Author Topic: Euro 2020 (2021) discussion thread (Read 142126 times)

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #3280 on:** June 17, 2021, 01:23:50 pm »

James Horncastle made a really good point that tactically this Italian side have been inspired by Atalanta and Sassuolo, which has allowed for a cultural sea change in how they are approaching matches. Refreshing to see.

PaulF · « **Reply #3281 on:** June 17, 2021, 02:36:17 pm »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on June 16, 2021, 05:37:36 pm

The Athletic UK@TheAthleticUK
NEWS | Antonio Rudiger will face no punishment for Paul Pogba ‘bite’ After the match, Pogba claimed Rudiger “nibbled” him during France's 1-0 win over Germany but insisted the defender should not face a ban for the incident

Is he trying to look like Suarez? and issuing a come get me plea to us or Barcelona?

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #3282 on:** June 17, 2021, 04:33:25 pm »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on June 17, 2021, 01:23:50 pm

James Horncastle made a really good point that tactically this Italian side have been inspired by Atalanta and Sassuolo, which has allowed for a cultural sea change in how they are approaching matches. Refreshing to see.

He just nicked it from me I reckon

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on June 16, 2021, 08:49:42 pm

Sassuolo have some top talent to hand. Them and Atalanta are really shaking up Italian football. Think it’s actually seeped into Italian football as a whole because they’ve realised there’s another way to play and actually it’s necessary to evolve to keep up.

kopite77 · « **Reply #3283 on:** June 17, 2021, 10:14:13 pm »

What the actual Fuck, it’s great to see UEFA get it’s real priorities in order!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57517337

oojason · « **Reply #3284 on:** June 18, 2021, 12:48:35 am »

More UEFA shenanigans...

'Uefa threat over Euro 2020 final at Wembley':-

Football body warns it will take match from London to Hungary unless quarantine waived for 2,500 officials

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/40b2fd72-cf9e-11eb-9bfa-a3bc386e6928?shareToken=4574018f006a808f737b66d902123805

'Thousands of VIPs will be allowed into England without the need to quarantine under plans to stop the final of the European Championship being moved from Wembley to Budapest, The Times can reveal.

Ministers are discussing a proposal to exempt Uefa and Fifa officials, politicians, sponsors and broadcasters from having to self-isolate on arrival despite concerns that this could lead to an increase in coronavirus infections and provoke a backlash from the public.

About 2,500 designated VIPs attending games at Wembley would not have to abide by the quarantine restrictions imposed on ordinary travellers. They would be allowed to attend matches at Wembley during the knockout phase of the tournament as well as training sessions and meetings with the UK government.'

(more in the article lined above)

Edit - now at The Grauniad too: 'VIPs ‘to be let into England without quarantine to keep Euros final at Wembley’':-

Plan would exempt 2,500 Uefa and Fifa officials and politicians from rules faced by ordinary travellers

www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/18/vips-to-be-let-into-england-without-quarantine-to-keep-euros-final-at-wembley

Dave McCoy · « **Reply #3285 on:** June 18, 2021, 02:09:44 am »

I think after Portugal won while getting all of 3 points in the group stage last time it's hard to draw anything clearly from the group games so far. With that said I think the biggest surprise has been how bad Turkey have been, they've been truly awful. Aside from that what else? For me I think Portugal is actually better but seemingly their manager won't let them play as such.

markthescouser · « **Reply #3286 on:** June 18, 2021, 07:13:13 am »

Quote from: oojason on June 18, 2021, 12:48:35 am

More UEFA shenanigans...

'Uefa threat over Euro 2020 final at Wembley':-

Football body warns it will take match from London to Hungary unless quarantine waived for 2,500 officials

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/40b2fd72-cf9e-11eb-9bfa-a3bc386e6928?shareToken=4574018f006a808f737b66d902123805

'Thousands of VIPs will be allowed into England without the need to quarantine under plans to stop the final of the European Championship being moved from Wembley to Budapest, The Times can reveal.

Ministers are discussing a proposal to exempt Uefa and Fifa officials, politicians, sponsors and broadcasters from having to self-isolate on arrival despite concerns that this could lead to an increase in coronavirus infections and provoke a backlash from the public.

