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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #400 on: April 17, 2021, 07:30:13 pm »
That's it then, Chelsea are as good as FA Cup winners.
I wouldn't say that mate?
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #401 on: April 17, 2021, 07:30:34 pm »
Got a feeling Spurs might do them next week as well.
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #402 on: April 17, 2021, 07:30:44 pm »
You have to fancy them against Madrid. Overall, they weren’t great against a poor Liverpool. Then over 90 that can beat PSG or City.

Chelsea have a better team on paper. The only hope is that Zidane can tactically pull something out of a hat to outmaneuver Tuchel. That and Real Madrid's relationship with the CL being akin to flies on shit.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #403 on: April 17, 2021, 07:31:44 pm »
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #404 on: April 17, 2021, 07:32:02 pm »
He'll never be booked cause I'm waiting on him to be booked in the last leg of an accum to win some nice money.

That "quadruple" bollocks over for another year and a nice money win for meself, not a bad Saturday!

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #405 on: April 17, 2021, 07:32:32 pm »
:D

Funny how relatively pleased I am that Chelsea have made the final.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #406 on: April 17, 2021, 07:32:48 pm »
But they didnt also win nearly every league game and become one of the best defensive teams along the way.

Tuchel has won 14 of 20 games at Chelsea and they have conceded 9 goals in that time. Ridiculous numbers.

They are still outside the top 4 though and have just been stuffed at home to WBA. No doubting he's had a huge impact, I said on the Chelsea thread the day Lampard was sacked that's great news for Chelsea, and makes top 4 a lot tougher for us, because a good manager would have got far more out of that squad.

They've comfortably got the 2nd strongest squad after City after spending a fortune last summer (and with our injury list/fatigue the 2nd strongest team).

In 11/12 United and City were both stronger.
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #407 on: April 17, 2021, 07:32:54 pm »
Chelsea have it easy for the time being. Tuchel has made them tough to beat and they are more destroyers. Sooner or later teams will adapt and make it much more difficult for them.

Don’t think any top side can last long playing as a counter attacking side.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #408 on: April 17, 2021, 07:33:01 pm »
With all your dirty money.
Still couldn't score a goal.
So talk of the quadruple.
Now stick it up your hole!
It's never gonna happen.
You went and fucked it up.
No history in the making.
You're out the fuckin Cup!

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #409 on: April 17, 2021, 07:33:19 pm »
The light that burns twice as bright, burns half as long, and you've burned so very, very brightly, Jürgen.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #410 on: April 17, 2021, 07:33:25 pm »
I wouldn't say that mate?

You're right, there's always the chance, but I just think Tuchel's experience and their squad depth will see them there. Realistically we'll have to hope that Leicester get to the final as Southampton are absolutely woeful but even then I don't think that Leicester can beat them.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #411 on: April 17, 2021, 07:34:11 pm »
Please elaborate.  :)

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #412 on: April 17, 2021, 07:34:20 pm »
Mr Cheryl Cole just said "it appears to be Chelsea's trophy" one for the dressing room wall whoever they play
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #413 on: April 17, 2021, 07:34:30 pm »
With all your dirty money.
Still couldn't score a goal.
So talk of the quadruple.
Now stick it up your hole!
It's never gonna happen.
You went and fucked it up.
No history in the making.
You're out the fuckin Cup!

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #414 on: April 17, 2021, 07:34:40 pm »
Chelsea are frustratingly functional. Seldom ever look spectacular but Tuchel has cut his cloth accordingly with them and made them extremely difficult to beat.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #415 on: April 17, 2021, 07:35:01 pm »
Real Madrid had better beat them in the semi. It'd be sickening if Chelsea or City win it.

I think its PSG's to lose sadly.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #416 on: April 17, 2021, 07:36:34 pm »
Said the same in another thread, but I think Chelsea will challenge City to the title next season. Just need a world-class CF maybe?

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #417 on: April 17, 2021, 07:36:35 pm »
I'm still chuckling at that Mike, it's fucking boss mate.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #418 on: April 17, 2021, 07:37:10 pm »
I think its PSG's to lose sadly.

