Topic: Anfield Road Redevelopment

[rob1966]

Other big capital projects must refer to the new training ground surely..

First thing I thought of, but then he does says projects plural.

[RedorRed]

Ayre has said he doesn't think redevelopment of anfield is finished, but he can't speak for the club...

Pinched that from Jay McKenna on Twitter...


Seems positive then...

Edit .... exact quote from the echo

Could just be training facilities......

[Theoldkopite]

Bollards rise out of the road...

and Kevin Keegan used to walk on water.

[CentenaryBoy]

The headline is slightly misleading - but there's the hint of something developing...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/05/04/liverpool-plan-expand-anfield-beyond-60000/

[TepidT2O]

More here from the echo

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-consider-further-anfield-expansion-12988877


Turns out the planning permission doesn't run out until 2019...

[CraigDS]

The headline is slightly misleading - but there's the hint of something developing...

I wouldn't post articles from that gobshite mate. Plus it's a morning article which says nothing new.

[Garlicbread]

Paul Joyce is writing the same in The Times.

[CraigDS]

All coming from this...

Andy Hughes (COO) added: “It’s important that we continue to invest across the club and develop our infrastructure and facilities.

“The Anfield Road Stand also provides opportunities to further develop our stadium in the future. We always said that we would complete the Main Stand and assess its success before looking at any development for Anfield Road. Our outline planning consent expires in August 2019 and we will follow the same robust process for Anfield Road as we did for the Main Stand.

“We are currently working up design, feasibility, cost, capacity and economic viability options. Only once we have completed this comprehensive process and come to a conclusion will it be the right time to move forward with any development programme."

[RedorRed]

Spoke a lot but said very little........ I don't really see anything in there that we didn't already know. Like many I think the club should be planning for beyond just the Anfield Road End....... they should be planning for the future.
With the ARE not likely to be finished until at least 2020 it makes sense to get its design to fit in with any potential development of the Kenny Dalglish Stand...... and on from that the skip.

There is land behind the Kop...... this is the time to buy that and look to move WBR so we have the space in future. At this rate it will be 2025-2030 by the time everything has been updated.

They're talking about the ARE costing £40-45m which is the cost of 1 x half decent player!!! And would pay for itself...... rather than costing the wages of that half decent player.

[El Lobo]

Spoke a lot but said very little........ I don't really see anything in there that we didn't already know. Like many I think the club should be planning for beyond just the Anfield Road End....... they should be planning for the future.
With the ARE not likely to be finished until at least 2020 it makes sense to get its design to fit in with any potential development of the Kenny Dalglish Stand...... and on from that the skip.

There is land behind the Kop...... this is the time to buy that and look to move WBR so we have the space in future. At this rate it will be 2025-2030 by the time everything has been updated.

They're talking about the ARE costing £40-45m which is the cost of 1 x half decent player!!! And would pay for itself...... rather than costing the wages of that half decent player.

 

Its the cost of a top class player.

[TepidT2O]

It seems they are going to get the plans etc for the training ground out of the way and then move back to the plans for the Annie road. 

Seems very much still on the cards.

Still, I can't believe the stand was rebuilt in 98..  seems brand new in my head.

[So… Howard Philips]

It seems like a statement of the current position, nothing new.

Wouldn't expect anything positive, if there is anything positive, until this time next year.

[Big Dirk]

It seems they are going to get the plans etc for the training ground out of the way and then move back to the plans for the Annie road. 

Seems very much still on the cards.

Still, I can't believe the stand was rebuilt in 98..  seems brand new in my head.

I can't understand if they went to the trouble to redevelop it they made it so small...the top tier must be the smallest tier in the league,they will need to do something cause it looks hideous beside the main stand.

[Motty]

It seems they are going to get the plans etc for the training ground out of the way and then move back to the plans for the Annie road. 

Seems very much still on the cards.

Still, I can't believe the stand was rebuilt in 98..  seems brand new in my head.

Nearly 20 years ago now, fooking scary shit that....

[dudleyred]

mad it was that long ago - remember when Celtic came down and almost broke it! It was like a look back to the old days when stand safety was tested by a load of fellas jumping in unison. it failed clearly and we put the supports in. feels like no more than 5 years ago!

[Jonny-B]

I can't understand if they went to the trouble to redevelop it they made it so small...the top tier must be the smallest tier in the league,they will need to do something cause it looks hideous beside the main stand.

