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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2560 on: May 4, 2021, 12:58:34 pm »
New video has emerged on Twitter of them goading Souness chanting ''Scouse C&nt'' at him.

https://twitter.com/Anthony29624583/status/1389534191184908289?s=19

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2561 on: May 4, 2021, 01:02:21 pm »
Ha that's literally just one dickhead shouting it at anyone from Liverpool.  Souness treated it with the contempt it deserved by just smirking at him.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2562 on: May 4, 2021, 01:02:27 pm »
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2565 on: May 4, 2021, 01:08:45 pm »
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2566 on: May 4, 2021, 01:10:17 pm »
https://twitter.com/Anthony29624583/status/1389534191184908289?s=19
They also called Souness a "gnome" ?!

And what on earth is a "wank-eh" ?!

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2567 on: May 4, 2021, 01:13:41 pm »
Ahhh, there's the solidarity.

It isn't about having solidarity with their idiots. It is about having solidarity with their decent fans. The ones who have similar goals to ourselves.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2568 on: May 4, 2021, 01:15:10 pm »
It isn't about having solidarity with their idiots. It is about having solidarity with their decent fans. The ones who have similar goals to ourselves.

It's kind of unfortunate then that their idiots have taken over the whole media coverage through their actions, and at the moment solidarity with their sane lot will automatically look like solidarity with their idiots.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2569 on: May 4, 2021, 01:18:14 pm »
Ha that's literally just one dickhead shouting it at anyone from Liverpool.

I know the Manc Accent is bland & monotone but there's definitely more than one voice hurling insults there.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2570 on: May 4, 2021, 01:18:21 pm »
All the fucking moral high ground Neville has taken about the pandemic and there he is, willingly shaking hands with anyone who wants to on camera. What an absolute cock.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2571 on: May 4, 2021, 01:21:48 pm »

No, because there was already a game on Sky MNF.  Two actually.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2572 on: May 4, 2021, 01:22:12 pm »
It's kind of unfortunate then that their idiots have taken over the whole media coverage through their actions, and at the moment solidarity with their sane lot will automatically look like solidarity with their idiots.

It is possible though to condemn the violence and offensive chants but still want the likes of MUST and SoS to continue to push for fan representation, regulation and a fairer game.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2573 on: May 4, 2021, 01:22:52 pm »
It is possible though to condemn the violence and offensive chants but still want the likes of MUST and SoS to continue to push for fan representation, regulation and a fairer game.

I imagine the vast majority of people in here are in this camp. I'm not seen anyone suggesting otherwise.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2574 on: May 4, 2021, 01:22:58 pm »
It isn't about having solidarity with their idiots. It is about having solidarity with their decent fans. The ones who have similar goals to ourselves.
I would argue that the people who invaded the stadium and had a running battle with the police are the idiots.

I would also add that the United fans I know have called me a clown for not getting how wonderful what they did was. Apparently to save the soul of football they need owners that will spend more money #gosocialism.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2575 on: May 4, 2021, 01:25:17 pm »
And some who just wanted to kick off with the bizzies and run on the pitch and be knobheads.

and by some, you mean all.  At least, just get out of the house and have a little piss up and a song or two. Obviously, an understandable desire for damn near everybody everywhere these days.

The romantics seem unable to separate the turmoil in football from the actions of these revelers and seem compelled to assign highbrow and noble motives to the participants and see it as a good first step in a larger process.

Well im a realist and i assign low brow and simple motives to the participants, ie the strong desire to neck down a few cans, have a song and a dance and in the process mess with our competitive chances and city's coronation.

There wasn't even a hint of super league involved and the Glazers are a 17 year old problem that at best served as a pretext for calling a party.

i'll say it for about that 5th time, if all or many of the supporters groups get together and do completely peaceful mixed group actions all at the same time, that will be the thing the romantics are dreaming of. This particular thing was was not that. This particular thing was fierce rival fans on the lash taking the piss right out of us specifically and really hurting our competitive chances big time, scott free so far.

The handful that went way too far are almost inevitable in any crowd of drinkers so i can see why people might try and excuse "the few" but it doesn't follow that the rest of them all had some great noble purpose of any kind. they are just slightly more stable partyiers and i doubt a long term state of football fleeting thought was fleeted amongst the entire lot of them, unless you count the joel glazers gonna die songs.

Just because a slightly more coherent supporters group sobered up the next day and released a statement saying it was all for the love of the game and please consider our reform proposals .....well, be romantic if you wish but im staying real. total horseshit, that.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2577 on: May 4, 2021, 01:29:14 pm »
What will be the consequences of this? Because clubs are held accountable for the actions of their fans right? A whole game had to be called off for this...

