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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1560 on: June 18, 2024, 12:32:28 pm »
Is it really true they can block out crowd noise while not affecting what you hear of the performance? Just seems like that'd be a hard thing to do.

What did everyone make of it for noise levels? I have to say there was a couple of moments I think were just about the loudest I'd ever heard the ground. Not that it wasn't enjoyable ... it was just really fucking loud, can't particularly remember which parts of the set though  ;D
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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1561 on: June 18, 2024, 02:40:00 pm »
Is it really true they can block out crowd noise while not affecting what you hear of the performance? Just seems like that'd be a hard thing to do.

What did everyone make of it for noise levels? I have to say there was a couple of moments I think were just about the loudest I'd ever heard the ground. Not that it wasn't enjoyable ... it was just really fucking loud, can't particularly remember which parts of the set though  ;D

I have ear plugs for gigs that just take off 20db or there abouts - you can still hear the show perfectly fine.  I was at the Saturday Anfield show and thought it sounded great for a stdium show, didn't wear my ear plugs usually save them for something I know will be loud (MBV, Mogwai that sort of thing)

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1562 on: June 18, 2024, 02:40:56 pm »
I have ear plugs for gigs that just take off 20db or there abouts - you can still hear the show perfectly fine.  I was at the Saturday Anfield show and thought it sounded great for a stdium show, didn't wear my ear plugs usually save them for something I know will be loud (MBV, Mogwai that sort of thing)
would you recommend them mate? what're they called? (cheers in advance!)

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1563 on: June 18, 2024, 03:22:51 pm »
Yeah, I'd say so - they only cost £25

They are made by Fender and called Pro hi-fi plugs

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1564 on: June 22, 2024, 11:26:08 am »
 Night 1 at Wembley was brilliant - my dream surprise song has been The Black Dog and we got it last night… absolutely chuffed! Hits Different x Death By A Thousand Cuts on guitar then Black Dog x Come Back Be Here x Maroon on piano… spoiled!

Had decent seats last night but it made me appreciate standing at Anfield 100 times more in terms of seeing her up close. Seats are great for the view of the whole show but that Wembley pitch is massive… people had their backs to the stage watching the screen at the back of the stand at one stage!

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1565 on: June 22, 2024, 11:29:02 am »
Also, some positive Taylor stuff - I’m sure most of you will have seen in the Echo but she continues to donate to local foodbanks in each city she plays. It doesn’t get as much attention as everything else she does but nice for Liverpool to continue to feel the impact of her visit for a while longer.

https://twitter.com/standrewslive/status/1804156810930147811?s=46&t=UAZDiWA1J6LD04mxmvB0lQ

https://twitter.com/livechonews/status/1803852363918098846?s=12
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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1566 on: June 22, 2024, 11:34:24 am »
Ah Maroon is one of my favourites off Midnights. Sounds like you had a great time again, but also glad we saw her at Anfield rather than Wembley.

As you say the ability to get close up the smaller standing area afforded made a stadium show feel more intimate.
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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1567 on: June 23, 2024, 07:26:11 pm »
Sorry for the stupid question but my wife is going to see Pink tomorrow, she's in the Kop for it. She just asked does the Kop get the sun in the evening and I can't for the life of me think if it does. I've said no based on memory??

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1568 on: June 23, 2024, 07:34:48 pm »
Sorry for the stupid question but my wife is going to see Pink tomorrow, she's in the Kop for it. She just asked does the Kop get the sun in the evening and I can't for the life of me think if it does. I've said no based on memory??
No, the sun is always behind the Kop mate.

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1569 on: June 23, 2024, 07:36:04 pm »
No, the sun is always behind the Kop mate.

Thought so. Cheers!

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1570 on: June 23, 2024, 11:27:32 pm »
Sorry for the stupid question but my wife is going to see Pink tomorrow, she's in the Kop for it. She just asked does the Kop get the sun in the evening and I can't for the life of me think if it does. I've said no based on memory??
Tell her she will be on the Kop.
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« Reply #1571 on: June 24, 2024, 12:29:46 am »
Tell her she will be on the Kop.
Always one the Kop.  ;)

Surprises me that Terry lad cos we always used to say "in the kop". For example in answer to where we're yer? it'd be "in the kop". I think you go as far back as me so maybe it varied amongst different groups of mates.  :)

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1572 on: June 24, 2024, 01:15:56 am »
Deffo politically sound this girl    :)

You stick to your guns girl

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1573 on: June 24, 2024, 07:39:02 am »
Deffo politically sound this girl    :)

You stick to your guns girl

https://youtu.be/BDMwCGdKeCQ?si=TDGlGamHlwdXj_KX

I never get why some celebrities (or in this case her parents) worry about this stuff. Its not like a celebrity like Swift just walks around her local Tesco to pick up some Malted Milk’s that she is then exposed to people having a go at her? And even then its not like people say stuff against their political beliefs on the street anyway.