David Moores for you. The reason it was is so small is because of the road. Which the current admin are having closed. And i think Moores probably could have done if they really had ambition.

[meady1981]

The facilitaties were terrible. I went in the away end against Leeds in 94 (long story). Worst toilets ive ever been in and that's with 30 years of going to many grounds and a good few Glastonburys.

[Alf]

They're adding 470 seats to the Kop, the main stand has been finished & the centenary is being renamed the KD stand. I think last weeks announcement was just to avoid any questions on it, I don't expect anything until next year.

[TepidT2O]

They're adding 470 seats to the Kop, the main stand has been finished & the centenary is being renamed the KD stand. I think last weeks announcement was just to avoid any questions on it, I don't expect anything until next year.

It dealt with the issue of the planning lapsing.. we know know this won't happen for another two years...

[CentenaryBoy]

I can't understand if they went to the trouble to redevelop it they made it so small...the top tier must be the smallest tier in the league,they will need to do something cause it looks hideous beside the main stand.

If I remember rightly, we had originally planned to build a bigger second tier but the council turned us down. I can't remember the exact reason why (something to do with blocking natural light for neighbouring houses or something) but we ended up with the compromise design we have now.

Since we subsequently did get permission to build a massive monster-size main stand, I assume a big extension to the Anfield Road End wouldn't be a problem. The council seem a lot more cooperative these days.

[Macred]

If I remember rightly, we had originally planned to build a bigger second tier but the council turned us down. I can't remember the exact reason why (something to do with blocking natural light for neighbouring houses or something) but we ended up with the compromise design we have now.

Since we subsequently did get permission to build a massive monster-size main stand, I assume a big extension to the Anfield Road End wouldn't be a problem. The council seem a lot more cooperative these days.

I cant remember exact dates but there were houses behind the ARE stand when it was originally updated. The road was also an issue due to the houses etc. which needed access. I think the original plan was for a 3 tier design but that was reduced to 2 because of light issues and depth was limited by the road. As not only the houses behind the ARE have gone/been demoloshed but all those where the new main/plaza are have gone also so the overall number of houses in that pocket between WB Road and Anfield Road have reduced. The club now owns the land on which the houses behind the ARE used to stand and they have had temporary road closures in place on the road. I believe that the outline planning permission provides authority for that part of teh road to be closed permanently.

[Jonny-B]

I cant remember exact dates but there were houses behind the ARE stand when it was originally updated. The road was also an issue due to the houses etc. which needed access. I think the original plan was for a 3 tier design but that was reduced to 2 because of light issues and depth was limited by the road. As not only the houses behind the ARE have gone/been demoloshed but all those where the new main/plaza are have gone also so the overall number of houses in that pocket between WB Road and Anfield Road have reduced. The club now owns the land on which the houses behind the ARE used to stand and they have had temporary road closures in place on the road. I believe that the outline planning permission provides authority for that part of teh road to be closed permanently.

That's correct the road will be gone completely with any new stand. No tunnel over it etc.

[RedorRed]

Could they use the tunnel approach over WBR so we could increase the size of the Kop?

[Macred]

Could they use the tunnel approach over WBR so we could increase the size of the Kop?

Probably not as the church is in the way.

[RedorRed]

Probably not as the church is in the way.

ahhh yeah good point..... we could build a church within the redeveloped Kop :-)

Stain glass of Robbie

[whiteboots]

All coming from this...

Andy Hughes (COO) added: “It’s important that we continue to invest across the club and develop our infrastructure and facilities.

“The Anfield Road Stand also provides opportunities to further develop our stadium in the future. We always said that we would complete the Main Stand and assess its success before looking at any development for Anfield Road. Our outline planning consent expires in August 2019 and we will follow the same robust process for Anfield Road as we did for the Main Stand.

“We are currently working up design, feasibility, cost, capacity and economic viability options. Only once we have completed this comprehensive process and come to a conclusion will it be the right time to move forward with any development programme."

The hand wringing, prevarication, and dissembling which has characterised our stadium plans post Taylor shows no sign of changing, does it?

[Alan_X]

The hand wringing, prevarication, and dissembling which has characterised our stadium plans post Taylor shows no sign of changing, does it?

Fucking right mate. When are they going to get their act together and actually build the Main Stand extension?

[TheMightyReds]

When are they going to build this £60M stand and commit to at least 50% of the stadium redeveloped. It's taken them 7+ years so far.

They have the sales numbers off the Main from months ago, stop wasting time FSG. Who actually is doing this feasibility study?
Haven't they got confirmed numbers from season ticket waiting list also.

