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Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« on: August 30, 2017, 08:18:12 PM »
Welcome to Liverpool Football Club Alex. You should really have done this back in 2011 and saved yourself a rough 6 years at Arsenal, but all is now forgiven :D

So what should we expect from our newest addition?

Part 1 - Why Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

Firstly, it is said he lacks production - i.e. goals and assists. However, if your only measurement of attacking performance is goals ( or even goals and assists) then you will run into trouble pretty quickly when trying to understand the value and usefulness in important players. Let me give you an example.

Lukaku is brilliant at scoring goals. He is powerful and hard to stop. So what is the easiest way to stop him?
- Control the supply to him. Force him to receive in non-threatening areas only.

Okay so how easy is that? At Everton that pretty much meant stopping Barkley. How easy is that?
- Very easy. He is tactically one of the stupidest players I have seen. You can easily separate him from Lukaku and push him into non-effective areas and force him into taking risks in areas of little to no rewards for doing so.

So therefore if your best link player is Barkley, you can completely nullify an attack by simply nullifying Barkley which is remarkably easy to do. This is what happens when Liverpool play Everton. We simply cut the tether between those players and then shut down all their secondary supply lines to Lukaku. He starts drifting just to get touches on the ball and you have him trying to bully Lovren inside his own half on a 50/50 ball. Completely nullified.

In contrast, Liverpool. Mane is good at scoring goals. As is Firmino. And Salah. And Coutinho. How do you stop them all? At the moment our supply is out in Lallana & Coutinho, and yet we still make very dangerous things happen every single game with them both missing at the moment.

Another question - If Everton kept Lukaku, signed Seri to replace Barkley. How easy now would it be to cut the supply to Lukaku? Seri's production at Everton would likely be equal at best to Barkley. However, instead of someone who wants to be a star of the team worrying about his own numbers, Seri's entire focus is on the team. That Xavi-like game intelligence, movement and passing (albeit on a lower level ability wise).

Look at players in terms of a skillset rather than production. For a team to be effective, it needs a healthy mix of a variety of skillsets. For me, the most crucial one is players that can operate in tight spaces, offer penetration and an ability to destabilise a low block. We have lots of players who can score goals. Mane, Salah, Firmino, Sturridge, Origi, Solanke, Ings, Gini, Lallana, Coutinho - they all look good for 7+ goals per season. However, in terms of players who can link the front 3 to the rest of our team in a low block, we have Lallana, Coutinho then who? Woodburn maybe? Dhanda? Thus we end up needing to go around the block everytime. This worked against Palace, but the second your attacks have a  distinctive pattern, you are easy to stop as we demonstrated with Lukaku above.

Oxlade Chamberlain is something we don't have. A Lallana/Coutinho type player with that penetration in midfield coupled with pace. It is that little burst of pace that makes Coutinho more effective than Lallana in terms of playing through the lines of a team. Lallana has the skills to beat people but not really to then burn away from them. Sure, Lallana & Coutinho are both better, more complete players than Chamberlain now. But he still has that skillset we are sorely lacking in, and a unique approach to it that we lack. Keita offers that same skillset (and a fuckload of others) also. We need to add as many players as we can like this into our squad rather than finding reasons to just dismiss them, talk about signing DM's, more goalscorers, etc. Those things will not dictate how effective we are in the league. Our ability to break down a low block will. As Pep showed last season, and throughout his career, there are certain types of players who will help you in this pursuit. They look a lot like Chamberlain.

Part 2 - Can he unlock sides with creative passing?


I want to show the statistical output of Arsenal & Liverpool players in terms of their creative passing.

