28, 2011, 07:59:12 am »
Good post Terry.

Problem is that some people think they know better than the experts. Has always been the case. The Internet just gives these people the platform to tell everyone they know best.

If we were 6 months into the season and struggling I could understand the angst. This level of angst when we haven't even started pre-season training is baffling. It's not helpful either.
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #295 on: June 28, 2011, 12:06:55 pm »
Good post Terry.

Problem is that some people think they know better than the experts. Has always been the case. The Internet just gives these people the platform to tell everyone they know best.

You mean like the appointment of Hodgson? You won´t believe it but even the transfers of Purslow have been critised back than... in all due negativity ;)

Sometimes you are right, sometimes you are wrong, that´s just the way it is with an opinion on an internet forum.. there is really no further importance to that other than some on here feel offended by that..


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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #296 on: June 28, 2011, 12:41:21 pm »
Superb OP, oh and the transfer forum makes me want to reach for a fucking handgun.

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #297 on: June 28, 2011, 01:03:47 pm »
Maybe its time to start a topic on "Why Liverpool FC today has made you smile"........I believe this man alone could give you 1001 reasons to beam

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #298 on: June 28, 2011, 01:29:16 pm »
Hear hear Terry.

Nothing is as bad, or ever could be as bad, as Paul Konchesky, the poor git. (ok maybe Degen, remember him?)
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #299 on: June 28, 2011, 11:02:27 pm »
Heres a list of players off the top of my head we have missed out on through pissin about on transfer fees.

Alves
Malouda
Villa
Simao
Arshavin
Vidic
Evra
Walcott
Ramsey

Moral of the story.  Be thankful for finally fuckin gettin our transfer targets and not being outbid for them.  At least now we are matching other teams in their valuations.

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #300 on: June 28, 2011, 11:05:20 pm »
It's like a bad episode of the twilight zone in that transfer forum, my heart goes out to the poor mods who have to try and maintain order in there.

I posted a gentle pisstaking post based on a bit of semantic pedantry in the Transfer Chat and the natives took it at face value as if I was being serious.  WTF?
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #301 on: June 28, 2011, 11:12:05 pm »
Heres a list of players off the top of my head we have missed out on through pissin about on transfer fees.

Alves
Malouda
Villa
Simao
Arshavin
Vidic
Evra
Walcott
Ramsey

Moral of the story.  Be thankful for finally fuckin gettin our transfer targets and not being outbid for them.  At least now we are matching other teams in their valuations.
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #302 on: June 29, 2011, 12:05:06 am »
Ronaldo had owt to do with finance if I remember correctly. PT said GH didn't think he'd work in the prem I think.
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« Reply #303 on: June 29, 2011, 12:34:47 am »
Ronaldo had owt to do with finance if I remember correctly. PT said GH didn't think he'd work in the prem I think.
Not according to Fowlers book. In which he said GH and PT were humming and harring over a £1m signing on fee and the impact it might have on the dressing room if others found out about it, when United stepped in and took him from under our nose.
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #304 on: June 29, 2011, 03:23:31 am »
Not according to Fowlers book. In which he said GH and PT were humming and harring over a £1m signing on fee and the impact it might have on the dressing room if others found out about it, when United stepped in and took him from under our nose.


Thommo said in his book it was his and Houllier's decision, the problem being that he wanted huge wages and it would have upset Le Tallec and Pongolle that someone the same age was on so much more than them. It would be weird of him to take "credit" for that if it wasn't true, given how things turned out.
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #305 on: June 29, 2011, 06:43:16 am »
Not according to Fowlers book. In which he said GH and PT were humming and harring over a £1m signing on fee and the impact it might have on the dressing room if others found out about it, when United stepped in and took him from under our nose.

Hindsight is unfair, but how shortsighted that decision looks today...

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #306 on: June 29, 2011, 07:19:53 am »
bout time a topic like this turned up, bunch of idiots around still complaining about our players

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« Reply #307 on: June 29, 2011, 07:22:44 am »
It's like a bad episode of the twilight zone in that transfer forum, my heart goes out to the poor mods who have to try and maintain order in there.

I posted a gentle pisstaking post based on a bit of semantic pedantry in the Transfer Chat and the natives took it at face value as if I was being serious.  WTF?

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #308 on: June 29, 2011, 01:34:47 pm »
I really don't see that we have got much to complain about as a football club and as fans. We've been through a turbulent period of ownership and management which has ended in 6 months of stability with Kenny and John Henry at the helm. Kenny has turned things around on the pitch and Henry appears to be doing so off the pitch - we may be entitled to a bit of a moan about ticket prices and the members selling process for the forthcoming season but those things are as much a part if the wider problems in the game as they are about our football club.

I really believe things are progressing well at the club and that Kenny/Clarke/Comolli have things under control player wise and coaching wise. We should be excited about the new season and be waiting for it with anticipation rather than complaining about who we have or have not signed.

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #309 on: June 29, 2011, 01:37:09 pm »
I really don't see that we have got much to complain about as a football club and as fans. We've been through a turbulent period of ownership and management which has ended in 6 months of stability with Kenny and John Henry at the helm. Kenny has turned things around on the pitch and Henry appears to be doing so off the pitch - we may be entitled to a bit of a moan about ticket prices and the members selling process for the forthcoming season but those things are as much a part if the wider problems in the game as they are about our football club.

I really believe things are progressing well at the club and that Kenny/Clarke/Comolli have things under control player wise and coaching wise. We should be excited about the new season and be waiting for it with anticipation rather than complaining about who we have or have not signed.
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #310 on: June 30, 2011, 04:28:40 pm »
Not according to Fowlers book. In which he said GH and PT were humming and harring over a £1m signing on fee and the impact it might have on the dressing room if others found out about it, when United stepped in and took him from under our nose.

Fair enough, I don't remember that bit in Fowler's book. Why would he know about that when he was effectively frozen out by the GH and Thommo regime?


Thommo said in his book it was his and Houllier's decision, the problem being that he wanted huge wages and it would have upset Le Tallec and Pongolle that someone the same age was on so much more than them. It would be weird of him to take "credit" for that if it wasn't true, given how things turned out.

Haven't read Thommo's book yet, in the bookcase waiting for the next holiday.

Fair enough to both of you though, I stand corrected, it was obviously a wages over value thing. I could have sworn it was because they thought he was too much of a fanny and not worth the risk!
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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #311 on: June 30, 2011, 04:54:56 pm »
Kenny's in the dugout.

Que sera sera.

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #312 on: July 7, 2011, 02:52:04 am »
Kenny's in the dugout.

Que sera sera.

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Re: Negativity needs to stop....
« Reply #313 on: July 7, 2011, 04:13:25 am »
I really don't see that we have got much to complain about as a football club and as fans. We've been through a turbulent period of ownership and management which has ended in 6 months of stability with Kenny and John Henry at the helm. Kenny has turned things around on the pitch and Henry appears to be doing so off the pitch - we may be entitled to a bit of a moan about ticket prices and the members selling process for the forthcoming season but those things are as much a part if the wider problems in the game as they are about our football club.

I really believe things are progressing well at the club and that Kenny/Clarke/Comolli have things under control player wise and coaching wise. We should be excited about the new season and be waiting for it with anticipation rather than complaining about who we have or have not signed.

Definitely. Considering the position we were in 8 months, it's quite a turnaround. The ramifications of what occurred during the H&G era and the Hodgson/Purslow tenures are being corrected. It will take time, but at present the results are looking very positive. Rome wasn't built in a day. We are getting back to where we should be on and off the pitch.