Topic: Boxing thread

[Samie]

His camp said after the Ruiz defeat the days of him coming over 18 stones are over.  17.5-18.5 stones is the range for him I feel.

[Samie]

Saw a picture of AJ the other day as I follow his physio on Twitter, he's looking pretty lean.

Do you thigh stranglers all have What'sAp group?

[Welshred]

Not all of us no

[Samie]

But you are right mate?

[Welshred]

Not anymore

[Samie]

Fuckin' hell mate, just play along. 

[Samie]

No wonder he had to take the fight. He and his kids kids were fucked if not. 

Fury Explains That Wilder Trilogy Was Necessary To Avoid $80 Million in Damages http://dlvr.it/S7ksN7

[Samie]

Rocky V vibes lads. 

Anthony Joshua: "I'll promise before the end of my career I'll have done everything in my power to fight Tyson Fury. Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao - that was a superstar fight. Me and Fury is streets. We'll get it on in Britain. This is a UK fight."

[Lusty]

Rocky V vibes lads. 

Each time one of them says it will definitely happen, I get less and less confident about it.

[Samie]

It's a Street Fight mate. Did you not see Rocky V? 

[Peabee]

Saw a picture of AJ the other day as I follow his physio on Twitter, he's looking pretty lean.

That’ll help him in the later rounds. Those ridiculous muscles he had need a lot of oxygen. Not sure why he got that big. I don’t think it will effect his punch power much, if at all, as most of the body is used in a punch (neck down), so it should help him if he can use more of his body without sapping so much energy/oxygen?

[Lusty]

It's a Street Fight mate. Did you not see Rocky V? 

I've tried to erase that one from my memory!

[Samie]

Manny Pacquiao said he will run for president of the Philippines next year. Safe to say he ain't going to be president of a fuckin' country and continue  to box. 

[Lusty]

Manny Pacquiao said he will run for president of the Philippines next year. Safe to say he ain't going to be president of a fuckin' country and continue  to box. 

Think he said he's officially retired now.

Fully expecting him to be fighting Oscar DLH for the cruiserweight title in 2035.

[Jayo10]

That’ll help him in the later rounds. Those ridiculous muscles he had need a lot of oxygen. Not sure why he got that big. I don’t think it will effect his punch power much, if at all, as most of the body is used in a punch (neck down), so it should help him if he can use more of his body without sapping so much energy/oxygen?

Actually think the only hope AJ had was to come in big and win it in first 4 rounds.

Usyk is coming up to his weightclass, coming in leaner hints at him trying to box Usyk which is the wrong move in my opinion.

Its a fascinating fight, a good big un always beats a good little un, but in this case its a good big un fighting a great little un'

[Samie]

He's gonig to be bigger than Usyk anyway and Usyk hasn't shown he can take a legit Super Heavyweight's punch yet. Only way I see Usyk winning is if it goes the distance and AJ puts in a Takam like performance.

[Welshred]

Rumour is AJ is coming in a stone heavier so there's not a huge amount of difference there

[Red-Soldier]

Joshua will be at least a stone heavier and he's a good fighter.  Big favourtie for me.

Should be a good fight though.

[Samie]

Rumour is AJ is coming in a stone heavier so there's not a huge amount of difference there

Aye, anything under 19 stones for AJ is the right weight.

Usyk is a great fighter but in the Heavyweight division as shown through the years doesn't need quality always but brute power to win and even bums have that.

[Wild Romany Boy]

I can see Joshua losing, I really can, but I do appreciate that he starts as a firm favourite.

Usyk is still a mystery at this heavyweight level, but it's sensible to get him early because I think he'll be a big player in it for the next three years.

[Welshred]

AJ has just resigned with Matchroom until the end of his career

[Samie]

And by extension DAZN, who will promote the fuck out of him now.

[duvva 💅]

I can see Joshua losing, I really can, but I do appreciate that he starts as a firm favourite.

Usyk is still a mystery at this heavyweight level, but it's sensible to get him early because I think he'll be a big player in it for the next three years.

Definitely one of the most interesting fights at heavyweight in years for me. Really depends if Usyk can deal with the power, if he can then it’s a very closely matched fight.

[Dull Tools]

And by extension DAZN, who will promote the fuck out of him now.

Not sure that is true. AJ is a free agent now and I am sure he has been assured whatever the best deal is for him. I have heard Sky, DAZN and even Amazon are interested.

[Samie]

Eddie Hearn has got a $1 Billion contract with DAZN mate. Safe to say AJ was negotiated as part of that deal.

[Wild Romany Boy]

Definitely one of the most interesting fights at heavyweight in years for me. Really depends if Usyk can deal with the power, if he can then it’s a very closely matched fight.

Closely matched is a good way of expressing it. A lot of people seem to downplay Joshua's skills. He is an Olympic champion, he's gone the distance, he's knocked out people quickly, he's visibly learnt as fights have gone in, and he's been super defensive and used the double jab when he has needed to. He's not a great fighter, but he might come to be one, and he is, as of now, at least very, very good.

[duvva 💅]

Eddie Hearn has got a $1 Billion contract with DAZN mate. Safe to say AJ was negotiated as part of that deal.

Eddie’s got a billion dollar contract, who’s he fighting, Don King?