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2578 on: May 4, 2021, 01:29:23 pm »
https://twitter.com/Anthony29624583/status/1389534191184908289?s=19

Carragher  just has to stand there and take it, as he's the Mancs bitch now after the spit
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2579 on: May 4, 2021, 01:30:13 pm »
Carragher  just has to stand there and take it, as he's the Mancs bitch now after the spit

He's just ignoring it like he should.  What do you expect him to do, get into a row with someone who's trying to bait him while it's being filmed?  He's already embarrassed himself with something like that.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2580 on: May 4, 2021, 01:32:46 pm »
No way will they get points deducted or charged by the FA/PL.

There were clubs around Christmas time cancelling fixtures due to Covid outbreaks, which were caused by players breaking bubbles and Covid protocols somewhere. That was potentially a matter of life and death, and a direct consequence of players/staff not taking the necessary precautions.

Sunday's cancellation was caused by the fans. Not the club's own doing.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2581 on: May 4, 2021, 01:34:39 pm »
Are they protesting tonight at the City match?
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2582 on: May 4, 2021, 01:35:01 pm »
He's just ignoring it like he should.  What do you expect him to do, get into a row with someone who's trying to bait him while it's being filmed?  He's already embarrassed himself with something like that.

He gets a bunch of personal abuse on the pitch, talks to the steward who had his face scarred and then falls over himself on Sky to defend them, make out they're football's saviour and calls it a peaceful protest. As I say, he's the Mancs bitch for the sake of his job because he spat at a kid.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2583 on: May 4, 2021, 01:36:06 pm »
He gets a bunch of personal abuse on the pitch, talks to the steward who had his face scarred and then falls over himself on Sky to defend them and call it a peaceful protest. As I say, he's the Mancs bitch for the sake of his job because he spat at a kid.

Maybe shouldn't go spitting at kids then?
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2584 on: May 4, 2021, 01:36:13 pm »
Are they protesting tonight at the City match?

Hopefully they’ll progress the 50+1 movement again by lobbing some breeze blocks at a few coppers, slash a few more stewards, sing a few more anti-Liverpool songs and maybe call John Terry’s mum a slag.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2585 on: May 4, 2021, 01:36:25 pm »
Not all United fans do this, like not all Liverpool fans do Munich shouts. c*nts on both sides, and sound fans on both sides. It's the sound fans that need to get together.

But yeah, pretending to be morally outraged by want United fans did on Sunday is cringeworthy and absolute tory behaviour.
I've seen it all now. Fuck me, I was out of this thread, but I can't let that accusation go. Manc apologists with a Liver bird on their chest on here calling fellow Reds Tories because they disagree with pissed-up rioters who are fighting not for working class game, but to oust one billionaire so they can get in another one who is more willing to spend like Abu Dhabi do with their neighbours.

No one there (other than a few fantasists who actually believe football will ever turn the clock back) was rioting for the good of football. They were rioting because they are being left behind and don't like it. Man United and their fans are the biggest Tories going. Their underlying approach is classic Tory. They want an owner out so they can get another one in who is prepared to blow the rest out of the water financially so they can get back where they think they belong.

So here we are, a small band of Liverpool fans calling other Reds Tories for calling out the violent actions of Man United fans who are rioting in support of Tory ideals. It's embarrassing as it is bizarre. You couldn't make it up. These people aren't Castro and Guevara, they are fighting to be the biggest Tory in the league, and some blinkered Reds in here are cheering them on.

We live in a Tory, social Darwinist sport obsessed with money regardless of where it comes from, and some still believe in the fantasy that we can turn the clock back. Well, we can't. This is what we all signed up for in 1992. Communities are never getting their clubs back. Let's face it, pretty much every fanbase would be dancing in the streets if a dodgy billionaire took them over. Look at the ever self righteous Everton. Literally begging for the Uzbek gangster to bankroll them out of obscurity. They don't care. They wouldn't care if he was the devil incarnate so long as he lavishes the cash on them.

Sadly, we follow a sport with Tory ideals. It has social Darwinist values, and so do the fanbases now. As soon as United get out of the shit (if they ever do) they will revert to type, lord it over everyone else once more and laugh at their own fights for things that matter to them. They don't care about us. They don't care about the wider game. They only care about themselves. The ultimate Tories, yet we have blinkered, hoodwinked Reds on here applauding them on and calling fellow Reds "Tories". It's mindbogglingly embarrassing.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2586 on: May 4, 2021, 01:39:06 pm »
He's just ignoring it like he should.  What do you expect him to do, get into a row with someone who's trying to bait him while it's being filmed?  He's already embarrassed himself with something like that.

Plus with a mask on if he wants to retaliate in his preferred manner, he'll just end up spitting all over himself.

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2587 on: May 4, 2021, 01:40:08 pm »
It isn't about having solidarity with their idiots. It is about having solidarity with their decent fans. The ones who have similar goals to ourselves.

