Topic: The Anfield Wrap

[DangerScouse]

We are short on fit defenders. Fully understandable why Lovren was subbed as opposed to an attacker given Moreno was forced off too.

[thekitkatshuffler]

Didn't someone get a 'holiday' on here for doing just that?

Nah, I doubt it.  Maybe if you flat-out called them a c*nt or some such hyperbole but you wouldn't get a ban for saying you don't like someone's contributions.

Hiya, Paul Senior. 

[lamonti]

Yeah, I felt Senior was a bit one-note. I guess the point of the Pink (oh, and you should call it that lads, it's a great name) is to be emotional, but him still being exactly as slightly peeved on the main show was fairly repetitive.

As someone was saying about "all the grey stuff in between" (possibly in -HH-'s post), I think Neil and John are brilliant at this. Some of the chat on the AFQ football that he was on was great - about refs and media biases. Really well thought out opinions that just don't get much voicing in the conventional hustle and bustle of commenting on games and narratives.

[-HH-]

Yeah, I felt Senior was a bit one-note. I guess the point of the Pink (oh, and you should call it that lads, it's a great name) is to be emotional, but him still being exactly as slightly peeved on the main show was fairly repetitive.

As someone was saying about "all the grey stuff in between" (possibly in -HH-'s post), I think Neil and John are brilliant at this. Some of the chat on the AFQ football that he was on was great - about refs and media biases. Really well thought out opinions that just don't get much voicing in the conventional hustle and bustle of commenting on games and narratives.

I loved that discussion on media bias as much as anything because no-one was daft enough to say the media are all against us. In fact, you're probably right that the talk in the grey areas was what made it so great.

[Crosby Nick]

Even when everyone is understandably pissed off for various reasons I still find it a good listen (and cathartic too after a bad result). That said I think my views on the Derby must closely aligned to Rob Guttman’s.

Listened to it in bed last night and think I dozed off before the end (one for the official reviews there) so will go back and listen to the media bias but.

[-HH-]

Even when everyone is understandably pissed off for various reasons I still find it a good listen (and cathartic too after a bad result). That said I think my views on the Derby must closely aligned to Rob Guttman’s.

Listened to it in bed last night and think I dozed off before the end (one for the official reviews there) so will go back and listen to the media bias but.

It's on the most recent AFQ Football.

[PaulSenior]

Hiya, Paul Senior. 

I won't be going anywhere my love, so i'd consider getting over that. x

[PaulSenior]

Yeah, I felt Senior was a bit one-note. I guess the point of the Pink (oh, and you should call it that lads, it's a great name) is to be emotional, but him still being exactly as slightly peeved on the main show was fairly repetitive.

10 hours time between the shows recordings wasn't exactly going to allow the dust to settle so much was it?

I apologise for being upset at not winning a derby agains the worst Everton side i've ever witnessed, and losing an opportunity to gain/close ground on rivals.

[-HH-]

10 hours time between the shows recordings wasn't exactly going to allow the dust to settle so much was it?

I apologise for being upset at not winning a derby agains the worst Everton side i've ever witnessed, and losing an opportunity to gain/close ground on rivals.

Don't think you need to defend yourself Paul. You'll never please everyone.

[thekitkatshuffler]

I won't be going anywhere my love, so i'd consider getting over that. x

Wouldn't have it any other way, babes.x

[JamesG L4]

Andy, why not dig deep into TAW’s millions and sort a massive fuck off mail drop of Neil’s Henderson diatribe on The Pink, get one of those planes that drag the banners, and drop them right into Anfield during a game, right into the mouths of the fat, iPad eating, moaning bastards that get on Henderson’s back.

Nailed it, TAW moment of 2017 right there.

[Kashinoda]

Andy, why not dig deep into TAW’s millions and sort a massive fuck off mail drop of Neil’s Henderson diatribe on The Pink, get one of those planes that drag the banners, and drop them right into Anfield during a game, right into the mouths of the fat, iPad eating, moaning bastards that get on Henderson’s back.

Nailed it, TAW moment of 2017 right there.

Wonder how much Henderon paid him to say that.

[Jookie]

Nailed it, TAW moment of 2017 right there.

Neil on Henderson was absolutely brilliant and hit the nail on the head.

A lot of people's defence of Henderson comes from the disproportionate criticism he receives rather than necessarily thinking he's an amazing player. But there's a part of our fanbase that thinks removing Henderson solves all our problems. It means a reasonable debate about his and the other midfielders weaknesses and strengths descends into nonsense.

[Iska]

Wonder how much Henderon paid him to say that.

Haha.

The silver lining I’m taking from all this is that 2017/18 is going to make for an amazing What We Call History, when the time comes.

[Kashinoda]

Haha.

The silver lining I’m taking from all this is that 2017/18 is going to make for an amazing What We Call History, when the time comes.

Wonder what their next one is after 05/06, though for some reason I imagine 05/06 lasting for another 300 glorious episodes.

[Yiannis]

Wonder what their next one is after 05/06, though for some reason I imagine 05/06 lasting for another 300 glorious episodes.

One of Souness seasons that will extent further to his whole stint and Liverpool's descend from the top. Has to be.

[robbohuyton]

Wonder how much Henderon paid him to say that.

Guess what? Nothing.

[Kashinoda]

Guess what? Nothing.

Poor form Robbo, I thought that was so over the top no one could actually miss the sarcasm.

I wasn't fishing but who doesn't like a free fish

[-HH-]

I loved Neil's Hendo rant. Reminded me a lot of what I wrote further up in terms of over-defending Klopp because the criticism at times  (Not from the TAW guys to be clear) but put a lot better.

