Topic: Coutinho

[Zlen]

Starting to question why as a club we're not reporting them.

Is it actually breaking any rules?
Players are answering journalist questions. I mean, they are obviously both perfect twats and under club instruction to agitate - but is it breaking any rules?

[jepovic]

january premium - £200m?

True, I was thinking of the summer

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

I think Fsg and klopp thinks differently, and would sell him for 200. Bur not much less, either. This summer showed how difficult it can be to spend money. 150M is my guessed price tag , and I doubt Barca will go that far.

Not finishing in the CL would cost us much much more than that. Players like Lemar wouldn't pick us without CL football, and we would have to overpay for everything in the summer. That's why selling Countinho in January, for any price, would be a bad piece of business.

[PIPA23]

Is it actually breaking any rules?
Players are answering journalist questions. I mean, they are obviously both perfect twats and under club instruction to agitate - but is it breaking any rules?

players should be same as coaches, both are employees of the club, if a coach is asked about a player, he usually doesn´t or isn´t allowed to comment, why are players allowed? it is outside transfer window and we are both in same competition.

[Zlen]

players should be same as coaches, both are employees of the club, if a coach is asked about a player, he usually doesn´t or isn´t allowed to comment, why are players allowed? it is outside transfer window and we are both in same competition.

I agree, just asking is there a rule we can call upon to at least threaten them to back off.

[thelinnen]

Had to double check this forum was open when I saw this thread. Honestly what more is there that can possibly be said about the situation? If he left in January that would be gross incompetence.

You're all masochists for even discussing it.

[7777]

Had to double check this forum was open when I saw this thread. Honestly what more is there that can possibly be said about the situation? If he left in January that would be gross incompetence.

You're all masochists for even discussing it.

It just ends up in different threads or on the main board, it doesn’t equate to him leaving

Everyone is behaving for now

[Lastrador]

I would sell him to Madrid next summer at a discount just to piss those fucking c*nts. What a bunch of entitled fucking twats.

[ShrewKop]

I would sell him to Madrid next summer at a discount just to piss those fucking c*nts. What a bunch of entitled fucking twats.

I just wish the Barcelona players would shut the fuck up about Coutinho. Don't need to hear that Rakitic or Paulinho would love him there - their opinions are a complete irrelevance, or at least, should be.

[RyanBabel19]

Whole things boring

Just let the lad enjoy his football, he's in the form of his life. Tell them where to go yet again

[duvva 💅]

Not going anywhere this window. Expect he’ll leave in the summer unfortunately. Hope if he does it’s for £150m plus, but would much rather we keep him as replacing him will be extremely difficult, regardless of what we spend. Players of this ability are few and far between. It’s all very well naming a couple of big money big names to replace him but it will take time for anyone to come in and give us what he does.

[J-Mc-]

We knocked back what? £120m for him?

The form he’s in now then they can add another £50m on top of that with 95% of it paid upfront.

Gobshites.

[Zlen]

We knocked back what? £120m for him?

The form he’s in now then they can add another £50m on top of that with 95% of it paid upfront.

Gobshites.

Nowhere near.
Their best offer was 82 million paid in instalments over 4-5 years + 35 million in mostly unachievable add ons.
So we'd basically get 20-30 million upfront, enough to wipe our tears after seeing him tear it up elsewhere.
Typical Barcelona offer really, on one hand they are banging on about him being the perfect player for them - but never really backing it up with money.

Shower of shits.

[jepovic]

Is it actually breaking any rules?
Players are answering journalist questions. I mean, they are obviously both perfect twats and under club instruction to agitate - but is it breaking any rules?

Most probably not, since they've been doing it for years.

[jepovic]

Not finishing in the CL would cost us much much more than that. Players like Lemar wouldn't pick us without CL football, and we would have to overpay for everything in the summer. That's why selling Countinho in January, for any price, would be a bad piece of business.

I'm thinking the summer.
Now we would never find a replacement, so it's probably just about impossible.

[J-Mc-]

Nowhere near.
Their best offer was 82 million paid in instalments over 4-5 years + 35 million in mostly unachievable add ons.
So we'd basically get 20-30 million upfront, enough to wipe our tears after seeing him tear it up elsewhere.
Typical Barcelona offer really, on one hand they are banging on about him being the perfect player for them - but never really backing it up with money.