Key Passes(KP)/90 = This shows the number of goalscoring chances created per 90 minutes played. A goalscoring chance ranges from laying the ball off for a Coutinho shot 35 yards out or Firmino's cross to Can against Hoffenheim. Both = 1 Key Pass
Expected Assists(xA)/90 = This is the value of all goalscoring chances created per 90 minutes played. Effectively this is the likelihood of creating a goal every 90 minutes played. Laying the ball off to Coutinho to score a 35 yard screaming = xA 0,01. Firmino's cross to Can = xA 0,91.
xA/KP = This is the average value of the chances a player creates. A high score can mean the chances a player creates a typically good goalscoring chances. E.g. Welbeck created the least chances on this list, however the very few he created were good goalscoring chances. This should be looked at in conjunction with KP/90.
Assists/90 = This is actual output. How many assists were created on average per game played.

Anybody scoring orange/red in most if not all categories is a player who is highly involved in the teams creative output. Anybody who is red in multiple categories is showing an elite output. Anybody scoring very high in one category and low not in any others is likely an outlier and can be dismissed.

Player      Key Passes(KP)/90    Expected Assists(xA)/90   xA/KP   Assists/90
Mesut Özil      2,88    0,26   0,09   0,28
Philippe Coutinho      2,33    0,25   0,11   0,28
Roberto Firmino      2,05   0,23   0,11   0,21
Alexis Sánchez      1,9    0,25   0,13   0,28
Sadio Mané      1,57    0,18   0,11   0,2
Daniel Sturridge      1,52   0,19  0,13   0,12
Jack Wilshere      1,48    0,13   0,09   0,09
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain     1,44    0,26   0,18   0,4
Alex Iwobi      1,42    0,14   0,1   0,18
Aaron Ramsey      1,39    0,32   0,23   0,29
Adam Lallana      1,34    0,16   0,12   0,27
Granit Xhaka      1,19    0,08   0,06   0,07
Jordan Henderson      1,19    0,11   0,09   0,17
Emre Can      1,18    0,08   0,07   0,08
Santiago Cazorla      1,16    0,12   0,1  0,29
Olivier Giroud      1,06    0,15   0,14   0,23
Georginio Wijnaldum      1,03   0,16   0,16   0,27
Divock Origi      0,8    0,1   0,12   0,19
Francis Coquelin      0,76    0,03   0,04   0
Theo Walcott      0,51    0,12   0,23   0,09
Mohamed Elneny      0,39    0,02   0,04   0,13
Danny Welbeck      0,36    0,14   0,39   0,24


Also wanted to show Dribbling on it's own because it's usually the most important element to breaking down a low block.

Player      Dribbles/90
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain         3,51   
Alexis Sánchez         3,04   
Philippe Coutinho         2,81   
Sadio Mané         2,73   
Jack Wilshere         2,72   
Roberto Firmino         2,02   
Daniel Sturridge         1,99   
Theo Walcott         1,92   
Alex Iwobi         1,72   
Aaron Ramsey         1,46   
Santiago Cazorla         1,31   
Adam Lallana         1,27   
Divock Origi         1,17   
Mesut Özil         1,01   
Georginio Wijnaldum         0,91   
Francis Coquelin         0,91   
Emre Can         0,8   
Granit Xhaka         0,69   
Mohamed Elneny         0,39   
Danny Welbeck         0,36   
Jordan Henderson         0,21   
Olivier Giroud         0,15   

So, statistically speaking, he is perfect for our system in that Lallana/Coutinho role. Or in a wide forward role as a creative hub rather than a goalscorer. Which is fine as we have fucking tonnes of players who can finish.

Part 3 - Who is he similar to? Ibe? Barkley? Coutinho?

Chamberlain vs Ibe

Similar or nothing at all alike other than running fast past people with the ball?

Player      Key Passes(KP)/90    Expected Assists(xA)/90   xA/KP   Assists/90
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain      1,44    0,26   0,18   0,4
Jordan Ibe      1,53    0,09   0,06   0,00

My eye test tells me Ibe is ineffective as he only knows how to run fast in straight lines rather than attack dangerous areas. Therefore his use is limited other than a counter attacking player in behind teams. Against a low block he will simply run down it's sides and across it's front. Nothing to destablize the shape of it and no other tools to use to break it down to fall back on. All he has is dribbling + pace. Stats back that up. He scouts as someone who creates a high volume of shite chances which nobody turns into goals.




