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Lusty · « **Reply #60600 on:** August 1, 2019, 11:23:27 am »

UKAD and VADA are year round I think. The problem is not nearly enough of them are enrolled in it. WBC and WBA mandating VADA for their ranked fighters is a step forward, but it needs to go further down. It's expensive, but the money is there.

Broad Spectrum · « **Reply #60601 on:** August 1, 2019, 01:18:31 pm »

Bunce & Costello is a good listen this week on their BBC podcast.

markmywords · « **Reply #60602 on:** August 1, 2019, 02:37:57 pm »

Quote from: Lusty on August 1, 2019, 09:26:32 am

Yup. The punishments are an absolute joke. You'd almost be stupid not to be doping.

One thing though is that the testing at the top level seems to be effective, these guys are getting caught. Joshua and Wilder will have both been subject to testing through the Olympics and I know Joshua has been tested by UKAD year round since he turned pro. What they should be doing is extending that further down the rankings. Currently if you're top 15 with WBA and WBC you have to pay for VADA but outside that you don't have to bother, and it's a lot of money for guys that are barely making a living out of the sport. Bunce was saying the other day that they should be taking some money off the guys at the top and using that to clean it up further down the rankings.

How sure are you?

This is the first of heard of this! Would AJ have volunteered for this, if not, why only him?

Welshred · « **Reply #60603 on:** August 1, 2019, 02:54:44 pm »

I'm pretty sure boxers only get tested whilst 'in competition's which is from training camps onwards.

Lusty · « **Reply #60604 on:** August 1, 2019, 03:32:33 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on August 1, 2019, 02:54:44 pm

I'm pretty sure boxers only get tested whilst 'in competition's which is from training camps onwards.

If you're WBC top 15 ranked, you get tested by VADA year round:

http://vada-testing.org/515/

UKAD is year round as well.

Quote from: markmywords on August 1, 2019, 02:37:57 pm

How sure are you?

This is the first of heard of this! Would AJ have volunteered for this, if not, why only him?

I think BBBofC require it. Anyway, every time Joshua gets accused of doping this comes up and either him or Hearn talk about it. There was a lot of this talk around the Parker fight for example.

Out of the British boxers I don't know who else is signed up, although it was UKAD that caught Whyte and the Furys out. Just checked and Thompson and Kid Galahad were both UKAD as well. I seem to remember Bellew moaning about UKAD testers at one point as well.

markmywords · « **Reply #60605 on:** August 1, 2019, 03:59:43 pm »

Quote from: Lusty on August 1, 2019, 03:32:33 pm

If you're WBC top 15 ranked, you get tested by VADA year round:

http://vada-testing.org/515/

UKAD is year round as well.

I think BBBofC require it. Anyway, every time Joshua gets accused of doping this comes up and either him or Hearn talk about it. There was a lot of this talk around the Parker fight for example.

Out of the British boxers I don't know who else is signed up, although it was UKAD that caught Whyte and the Furys out. Just checked and Thompson and Kid Galahad were both UKAD as well. I seem to remember Bellew moaning about UKAD testers at one point as well.

CHEERS

Seems strange that nobody seems to get caught out of competition(by UKAD), as far as I can tell though

Broad Spectrum · « **Reply #60606 on:** August 1, 2019, 04:16:30 pm »

Quote from: Welshred on August 1, 2019, 02:54:44 pm

I'm pretty sure boxers only get tested whilst 'in competition's which is from training camps onwards.

Wilder said he's already been tested 20 times this year by WADA. If true, can't imagine every test is during or immediately after a training camp. Average WADA testing for a fight is approximately $23,000 as well. You should all listen to the BBC podcast this week some interesting facts and figures in there.

gazzalfc · « **Reply #60607 on:** August 2, 2019, 06:22:16 pm »

IBF strip Canelo of his title for not sorting out his mandatory with Sergiy Derevyanchenko

BER · « **Reply #60608 on:** August 2, 2019, 06:57:21 pm »

Quote from: Clayton Bigsby on July 26, 2019, 07:23:49 am

I doubt the casuals are to be honest, but yeah those MTK guys are not on the up and up, to say the least

Just surprising I've never read an article from the UK side about it even, they all seem to have bought his 'man of the people, i'm mentally ill, pity me' schtick.

Alf · « **Reply #60609 on:** August 2, 2019, 09:00:29 pm »

Quote from: gazzalfc on August 2, 2019, 06:22:16 pm

IBF strip Canelo of his title for not sorting out his mandatory with Sergiy Derevyanchenko

Derevyanchenko being lined up to fight Golovkin. Talk of Canelo fighting Andrade next.