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1574 on: June 24, 2024, 08:21:13 am »
I never get why some celebrities (or in this case her parents) worry about this stuff. Its not like a celebrity like Swift just walks around her local Tesco to pick up some Malted Milk’s that she is then exposed to people having a go at her? And even then its not like people say stuff against their political beliefs on the street anyway.

Its because they don't want to offend their fans, who will then stop listening or buying their music/tickets to their tours and then their career will be over

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1575 on: June 24, 2024, 09:27:35 am »
Its because they don't want to offend their fans, who will then stop listening or buying their music/tickets to their tours and then their career will be over

Definitely this is what her team were getting at.

Her parents seemed more concerned with her safety. Taylor herself got quite animated when referring to stalkers because it’s something she experiences. She has had someone break into her apartment and sleep in her bed. I think their concerns are what if one of them went further - a headcase with a gun. I think her team do a decent job of keeping those kind of stories out of the news, perhaps don’t want to alert people to security breaches or that, but stories pop up now and again with stalkers. I can understand their concern in that sense - she is out and about.

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1576 on: June 24, 2024, 10:18:42 am »
Its because they don't want to offend their fans, who will then stop listening or buying their music/tickets to their tours and then their career will be over

How many fans is that likely to be? Also her fan base is hardly going to be filled with the sorts of people who take this to heart.

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1577 on: June 24, 2024, 12:50:20 pm »
How many fans is that likely to be? Also her fan base is hardly going to be filled with the sorts of people who take this to heart.

Haha are you sure? Have you seen the way they've reacted to a Dave Grohl comment the other day?!

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1578 on: June 24, 2024, 08:22:35 pm »
America is full of nuts, many of whom have guns. Once you speak out against Trump you’re a target. Of course she has a lot of protection but it just takes one at a concert.

Not to mention the online vitriol. Below the line comments on even our right wing media sites like the Mail and Telegraph are full of the most disgusting, vitriolic bile. It’s worse in the US. Far easier to keep your head down, be the all American princess and stick to cliches. I think she deserves credit for speaking out. I wish more people in positions of power in the US would.

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1579 on: June 24, 2024, 09:14:02 pm »
Haven't quite a lot of celebrities spoken out against Trump?

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1580 on: June 24, 2024, 09:17:42 pm »
Haven't quite a lot of celebrities spoken out against Trump?
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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1581 on: June 24, 2024, 10:50:34 pm »
De Niro loves him.  :P

Trump is his favourite punk.

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1582 on: June 24, 2024, 10:59:26 pm »
Trump is his favourite punk.
Most definitely.

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1583 on: July 5, 2024, 01:54:46 pm »
I genuinely looked into those Loop earplugs for the show - lots of people were recommending them to enhance the experience, as it drowns out some of the crowd noise and amplifies the singers voice for you to hear/experience.

I am deaf in one ear - about 13% hearing the last time it was checked, so I am getting to an age (not even 40 yet lol) where I worry about my other ear - thankfully it's perfect, but I did consider these and to be honest I still am for my remaining shows.

https://www.loopearplugs.com/products/experience

The reviews are brilliant and don't take away from the experience at all.

Ear defenders are different and necessary for those who need them. These plugs are a choice and to be honest, feel like a smart one.

A bit late, but just wanted to add to this. We went to Taylor Swift at Anfield (fantastic, obviously) and my partner really struggled with sensitivity to the crowd noise. The next day I did some research and decided to buy these Loop earplugs. We bought one of the Quiet ones and one of the Experience ones. A few days later they arrived, and a couple of days after that, we ended up last minute deciding to go to see Bryan Adams in Llangollen, so we took the Loop earplugs with us.

I was super skeptical before-hand, and I genuinely thought there's no way they would work. I was AMAZED at the result. The Experience ones literally drown out the crowd noise but not the music itself. My partner was talking to me, right next to me, and I couldn't hear her. We were swapping the plugs and figuring out whether the Quiet or the Experience were best and at one point I only had one ear plug in. I went out of the tent to the toilet and the ear that didn't have the plug in was ringing and numb while the other was fine.

