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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2600 on: May 4, 2021, 01:57:15 pm »
This is what happened

Gary Neville was on his soap box over this and in the next breath was talking about United need to get a winger striker and CB in the next window, presumably spending 200mil in the process

This isn't about modern football


All whilst blaming and lying about us as his favourite cuck Carra nodded along.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2601 on: May 4, 2021, 01:59:24 pm »
Because fans protesting over wanting their owners out to be replaced by owners that will spend even more doe than theyre already spending and win them things isn't a protest over modern football, it's an example of modern football in all its bullshit

Remember when he says Managers deserves fine yet Salford have had 7 managers in year.

Contradiction after contradiction.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2602 on: May 4, 2021, 02:02:08 pm »
Excellent post.

Been disappointed with the reaction on here. Not sure how people can shake their head about the state of modern football one second and then moan when fans actually do something about it the next.
It's because the clock cannot and will not get turned back. Also, an awful lot of us can see right through this. They aren't doing anything for the good of football. Just the good of themselves. They never cared about the rest when they were top dogs and they don't now. All they care about is getting one capitalist out so they can get a bigger, more generous one in.

Football as we knew it was sold in 1992. The 'good old days' aren't coming back. This is what football signed up for in '92. What we have now was inevitable from that day on. I hate it. It's shite, but the clock can't be turned back and the genie cannot be put back in the bottle.

These Mancs are rioting for the chance to be, once again, the biggest Tory on the block, yet some in here have been hoodwinked into seeing them as the new The Guevara. It was riot based in pure self interest, dressed as an uprising of the people. Plenty in here can see right through it.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2603 on: May 4, 2021, 02:03:01 pm »
Remember when he says Managers deserves fine yet Salford have had 7 managers in year.

Contradiction after contradiction.
And his mate and co owner of Salford Peter Lim is destroying Valencia while he's going on about this

And it's not just about Neville

United fans main contention with the Glazers is they are taking money out of the club instead of spending it. Ask them. That's their main problem.

It's all understandable but what does this have to do with us???

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2604 on: May 4, 2021, 02:04:27 pm »
Remember when he says Managers deserves fine yet Salford have had 7 managers in year.

Contradiction after contradiction.

Neville sacked a manager after successive promotions because they only won the play offs rather than the title, which was deemed not good enough after the amount of money they threw at it.

Keeps sacking managers because he can't accept that they aren't winning League Two (after only just getting into EFL) even though they can still make the play offs despite all the upheavel.

His billionaire buddy partner Lim has also destroyed Valencia.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2605 on: May 4, 2021, 02:12:18 pm »
There'll be fans on here walking into The Arkles next season to try and shake the Mancs hands for fighting the good fight in getting the Glazers out with the Saudis coming in, enabling them to spend 400 mill in the summer rather than 200. If you don't you're a Tory. Even while they're in there chanting about Liverpool slums and council houses.
It's bizarre, isn't it?

I've never seen anything like it.

Liverpool fans painting Mancs as Che Guevara types while those very same Mancs are fighting to be, once again, the biggest Tory on the block. No doubt offering the hand of friendship to their away following in the Arkles next season as the Mancs chant "you Scouse bastards" back at them and call them "victims".

Honestly, after all we've been through, I thought we were a lot more savvy than this. But no, hoodwinked again by people with classic Tory ideology pretending they are "doing it for the good of us all."  :duh
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2606 on: May 4, 2021, 02:14:48 pm »
He's just ignoring it like he should.  What do you expect him to do, get into a row with someone who's trying to bait him while it's being filmed?  He's already embarrassed himself with something like that.

Yeah and as muhc as neville is a rat and a hypocrite, him shaking the guys hand should be overthought.

simple thing to try and keep the peace and distract from the bellendery while the guy was (sort of) escorted out.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2607 on: May 4, 2021, 02:15:57 pm »

All whilst blaming and lying about us as his favourite cuck Carra nodded along.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2608 on: May 4, 2021, 02:21:46 pm »
It's bizarre, isn't it?

I've never seen anything like it.

Liverpool fans painting Mancs as Che Guevara types while those very same Mancs are fighting to be, once again, the biggest Tory on the block. No doubt offering the hand of friendship to their away following in the Arkles next season as the Mancs chant "you Scouse bastards" back at them and call them "victims".