Billy Joe-Saunders has parted company with Frank Warren today and could be signing with Matchroom next week.

Lad · « **Reply #60610 on:** August 2, 2019, 10:26:02 pm »

Nice that Antony Fowler’s shorts change from bright red to pink depending on which camera is in use. Thanks Sky.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #60611 on:** August 5, 2019, 09:56:33 am »

I see Tyson Fury's found himself another bum off the street to fight, Otto Walinn whoever that is.

Phil M · « **Reply #60612 on:** August 5, 2019, 10:22:16 am »

Quote from: King.Keita on August 5, 2019, 09:56:33 am

I see Tyson Fury's found himself another bum off the street to fight, Otto Walinn whoever that is.

I think Ben Davison said he wants more fights before he goes in v one of the big names, as pre Wilder he only had 2 fights in 3 years or whatever so not that surprising.

Liamski-la · « **Reply #60613 on:** August 5, 2019, 01:30:16 pm »

It’s also not surprising that they will make it another ppv fight.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #60614 on:** August 5, 2019, 02:30:50 pm »

Quote from: Phil M on August 5, 2019, 10:22:16 am

I think Ben Davison said he wants more fights before he goes in v one of the big names, as pre Wilder he only had 2 fights in 3 years or whatever so not that surprising.

Should be fighting better than this guy though; in all fairness it is a brutal fight.

Samie · « **Reply #60615 on:** August 5, 2019, 02:32:13 pm »

I've come to the conclusion that every fucker is doping in someway these days. What will stop this is if any boxer dies in the ring as a result of the opponent doping.

Samie · « **Reply #60616 on:** August 5, 2019, 03:22:49 pm »

Quote from: gazzalfc on August 2, 2019, 06:22:16 pm

IBF strip Canelo of his title for not sorting out his mandatory with Sergiy Derevyanchenko

Another doped up fucker, will be blaming contaminated meat again. Yes the IBF is a joke but the fucker doesn't want to fight ANYBODY not agreeing 100% to his demands.

Alf · « **Reply #60617 on:** August 6, 2019, 08:02:47 am »

Carl Frampton is out of his fight this weekend, injury on his left hand after finishing camp.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JOE_co_uk/status/1158583019973861378/video/1

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #60618 on:** August 9, 2019, 06:04:07 pm »

Ruiz v Joshua confirmed for December 7th in Saudi fucking Arabia. Fuck off.

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #60619 on:** August 9, 2019, 06:54:48 pm »

Quote from: Barneylfc on August 9, 2019, 06:04:07 pm

Ruiz v Joshua confirmed for December 7th in Saudi fucking Arabia. Fuck off.

This normalising of that fucking country is sickening & I hope Joshua gets a battering.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #60620 on:** August 9, 2019, 06:56:21 pm »

For fucks sake

Why the fuck is everything in Saudi Arabia these days

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #60621 on:** August 9, 2019, 07:13:18 pm »

Quote from: King.Keita on August 9, 2019, 06:56:21 pm

For fucks sake Why the fuck is everything in Saudi Arabia these days

Because they now have a warm and loving leader who is really,really welcoming.

Just don't enter their embassy.

Lusty · « **Reply #60622 on:** August 9, 2019, 07:14:34 pm »

Ugh. Mind you it's Ruiz's big cash in fight so don't blame him. Might be Joshua's last mega payday as well if he loses!

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #60623 on:** August 9, 2019, 08:29:29 pm »

Surely Vegas would've brought in similar numbers, the demand is there. Saudis are well known to hold various events there and not pay up their end of the contract. Be funny if Matchroom and DAZN get burned.

Great isn't it, you murder a journalist and create international outrage then get rewarded with countless big sporting events and concerts. Lovely world we live in.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #60624 on:** August 10, 2019, 11:16:50 am »

FFS. I'm all for inflicting Hughie Fury on Saudi Arabia but not to have actual meaningful fights. Complete fucking wank

Fordy · « **Reply #60625 on:** August 10, 2019, 11:39:52 am »

Hearn cashing out on AJ? Knows that if AJ loses that's the end of the cash cow.

Putting the fight in Saudi is a joke.

Broad Spectrum · « **Reply #60626 on:** August 11, 2019, 12:09:50 am »

I’ve heard Brook vs Khan is on the undercard in Saudi.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #60627 on:** August 11, 2019, 10:18:13 am »

Quote from: Broad Spectrum on August 11, 2019, 12:09:50 am

I’ve heard Brook vs Khan is on the undercard in Saudi.

