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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #560 on: April 17, 2012, 06:28:25 pm »
He's a good player in my opinion, if he's willing to make the effort to be a success here there he could do well but the wages are definately an issue, wasn't he on something like 90k a week ?

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #561 on: April 17, 2012, 06:46:05 pm »
He's a good player in my opinion, if he's willing to make the effort to be a success here there he could do well but the wages are definately an issue, wasn't he on something like 90k a week ?
I'd rather sell Cole for a Mars bar, save the money and get Pacheco back.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #562 on: April 17, 2012, 06:47:26 pm »
can we also get poulsen back cos we need cover for lucas

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #563 on: April 17, 2012, 06:47:29 pm »
I'd rather sell Cole for a Mars bar, save the money and get Pacheco back.

This.

I'll throw in a pack of Gitanes as well.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #564 on: April 17, 2012, 06:52:55 pm »
I'd rather sell Cole for a Mars bar, save the money and get Pacheco back.

I'd rather have pacheco back, definately, i still dont know much about what happened with cole here though so i wont throw out insults.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #565 on: April 17, 2012, 07:17:10 pm »

And if not, hopefully 'arry will still be around to take him off our hands. Just needs an arm around the shoulder our Joe, t'rific little player.

Unfortunately I don't think Harry will have a job that allows him to buy players next year.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #566 on: April 17, 2012, 08:21:58 pm »
My abiding memory of him is coming on in about the 89th  ;Dminute of a game and looking fucked and out of breath before he got to the fucking left side.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #567 on: April 17, 2012, 08:45:52 pm »
Its amazing what disappearing for a few months will do for your reputation.

Joe Cole is shite.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #568 on: April 17, 2012, 08:48:33 pm »
urgh.
same thing thats srawled across the stars is written under our skin

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #569 on: April 17, 2012, 08:49:17 pm »
Its amazing what disappearing for a few months will do for your reputation.

Joe Cole is shite.

so true, even at his peak he was so overrated it was a joke! give me yossi anyday

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #570 on: April 17, 2012, 08:53:10 pm »
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I'd rather sell Cole for a Mars bar, save the money and get Pacheco back.

I can never believe how overrated Pacheco is on here, what can some of you see that people with a vast experience in football not see?

it's not as though KK doesn't rate him but other top managers are clamouring to take him off us......

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #571 on: April 17, 2012, 08:54:03 pm »
Cole is shite, I'm glad he's had a decent time at Lille, hopefully means we'll actually get a decent transfer fee for him.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #572 on: April 17, 2012, 08:59:50 pm »
You seem to forget that he was decent before he came to us and now at Lille. He started most games, on the bench for some now but he's pretty much always in the squad!

He's a decent player and could potentially be better than a lot of our signings.

The 'Shit league' excuse is crazy, that's also the one that Hazard, who's made out to be Zidane comes from.
If it didn't cost us shitloads in wages to keep him on, he could have been an ok rotation player to have in the squad, if he'd just make a real effort. But that's not the reality. And even if that was reality, he shouldn't really be a top priority. So I can't see the point in debating him, we should just try to get him completely off our wage bill and move on.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #573 on: April 17, 2012, 08:59:59 pm »
Two more years of paying Joe Cole to play for someone else, or paying him 90,000 a week to sit on the bench.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #574 on: April 17, 2012, 09:59:10 pm »
I'd rather sell Cole for a Mars bar, save the money and get Pacheco back.
Just get rid of both.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #575 on: April 17, 2012, 10:00:20 pm »
Two more years of paying Joe Cole to play for someone else, or paying him 90,000 a week to sit on the bench.

I'm pretty sure Lille are covering most if not all of his wages! If not, we'd have sold him quicker than anything.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #576 on: April 17, 2012, 10:02:40 pm »
I'm pretty sure Lille are covering most if not all of his wages! If not, we'd have sold him quicker than anything.

I vaguely remember reading that we're paying most of his wages.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #577 on: April 17, 2012, 10:02:59 pm »
I'm pretty sure Lille are covering most if not all of his wages! If not, we'd have sold him quicker than anything.

We're paying the bulk of his wages. Lille are making a contribution. Think we're also paying a lot of Poulsen's currently too.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #578 on: April 17, 2012, 10:03:57 pm »
We're paying the bulk of his wages. Lille are making a contribution. Think we're also paying a lot of Poulsen's currently too.

Think we managed to get rid of Poulsen, thank fuck.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #579 on: April 17, 2012, 10:09:04 pm »
We're paying the bulk of his wages. Lille are making a contribution. Think we're also paying a lot of Poulsen's currently too.

Poulsen was sold! I really doubt we're paying Joes wages though - if that were the case we would have just got rid of him back to West Ham or a lower Prem team, would make no sense to loan him out.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #580 on: April 17, 2012, 10:11:07 pm »
Think we managed to get rid of Poulsen, thank fuck.

We're still reported as paying a substantial amount of his wages.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #581 on: April 17, 2012, 10:11:13 pm »
Poulsen was sold! I really doubt we're paying Joes wages though - if that were the case we would have just got rid of him back to West Ham or a lower Prem team, would make no sense to loan him out.

No one was willing to pay his wages, and he wouldn't have accepted a move to a lower Prem team.