Honestly, after all we've been through, I thought we were a lot more savvy than this. But no, hoodwinked again by people with classic Tory ideology pretending they are "doing it for the good of us all."  :duh

Maybe we should lay on a Red Brick style buffet for them to demonstrate our solidarity with their desire to be top dog again?

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2609 on: May 4, 2021, 02:23:31 pm »
And his mate and co owner of Salford Peter Lim is destroying Valencia while he's going on about this

And it's not just about Neville

United fans main contention with the Glazers is they are taking money out of the club instead of spending it. Ask them. That's their main problem.

It's all understandable but what does this have to do with us???

It has something to do with us because our next owners may well do the same. There is a chance here to make some changes that could transform the game.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2610 on: May 4, 2021, 02:23:58 pm »
Neville sacked a manager after successive promotions because they only won the play offs rather than the title, which was deemed not good enough after the amount of money they threw at it.

Keeps sacking managers because he can't accept that they aren't winning League Two (after only just getting into EFL) even though they can still make the play offs despite all the upheavel.

His billionaire buddy partner Lim has also destroyed Valencia.


From the 'Libertad VCF International' (Valencia Supporters Trust)...

'Gary @GNev2 we can forget the past. We all know that the Glazers and Lim are the same, they attack the spirit football and the fans, help us get rid of him too. #GlazersOut #LimOut'

^ https://twitter.com/libertadvcf_en/status/1389229511611494403


Yep - though am sure Neville will address this (the type of owners that give their business partners managerial jobs to friends - who by their own admission are completely unsuited) on his next Sky Soapbox Slot...
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2611 on: May 4, 2021, 02:24:11 pm »
Football makes a hypocrite of all of us.

The last few weeks are clear evidence of that whichever way you look. The last few weeks are just a magnified version of the hypocrisy, tribalism and whataboutery that has been present for years and allowed football to get to its current state. That’s not aimed just at pundits, or journalists or 1 set of supporters. It’s pretty much everyone involved in football.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2612 on: May 4, 2021, 02:27:23 pm »
If Carragher had an ounce of dignity left he'd fuck his Sky job off. He's rich enough, so doesn't need their money. In his position, I'd have been out the door long ago.
He actually looks like bozo the clown without the make up - these two pricks had a major hand in what happened Sunday and should face charges for that . FSG should bar him from Anfield and they should take ratboy to the cleaners for the slurs he used against them . Klopp was right our owners are not bad people they make greedy selfish decisions but what business doesn’t. Rat boy is trying to tar them but putting murders and gangsters on a pedestal.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2613 on: May 4, 2021, 02:30:13 pm »
It has something to do with us because our next owners may well do the same. There is a chance here to make some changes that could transform the game.

So you're now admitting that it is about their owners. ::)
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2614 on: May 4, 2021, 02:31:23 pm »
I’ll stick my neck out a bit here and may get my head lopped off.

I’d suggest that United’s fan base has more good time Charlies than most other fan bases. A lot of them saw United as top dog and so jumped on the bandwagon as they believed they would get some of the reflected glory. Yes there is a big core who have supported United for years but I’d say they have lots who couldn’t give a dam about how football is run.......it’s all about success. They don’t like it that the trophies have dried up and their idol SAF was unable to groom a clone and they haven’t been able to replace Roooooonnnay.

They, correctly, believe that if the Glazers wouldn’t take so much out of the revenue then they would have much more money to spend on another Ronaldo etc. They want the likes of Mbappe every year and if he turns out to be crap then they’ll throw more money at it. They long for the old days when they could outspend everyone and be the best.

The flaw in their argument is that they had more than enough money to build a very competitive team but they never sorted out their management team.

I can see the likes of MUST who have made reasonable suggestions but I also see a set of entitled assholes who are angry that their team isn’t top dog. And for that reason I have no smypathy for them. They are trying to con everyone into believing that they are with us and trying to get reform; some are but the vast majority will laugh in your face and hurl vile abuse at you as if that’s acceptable.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2615 on: May 4, 2021, 02:32:23 pm »
If Carragher had an ounce of dignity left he'd fuck his Sky job off. He's rich enough, so doesn't need their money. In his position, I'd have been out the door long ago.

