Topic: COVID-19:VERIFIED news sources, 0 politishit, 0 CONSPIRACY SHITE

[Jiminy Cricket]

Well today has well and truly enforced the point that most people in this country are stupid, selfish knob heads. From my experience, there is also a strong correlation between those who are out making noise in whatever attention seeking way they can on a Thursday night and those having street parties. Guarantee 99% of them voted for Brexit too. Just little Englander bullshit. They don't care about the NHS or war veterans, they just want to get pissed whilst getting a few likes on Facebook.

The media also has a lot to answer for. The BBC actively encouraging people to do this shit.

I lose a little more faith in humanity each passing day. I just convince myself that other countries aren't like this and one day I'll be in a position to make myself and my family leave.

Sometimes, do you fell (just a little) like this guy (at 1:33 and 2:19)?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv0jav4lNsk

I've always admired the inclusion of that vignette as a great piece of writing, direction and cinematography.

[Motty]

Me too. My wife is convinced it's a filthy euphemism when I come home and say I have to wash my snood.

Random question but me and my wife are having a disagreement going where I say it's pronounced snood as in hood, and she says it's snood as in food. Need my version confirmed so I can tell her to fucking do one.

[ShakaHislop]

Random question but me and my wife are having a disagreement going where I say it's pronounced snood as in hood, and she says it's snood as in food. Need my version confirmed so I can tell her to fucking do one.

I'm on your wife's side on this one, I'm afraid.

Press the little blue speaker symbol (above the pink one)
https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/snood

[Motty]

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[Motty]

Anyone wonder how care homes are being hit hard by this virus as in initial spread, seeing as visitors aren't allowed then it's either care home delivery drivers spreading it (unlikely) or the staff in a lot of these homes have it and are passing it on. Almost guaranteed to be the latter so unless it's some really unlucky coincidence that a lot of care home workers have ended up contracting it, the safer bet is on a shitload more people have/had this with asymptomatic symptoms than previously thought?

[Zeb]

Anyone wonder how care homes are being hit hard by this virus as in initial spread, seeing as visitors aren't allowed then it's either care home delivery drivers spreading it (unlikely) or the staff in a lot of these homes have it and are passing it on. Almost guaranteed to be the latter so unless it's some really unlucky coincidence that a lot of care home workers have ended up contracting it, the safer bet is on a shitload more people have/had this with asymptomatic symptoms than previously thought?

Possibly, although the very limited evidence so far is suggesting that there's a fair proportion of asymptomatic cases but not wildly beyond what was thought from studying cruise liner passengers. It's possibly just that there's a delay between being infectious and then developing noticeable symptoms. That will also be a part in being able to isolate anyone with it quickly enough to stop it being passed around once inside a home. 

[TeddyTime33]

Anyone wonder how care homes are being hit hard by this virus as in initial spread, seeing as visitors aren't allowed then it's either care home delivery drivers spreading it (unlikely) or the staff in a lot of these homes have it and are passing it on. Almost guaranteed to be the latter so unless it's some really unlucky coincidence that a lot of care home workers have ended up contracting it, the safer bet is on a shitload more people have/had this with asymptomatic symptoms than previously thought?

the issue with care homes is that staff are still going home and to shops etc, the only way to fully isolate care homes would be to have all staff stay there full time, once it's get into a home it is very hard to stop, there's a reason you are asked to isolate your full household when 1 shows symptoms because there's a high chance it'll spread when you share a house. Same for care homes

[The North Bank]

Socially distant street parties.... Yeh right.
No lockdown near me in the last week or so anyway.
I don't get why we celebrate VE day, this generation cant even stay at home to save its life, let alone win a war.

[12C]

Your girlfriend sounds somewhat immature.  That said, I don't even have a power drill, so what would I know?

Debs is shaking her head at you mate!

[12C]

That's taking this thread into a whole new bracket. Screw that!

But when you drill down, there are gaps that need plugging.

[12C]

No wonder this country is the worst affected in Europe. Half of the U.K. are morons.

I blame the parents.

[reddebs]

Debs is shaking her head at you mate!

Is right mate.

Who doesn't own power tools!