This was the best we could do, reduce the wages we pay him, and get him out of the squad as he was never going to play.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #582 on: April 17, 2012, 10:13:14 pm »
We're still reported as paying a substantial amount of his wages.

Wasn't aware of that, just shows what a major fuck up that signing was. Can't believe we payed a good 4-5m million for him.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #583 on: April 17, 2012, 10:17:10 pm »
We're still reported as paying a substantial amount of his wages.

Pretty sure thats against regulatory rules and I really question any "reports" when the official statement declares he left on a transfer for an undisclosed fee.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #584 on: April 17, 2012, 10:18:41 pm »
Poulsen was sold.

Cole is getting paid 1/3 (of 90k pw) from Lille and the remaining from us.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #585 on: April 17, 2012, 10:19:08 pm »
Wasn't aware of that, just shows what a major fuck up that signing was. Can't believe we payed a good 4-5m million for him.

Yeah mate. Think general point is that while Cole is under contract to us, unless he's willing to take the paycut (and he's under no obligation to) then it'll continue to cost us. That summer's work was possibly the worst I can remember. File it under cost of the Hodgson period. But we'll pay for it for years.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #586 on: April 17, 2012, 10:19:42 pm »
Poulsen was sold.

Cole is getting paid 1/3 (of 90k pw) from Lille and the remaining from us.

You can take it or leave it, but being sold doesn't mean we're not contributing to his wages.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #587 on: April 17, 2012, 10:20:02 pm »
He has been on the bench in Lille for most of the season.

Good player a few years back and obviously a nice lad but he'll be sold in the summer and rightly so.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #588 on: April 17, 2012, 10:47:00 pm »
id prefer to have maxi in the squad every day over joey

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #589 on: April 17, 2012, 11:57:55 pm »
Its amazing what disappearing for a few months will do for your reputation.

Joe Cole is shite.

He has been playing well for Lille though.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #590 on: April 18, 2012, 12:19:46 am »
But whats the point in having him back even if he is having a half decent season with lille? He's not even as good as maxi. He'd just take up room on the bench and leave less room in the squad for youngsters like sterling and suso.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #591 on: April 18, 2012, 12:24:39 am »
I'm undecided on Cole. He's obviosuly a quality player who would get into a few top sides (on his 'A' game) it seems aparent he's not wanted though. He's hardly been given a fair crack, the lad was never fit for us.

His MASSIVE wage is a problem.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #592 on: April 18, 2012, 12:24:42 am »
He will never justify his wage.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #593 on: April 18, 2012, 12:32:31 am »
Yeah mate. Think general point is that while Cole is under contract to us, unless he's willing to take the paycut (and he's under no obligation to) then it'll continue to cost us. That summer's work was possibly the worst I can remember. File it under cost of the Hodgson period. But we'll pay for it for years.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #594 on: April 18, 2012, 06:40:13 pm »
I can never believe how overrated Pacheco is on here, what can some of you see that people with a vast experience in football not see?

it's not as though KK doesn't rate him but other top managers are clamouring to take him off us......

If swapping a 30+ year old ex Ingurland international on 90k aweek for a 21 year old Spanish International on 30/40k???a week is overating Pacheco...
Then yes i'm overating Pacheco probably because all those Spanish U17,U18,U19,U20 and U21 National team coaches are overating him.


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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #595 on: April 18, 2012, 08:29:36 pm »
If swapping a 30+ year old ex Ingurland international on 90k aweek for a 21 year old Spanish International on 30/40k???a week is overating Pacheco...
Then yes i'm overating Pacheco probably because all those Spanish U17,U18,U19,U20 and U21 National team coaches are overating him.



There are big question marks over both of them, Pacheco has been publicly questioned over his commitment and focus (It's all well and good having ability, but we've seen plenty of talented players having flash in the pan success because they lose focus and don't apply themselves)

For me we need to find buyers for both players.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #596 on: April 18, 2012, 08:48:29 pm »
He has been on the bench in Lille for most of the season.

Good player a few years back and obviously a nice lad but he'll be sold in the summer and rightly so.
Incorrect. He has started in half of their league games, and has also started 5 of Lille's 6 Champions League games.
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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #597 on: April 18, 2012, 09:42:40 pm »
I'm undecided on Cole. He's obviosuly a quality player who would get into a few top sides (on his 'A' game) it seems aparent he's not wanted though. He's hardly been given a fair crack, the lad was never fit for us.

His MASSIVE wage is a problem.

He is not good enough to offer what we need. We need an attacking midfielder who can be a leading player for us. We can easily find another Cole or Jova. What we need is a younger Maxi or Kuyt, a player who can play a major role in the side. A player who gets 15 goals+assists every season should be our target.

Agree the wages are a problem. Unbelievable we spent that much on a player who also made the age mix even worse in LM/RM. That stupid decision forced Kenny to spend on new players for LM/RM. The decision to sign Cole was a very basic mistake by the management.

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #598 on: April 18, 2012, 09:46:15 pm »
Is he at Lille just because its close to London? If he up for playing in Italy could see one of the top half clubs making a move

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Re: Joe Cole on loan to Lille confirmed
« Reply #599 on: April 20, 2012, 08:35:38 am »
If you can't walk in a straight line.... you shouldn't be playing for Liverpool. End of