He has his own agenda.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2616 on: May 4, 2021, 02:32:39 pm »
Maybe we should lay on a Red Brick style buffet for them to demonstrate our solidarity with their desire to be top dog again?
I love RAWK and I'm genuinely fond of the posters on here, but my god, I wouldn't put it past a few in this thread.

Just to clarify. I want to add that if Mancs or anyone else want to protest over the owners of their clubs then thats their right. Go for it, but please don't pretend you are doing it for football rather than yourselves. United and their fans have proved for decades that they have no interest or care for anything or anyone but themselves.

Anyway. Protest away if you have a grievance, but maybe stop short of violent assault and criminal damage, because that just makes football fans everywhere look like brainless, emotionally immature, inarticulate boneheads intent on setting their cause back rather than furthering it.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2617 on: May 4, 2021, 02:33:14 pm »
It has something to do with us because our next owners may well do the same. There is a chance here to make some changes that could transform the game.

I agree 100% with you. Yes there is a very big chance of that. However what I do not agree with is siding with a set of supporters who don’t give a dam about what happens to us......not one dam.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2618 on: May 4, 2021, 02:34:04 pm »
Not all United fans do this, like not all Liverpool fans do Munich shouts. c*nts on both sides, and sound fans on both sides. It's the sound fans that need to get together.

But yeah, pretending to be morally outraged by want United fans did on Sunday is cringeworthy and absolute tory behaviour.

Of all the hypocrisy in this thread, this might be the best bit :D

There’s an orange faced chap across the Atlantic who agrees with your method of ‘protest’
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2619 on: May 4, 2021, 02:34:16 pm »
Let them do their thing and we’ll do ours, whatever that might be.

The most common reaction I’ve seen is not wanting to join forces with that shower. And I’d say that’s completely understandable. The Glazers and the United fans’ protests against them have got nothing to do with us. So fuck  em. Much rather concentrate on our own club. They never helped us out with H&G, just sneered because they were winning stuff back then. And that’s fine, not a problem. We didn’t need them then, and most of us don’t want anything to do with them now. Shower of fuckin shite.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2620 on: May 4, 2021, 02:36:12 pm »
It's bizarre, isn't it?

I've never seen anything like it.

Liverpool fans painting Mancs as Che Guevara types while those very same Mancs are fighting to be, once again, the biggest Tory on the block. No doubt offering the hand of friendship to their away following in the Arkles next season as the Mancs chant "you Scouse bastards" back at them and call them "victims".

Honestly, after all we've been through, I thought we were a lot more savvy than this. But no, hoodwinked again by people with classic Tory ideology pretending they are "doing it for the good of us all."  :duh

If a mug like Andy Gray could play some fans like a fiddle then so can a much sharper sociopath in Gary Neville.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2621 on: May 4, 2021, 02:42:05 pm »
I agree 100% with you. Yes there is a very big chance of that. However what I do not agree with is siding with a set of supporters who don’t give a dam about what happens to us......not one dam.

You didn't seem to place much stock in that..
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2622 on: May 4, 2021, 02:43:43 pm »
I agree 100% with you. Yes there is a very big chance of that. However what I do not agree with is siding with a set of supporters who don’t give a dam about what happens to us......not one dam.

I am not siding with their idiot fans. I have been to Old Trafford enough times to know how vile their support can be. I am siding with MUST who have joined forces with SoS and are pushing for the same things.

This is what MUST want.

1. Willingly and openly engage and promote the government initiated fan-led review of football and use this as an opportunity to rebalance the current ownership structure in the favour of supporters and not approach this review defensively to fight for the status quo

2. Appoint independent directors to the board whose sole purpose is to protect the interest of the club as a football club, not its shareholders and their focus on profits over results

3. Work with the Manchester United Supporters Trust and supporters more broadly to put in place a share scheme that is accessible to all and that has shares with the same voting rights as those held by the Glazer family

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2623 on: May 4, 2021, 02:43:45 pm »
I’ll stick my neck out a bit here and may get my head lopped off.