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[redbyrdz]

Anyone wonder how care homes are being hit hard by this virus as in initial spread, seeing as visitors aren't allowed then it's either care home delivery drivers spreading it (unlikely) or the staff in a lot of these homes have it and are passing it on. Almost guaranteed to be the latter so unless it's some really unlucky coincidence that a lot of care home workers have ended up contracting it, the safer bet is on a shitload more people have/had this with asymptomatic symptoms than previously thought?

A lot of care home staff are on minimum wage with zero hour contracts, they can't affort to stay off if they've got a little sniffle.


I really wish that one thing to come out of all this is that we pay the revered key workers a decent wage.

[redbyrdz]

No wonder this country is the worst affected in Europe. Half of the U.K. are morons.

We had proof of that with the referendum.

[Bincey]

Interview with the director of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, who contracted it.

Key paragraph for me - "Many people think COVID-19 kills 1% of patients, and the rest get away with some flu like symptoms. But the story gets more complicated. Many people will be left with chronic kidney and heart problems. Even their neural system is disrupted. There will be hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, possibly more, who will need treatments such as renal dialysis for the rest of their lives."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/finally-virus-got-me-scientist-who-fought-ebola-and-hiv-reflects-facing-death-covid-19

Obviously raises questions about long-term morbidity as a result.

[Guz-kop]

Anyone wonder how care homes are being hit hard by this virus as in initial spread, seeing as visitors aren't allowed then it's either care home delivery drivers spreading it (unlikely) or the staff in a lot of these homes have it and are passing it on. Almost guaranteed to be the latter so unless it's some really unlucky coincidence that a lot of care home workers have ended up contracting it, the safer bet is on a shitload more people have/had this with asymptomatic symptoms than previously thought?

It doesn't take a big coincidence for care home workers to have it. It's everywhere, very prevalent in society. and not hard to contract therefore it spreads easily.

[Crosby Nick]

Is right mate.

Who doesn't own power tools!

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Guilty. Wouldn’t know where to begin. I blame my Dad, he was shite at DIY too so I’ve never learnt anything useful. My father in law is handy so have to try and watch and learn what he’s doing (not currently obviously!).

[Guz-kop]

Interview with the director of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, who contracted it.

Key paragraph for me - "Many people think COVID-19 kills 1% of patients, and the rest get away with some flu like symptoms. But the story gets more complicated. Many people will be left with chronic kidney and heart problems. Even their neural system is disrupted. There will be hundreds of thousands of people worldwide, possibly more, who will need treatments such as renal dialysis for the rest of their lives."

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/finally-virus-got-me-scientist-who-fought-ebola-and-hiv-reflects-facing-death-covid-19

Obviously raises questions about long-term morbidity as a result.

As mentioned before disease isn't a binary process with two outcomes - good (not death) and bad (death). This isn't a familiar concept to most people

[Bincey]

As mentioned before disease isn't a binary process with two outcomes - good (not death) and bad (death). This isn't a familiar concept to most people

True. And I guess, the picture is even more complicated here as we're learning about this novel virus as we go along.

[reddebs]

Guilty. Wouldn’t know where to begin. I blame my Dad, he was shite at DIY too so I’ve never learnt anything useful. My father in law is handy so have to try and watch and learn what he’s doing (not currently obviously!).

I'm not saying I know how to use them all either but I still have them.

All the gear with no idea [emoji12]

My dad was good with everything so I had a good teacher and plenty of help.

[Sudden Death Draft Loser]

Interview with the director of the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, who contracted it.


https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/finally-virus-got-me-scientist-who-fought-ebola-and-hiv-reflects-facing-death-covid-19

Today there’s also the paradox that some people who owe their lives to vaccines no longer want their children to be vaccinated. That could become a problem if we want to roll out a vaccine against the coronavirus, because if too many people refuse to join, we will never get the pandemic under control.

[Gerry Attrick]

Today there’s also the paradox that some people who owe their lives to vaccines no longer want their children to be vaccinated. That could become a problem if we want to roll out a vaccine against the coronavirus, because if too many people refuse to join, we will never get the pandemic under control.

There's an easy solution. Vaccines should be mandatory, if you refuse you get a £10,000 fine.