Chamberlain vs Barkley

Similar or nothing at all alike other than their ability to complete passes in the final 3rd being similar and how often they touch the ball in the box?
Player      Key Passes(KP)/90    Expected Assists(xA)/90   xA/KP   Assists/90
Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain      1,44    0,26   0,18   0,4
Ross Barkley      2,35    0,22   0,1   0,25

My eye test tells me Barkley is technically excellent but tactically crap. He takes up poor positions. Can easily be removed from the game by encouraging him to play in lower risk areas. Allows himself to become detached from Lukaku too easily (see Kane-Alli for an example how that COULD work). Barkley needs a coach like Rafa to educate him tactically and mould him into a more complete player the way Rafa did with Gerrard. This isn't to compare their relative abilities or skills as players, mere just to show how Gerrard's weakness was addressed early on by Rafa in his career turning a very talented average output player into a world class high output player. The stats above tend to back that up.

He scouts as someone who creates a high volume of average quality chances which an elite finisher turns into goals. Does that sound accurate? Dribbles about half as much as Chamberlain too.




Chamberlain vs Coutinho

Similar or nothing at all alike? I would say Chamberlain is similar in terms of penetration & creativity but not the goalscoring. Which we don't actually need him for at all. We have people for that already.

What all this shows for AoC is that he is at elite or near elite levels for dribbling, attacking passing, passes into the box and expected assists per 90. Also above average in throughballs, open play chances created and touches in the box. He also rarely loses the ball despite an exceptionally high amount of dribbling. This all points to a lockpick type player. He is doing things in tight areas to an extremely high success rate. What this doesn't show is his pace, which makes all of that stuff far more effective. But we can see things like the pace of a player with a quick scouting job on youtube.

So if you are imagining a player who would want to move between the lines of a side, or to destabilize a low block, and try to imagine what things you would want them to do at very high volumes successfully - your are basically listening the things AoC is at elite levels at statistically speaking in order.
1. Dribbling. (especially his high success rate at high volume)
2. Attacking Passing (indicates a high volume of forward passing high up the pitch with a high success rate)
3. Expected Assists (indicates his ability to get the ball into goalscoring positions consistently to the right players)
4. OP(open play) Passes into the box (How many passes he completes in the opponents box. Our two elite players in the squad in this metric are Coutinho & Lallana).
5. Throughballs - self explanatory

You give Klopp that player, add pace on top, that is going to fuck teams up. Doesn't matter if he scores goals or not himself, that will ruin a low block. That is the 5 key numbers you would see if you looked at Silva, De Bruyne, Messi, Coutinho, Lallana, Isco... basically any player who would thrive against a compact defence. They offer other additional things too. But that is the platform that any lockpick needs to base the rest of their game around. Of course you need to scout the player too, just make sure those numbers align with what he does on the pitch. Chamberlain scouts very well also, as the video I will post below show also.

When you have someone putting up those numbers, and their every touch and compilation videos shows you the areas, consistency, pace and technique in which he is doing them, that is a player you can put to work in Klopp's system for sure in multiple roles.

Part 4 - I've seen the stats, but I don't know how that fits into our midfield

As mentioned, he has played a handful of times in central midfield, only two of which have every touch compilations. On of the problems he often encountered was he was usually played in a double #6 behind Ozil, or as an #8 beside Ramsey. Both players who have no discipline whatsoever and thus the midfield easily gets overrun. Plus he is a pressing player in a side who focus on shape for containment - as show against Bayern with his tantrum.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/sOcVNnfKUH4" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/sOcVNnfKUH4</a>

This is him playing as a #6 against Hull in a low block.
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/KiZFbocCQ_c" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/KiZFbocCQ_c</a>