I’d suggest that United’s fan base has more good time Charlies than most other fan bases. A lot of them saw United as top dog and so jumped on the bandwagon as they believed they would get some of the reflected glory. Yes there is a big core who have supported United for years but I’d say they have lots who couldn’t give a dam about how football is run.......it’s all about success. They don’t like it that the trophies have dried up and their idol SAF was unable to groom a clone and they haven’t been able to replace Roooooonnnay.

They, correctly, believe that if the Glazers wouldn’t take so much out of the revenue then they would have much more money to spend on another Ronaldo etc. They want the likes of Mbappe every year and if he turns out to be crap then they’ll throw more money at it. They long for the old days when they could outspend everyone and be the best.

The flaw in their argument is that they had more than enough money to build a very competitive team but they never sorted out their management team.

I can see the likes of MUST who have made reasonable suggestions but I also see a set of entitled assholes who are angry that their team isn’t top dog. And for that reason I have no smypathy for them. They are trying to con everyone into believing that they are with us and trying to get reform; some are but the vast majority will laugh in your face and hurl vile abuse at you as if that’s acceptable.

Which is why they were outside Woodward's house threatening him last year (while we happened to be 20 points clear for a first title in 30 years).

Now he's gone they're going after the owners.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2624 on: May 4, 2021, 02:46:03 pm »
I’ll stick my neck out a bit here and may get my head lopped off.

I’d suggest that United’s fan base has more good time Charlies than most other fan bases. A lot of them saw United as top dog and so jumped on the bandwagon as they believed they would get some of the reflected glory. Yes there is a big core who have supported United for years but I’d say they have lots who couldn’t give a dam about how football is run.......it’s all about success. They don’t like it that the trophies have dried up and their idol SAF was unable to groom a clone and they haven’t been able to replace Roooooonnnay.

They, correctly, believe that if the Glazers wouldn’t take so much out of the revenue then they would have much more money to spend on another Ronaldo etc. They want the likes of Mbappe every year and if he turns out to be crap then they’ll throw more money at it. They long for the old days when they could outspend everyone and be the best.

The flaw in their argument is that they had more than enough money to build a very competitive team but they never sorted out their management team.

I can see the likes of MUST who have made reasonable suggestions but I also see a set of entitled assholes who are angry that their team isn’t top dog. And for that reason I have no smypathy for them. They are trying to con everyone into believing that they are with us and trying to get reform; some are but the vast majority will laugh in your face and hurl vile abuse at you as if that’s acceptable.
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The elephant in OT is the fact they've had more than enough money to have maintained their success. Look at what Klopp has achieved with comparative peanuts. The reality has been poor management and poor recruitment has been their undoing, but they'd rather blame their admittedly shite owners instead.

They've ways been the biggest Tories in the league. The most entitled and self-serving. They are just flapping now because they can't bully everyone now because even bigger sharks have moved in. They know this, so just want their current shark out so they can get a bigger shark in.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2625 on: May 4, 2021, 02:49:34 pm »
I am not siding with their idiot fans. I have been to Old Trafford enough times to know how vile their support can be. I am siding with MUST who have joined forces with SoS and are pushing for the same things.

This is what MUST want.

1. Willingly and openly engage and promote the government initiated fan-led review of football and use this as an opportunity to rebalance the current ownership structure in the favour of supporters and not approach this review defensively to fight for the status quo

2. Appoint independent directors to the board whose sole purpose is to protect the interest of the club as a football club, not its shareholders and their focus on profits over results

3. Work with the Manchester United Supporters Trust and supporters more broadly to put in place a share scheme that is accessible to all and that has shares with the same voting rights as those held by the Glazer family

4. Commit to full consultation with season ticket holders on any significant changes to the future of our club, including the competitions we play in

5. Provide a commitment by Joel Glazer that any costs incurred in relation to the creation of, or withdrawal from, the European Super League will be funded solely by the Glazer family and not by the club itself. We note that the Kroenke family have already made this commitment to Arsenal fans.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2626 on: May 4, 2021, 02:54:15 pm »
I am not siding with their idiot fans. I have been to Old Trafford enough times to know how vile their support can be. I am siding with MUST who have joined forces with SoS and are pushing for the same things.

This is what MUST want.