About 2,500 designated VIPs attending games at Wembley would not have to abide by the quarantine restrictions imposed on ordinary travellers. They would be allowed to attend matches at Wembley during the knockout phase of the tournament as well as training sessions and meetings with the UK government.'

(more in the article lined above)

Heard a rumour (so take with a pinch of salt), that the UK is going to start allowing people to come from amber countries without having to quarantine if they’ve had both doses of a vaccine. Would get around this particular problem, and generally seems pretty sensible to me.

Either that or say they’re exempt now, then 2 days before the final say that they’re not when it’s too late for them to change anything- fuck the UEFA dickheads. I’d actually love to see their collective meltdown if this happened, which of course, it would never.

CroatiaReds · « **Reply #3287 on:** June 18, 2021, 08:21:04 am »

I dont know where to put this.
If anybody needs ticket for today match Croatia - Czech Republic in Glasgow i am giveing ticket for FREE.
Cause of Covid restrictions i wasnt able to travel.
PM me if somebody is interested!!!

Elmo! · « **Reply #3288 on:** June 18, 2021, 08:23:00 am »

Quote from: CroatiaReds on June 18, 2021, 08:21:04 am

I dont know where to put this.
If anybody needs ticket for today match Croatia - Czech Republic in Glasgow i am giveing ticket for FREE.
Cause of Covid restrictions i wasnt able to travel.
PM me if somebody is interested!!!

reddit.com/r/ScottishFootball or reddit.com/r/Glasgow might be good places to post if you don't get any takers here.

CroatiaReds · « **Reply #3289 on:** June 18, 2021, 08:24:50 am »

Quote from: Just Elmo? on June 18, 2021, 08:23:00 am

reddit.com/r/ScottishFootball or reddit.com/r/Glasgow might be good places to post if you don't get any takers here.

Thanks for advice mate!

Dull Tools · « **Reply #3290 on:** June 18, 2021, 10:19:36 am »

Quote from: CroatiaReds on June 18, 2021, 08:24:50 am

Thanks for advice mate!

Just PMd you

CroatiaReds · « **Reply #3291 on:** June 18, 2021, 01:24:13 pm »

Quote from: Dull Tools on June 18, 2021, 10:19:36 am

Just PMd you

Cant answer on Pm, +<edited out> call me on wapp or viber.

Ghost Town · « **Reply #3292 on:** June 18, 2021, 01:56:35 pm »

This Slovak anthem is Beethovenish

Rhi · « **Reply #3293 on:** June 18, 2021, 01:57:46 pm »

Quote from: CroatiaReds on June 18, 2021, 01:24:13 pm

Cant answer on Pm, +385 99 648 1006 call me on wapp or viber.

I’ve updated your profile to have more posts. Try to PM him now? Not sure if it’s the number of posts rules blocking your PMs or something else.

CroatiaReds · « **Reply #3294 on:** June 18, 2021, 02:30:59 pm »

Quote from: Rhi on June 18, 2021, 01:57:46 pm

I’ve updated your profile to have more posts. Try to PM him now? Not sure if it’s the number of posts rules blocking your PMs or something else.

Ticket sorted, Pm now working, thanks for help.

Dull Tools · « **Reply #3295 on:** June 18, 2021, 02:33:04 pm »

Quote from: Rhi on June 18, 2021, 01:57:46 pm

I’ve updated your profile to have more posts. Try to PM him now? Not sure if it’s the number of posts rules blocking your PMs or something else.

All sorted. Thanks!

newterp · « **Reply #3296 on:** June 18, 2021, 02:33:42 pm »

Quote from: CroatiaReds on June 18, 2021, 02:30:59 pm

Ticket sorted, Pm now working, thanks for help.

I'm impressed by this!

Rhi · « **Reply #3297 on:** June 18, 2021, 02:45:48 pm »

Nice one. Glad it’s all sorted 👍

oojason · « **Reply #3298 on:** June 19, 2021, 02:55:24 pm »

'UEFA welcomes anti-piracy operation conducted by the Guardia di Finanza in Italy':-

The ‘Euro Strike 2020’ initiative has seen over 600 illicit services blocked, which were unlawfully streaming UEFA EURO 2020 matches

https://www.uefa.com/returntoplay/news/026a-128cb173cd9f-0aaf3e3356ba-1000--uefa-welcomes-anti-piracy-operation-conducted-by-the-guardia-di

^ so there'll shortly be 1800 new 'illicit services' soon starting up offering free streams etc...