So compared to the Liverpool v Palace match you just watched some days ago, how would you describe the penetration of his passes from deeper areas? Doesn't do much dribbling here as he is a #6, the Henderson/Alonso role. Therefore it's more about passing through to the creative players than being one himself. However in that Palace game we failed to complete passes, or even touch the ball really, in zone 14 - the space central right in front of their goal. Instead we had to go round them in the absence of a player to go through them. While it worked that game, it does make our attack predictable and therefore unsustainable.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Ah76mIQmc6Q" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Ah76mIQmc6Q</a>

This is him playing as an #8 against Southampton. Some things to look at here in terms of facing a low block.
1) 0:56 plays through the midfield line centrally into zone 14. Something we did a grand total of 0 times against Palace.
2) Does it again at 1:17
3) 1:30 Long through ball resulting in goal.
4) 2:45 another chipped through ball
5) 3:00 Tactical dribbling. Losses the ball but the intent is to get around the midfield press then attack zone 14 to commit defenders. If you succeed at this 2 or 3 times per game, you are pretty much guaranteed 1 or 2 goals. This is a trademark Coutinho run.
6) 3:10 A diagonal forward ball from half space into zone 14. If the Arsenal player can escape the press here the entire Southampton defensive line collapses.
7) 3:22 - another long through ball this time splitting CB and FB. A toenail away from pulling it off too.
8.) 3:37 - another chipped through ball getting a player behind the defence on a counter.
9) 4:30 - dribble into the box, short through ball gets player behind the defence in the box ultimately resulting in a goal.
10) 5:20 - another chipped through ball over a low block in behind the defence in the box.
11) 6:07 - another through ball on the counter results in a 1-v-1

That is a long list of very penetrating touches. Even though it finished 5-0 in the end, he was doing those things at 0-0, set up the first goal, then continued doing them at 1-0 and onwards.

Watching that, can you see Klopp having a use for him in midfield? Do you see why many of us see him fitting in our midfield in Lallana's place during his injury and even long term given his age? And while yes, videos can make any player great, this is why you align it to stats to see if this output is something he produces consistently or a one off. The stats say he has consistent output in terms of creative passing, through ball, passes into the box, dribbles, etc.

This isn't cherry picking. He's literally played a handful of times in a central midfield last season and these are the only videos every touch that exist for him doing so. I cannot find any videos of his other 2 or 3 central midfield performances.

Summary
I like him.

I want to be clear though, I am not saying he is like, or a replacement for, Coutinho. I was demonstrating how he is a FAR more well rounded player than people give him credit for and closer to the level of Coutinho in that regard than the likes of Ibe or Barkley that have been trotted out as comparisons of "other shite English players".

They look nothing alike in terms of how they play when you watch them, however, the net result in terms of what they provide on the pitch in terms of breaking through the lines, playing in tight spaces, committing players in a low block, and creating good goal scoring chances for team mates are very similar.

He is obviously not without his weaknesses but then that is true of all players. We aren't trying to sign a 24 year old Steven Gerrard here. It's just a player with a skillset we need that is sorely lacking so far this season who will be useful for us to have going forward. He could grow into much more for Klopp, in the way Kevin Großkreutz did at Dortmund as a versatile player who was used more often than not. Who knows. It should be fun finding out with more meep meep than ever before in this side.

« Last Edit: August 31, 2017, 12:09:11 PM by SP »
Gonna stay behind at work and wait to see what happens.

I am betting some split arse and crying.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2017, 12:01:42 PM »
http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/273784-reds-complete-signing-of-alex-oxlade-chamberlain

 Liverpool FC have completed the signing of Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain from Arsenal.

The England international penned a long-term contract with the Reds after a medical was conducted at St George’s Park, where the 24-year-old is currently on duty with his country.

Oxlade-Chamberlain made 132 Premier League appearances for the Gunners during his six years in north London, and has 27 caps for the Three Lions to date.

The midfielder, the club’s fourth signing of the summer, bolsters Jürgen Klopp’s squad as Liverpool prepare to compete in three domestic competitions and the Champions League.

In a message to Reds fans after sealing the move, Oxlade-Chamberlain said: “I’m currently away with England, so I’m at St George’s Park. Firstly, I’m delighted to have signed for Liverpool and a big thank-you to everyone here at the FA that has made this possible, using the facilities. It has been a massive help.