Yes I know what they want. I don’t mind SOS and MUST joining forces but let’s not pretend that MUST reflects the majority of their fans and what their fan base really wants.

I’d be interested in one of the guys from MUST posting here to debate the topic. I’m sure that they would make some good points that we’d agree on. However I expect that their real goal is simply to get rid of the Glazers.

As we both know, we could be in a similar position when FSG sell so it is time to talk about it. In my opinion FSG are as good as we will get under the current system and I think they will listen to any good suggestions. However they are business people so will draw the line somewhere when it affects their financial control. Maybe they’ll see it as a good thing and will engage.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2627 on: May 4, 2021, 02:55:01 pm »
I find it genuinely staggering that any red can get behind anything that those c*nts do, fuck them and everything about them. Worry and concentrate on our own issues, let them sort themselves out.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2628 on: May 4, 2021, 02:58:15 pm »
I am not siding with their idiot fans. I have been to Old Trafford enough times to know how vile their support can be. I am siding with MUST who have joined forces with SoS and are pushing for the same things.

This is what MUST want.

1. Willingly and openly engage and promote the government initiated fan-led review of football and use this as an opportunity to rebalance the current ownership structure in the favour of supporters and not approach this review defensively to fight for the status quo

2. Appoint independent directors to the board whose sole purpose is to protect the interest of the club as a football club, not its shareholders and their focus on profits over results

3. Work with the Manchester United Supporters Trust and supporters more broadly to put in place a share scheme that is accessible to all and that has shares with the same voting rights as those held by the Glazer family

4. Commit to full consultation with season ticket holders on any significant changes to the future of our club, including the competitions we play in

5. Provide a commitment by Joel Glazer that any costs incurred in relation to the creation of, or withdrawal from, the European Super League will be funded solely by the Glazer family and not by the club itself. We note that the Kroenke family have already made this commitment to Arsenal fans.
I didn’t hear it myself, but read somewhere that a spokesperson for MUST was on talksport saying they want owners who will spend more money on better players?

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2629 on: May 4, 2021, 03:00:13 pm »
I am not siding with their idiot fans. I have been to Old Trafford enough times to know how vile their support can be. I am siding with MUST who have joined forces with SoS and are pushing for the same things.

This is what MUST want.

1. Willingly and openly engage and promote the government initiated fan-led review of football and use this as an opportunity to rebalance the current ownership structure in the favour of supporters and not approach this review defensively to fight for the status quo

2. Appoint independent directors to the board whose sole purpose is to protect the interest of the club as a football club, not its shareholders and their focus on profits over results

3. Work with the Manchester United Supporters Trust and supporters more broadly to put in place a share scheme that is accessible to all and that has shares with the same voting rights as those held by the Glazer family

4. Commit to full consultation with season ticket holders on any significant changes to the future of our club, including the competitions we play in

5. Provide a commitment by Joel Glazer that any costs incurred in relation to the creation of, or withdrawal from, the European Super League will be funded solely by the Glazer family and not by the club itself. We note that the Kroenke family have already made this commitment to Arsenal fans.
I applaud the sentiment and agree that positive changes can be made. I just don't agree that Sunday was the first step to realising that. I think clowns are scary and distract from the adults in the room. By all means let's have the fan groups out in support and working together. Not this. Not self-appointed guardians turning up for a dust-up.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2630 on: May 4, 2021, 03:03:21 pm »
This is what happened

Gary Neville was on his soap box over this and in the next breath was talking about United need to get a winger striker and CB in the next window, presumably spending 200mil in the process

This isn't about modern football

Gary Neville has been a hypocrite for a long time about so many things it surely has to trip him up. That clip of Simon Jordan having a go at him was great. Roy Keane is no better. Has a go at the club and how its all about money, then goes on Sky and tells them to pay whatever it takes to sign Kane and Grealish. They confuse the bayjaysus out of me to be honest that lot.
They don't care about the good of football, they care that the last few years it has been us and Man City fighting it out and winning the big trophies.
Their chairman of some sort of supporters club was on the radio the other day and he kept repeating that their issue is they have been outspent by Everton. They have a net spend of what ?  nearly a billion in the last 10 years ?  And they've spent it badly, that's their problem. Would they be invading stadiums or standing pissed outside hotels if they were the ones who could of won the league on Sunday and not City ?  Course not.  Once that happens and they start to challenge properly again, them same people who were in the stadium protesting for "what's right for football" will go quiet again and go back to being slabbers

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2631 on: May 4, 2021, 03:05:24 pm »
Anyone else think G Nev is using Sky Sports as a soap box, to rile up the fans into a frenzy to get rid of the owners, then him & his Posse will ride in on white horses and take over as the saviors of Utd?
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2632 on: May 4, 2021, 03:06:20 pm »
Can we ask when this match is now going to happen?