Give me one reason why?
Firstly what are their goals as they seem to be all over the place.

Their gripe with the Glazers has been going on for years and it boils down to them wanting the Glazers to take less money out of the revenue that the club generates. Since Ferguson retired their net spend is 2nd only to City’s but yet they are way behind City (and us.......not this year obviously). They don’t care about other clubs nor how the game is run.......that’s just a smokescreen. They want to regain top dog spot where they think they should be. They see an opportunity for other clubs to help them achieve this.

Just pop over to Redcafe to see what the “average” fan thinks of us.

The protests on Sunday were badly organised and the aggressive behaviour to the police and others was disgusting.

Yes there are decent supporters amongst them but don’t be fooled into thinking that they care about anything other than regaining “their rightful place”.

We don’t have owners that are nearly as bad as the Glazers. Yes there is the big risk that the next ones could be awful and for that reason I support dialogue to try to minimise the risk. But I am not going to side with a set of supporters who cannot protest peacefully and who generally show utter comtemp to us.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2588 on: May 4, 2021, 01:40:41 pm »
Not all United fans do this, like not all Liverpool fans do Munich shouts. c*nts on both sides, and sound fans on both sides. It's the sound fans that need to get together.

But yeah, pretending to be morally outraged by want United fans did on Sunday is cringeworthy and absolute tory behaviour.
It might be a good idea to qualify exactly what you mean by this, especially that last bit. Are you insinuating that there are people on this site "pretending to be morally outraged" or does this refer to people elsewhere?

If the former, then adding the bit about "tory behaviour" is absolutely unacceptable.

You are, however, correct in stating that fans of ALL clubs right now should be, um, united (sorry!) against the wholesale commercialisation of football. Seemingly lashing out accusations of tory behaviour in here though isn't the way to go.

So please, clarify. Thanks. That's the only reason why I came into this thread by the way - your post has riled a lot of people.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2589 on: May 4, 2021, 01:44:29 pm »
I've seen it all now. Fuck me, I was out of this thread, but I can't let that accusation go. Manc apologists with a Liver bird on their chest on here calling fellow Reds Tories because they disagree with pissed-up rioters who are fighting not for working class game, but to oust one billionaire so they can get in another one who is more willing to spend like Abu Dhabi do with their neighbours.

No one there (other than a few fantasists who actually believe football will ever turn the clock back) was rioting for the good of football. They were rioting because they are being left behind and don't like it. Man United and their fans are the biggest Tories going. Their underlying approach is classic Tory. They want an owner out so they can get another one in who is prepared to blow the rest out of the water financially so they can get back where they think they belong.

So here we are, a small band of Liverpool fans calling other Reds Tories for calling out the violent actions of Man United fans who are rioting in support of Tory ideals. It's embarrassing as it is bizarre. You couldn't make it up. These people aren't Castro and Guevara, they are fighting to be the biggest Tory in the league, and some blinkered Reds in here are cheering them on.

We live in a Tory, social Darwinist sport obsessed with money regardless of where it comes from, and some still believe in the fantasy that we can turn the clock back. Well, we can't. This is what we all signed up for in 1992. Communities are never getting their clubs back. Let's face it, pretty much every fanbase would be dancing in the streets if a dodgy billionaire took them over. Look at the ever self righteous Everton. Literally begging for the Uzbek gangster to bankroll them out of obscurity. They don't care. They wouldn't care if he was the devil incarnate so long as he lavishes the cash on them.

Sadly, we follow a sport with Tory ideals. It has social Darwinist values, and so do the fanbases now. As soon as United get out of the shit (if they ever do) they will revert to type, lord it over everyone else once more and laugh at their own fights for things that matter to them. They don't care about us. They don't care about the wider game. They only care about themselves. The ultimate Tories, yet we have blinkered, hoodwinked Reds on here applauding them on and calling fellow Reds "Tories". It's mindbogglingly embarrassing.


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And bizarrely, as irony is layered onto irony, no club apart from City has spent more than United in the last 10 years on transfers. United are protesting because they didn't hire a proper Director of Football (so some of their many signings have been shit or pointless strategically) And because Glazers have spent very little on their infrastructure.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2590 on: May 4, 2021, 01:45:19 pm »
Excellent post.

Been disappointed with the reaction on here. Not sure how people can shake their head about the state of modern football one second and then moan when fans actually do something about it the next.

Because fans protesting over wanting their owners out to be replaced by owners that will spend even more doe than theyre already spending and win them things isn't a protest over modern football, it's an example of modern football in all its bullshit

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« Reply #2592 on: May 4, 2021, 01:50:03 pm »
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2593 on: May 4, 2021, 01:50:15 pm »
No way will they get points deducted or charged by the FA/PL.