I'll take them over City and Chelsea. Obviously PSG are just as bad as City with the sport washing and all, but they're a Ligue 1 side. Their win will be irrelevant to us. The media fawning over a City or Chelsea win would be nauseating.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #419 on: April 17, 2021, 07:37:16 pm »

From 2000 onwards Chelsea and Arsenal have won 13 FA Cups between them.
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #420 on: April 17, 2021, 07:38:00 pm »
Mr Cheryl Cole just said "it appears to be Chelsea's trophy" one for the dressing room wall whoever they play

I might be wrong but I think he was referring to Chelsea's 4 cup finals in 5 years.
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #421 on: April 17, 2021, 07:38:44 pm »
Said the same in another thread, but I think Chelsea will challenge City to the title next season. Just need a world-class CF maybe?

I think eventually they may need to become a bit more expansive to win a league title. They seem too rigid and win a lot of games by the odd goal. You don’t get more points for winning by 10 obviously but eventually it can catch up to you if you’re a tiny bit off your game. We’ve seen it this season. Think they’re a cup team and a fucking good one.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #422 on: April 17, 2021, 07:39:02 pm »
Chelsea are frustratingly functional. Seldom ever look spectacular but Tuchel has cut his cloth accordingly with them and made them extremely difficult to beat.

Don’t think that will last long. Teams will adapt to their tactics and they will have to open up from an attacking sense and they will struggle. They don’t have an outstanding attack.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #423 on: April 17, 2021, 07:40:46 pm »
From 2000 onwards Chelsea and Arsenal have won 13 FA Cups between them.
Only 4 clubs have won more FA Cups in their history than Ashley Cole did in the first 12 years of this century.
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #424 on: April 17, 2021, 07:41:26 pm »
Said the same in another thread, but I think Chelsea will challenge City to the title next season. Just need a world-class CF maybe?

I would hope we may have something to say about that if we have players back, fans back in the stadium, and perhaps a few signings.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #425 on: April 17, 2021, 07:45:23 pm »
How evil do you have to be as a team to have rival fans root for Chelsea over you?
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #426 on: April 17, 2021, 07:46:30 pm »
I would hope we may have something to say about that if we have players back, fans back in the stadium, and perhaps a few signings.

You'd certainly hope so, but I just think there's so many issues from this season that we'll need to address before really challenging again, whereas Chelsea feel as though they're closer to the start of something imo.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #427 on: April 17, 2021, 07:48:26 pm »
How evil do you have to be as a team to have rival fans root for Chelsea over you?

Yes, it's a sad indictment of the modern game. As much as I hate Abu Dhabi, the original oil cheats always seem to come out smelling of roses. I despise them both.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #428 on: April 17, 2021, 07:49:40 pm »
I think eventually they may need to become a bit more expansive to win a league title. They seem too rigid and win a lot of games by the odd goal. You don’t get more points for winning by 10 obviously but eventually it can catch up to you if you’re a tiny bit off your game. We’ve seen it this season. Think they’re a cup team and a fucking good one.

You might be right. Unless we're back on our feet though, I'm not sure who's closest to challenging City. United still have Ole in charge, Spurs and Arsenal are perennially all over the place. Chelsea low-key have one the best squads in the league, as well as a few players really finding their feet and a top-class manager.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #429 on: April 17, 2021, 07:50:31 pm »
You might be right. Unless we're back on our feet though, I'm not sure who's closest to challenging City. United still have Ole in charge, Spurs and Arsenal are perennially all over the place. Chelsea low-key have one the best squads in the league, as well as a few players really finding their feet and a top-class manager.

They are still lacking big players.

Would you swap their squad for ours?

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #430 on: April 17, 2021, 07:53:42 pm »
How evil do you have to be as a team to have rival fans root for Chelsea over you?

This is it really. I feel dirty.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #431 on: April 17, 2021, 07:58:48 pm »
They are still lacking big players.

Would you swap their squad for ours?

No, I wouldn't swap squads, but I think theirs is deceptively good. Kanté, Azpilicueta and Kovačić provide a very good base and players like Mount, Chilwell, James, Werner and Ziyech are really starting to assert themselves to varying degrees. I think they're two or three big players away from being a side capable of challenging.

I think we've got a lot to address as a club before next season before we really know how hard we're capable of pushing.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #432 on: April 17, 2021, 08:06:36 pm »
How evil do you have to be as a team to have rival fans root for Chelsea over you?