Where you heard that? Criminal if true. They don't give a fuck about boxing over there, 95% of people attending probably can't even name three current champions. This card should be in the UK or USA, even Mexico

Alf · « **Reply #60628 on:** August 11, 2019, 03:39:17 pm »

I take it this is a case of selling the rematch to the highest bidder. I think AJ has his work cut out, we're not talking about a freak knockout he needs to overcome here. It's an annihilation for 4 rounds.

Matchroom announcing their newest addition on Tuesday. Odds on it's BJS.

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #60629 on:** August 11, 2019, 03:50:21 pm »

Quote from: Broad Spectrum on August 11, 2019, 12:09:50 am

I’ve heard Brook vs Khan is on the undercard in Saudi.

Dont you be starting Fordy off on one

dikwad · « **Reply #60630 on:** August 11, 2019, 06:15:57 pm »

Quote from: Broad Spectrum on August 11, 2019, 12:09:50 am

I’ve heard Brook vs Khan is on the undercard in Saudi.

And Ali v Frazier 4

gazzalfc · « **Reply #60631 on:** August 12, 2019, 05:27:29 pm »

Got to love the bullshit from Eddie Hearn

"We had approaches from Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and Qatar," Hearn added. "We wanted to go somewhere that had a vision for the sport of boxing. We already knew Saudi Arabia was for real and investing in the sport.

"We have to realise that there is another world out there outside of Cardiff and Madison Square Garden. We have an obligation to grow the sport to new areas and regions.

"This event could change boxing forever. If Saudi is going to invest in these fights you could be seeing a big change in the dynamics of the sport, which truly excites me."

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #60632 on:** August 12, 2019, 06:06:26 pm »

"They paid us a shitload of money, so that's why we went there. No other reason."

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #60633 on:** August 12, 2019, 08:03:28 pm »

Quote from: King.Keita on August 11, 2019, 10:18:13 am

Where you heard that? Criminal if true. They don't give a fuck about boxing over there, 95% of people attending probably can't even name three current champions. This card should be in the UK or USA, even Mexico

The crowd were at their happiest when the DJ was spinning.

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #60634 on:** August 12, 2019, 08:07:14 pm »

Quote from: gazzalfc on August 12, 2019, 05:27:29 pm

Got to love the bullshit from Eddie Hearn

"We had approaches from Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and Qatar," Hearn added. "We wanted to go somewhere that had a vision for the sport of boxing. We already knew Saudi Arabia was for real and investing in the sport.

"We have to realise that there is another world out there outside of Cardiff and Madison Square Garden. We have an obligation to grow the sport to new areas and regions.

"This event could change boxing forever. If Saudi is going to invest in these fights you could be seeing a big change in the dynamics of the sport, which truly excites me."

What a twat.

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #60635 on:** August 12, 2019, 08:12:36 pm »

They better make sure they get paid

Garry_LFC · « **Reply #60636 on:** August 12, 2019, 11:17:27 pm »

Quote from: gazzalfc on August 12, 2019, 05:27:29 pm

Got to love the bullshit from Eddie Hearn

"We had approaches from Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Dubai and Qatar," Hearn added. "We wanted to go somewhere that had a vision for the sport of boxing. We already knew Saudi Arabia was for real and investing in the sport.

"We have to realise that there is another world out there outside of Cardiff and Madison Square Garden. We have an obligation to grow the sport to new areas and regions.

"This event could change boxing forever. If Saudi is going to invest in these fights you could be seeing a big change in the dynamics of the sport, which truly excites me."

‘Matchroom Saudi Arabia’ incoming.

Fordy · « **Reply #60637 on:** August 13, 2019, 12:16:13 am »

Quote from: Broad Spectrum on August 11, 2019, 12:09:50 am

I’ve heard Brook vs Khan is on the undercard in Saudi.

More chance of Khan fighting is dinner than Brook.

OneTouchFooty · « **Reply #60638 on:** August 13, 2019, 07:18:05 am »

I suppose he thought if the UK govt are happy to sell weapons to the Saudis then why can’t he do a bit of business with them aswell..

gazzalfc · « **Reply #60639 on:** August 13, 2019, 07:51:37 am »

I'd have more respect for him if he's just come out and say 'Well they paid me a fuck load of money'

WWE have done it the past 2 years with their PPV events. $450 million over 10 years

The thing you wont see with this card though is a womens match. So no Katie Taylor.