Shower of shits.

Be the same in January I'd imagine then, with them offering a shite sum plus instalments.

So can see us saying either pay up or fuck off again. Not a chance we accept less that £100m upfront with the form the lads in, especially since we just paid 70m+ for VVD.

[jillcwhomever]

Be the same in January I'd imagine then, with them offering a shite sum plus instalments.

So can see us saying either pay up or fuck off again. Not a chance we accept less that £100m upfront with the form the lads in, especially since we just paid 70m+ for VVD.

It sounds as though they are going for Grizeman, they cannot afford both him and Coutinho in the same window. It's not going to stop the Barca press talking it up though regardless.

[thisyearisouryear]

I really really hope we don't sell him in Jan. Although the VVD spending puts a little doubt in my heart.

Anyway, good guy Zico:

Seleção Brasileira‏ @BrazilStat
Former Seleção star #Zico has advised #Coutinho to stay at Liverpool where he is the man, whereas if he goes to Barcelona, he would be playing secondary roles to Iniesta, Messi and Suárez, believes the Brazil legend.

[jillcwhomever]

I really really hope we don't sell him in Jan. Although the VVD spending puts a little doubt in my heart.

Anyway, good guy Zico:

It would make no sense to let him go in January. He would be cup tied anyway nothing will happen before the summer. Should we manage to win something whose to say he won't have a change of heart?

[thisyearisouryear]

It would make no sense to let him go in January. He would be cup tied anyway nothing will happen before the summer. Should we manage to win something whose to say he won't have a change of heart?

I keep on thinking this. Then my head reminds me that I am being too naive. Hope you are right though.

[jooneyisdagod]

We've just broken the world record for a defender on the back of keeping our power dry for years. More important than ever to hold on to Coutinho who is our best player and growing into one of the best in the world. No amount of money can buy us another player of his ability. So let's just keep him. In January and beyond.

[Caligula?]

Don't think we'll let him go this winter, and both Coutinho and Barcelona know it. He's keeping his head down and putting in fantastic performances. We won't win the league, but we surely must keep him until the summer so we can at least have a crack at winning a trophy or two especially now that we've signed VVD as well. Not to mention staying in the top four. He's integral to everything.

I just can't see him staying beyond this season and am 99% certain he'll be off, but that's something to be discussed in the summer months to come.

[rscanderlech]

It would make no sense to let him go in January. He would be cup tied anyway nothing will happen before the summer. Should we manage to win something whose to say he won't have a change of heart?

It's not worth entertaining that thought. The fact is that Barca are too far ahead of us as a team at present for us to rely on a South American to contemplate wanting to stay put. Compare with City, who kept Aguero and David Silva from Barca and Real precisely because they were winning things. We need to win a few things.

What we do have going for us, though, is that
1) There's no way that FSG are letting Coutinho go in January, unless it's for £250m.
2) Barca want Griezmann and have a lot of financial trouble. They will struggle to pay for both Griezmann and our likely asking price of £150m (probably rising to £200m by the time the summer comes, and Coutinho has established himself as one of the top 5-10 players in the world by then) in a single summer. Especially if they want to make a third or fourth signing, as they probably need to do, in order to get their squad depth to a decent level.

So I think there's a good chance we have him for another season after this one. After that season, there's no telling what could happen: Barca could sign someone else for his position, a new president/coach could come in(?), we could win some major trophies, etc.

[mersey_paradiso]

I really hope we aren't stupid enough to sell him in January and I really hope we beat Porto and then get these c*nts in the Quarters with Coutinho getting the winner in front of the Kop in injury time !! Hate this lot almost as much as Real these days !!

[elpistolero7]

I hope Barca win a treble. They won't be under pressure to sign him.

With VVD, Keita, Coutinho, Salah and Firmino...we can challenge for everything next season. Couple of trophies, 200k a week and potentially captaining LFC...won't look so bad will it?

[harleydanger]

I really think we’ve got him for this season and the next at least.

[Suareznumber7]

I really think we’ve got him for this season and the next at least.

He’s gone in the summer. Klopp won’t keep a player here who doesn’t want to be here as long as we have time to replace him. Hopefully we can bring in someone like Lemar early in the window then there won’t be pressure on us to find someone to bring in.