[Samie]

 

Don King would win by ddogy decision as always mate.


But yeah, Eddie signed a US  and UK boxing deal for a billion with DAZN for the next 8 years at least.

[Clayton Bigsby]

AJ will brutalise him. Im shocked at how many think this a close fight.

[Clayton Bigsby]

Eddie Hearn has got a $1 Billion contract with DAZN mate. Safe to say AJ was negotiated as part of that deal.

He wasn't. Not for uk part anyway

[scatman]

He wasn't. Not for uk part anyway

all AJ fights are included in my European DAZN sub (2 quid a month)

[Lusty]

Talk of DAZN buying out BT Sport today which would be quite something.

AJ will brutalise him. Im shocked at how many think this a close fight.

I'll be chucking a few quid on Usyk for what it's worth!

[cornishscouser92]

All the talk of Joshua being lean, he looks massive

[Clayton Bigsby]

Talk of DAZN buying out BT Sport today which would be quite something.

I'll be chucking a few quid on Usyk for what it's worth!

With his pedigree I can understand that. If he had shown bone crunching power at CW and in his 2 HW contests i could see it. Don't think he hits hard enough and he certainly wont have been hit as hard as he will be on Saturday

[Lusty]

With his pedigree I can understand that. If he had shown bone crunching power at CW and in his 2 HW contests i could see it. Don't think he hits hard enough and he certainly wont have been hit as hard as he will be on Saturday

Yeah it basically comes down to his chin I think. Joshua will get to him at some point so we'll see how that goes. Not a big puncher but then neither is Ruiz.

Usyk has never been in with a giant like Joshua before, but then I don't think Joshua has been in with anyone who can outbox him before.

If Joshua wins this, he beats Fury for me.

[Samie]

Kicking off legitly at  the Canelo v Plant press conference. 

https://twitter.com/grosenstein/status/1440414806100508672

[Lusty]

Kicking off legitly at  the Canelo v Plant press conference. 

https://twitter.com/grosenstein/status/1440414806100508672

Pretty demoralising for Plant that!

[1892tillforever]

With his pedigree I can understand that. If he had shown bone crunching power at CW and in his 2 HW contests i could see it. Don't think he hits hard enough and he certainly wont have been hit as hard as he will be on Saturday

I was thinking this could be a close one but as the fight draws nearer, I'm moving towards a Joshua KO victory, possibly late on but wouldn't be shocked if he clips Usyk early. Usyk is a fantastic fighter but we already saw that he wasn't entirely comfortable against Chisora. A lot of people forget that Breidis almost beat him and it was a close decision in the end. I'm a big fan of Breidis who I think is physically stronger than Usyk, but I couldn't see him lasting the 12 against Joshua either. It isn't just Joshua's weight and power, it is also his height and reach or 'dimensions' as you like to say CB 

No matter how good Usyk is, and he is VERY good, fighting a 2-metre tall giant who is also athletic and a pretty good boxer himself is something different entirely.

Yeah it basically comes down to his chin I think. Joshua will get to him at some point so we'll see how that goes. Not a big puncher but then neither is Ruiz.

Usyk has never been in with a giant like Joshua before, but then I don't think Joshua has been in with anyone who can outbox him before.

If Joshua wins this, he beats Fury for me.

True, but bear in mind that Mister Jiggles weighed about 20 stone for that fight! He's not a heavy hitter but even getting whacked by him is different to Usyk who will be perhaps 16 stone or 16.5 stone on fight night?

Pretty demoralising for Plant that!

It's not great when you miss someone with a punch when they're standing in your face in street clothes! Unless Canelo gets injured I think a house plant has as much chance as winning as Caleb.

[Lusty]

True, but bear in mind that Mister Jiggles weighed about 20 stone for that fight! He's not a heavy hitter but even getting whacked by him is different to Usyk who will be perhaps 16 stone or 16.5 stone on fight night?

I imagine there'll be more muscle on Usyk at 16 stone than there was on Ruiz at 20

I don't think Usyk has a hope of knocking Joshua out, but for what it's worth I don't think you need to be a big puncher to do that anyway.  Any heavyweight has the capability to knock him out if he gasses like he did against Ruiz.  It sounds like AJ is coming in lighter though so less chance of that happening.

Other factor here is that I think Usyk is only the second southpaw that Joshua has faced, which is a bit mad.  Just throws another variable into the mix.  The other one was 'King' Charles Martin who is still my vote for the worst heavyweight champion of all time

[1892tillforever]

I imagine there'll be more muscle on Usyk at 16 stone than there was on Ruiz at 20

I don't think Usyk has a hope of knocking Joshua out, but for what it's worth I don't think you need to be a big puncher to do that anyway.  Any heavyweight has the capability to knock him out if he gasses like he did against Ruiz.  It sounds like AJ is coming in lighter though so less chance of that happening.

Other factor here is that I think Usyk is only the second southpaw that Joshua has faced, which is a bit mad.  Just throws another variable into the mix.  The other one was 'King' Charles Martin who is still my vote for the worst heavyweight champion of all time

Martin won the equivalent of the lottery when he got that title; after his opponent got injured during the fight! Then Eddie apparently offered £6 million to fight Joshua!