There were clubs around Christmas time cancelling fixtures due to Covid outbreaks, which were caused by players breaking bubbles and Covid protocols somewhere. That was potentially a matter of life and death, and a direct consequence of players/staff not taking the necessary precautions.

Sunday's cancellation was caused by the fans. Not the club's own doing.

Their fans threw lit flares at Sky pundits inside the ground, and at police outside the ground. That is potentially a matter of life and death.

It was known at least 2 days in advance that this would be happening. The events that unfolded were a direct consequence of the club not taking the necessary precautions.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2594 on: May 4, 2021, 01:51:06 pm »
The club is responsible for the safety of their own stadium.

If they can't play a game that's been caused by their fans then that's down to them.

Dead right. Their fans, easily breaking into their stadium due to their lack of security, to protest their owners.

It didn't come out of nowhere either - it had been talked about all week that there would be protesting. That United and Old Trafford seemed to be completely unprepared for this is also the club's problem, not just fans.

The only way we should be agreeig to a reschedule is if it totally favours us and falls at an inconvenient time for them, and we're honestly well within our rights to tell the PL and Man United to fuck off completely.

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« Reply #2595 on: May 4, 2021, 01:51:42 pm »
I've seen it all now. Fuck me, I was out of this thread, but I can't let that accusation go. Manc apologists with a Liver bird on their chest on here calling fellow Reds Tories because they disagree with pissed-up rioters who are fighting not for working class game, but to oust one billionaire so they can get in another one who is more willing to spend like Abu Dhabi do with their neighbours.

No one there (other than a few fantasists who actually believe football will ever turn the clock back) was rioting for the good of football. They were rioting because they are being left behind and don't like it. Man United and their fans are the biggest Tories going. Their underlying approach is classic Tory. They want an owner out so they can get another one in who is prepared to blow the rest out of the water financially so they can get back where they think they belong.

So here we are, a small band of Liverpool fans calling other Reds Tories for calling out the violent actions of Man United fans who are rioting in support of Tory ideals. It's embarrassing as it is bizarre. You couldn't make it up. These people aren't Castro and Guevara, they are fighting to be the biggest Tory in the league, and some blinkered Reds in here are cheering them on.

We live in a Tory, social Darwinist sport obsessed with money regardless of where it comes from, and some still believe in the fantasy that we can turn the clock back. Well, we can't. This is what we all signed up for in 1992. Communities are never getting their clubs back. Let's face it, pretty much every fanbase would be dancing in the streets if a dodgy billionaire took them over. Look at the ever self righteous Everton. Literally begging for the Uzbek gangster to bankroll them out of obscurity. They don't care. They wouldn't care if he was the devil incarnate so long as he lavishes the cash on them.

Sadly, we follow a sport with Tory ideals. It has social Darwinist values, and so do the fanbases now. As soon as United get out of the shit (if they ever do) they will revert to type, lord it over everyone else once more and laugh at their own fights for things that matter to them. They don't care about us. They don't care about the wider game. They only care about themselves. The ultimate Tories, yet we have blinkered, hoodwinked Reds on here applauding them on and calling fellow Reds "Tories". It's mindbogglingly embarrassing.

There'll be fans on here walking into The Arkles next season to try and shake the Mancs hands for fighting the good fight in getting the Glazers out with the Saudis coming in, enabling them to spend 400 mill in the summer rather than 200. If you don't you're a Tory. Even while they're in there chanting about Liverpool slums and council houses.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2596 on: May 4, 2021, 01:51:52 pm »
That video shows that it’s about them.

It was never about anyone else.
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« Reply #2597 on: May 4, 2021, 01:54:15 pm »
I don't think there's a choice, the FA or the PL have to hand out some sort of serious punishment. Otherwise there's nothing to stop Newcastle fans or Arsenal fans doing the same thing the next time. And good luck punishing clubs later if you set a precedent of not doing anything the first time.

So for the sake of their product, a proper punishment is due.
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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2598 on: May 4, 2021, 01:54:15 pm »
Because fans protesting over wanting their owners out to be replaced by owners that will spend even more doe than theyre already spending and win them things isn't a protest over modern football, it's an example of modern football in all its bullshit

This is what happened

Gary Neville was on his soap box over this and in the next breath was talking about United need to get a winger striker and CB in the next window, presumably spending 200mil in the process

This isn't about modern football

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Re: Mancs away 2/5
« Reply #2599 on: May 4, 2021, 01:57:09 pm »
This is what happened

Gary Neville was on his soap box over this and in the next breath was talking about United need to get a winger striker and CB in the next window, presumably spending 200mil in the process

This isn't about modern football

It's about boosting Ole's transfer kitty to take on City. Nothing else.
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