As horrible as they are, I think Chelsea have always had a sort of weird blundering quality. City had a bit of that in the first few years under Sheikh Mansour, before they decided to settle into Guardiola and the idea of discovering a philosophy. Chelsea always feel as equally close to disaster as they do to glory. Maybe there's something more endearing about that than the coldness of City.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #433 on: April 17, 2021, 08:16:45 pm »
As horrible as they are, I think Chelsea have always had a sort of weird blundering quality. City had a bit of that in the first few years under Sheikh Mansour, before they decided to settle into Guardiola and the idea of discovering a philosophy. Chelsea always feel as equally close to disaster as they do to glory. Maybe there's something more endearing about that than the coldness of City.

The difference for me, I feel, is that Chelsea were always a horrible club with horrible fans. When they sold out to a Russian thief (who purloined his ill-gotten gain by taking advantage of ordinary people), it felt like arseholes being led by criminals. They were already pretty iffy, this just confirmed it.

City though, that is a political game being played by petty demagogues, intent on using the popularity of a sport enjoyed by millions across the globe to distract from their own criminal activities occurring on a grand scale. Abramovich was a gangster spending his money on something he loved (and has been blacklisted by the Home Office for his raising his profile in this way). The Man City takeover was cynical statecraft that has seen more pressure exerted at the highest levels in government and the media than the Russian could ever hope to achieve. CIty have contravened UEFA laws and even intervened in the courts to ensure their project was not derailed, to the point of gaining control over the committee set to judge their infringements. Their behaviour is a whole new level of awful, at a club with  a reputation for famously being much more likable than their city rivals.
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #434 on: April 17, 2021, 08:26:35 pm »
The difference for me, I feel, is that Chelsea were always a horrible club with horrible fans. When they sold out to a Russian thief (who purloined his ill-gotten gain by taking advantage of ordinary people), it felt like arseholes being led by criminals. They were already pretty iffy, this just confirmed it.

City though, that is a political game being played by petty demagogues, intent on using the popularity of a sport enjoyed by millions across the globe to distract from their own criminal activities occurring on a grand scale. Abramovich was a gangster spending his money on something he loved (and has been blacklisted by the Home Office for his raising his profile in this way). The Man City takeover was cynical statecraft that has seen more pressure exerted at the highest levels in government and the media than the Russian could ever hope to achieve. CIty have contravened UEFA laws and even intervened in the courts to ensure their project was not derailed, to the point of gaining control over the committee set to judge their infringements. Their behaviour is a whole new level of awful, at a club with  a reputation for famously being much more likable than their city rivals.

It's an interesting point. City just aren't the same club anymore. They are the team fans used to support in name only. Chelsea have just been amplified.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #435 on: April 17, 2021, 08:34:08 pm »
1-0 is not the worst result, City can still win the 2nd leg comfortably.

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« Reply #436 on: April 17, 2021, 08:38:57 pm »
The difference for me, I feel, is that Chelsea were always a horrible club with horrible fans. When they sold out to a Russian thief (who purloined his ill-gotten gain by taking advantage of ordinary people), it felt like arseholes being led by criminals. They were already pretty iffy, this just confirmed it.

City though, that is a political game being played by petty demagogues, intent on using the popularity of a sport enjoyed by millions across the globe to distract from their own criminal activities occurring on a grand scale. Abramovich was a gangster spending his money on something he loved (and has been blacklisted by the Home Office for his raising his profile in this way). The Man City takeover was cynical statecraft that has seen more pressure exerted at the highest levels in government and the media than the Russian could ever hope to achieve. CIty have contravened UEFA laws and even intervened in the courts to ensure their project was not derailed, to the point of gaining control over the committee set to judge their infringements. Their behaviour is a whole new level of awful, at a club with  a reputation for famously being much more likable than their city rivals.

All true and I do see what you mean about the clubs themselves and the contrast between the two. On the pitch however, it's pretty much six of one, half a dozen of the other when it comes to buying their way to trophies.
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #437 on: April 17, 2021, 08:49:37 pm »
1-0 is not the worst result, City can still win the 2nd leg comfortably.
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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #438 on: April 17, 2021, 08:56:16 pm »
If you'd like to really put yourself through torture, switch to the Wolves - Sheffield match.

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Re: Premier League/FA Cup fixtures 16th-19th April
« Reply #439 on: April 17, 2021, 10:07:55 pm »
If you'd like to really put yourself through torture, switch to the Wolves - Sheffield match.

What exactly was the point of that Wilder sacking, just to put an interim in charge? They've lost every game since anyway.
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