[PIPA23]

He’s gone in the summer. Klopp won’t keep a player here who doesn’t want to be here as long as we have time to replace him. Hopefully we can bring in someone like Lemar early in the window then there won’t be pressure on us to find someone to bring in.

well we need to make him a happy player then...

he won´t go where he wants mate, he will go where we want, we hold all the cards as said.

of course he want´s Barcelona, but it won´t be easy and everyone knows it...

a lot can change untill then, Barca might go for Griezmann and leave Coutinho...other clubs might be interested, or the player himself will want to stay

we just broke world record for a CB, if he sees he can win things here, he might be turned to stay who knows...

make him best payed player and captain, see how things go untill end of this season, we have a CL trophy to play for.

[mechinate]

Most importantly is how does Jurgen Klopp sees this?

Nuri Sahin revealed that Klopp asked him to "follow his heart" when Sahin was offered a chance to join Real Madrid when at Borussia Dortmund.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/10989485/nuri-sahin-explains-how-jurgen-klopp-reacted-when-he-asked-to-join-real-madrid

Our manager strikes me as a person with enormous EQ. Perhaps the whole reason why Coutinho is still here is because it was so late in the transfer window that Klopp thinks we wouldn't have a good chance to find a proper replacement?

In my mind, a player wants to leave, Klopp would wish him well, negotiate a deal/plan that suits both parties and move on. If the deal does not suit us, then Klopp rejects it.

He just doesn't seem like the sort that would keep a player/person against his will just for the sake of having him available to play football.

Probable? Or just my lack of sleep talking here.. 

Nah, bollocks to that. He signed a 5 year contract extension which increased his wage from £70,000 to around £200,000 per week. He didn't blink before signing. And then because Barca come calling barely 6 months later we're supposed to let him leave? We might as well have kept paying him the £70,000...

And then he handed in a transfer request on the eve of the Watford game, our first game of the season. I believe his antics in August was partially to blame for our W3 D4 L2 record after 9 games.

Most importantly though, is dispelling the image of us being a stepping stone to Real or Barca otherwise we're treading water here.

[Number 7]

It would be utter madness to sell him in January which is why it won’t happen.

[Skidder.]

The bravado it great and all - but unfortunately, we have become somewhat 'skilled' in our pre-transfer bravado.

Fully expect him to leave in the summer and we won't find a replacement, but we'll move on.

[Kopenhagen]

Worst team on Earth. Unbelievable that our fans even root for them.

Despicable, classless bunch of c*nts.

[ManiacKop]

If he goes, he goes.
Klopp will look at Lemar or Draxler and will take it from there. As good as Coutinho is I had always felt his true position is not quite a fit with Klopps system.

If he is to stay, I have no problem with it. He has obvious qualities. If he is to go, I’d rather it was sooner than later (but no earlier than summer) so we can move on quickly.

[7777]

The bravado it great and all - but unfortunately, we have become somewhat 'skilled' in our pre-transfer bravado.

Fully expect him to leave in the summer and we won't find a replacement, but we'll move on.

Keegan, Kenny, Rush, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez etc suggest we always find a replacement

[ScouserAtHeart]

If it IS bravado, it would make sense to sign the replacement in Jan, even if it's a Keita-like situation where they only join in the summer. That way the price won't be driven up

[Sheer Magnetism]

Coutinho won't go in January, simply because there's no reason for Barca to put in a serious bid. He's cup-tied in the CL, they're miles ahead in La Liga and there are no other clubs coming in for him. The only reason they may not be willing to wait until the summer is a fear his price would rise post-world cup, but if they're determined to do a deal early in the summer that won't matter anyway.

[Red Bird]

Is Barcelona serious or just spitefully trying to prove nobody can or is allowed to resist it?

[Groundskeeper Willie]

Echo the sentiment that Barca is a despicable club. Mafiosos the lot of them.

The way they have gone about it, we should flat out refuse to sell to them. PSG or Real, fine, but Barselona can go fuck themselves.

[JP!]

Keegan, Kenny, Rush, Fowler, Owen, Torres, Suarez etc suggest we always find a replacement

Ssh, people like acting like the sky is falling in and our owners/manager are clueless.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Echo the sentiment that Barca is a despicable club. Mafiosos the lot of them.

The way they have gone about it, we should flat out refuse to sell to them. PSG or Real, fine, but Barselona can go fuck themselves.

Like Real Madrid are any better?