In that situation outside though I reckon I'd have been following Robbo to Homebake!

[Yiannis]

Guess what? Nothing.

Laaaaaad. 

[Redsnappa]

Hmmmm ... no Talking Reds today? I guess it would have been 'Swearing Reds' so fair play 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Hmmmm ... no Talking Reds today? I guess it would have been 'Swearing Reds' so fair play 

It’s coming

[Redsnappa]

It’s coming

On it now, cheers!

Edit: Very good, everyone calmed down. I do enjoy these. The daily Papers round-up thing is good too, enjoyed the Owl dig and the Atko story 

[MrEazi1]

I usually subscribe for the What We Call History shows alone, worth the fiver on its own. Couple of seasons that haven't been done where there could be a lot of talking points:

1990-91 - our blistering start to the season, Kenny resigning, reaction to Souness's appointment, were there signs the empire was crumbling, the changing landscape of football post-1990 WC etc.

1996-97 - one of the rare title challenges in the 90s.

[kennedy81]

I usually subscribe for the What We Call History shows alone, worth the fiver on its own. Couple of seasons that haven't been done where there could be a lot of talking points:

1990-91 - our blistering start to the season, Kenny resigning, reaction to Souness's appointment, were there signs the empire was crumbling, the changing landscape of football post-1990 WC etc.

1996-97 - one of the rare title challenges in the 90s.

I'm still holding out for the 1923 season. Mad one that.

Wiki: The team were well on their way to a second successive Championship the following season, when in February 1923 Ashworth (manager) left the table-topping side to return to Oldham, then at the bottom of the league. Oldham ended the season relegated, while Liverpool only won one of their last seven games, but still won the Championship by six points.

What a set of lads.

[Iska]

Rafaesque career move by Ashworth there.

[Gus 1855]

No idea. Just think it's funny when people air their opinions. Never know, you might get on Talking Reds

Ok then,

I find it very tough listening to Melissa Reddy, I've always hating listening to show, radio or podcast where people regularly interrupt and I think she's the worst. In order to get her points across she just seems to talk over other people, getting louder and louder and it drives me nuts. I also think she takes about 4 sentences to say something which most people could say in one, so I'm just waiting for her to actually get to the point without all the unnecessary, fluffy language.

[Pistolero]

I think the point is that some people aren't arsed about talking or even thinking in depth about football. Or at least vocalising about it. Going the game and following the Reds is a visceral, rather than analytical, process. I know quite a few Reds who go the game who are similar. Love going the game. Love everything that surrounds it. Hurts them when we lose. But they have very little interest in dissecting the games in analytical or statistical detail.

I would say that when I went the game regularly I was more like that. I probably think more analytically watching football now. To be fair it's less enjoyable that way but it's the way I fell pushed into since swapping the majority of my football watching from at the game to watching on the TV/computer. Suppose it's much harder to get caught up in the emotional aspects when watching the TV.

A very good point, very well made.

[-HH-]

Ok then,

I find it very tough listening to Melissa Reddy, I've always hating listening to show, radio or podcast where people regularly interrupt and I think she's the worst. In order to get her points across she just seems to talk over other people, getting louder and louder and it drives me nuts. I also think she takes about 4 sentences to say something which most people could say in one, so I'm just waiting for her to actually get to the point without all the unnecessary, fluffy language.

Fair enough. I like her, but then I kind of like everyone on there. Even Mike Nevin who I tend to disagree with more than others comes across as a good, passionate red with interesting stuff to say.

Each to their own though.

[RedPat]

My favouite TAW presenter by a country mile is Neil he’s  a born broadcaster he’s quite brilliant actually.

[JamesG L4]

Wonder how much Henderon paid him to say that.

But a crux of it was Henderson is flawed, but less flawed than Gini or Can - but you can’t have a grown up discussion because of the levels of filth thrown at Henderson: hardly the ringing endorsement Henderson would be getting his Inter Milan brown envelope ready for.

You have to wonder what people hear. Or choose to hear.

[[new username under construction]]

If I hear one more BREAK GLASS or DAMNING WITH FAINT PRAISE I'm gonna come over to Liverpool and fight the lot of ya...all at once!!!!

[John C]

Neil's observation on Henderson was brilliant.

[Bastion Of Invincibility]

Been happier since I removed TAW's and general Liverpool fanbase's negativity from my life. Shame, it was good while it lasted.

[conman]

My favouite TAW presenter by a country mile is Neil he’s  a born broadcaster he’s quite brilliant actually.

He's certainly a talented broadcaster. Better than the vast majority we hear on tv/radio.

[Kashinoda]

But a crux of it was Henderson is flawed, but less flawed than Gini or Can - but you can’t have a grown up discussion because of the levels of filth thrown at Henderson: hardly the ringing endorsement Henderson would be getting his Inter Milan brown envelope ready for.

You have to wonder what people hear. Or choose to hear.

I know mate, I was taking the piss Go back to page 425 you'll see I'm having a giggle at some similarly garbage posts about Henderson.

[kennedy81]

Been happier since I removed TAW's and general Liverpool fanbase's negativity from my life. Shame, it was good while it lasted.

What are you doing posting in a TAW thread on a Liverpool fanbase forum then?

[Dench57]

Been happier since I removed TAW's and general Liverpool fanbase's negativity from my life. Shame, it was good while it lasted.

did the nasty men say mean things? 

[Yiannis]

What are you doing posting in a TAW thread on a Liverpool fanbase forum then?

Have you seen his posting history? A thing of beauty. 

[red_Mark1980]

Been happier since I removed TAW's and general Liverpool fanbase's negativity from my life. Shame, it was good while it lasted.

Oh you must have loved how Emre played on Wednesday