Because having not inconvenienced United by handing 3 points to us, they now surely have to be inconvenienced by playing 3 matches in one of the remaining weeks?

Playing it after the Europa League final seems bizarre and punishes our European international players who need a bloody break before the Summer tournament that itself no one bloody needs!!
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2633 on: May 4, 2021, 03:08:52 pm »
Anyone else think G Nev is using Sky Sports as a soap box, to rile up the fans into a frenzy to get rid of the owners, then him & his Posse will ride in on white horses and take over as the saviors of Utd?
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2634 on: May 4, 2021, 03:12:45 pm »
What's with all this "We decide when you will play" stuff?

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2635 on: May 4, 2021, 03:22:53 pm »
It's because the clock cannot and will not get turned back. Also, an awful lot of us can see right through this. They aren't doing anything for the good of football. Just the good of themselves. They never cared about the rest when they were top dogs and they don't now. All they care about is getting one capitalist out so they can get a bigger, more generous one in.

Football as we knew it was sold in 1992. The 'good old days' aren't coming back. This is what football signed up for in '92. What we have now was inevitable from that day on. I hate it. It's shite, but the clock can't be turned back and the genie cannot be put back in the bottle.

These Mancs are rioting for the chance to be, once again, the biggest Tory on the block, yet some in here have been hoodwinked into seeing them as the new The Guevara. It was riot based in pure self interest, dressed as an uprising of the people. Plenty in here can see right through it.

I refer to it as the day football was privatised.

You're right, it's not coming back.  It's dead and gone and the mutated filth that remains is rapidly accelerating.  Nobody is rising up to reclaim it.

Fans are taken for mugs because of their emotional investment into decades - centuries - of storied history in their clubs.  19/6 etc etc.  The "Wall of Champions" is a hook with which to catch the new generation.

Oddly enough, I don't blame FSG for that.  They are what they are.  They may have pushed for the ESL, but there are worse offenders out there.  In a footballing world where money talks, it's get on the boat or be left behind. Like when you're running but your momentum starts threatening to trip you over.

To quote the movie War Games - "The only winning move is not to play".  The moment City came in, the game - which was already on life support - became brain dead.  We've been loving a living corpse for the best part of 15 years, hoping against hope that every hand squeeze or eye twitch under the lid was a sign of life.

If we want football back, we have to stop caring.  We have to stop caring what happens with these clubs, with our club.  We have to give up on what the top tier has become, and abandon it.  But we wont, because we know that they know we can and will be easily replaced.  And we're too stubborn to give them the satisfaction.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2636 on: May 4, 2021, 03:23:44 pm »
Anyone else think G Nev is using Sky Sports as a soap box, to rile up the fans into a frenzy to get rid of the owners, then him & his Posse will ride in on white horses and take over as the saviors of Utd?

If that's true than I hope he does as good a job saving United as he did rescuing Valencia.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2637 on: May 4, 2021, 03:25:01 pm »
Personally I hope the Glazers suck every last penny out of them, then hand over the reigns to Gary Neville.


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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2638 on: May 4, 2021, 03:27:25 pm »
This is what happened

Gary Neville was on his soap box over this and in the next breath was talking about United need to get a winger striker and CB in the next window, presumably spending 200mil in the process

This isn't about modern football

"Whatever it takes" is what was said I seem to recall.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2639 on: May 4, 2021, 03:27:33 pm »


To quote the movie War Games - "The only winning move is not to play".  The moment Chelsea then City came in, the game - which was already on life support - became brain dead.  We've been loving a living corpse for the best part of 15 years, hoping against hope that every hand squeeze or eye twitch under the lid was a sign of life.


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