Aren't we 3rd on the list of revenue per seat in the league. Stop the greed culture and invest properly!

[TepidT2O]

When are they going to build this £60M stand and commit to at least 50% of the stadium redeveloped. It's taken them 7+ years so far.

They have the sales numbers off the Main from months ago, stop wasting time FSG. Who actually is doing this feasibility study?
Haven't they got confirmed numbers from season ticket waiting list also.

Aren't we 3rd on the list of revenue per seat in the league. Stop the greed culture and invest properly!

I'm pretty sure that the next priority is the training ground.  Once that is well under way, I'm sure attention will switch back to the Annie road again.

Where do you get the revenue per seat figures from btw?  Would be very interesting to see them and compare with other clubs.

[Macred]

I'm pretty sure that the next priority is the training ground.  Once that is well under way, I'm sure attention will switch back to the Annie road again.

Where do you get the revenue per seat figures from btw?  Would be very interesting to see them and compare with other clubs.

The ARE process is ongoing and I dont think the training ground is or will have any bearing on the training complex.

I am curious about the revenue per seat thing too; I can not find anything recent on the interweb that would assist but that would seemingly put paid to the claim that we can not hope to generate from the matchday income revenue comparable with what we would get in London....  as I believe Ian Ayre said. From what I can see we generated £62million the other year. We can add at least another £20mill from the main so we are at £82m with 54,000. Even if go to 60k at £40 a ticket for 28 games that takes us to more or less £89mill... so about £10m less than Arsenal at comparable size of ground. If we went to the mooted 62.5k... that takes us to £92mill. So not a million miles away from the Scum who have 14k more seats.

[TheMightyReds]

Please see attached.

https://twitter.com/kieranmaguire?lang=en-gb

Kieran Maguire - The Price of football. Some interesting articles.

[Kopout]

Please see attached.

https://twitter.com/kieranmaguire?lang=en-gb

Kieran Maguire - The Price of football. Some interesting articles.

what bullshit is that? his figures all over the place.

https://twitter.com/KieranMaguire/status/864462735538626560

according to that we sold 120m worth players suarez,sterling,benteke all covered in that


 isn't this same guy who said spurs worth double lfc last week?

[Keith Lard]

ARE Stadium pic porn: http://imgur.com/gallery/kaKGc6n

This thread needs more of this fictional material.

[Alan_X]

ARE Stadium pic porn: http://imgur.com/gallery/kaKGc6n

This thread needs more of this fictional material.

There's a thread for that shite and frankly, Meady's Dunkin Donuts proposals are more realistic than that.

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=327269.0

[TheMightyReds]

The article in question is from May 5th timeline.

It is based on research at his university. Thought it was interesting.

[Macred]

The article in question is from May 5th timeline.

It is based on research at his university. Thought it was interesting.

It is, cheers for that.

Like many of these sites though,  most of it is made up from rumour and innuendo if it refers to transfer and wage figures. I like Swiss Ramble's site cos that just uses that numbers from the audited and declared accounts in the main. You should have a look if you have not seen it and assuming you have an interest in the financial side of things.

[Keith Lard]

There's a thread for that shite and frankly, Meady's Dunkin Donuts proposals are more realistic than that.

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=327269.0

Love Aubergine Anfield

[poopscoop]

ARE Stadium pic porn: http://imgur.com/gallery/kaKGc6n

This thread needs more of this fictional material.

Those poor fuckers on the left must be disconcerted looking at their doppelgangers on the other side of the pitch. Also who goes to a match where there are no goal posts. Absolute piffle!

[Alan_X]

Those poor fuckers on the left must be disconcerted looking at their doppelgangers on the other side of the pitch. Also who goes to a match where there are no goal posts. Absolute piffle!

It's ok - the pitch is square so they can kick in every direction.

[Uncle Ronnie]

Dave Phillips on Twitter;

"The redevelopment of Anfield Road is a live project for the Club, and one that is being worked on behind the scenes." #lfc

"#lfc would not want to be drawn on a specific window" as to whether the the redevelopment will or will not happen.

"The original planning application [expiring Sept 2019] had a specific design attached to it, and the Club would want to revisit that." #lfc

"The Club has submitted an application for .... Kirby, and that is going to take some of the focus in the immediate future." #lfc

http://assets.lfcimages.com/uploads/5699__1151__supporterscommitteemeetingmay2017.docx