Makes you wonder how poor UEFA coped when matches used to be shown on free tv. Less money to go around for bribes, backhanders, lawyers and corruption nowadays I suppose.

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #3299 on:** June 20, 2021, 09:29:43 am »

After watching several matches, Grealish (As predicted) is easily the biggest diver in the world at the moment

He was on the pitch for about half an hour yet apparantly 'fouled' more than all the other players in the team in that short time.

He's such a ridiculous cheat and the reason why diving is so shit in the league as a whole at the moment is that (unless you play for Liverpool) then they simply ignore dives or say it's "Clever play"

Circa1892 · « **Reply #3300 on:** June 20, 2021, 10:24:16 am »

Quote from: Camping in a pub in Allerton on June 20, 2021, 09:29:43 am

After watching several matches, Grealish (As predicted) is easily the biggest diver in the world at the moment

He was on the pitch for about half an hour yet apparantly 'fouled' more than all the other players in the team in that short time.

He's such a ridiculous cheat and the reason why diving is so shit in the league as a whole at the moment is that (unless you play for Liverpool) then they simply ignore dives or say it's "Clever play"

I see lots more cheating in the PL than in this tournament, and the bits of La Liga, European stuff etc. Grealish is the worst - but the whole culture of diving or “inviting/initiating the contact” is a joke.

oojason · « **Reply #3301 on:** June 20, 2021, 03:49:40 pm »

'Hungary punished for fans racism in Euro qualifiers; now with that weirdly full stadium, homophobic banner in the week, today fans marching against taking the knee; all feels quite disturbing.'

^ https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1406320833245679616

'UEFA investigates whether there were 'monkey sounds' against Mbappé and other racist insults against Benzema':-

What happened at the Puskas Arena during Hungary - France, before 67,000 spectators, under the scrutiny of UEFA for possible racist insults against the two French forwards.

https://www.cope.es/deportes/futbol/eurocopa-2020/noticias/uefa-investiga-hubo-sonidos-mono-contra-mbappe-otros-insultos-racistas-contra-benzema-20210620_1353625

& www.caughtoffside.com/2021/06/20/kylian-mbappe-racially-abused-by-hungary-fans-making-monkey-noises-in-france-draw-that-also-saw-karim-benzema-insulted

'UEFA Ethics and Disciplinary Inspector appointed':-

https://disciplinary.uefa.com/insideuefa/disciplinary/updates/026a-1290b09f1f87-6ae9685cfc79-1000--uefa-ethics-and-disciplinary-inspector-appointed/#

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #3302 on:** June 20, 2021, 03:50:55 pm »

It is so dispiriting to see things like that, but its a good reminder it's not just here that we're having to fight this battle.

MD1990 · « **Reply #3303 on:** June 20, 2021, 03:55:26 pm »

Neco Williams starting.Interesting how he gets on

Shaqiri starting for Switzerland.Lucky they dont have many options. He needs to improve

oojason · « **Reply #3304 on:** June 20, 2021, 04:00:38 pm »

.
The Final Round of the Group Stage matches...

^ from www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2021/jun/10/euro-2020-overview-group-tables-results-fixtures-and-the-knockouts

a good 'live table' of the six '3rd place teams' - www.flashscore.co.uk/football/europe/euro/standings/ - four of which will go through to the 'Last 16' Knockout Stage...

www.uefa.com/uefaeuro-2020 : https://twitter.com/EURO2020 : www.live-footballontv.com/euro-2020-on-tv.html : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2020 :

It'll be somewhat interesting to look back in a week and see how some teams above construed to truly mess up their chances on making the Last 16...

oojason · « **Reply #3305 on:** June 20, 2021, 06:59:35 pm »

'Neuer in UEFA investigation over rainbow armband in support of LGBT+ community':-

https://theathletic.com/news/manuel-neuer-rainbow-armband-uefa/47Dxc6G9c9dV

& https://sidelinesources.com/uefa-investigating-manuel-neuers-rainbow-captain-armband

'Manuel Neuer and the German FA are facing a UEFA investigation for the rainbow captain's armband the goalkeeper has worn at Euro 2020.