[Red Beret]

Is right mate.

Who doesn't own power tools!

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Now hey! I'll have you know I own an electric screwdriver! Unlike others on here that could be mentioned!

[Red Beret]

Guilty. Wouldn’t know where to begin. I blame my Dad, he was shite at DIY too so I’ve never learnt anything useful. My father in law is handy so have to try and watch and learn what he’s doing (not currently obviously!).

My dad was a brickie, so he did all of that stuff in the house. My siblings have power tools, but I guess they're self taught as my dad died relatively young. Nobody offered to show me, and as the youngest kid I was probably a bit passive and never thought to ask. 😅

[DJBrenton]

There's an easy solution. Vaccines should be mandatory, if you refuse you get a £10,000 fine.

I understand people not wanting some sort of artificial vaccination so of course they should be allowed to gain immunity the natural way. Anyone not accepting vaccination should be forcefully isolated for 14 days and given the virus. If they survive they have natural immunity. If not, at least they didn't infect anyone else. Survival of the fittest is what they want? That's what they get.

[reddebs]

Now hey! I'll have you know I own an electric screwdriver! Unlike others on here that could be mentioned!

Excellent mate.  That's one I don't use as I prefer a traditional screwdriver, it's not always viable to use something that bulky.

Paul has one though [emoji106]

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[Andy @ Allerton!]

No shortage of street parties going on around here as well, went for my walk and was having to weave all over the place at times to try to keep some sort of social distancing.

Came back to find an ambulance parked in the road, VE Day - COVID-19 edition.

We had a street party on our street.

Strict social distancing was observed.

Did you consider that these people were doing their best to social distance then you strolled up and walked through the middle of them all? If they were already there and then you turned up and entered their social space..

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Well today has well and truly enforced the point that most people in this country are stupid, selfish knob heads. From my experience, there is also a strong correlation between those who are out making noise in whatever attention seeking way they can on a Thursday night and those having street parties. Guarantee 99% of them voted for Brexit too. Just little Englander bullshit. They don't care about the NHS or war veterans, they just want to get pissed whilst getting a few likes on Facebook.

The media also has a lot to answer for. The BBC actively encouraging people to do this shit.

I lose a little more faith in humanity each passing day. I just convince myself that other countries aren't like this and one day I'll be in a position to make myself and my family leave.

What's wrong with people having street parties if people are social distancing?

We had a few beers and music on our road and people social distanced.

From a distance   it might not have looked like it, but if you observed closely then people from the same house were near each other, but people from different houses kept their distance.

Nothing wrong with people socialising as long as they are observing the rules IMO.

[Peabee]

I’ve been arguing with a copper who was defending the street parties. What hope do we have if the police aren’t even going to enforce rules.

[Peabee]

What's wrong with people having street parties if people are social distancing?

We had a few beers and music on our road and people social distanced.

From a distance   it might not have looked like it, but if you observed closely then people from the same house were near each other, but people from different houses kept their distance.

Nothing wrong with people socialising as long as they are observing the rules IMO.

Because many weren’t. And the two metre rule is a guideline. Spending a lot of time at that distance renders it useless.  Think about when someone is vaping, or smoking, or your breath in the cold air. Droplets travel further than you think and linger longer in the air than you think.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Because many weren’t. And the two metre rule is a guideline. Spending a lot of time at that distance renders it useless.  Think about when someone is vaping, or smoking, or your breath in the cold air. Droplets travel further than you think and linger longer in the air than you think.

Well I stuck to my road - so can only speak about that, but people stayed a reasonable distance.

Obviously you've been out and about for hours carefully observing all other street parties so I have to bow to your rule breaking wanderings

Also now that you mention it, no one on our road seems to be a smoking twat. So that's good to know.

[Peabee]

Well I stuck to my road - so can only speak about that, but people stayed a reasonable distance.

Obviously you've been out and about for hours carefully observing all other street parties so I have to bow to your rule breaking wanderings

Photos and friends as witnesses to local parties. Also, when I was out for my daily exercise.

Mad how people become stupid when it’s something they want to do. It suddenly becomes ok if they’re doing it.