“I’m not going to say too much today; I’m here with England and we’ve got two big games coming up, so I want to focus on them. But I can’t wait to get to Melwood and you’ll hear first from me on LFCTV.”

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2017, 12:02:15 PM »
Welcome AOC.

Let's reach that potential in the next couple of years and win stuff!

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2017, 12:03:02 PM »
Happy with this. I think he'll surprise a lot of people.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2017, 12:04:14 PM »
Welcome the OX can't wait to see you put on a red shirt. :wave

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2017, 12:05:05 PM »
Welcome Oxlade Chambo, delighted you're on board!

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2017, 12:06:12 PM »
Welcome aboard! :)

Looking forward to seeing what Klopp can do for him and what he can do for us and what terrible nicknames our fans come up with

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2017, 12:06:13 PM »
You can call him Al.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2017, 12:06:21 PM »
Welcome. His head is in the right place. He took a paycut to join.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2017, 12:06:33 PM »
Excited about how he develops under Klopp!

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2017, 12:06:39 PM »
Really, really happy with this.

Great option to have, we now got a good number of multi-functional players who can cover a couple of positions allowing us to have a bit of a smaller but happier squad because everyone will contribute.

If we keep Phil we'll be just a CB away from an awesome squad and that can be addressed in January as well.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2017, 12:06:47 PM »
The reveal-video on LFC's facebook page is hilarious... Camera shows someone touching the PL-logo on the shirt, then thouching the sponsor-logo on the other sleeve, then stroking the club crest, camera zooms out, Oxlaide-Chamberlain turns his face to the camera and gives a big grin... :lmao

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2017, 12:07:14 PM »
You're forum posts are always a great read cheers @Babuyaku

Welcome OX

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2017, 12:08:07 PM »
Welcome Ox, think he will do well here

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2017, 12:08:29 PM »
So... what number will he wear? That's the only thing we're all actually bothered about? Will it be No. 8? Or is that reserved for Naby...

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2017, 12:09:03 PM »
Happy to see him sign for Liverpool. 

We where crying out for some depth in midfield and wide attacking areas - here is some quality depth for the squad right there :D

And good lad for sodding off Chelsea and taking less money to sign for the Reds.  8)

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2017, 12:09:13 PM »
Welcome AOC.Can somebody post the pics from the official website ?

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2017, 12:09:53 PM »
Bloody hell, what an OP.

Welcome to the best club in the world Alex!  :scarf

Can't wait to see how he develops under Klopp, delighted we've got him think this will be an excellent signing.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlaide-Chamberlain
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2017, 12:09:57 PM »
Meh,hope Klopp can get something out of him .

At least his attitudes right.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlaide-Chamberlain
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2017, 12:11:07 PM »
Delighted! Welcome Oxo Chambo.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlaide-Chamberlain
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2017, 12:11:21 PM »



Really love versatile players and this guy's one of the better ones..welcome Alex. :scarf



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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2017, 12:11:58 PM »
Get the auto-correct in place. No "ox" or "the ox".
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2017, 12:12:08 PM »
Looking good  8)

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2017, 12:13:14 PM »
Did not expect this signing at all.

Welcome to LFC. What role is he most likely to play?
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2017, 12:13:25 PM »
Has he stolen Keira's number 8?
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #25 on: August 31, 2017, 12:13:34 PM »
He'll be excellent for us, I have an impeccable record of picking players who will. Torres, Mascherano, Suarez, Lambert and Markovic :)
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2017, 12:15:07 PM »
What the boss says about AOC:

Jürgen Klopp: I've been watching Alex's progress since 2014


“I am really, really happy we have got Alex signed. Since the last game I have been waiting and hoping we could make this transfer - and when I got the news he was ours it was fantastic.

“I remember the first time I saw him play live - it was at Dortmund in 2014 and he came on as a sub that day and made a big impact. He stood out immediately because of his pace and skills and his attitude in such a big game for a young player; I remember him chasing back to make a brilliant challenge on Mkhitaryan in the box to save a certain goal.