The German FA could be hit with a fine, according to reports. Neuer has worn the armband during Germany's two European Championship games in support of the LGBTQ+ community.

It is 'Pride Month'. UEFA has reportedly deemed the armband to be a political statement. The Athletic has contacted UEFA for comment.'

rob1966 · « **Reply #3306 on:** June 20, 2021, 07:00:51 pm »

Quote from: oojason on June 20, 2021, 06:59:35 pm

'Neuer in UEFA investigation over rainbow armband in support of LGBT+ community':-

https://theathletic.com/news/manuel-neuer-rainbow-armband-uefa/47Dxc6G9c9dV

Utter c*nts.

Come on John Henry, make the ESL palatable for fans so we can fuck UEFA.

PaulF · « **Reply #3307 on:** June 20, 2021, 07:29:33 pm »

It's fucking shit . It's like the banning of poppies again . We might as well shove robots o. The field.

rob1966 · « **Reply #3308 on:** June 20, 2021, 07:44:06 pm »

Quote from: oojason on June 20, 2021, 06:59:35 pm

'Neuer in UEFA investigation over rainbow armband in support of LGBT+ community':-

https://theathletic.com/news/manuel-neuer-rainbow-armband-uefa/47Dxc6G9c9dV

& https://sidelinesources.com/uefa-investigating-manuel-neuers-rainbow-captain-armband

'Manuel Neuer and the German FA are facing a UEFA investigation for the rainbow captain's armband the goalkeeper has worn at Euro 2020.

The German FA could be hit with a fine, according to reports. Neuer has worn the armband during Germany's two European Championship games in support of the LGBTQ+ community.

It is 'Pride Month'. UEFA has reportedly deemed the armband to be a political statement. The Athletic has contacted UEFA for comment.'

Little reminder to UEFA. You see that Respect badge above the armband? Remember what it is for?

The films advocate UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin’s belief that European football’s governing body should be a social fair play organisation, which means a zero-tolerance stance on racism, sexism, homophobia or any form of discrimination

https://www.farenet.org/news/leading-players-feature-in-new-uefa-equalgame-advert/

oojason · « **Reply #3309 on:** June 20, 2021, 07:48:46 pm »

The German FA have confirmed UEFA have stopped now their investigation into Neuer wearing a rainbow armband:-

https://theathletic.com/news/manuel-neuer-rainbow-armband-uefa/47Dxc6G9c9dV

https://twitter.com/DFB_Team_EN/status/1406682607807569921?s=20

'UEFA have today shared with the DFB that they have stopped the review of the rainbow captain's armband worn by
@Manuel_Neuer. In a letter, the armband has been assessed as a team symbol for diversity and thus for a 'good cause.''

Embarrassing that UEFA actually had an investigation in the first place - or thought there should be one because someone wore a rainbow armband.

Like Rob says above...

Quote from: rob1966 on June 20, 2021, 07:44:06 pm

Little reminder to UEFA. You see that Respect badge above the armband? Remember what it is for?

The films advocate UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin’s belief that European football’s governing body should be a social fair play organisation, which means a zero-tolerance stance on racism, sexism, homophobia or any form of discrimination

https://www.farenet.org/news/leading-players-feature-in-new-uefa-equalgame-advert/

I hope the German FA lights up the Allianz with rainbow colours for their match vs Hungary on Wednesday (and gladly pays UEFA any fine etc)...

'Calls to light Allianz Arena in rainbow colours after Hungary anti-LGBTQ+ law':-

www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/20/calls-to-light-allianz-arena-in-rainbow-colours-after-hungary-anti-lgbtq-law

PaulF · « **Reply #3310 on:** June 20, 2021, 10:00:33 pm »

Pretty sure they could get crowdfunding for the fine in minutes if they felt so inclined.

Playing devils advocate. Has any political party taken the rainbow? Maybe a German one? In which case it doesn't seem wrong for uefa to have an investigation ( especially if there is a complaint). It's sort of fairly obviously not a political symbol, but I don't see much wrong with a quickly closed investigation.

thejbs · « **Reply #3311 on:** June 20, 2021, 10:27:49 pm »

They won’t want to upset their Qatari sponsors by letting this slide. I hope germany do this and take the fine.