[RK7]

Anyone wonder how care homes are being hit hard by this virus as in initial spread, seeing as visitors aren't allowed then it's either care home delivery drivers spreading it (unlikely) or the staff in a lot of these homes have it and are passing it on. Almost guaranteed to be the latter so unless it's some really unlucky coincidence that a lot of care home workers have ended up contracting it, the safer bet is on a shitload more people have/had this with asymptomatic symptoms than previously thought?

The women opposite me works in a care home, she's had people round for BBQ's, parents visiting and been picked up by friends with her kids for days out.

[killer-heels]

Photos and friends as witnesses to local parties. Also, when I was out for my daily exercise.

Mad how people become stupid when it’s something they want to do. It suddenly becomes ok if they’re doing it.

There were masses of those parties where I live but I didnt mind them and I am one of those who does get annoyed with the breaking of the rules. I got more annoyed at the close behind us singing that Vera Lynn song in the evening than anything else.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Photos and friends as witnesses to local parties. Also, when I was out for my daily exercise.

Mad how people become stupid when it’s something they want to do. It suddenly becomes ok if they’re doing it.

I'd be concerned more with the likes of yourself and your network of snooping weirdos crashing parties to be honest

[Lee1-6Liv]

We had a street party on our street.

Strict social distancing was observed.

Did you consider that these people were doing their best to social distance then you strolled up and walked through the middle of them all? If they were already there and then you turned up and entered their social space..

You know the best way to social distance is not have a street party in the middle of a pandemic, there were two parties near us yesterday and it would be impossible to move up or down the street without being 2 meters from someone. There were also kids there who obviously don't have a clue whats going on and were running around while their parents got pissed.

[Welshred]

I’ve been arguing with a copper who was defending the street parties. What hope do we have if the police aren’t even going to enforce rules.

They initially started to enforce the rules then the following appeared in the press:

https://www.independent.co.uk/independentpremium/voices/police-britain-coronavirus-freedom-public-a9431651.html

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/law/lawyers-echo-sumptions-police-state-warning/5103700.article

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/uk-police-accused-abusing-power-enforce-covid-19-lockdown-200331084607759.html

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/mar/30/uk-police-guidelines-coronavirus-lockdown-enforcement-powers-following-criticism-lord-sumption

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/23/public-support-police-falls-lockdown-continues/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-52101040

https://www.saunders.co.uk/news/heavy-handed-and-unlawful-police-behaviour-threatens-success-of-covid-19-lockdown.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/05/police-across-country-using-powers-do-not-have-vanishingly/

With even people on here criticising their approach after Derbyshire police posted their drone footage. New 'guidance' was then issued which effectively neutered them so what's the point in the police enforcing the rules if they're being criticised and told it's unlawful for them to do so?

[Andy @ Allerton!]

You know the best way to social distance is not have a street party in the middle of a pandemic, there were two parties near us yesterday and it would be impossible to move up or down the street without being 2 meters from someone. There were also kids there who obviously don't have a clue whats going on and were running around while their parents got pissed.

I can't talk about other parties, but I live on a small street and there were maybe 20 odd people there keeping their distance at all times.

Saying that, from what you said there do you live in a model village? How can you not have space to go down a street without their being a two metre gap? Either you had thousands of people out or your live on a tiny, tiny, tiny street that was made for ants?

[BarryCrocker]

So nearly a month after the Australian government forced all overseas arrivals into hotels protected by police for 14 days of self-isolation the UK government politely asks for guests and residents to do the same which will be loosely policed. Of course they're hoping to implement by early June. No rush.

Will literally wipe out the summer holidays on the continent crowd as your 20 days in Magaluf is now going to be extended to 34 off work.

All the to prevent the 2nd wave.

[12C]

I can't talk about other parties, but I live on a small street and there were maybe 20 odd people there keeping their distance at all times.

Saying that, from what you said there do you live in a model village? How can you not have space to go down a street without their being a two metre gap? Either you had thousands of people out or your live on a tiny, tiny, tiny street that was made for ants?

Put the shovel down and stand at least two metres away. Then wash you hands whilst singing “Whale Meat Again”.
You protest too much.