“We won that game but lost the return match at Arsenal when he started and played well, I think he hit the post. Since then I have followed him and when I heard it may be possible to sign him I didn't need to think twice.

“I hear a lot of talk about positions but let's talk about the player; he is someone with really good abilities who always gives everything for his team. A player that is positive and willing to take risks to try and make positive things happen.

“He may still be young but he has a lot of experience in the Premier League, Champions League and for his country. Already he is a very, very good player and I think he has the mentality and desire to get even better - and that excites me.

“This is someone making a tough decision to leave one great club and come to another great club and I think he had many options, so to get him means I am delighted.

“He didn't make an easy decision but I think he made a great one to go on this journey with this squad of talented boys and our great supporters. I welcome him to the Liverpool family.”


http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/273812-jurgen-klopp-i-ve-been-watching-alex-s-progress-since-2014
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2017, 12:15:15 PM »
Fantastic news. One of the players that always worried me when they had the box and were attacking iur goal.
Additionally,  one of the few players that I felt would suit us perfectly in terms of his quality and skills, his mentality,  and seemingly his personality.
Bit busy at the moment, but will give Babu's OP a read shen I have the chance. Been waiting for his insightful analysis on Chamberlain and where he'll fit in, glad it'll be pegged as the OP of Chamberlain's thread.
Will you be doing the same for Keita, Babu? :)
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #28 on: August 31, 2017, 12:15:31 PM »
Good luck to the lad. Hope he has a successful career here. Seems to have been around for ages but still got his best years ahead of him.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2017, 12:15:59 PM »
Babu, yet another fantastic OP.

I've been reading Klopp's comments this morning and 'already he is a very, very good player and I think he has the mentality and desire to get even better - and that excites me', sums it up.

Chamberlain has only impressed me in fits and starts but when he's been good, it's been at a very decent level. Hopefully Jurgen can add consistency to his game. It's a good bit of business for me.   

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2017, 12:18:02 PM »
Mins per clear-cut chance created in 2016/17 PL (min 9):

Oxlade-C: 174 (9 total)

Coutinho: 204 (11)

Firmino: 307 (10)

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2017, 12:18:50 PM »
Get the auto-correct in place. No "ox" or "the ox".
It'll kill the farming board but we've got to get this sorted out.  Any attempts should autocorrect to Alexander Oxlade Chamberlaino.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2017, 12:19:16 PM »
Welcome.

He'll add lots of quality to the squad.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2017, 12:20:05 PM »
Meh,hope Klopp can get something out of him .

At least his attitudes right.

For me this is the main source of optimism.  Ox hasnt improved at all over the last few years.

But I have faith in Klopp to make him good enough.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2017, 12:20:44 PM »
Has he stolen Keira's number 8?

I seen 21 knocking around twatter earlier.

More importantly, calling him The Ox needs fucked off sharpish

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2017, 12:25:03 PM »
Thanks for that BY.
You have addressed most of issues I had with this transfer based on my limited knowledge of Chamberlain's game. Once he is up to speed with his fitness and tactically, he'll be a great addition to our band of merry defence destroyers.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2017, 12:26:53 PM »
Tempted to call him the ox just to enjoy the completely ridiculous fuming in here.

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2017, 12:27:32 PM »
Intriguing signing. Sounded like Klopp really wanted him. Has all the physical attributes that Klopp likes in a player - just a question of his decision making.

It's a lot of money for a player in the final year of his contract - and I'm curious to see how he fits in. Will he find himself as a starter, utility player or just a really expensive super sub?

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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2017, 12:27:44 PM »
Welcome Alex! He looks good in red, best of luck lad.
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Re: Welcome to Liverpool Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2017, 12:27:52 PM »
Welcome Alex and good luck.
Personally think at Arsenal he was never used to his full potential. Klopp seems to have the knack of getting players to perform at the top of their game. With this in my mind I reckon he could bloom into a top player.

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