Dim Glas · « **Reply #3312 on:** June 20, 2021, 10:32:21 pm »

Quote from: PaulF on June 20, 2021, 10:00:33 pm

Pretty sure they could get crowdfunding for the fine in minutes if they felt so inclined.

Playing devils advocate. Has any political party taken the rainbow? Maybe a German one? In which case it doesn't seem wrong for uefa to have an investigation ( especially if there is a complaint). It's sort of fairly obviously not a political symbol, but I don't see much wrong with a quickly closed investigation.

The Greens in Germany is very vocal in their support of LGBT rights, but nope, their logo isn’t the flag.

Just UEFA being petty and yet again getting their priorities very wrong.

MH41 · « **Reply #3313 on:** June 20, 2021, 10:36:47 pm »

Am I incorrect in thinking that there is an unfair advantage for the teams who complete their groups last ( perhaps groups E & F) as the third place team will know exactly what they need to do in order to qualify, whereas the teams in the earlier groups do not have that luxury?
Could it lead to a few teams playing out a result in order to put Switzerland out for example? Or to get a 'favourable' draw?
Usually the last games in the group are played at three same time, and it only affects that particular group.

keano7 · « **Reply #3314 on:** June 20, 2021, 10:54:24 pm »

Quote from: MH41 on June 20, 2021, 10:36:47 pm

Am I incorrect in thinking that there is an unfair advantage for the teams who complete their groups last ( perhaps groups E & F) as the third place team will know exactly what they need to do in order to qualify, whereas the teams in the earlier groups do not have that luxury?
Could it lead to a few teams playing out a result in order to put Switzerland out for example? Or to get a 'favourable' draw?
Usually the last games in the group are played at three same time, and it only affects that particular group.

Austria and Ukraine both know a draw will see them both qualify tomorrow. The odds on a draw are currently 10/11…

him_15 · « **Reply #3315 on:** June 21, 2021, 12:20:36 am »

I don't like the new format, really confusing.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #3316 on:** June 21, 2021, 01:42:36 am »

Between the location of bottles at press conferences, a match restarted barely two hours or so after a player was resuscitated, Benjamin Pavard apparently not being concussed and an inquiry into the political nature of an armband that has been worn by other players throughout this past season, it's been a banner tournament for UEFA's "priorities" (and that's before COVID, the multi-city format and the likely piss-ups for the UEFA Family)

Caligula? · « **Reply #3317 on:** June 21, 2021, 02:49:50 am »

Quote from: oojason on June 20, 2021, 03:49:40 pm

'Hungary punished for fans racism in Euro qualifiers; now with that weirdly full stadium, homophobic banner in the week, today fans marching against taking the knee; all feels quite disturbing.'

^ https://twitter.com/david_conn/status/1406320833245679616

'UEFA investigates whether there were 'monkey sounds' against Mbappé and other racist insults against Benzema':-

What happened at the Puskas Arena during Hungary - France, before 67,000 spectators, under the scrutiny of UEFA for possible racist insults against the two French forwards.

https://www.cope.es/deportes/futbol/eurocopa-2020/noticias/uefa-investiga-hubo-sonidos-mono-contra-mbappe-otros-insultos-racistas-contra-benzema-20210620_1353625

& www.caughtoffside.com/2021/06/20/kylian-mbappe-racially-abused-by-hungary-fans-making-monkey-noises-in-france-draw-that-also-saw-karim-benzema-insulted

'UEFA Ethics and Disciplinary Inspector appointed':-

https://disciplinary.uefa.com/insideuefa/disciplinary/updates/026a-1290b09f1f87-6ae9685cfc79-1000--uefa-ethics-and-disciplinary-inspector-appointed/#

Sad to see Hungary slipping into neo-Nazi authoritarianism.

Bobinhood · « **Reply #3318 on:** June 21, 2021, 03:33:51 am »

Quote from: PaulF on June 13, 2021, 06:28:22 pm

Anyone seen odds on England getting a knock out game to penalties, and Pickford having the crucial one saved attempting a Panenka?

Ridiculous! Everybody knows Pickford's a Row Z man from way back.

Bobinhood · « **Reply #3319 on:** June 21, 2021, 03:36:15 am »

Quote from: deFacto please, you bastards on June 16, 2021, 03:35:55 pm

Credit to Alaba for trying his best to shut him up literally.

That grab by the face was way underated imo.