If you're worried about these being a social media craze, well, they might be, but they honestly do work. I'm going to get another pair of Experience ones for going to the match. I'd never thought about the effect of crowd noise before, but my Dad has been hard of hearing for years and now has Alzheimer's disease, and the two things are highly correlated, so if I can spend £30 to have even a marginal protection of my ears, why wouldn't I?

Just thought I'd post that in case anyone isn't sure about taking the plunge on these. :)
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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1584 on: July 5, 2024, 04:02:27 pm »
A bit late, but just wanted to add to this. We went to Taylor Swift at Anfield (fantastic, obviously) and my partner really struggled with sensitivity to the crowd noise. The next day I did some research and decided to buy these Loop earplugs. We bought one of the Quiet ones and one of the Experience ones. A few days later they arrived, and a couple of days after that, we ended up last minute deciding to go to see Bryan Adams in Llangollen, so we took the Loop earplugs with us.

I was super skeptical before-hand, and I genuinely thought there's no way they would work. I was AMAZED at the result. The Experience ones literally drown out the crowd noise but not the music itself. My partner was talking to me, right next to me, and I couldn't hear her. We were swapping the plugs and figuring out whether the Quiet or the Experience were best and at one point I only had one ear plug in. I went out of the tent to the toilet and the ear that didn't have the plug in was ringing and numb while the other was fine.

If you're worried about these being a social media craze, well, they might be, but they honestly do work. I'm going to get another pair of Experience ones for going to the match. I'd never thought about the effect of crowd noise before, but my Dad has been hard of hearing for years and now has Alzheimer's disease, and the two things are highly correlated, so if I can spend £30 to have even a marginal protection of my ears, why wouldn't I?

Just thought I'd post that in case anyone isn't sure about taking the plunge on these. :)

Thanks for this. Someone I was with at Glastonbury was wearing them too and swears by them now so might take the plunge and get a pair.

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1585 on: July 12, 2024, 04:59:14 pm »
Just thought I'd post that in case anyone isn't sure about taking the plunge on these. :)

That's incredible - thank you! You have tipped me - I am going to purchase the Experience ones too... the reviews just conclude that it's a sensible thing to do.

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Re: Taylor Swift
« Reply #1586 on: July 12, 2024, 05:45:08 pm »
I think I am prepared to die on the hill that this might be her best song... It is definitely the one from TTPD that I think struck me the most. Her ability to take a theme and turn it into a relateable song is why her peers, writers, fans bang the drum about what a great songwriter she is. What a tool that is and what a gift it is.

She introduced Peter Pan into the folklore era and the song Cardigan - when she teased the line 'try to change the ending, Peter losing Wendy' and followed it up with some nods in the corresponding music video. Cardigan the story of young love that died out and was part of a love triangle - Betty and August being the other two songs in the triology told from the perspective of the other two people in the triangle. Ultimately the guy was immature and was chasing two girls at the same time.

Fast-forward to TTPD, an album that depicts a wild 2-week period of her life where she (against a lot of public noise and eye rolling) rekindles a relationship with someone she had been with briefly many years earlier, spent (seemingly) many years wondering what if and finally now getting the chance to explore it, only for it to bomb in the space of a few weeks with him then ghosting her. Now we have that info, a lot of the stuff back in the folklore and evermore era make a lot more sense and strike a different chord.

But the song Peter on TTPD just checks all of my Taylor Swift boxes - stripped back soft vocals... piano... Aaron Dessner producing... sad... wonderful imagery and storytelling... and just great songwriting. And a top, top, classic Taylor Swift bridge.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/Mxxswu7V1Us" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/Mxxswu7V1Us</a>

There's nothing wasted here - every line telling a part of the story. He came back but he hadn't grown up. So many little references and call backs - on the face of it people will get it, but those who are into her 'lore' or discography get the bonus stuff she has layered in there.

That bridge is absolute killer for me.

And I won't confess that I waited, but I let the lamp burn
As the men masqueraded, I hoped you'd return
With your feet on the ground, tell me all that you'd learned
'Cause love's never lost when perspective is earned
And you said you'd come and get me, but you were twenty-five
And the shelf life of those fantasies has expired
Lost to the "Lost Boys" chapter of your life
Forgive me, Peter, please know that I tried
To hold on (Hold on) to the days (To the days)
When you were mine
But the woman who sits by the window
Has turned out the light


This is straight into my top 5. I don't know if it's my absolute favourite but I think it might be her best song. Maybe. There's a couple on the Anthology I think are right up there - The Prophecy, How Did It End, Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus are 3 that I think are some of the best she has ever done - absolute top tier TS. It's strange as the album is still so new but they are so strong and can sit alongside anything folklore/evermore produced if we are talking about that style of TS.