Topic: The Run Home and CL Qualification

[El Lobo]

Fair enough. I didn't think Spurs would get top 4 at the start of the season, with Kane, so if they lose him to injury I wont argue that they could cope. He is hugely important to them obviously, but we're very dependent on Firmino as well.

It's a marginal call, but I'm not certain that say, Moura, Alli and Son, with Eriksen as well, isn't a better attack than Mane, Ings, Salah (with Lallana behind), all things considered. Not a lot in it though, and Firmino isn't injured often anyway, so I hope it wont matter in the end.

I know their win percentage falls fairly substantially without Kane as opposed to with him.

Dunno about ours without Firmino or Salah because they barely miss a game!

[stevieheighway]

That Utd Sevilla game tonight was utter tripe, I hope we get the winner of that tie in the next round, they are both shite

[puroresu_kid]

Wrong thread

[conman]

That Utd Sevilla game tonight was utter tripe, I hope we get the winner of that tie in the next round, they are both shite

There are no winners of this tie

[Mighty_Red]

The next 2 matches are so important and need all our focus - both are home games and are nailed on wins as long as we turn up. We know that Moyes will try to park the bus, and we don't need to explain the threat Rafa has.

With no other distractions, 6 points is a must. Win these and it will set us up nicely for Old Trafford. We will go there either in 2nd or at the very least in 3rd clear of 4th & 5th. Win there and it will simply be a case of whether we end up 2nd or 3rd - CL qualification will be all but done allowing us to concentrate on that CL quarter final without worrying about the odd dropped points in the league.

 

[vblfc]

The next 2 matches are so important and need all our focus - both are home games and are nailed on wins as long as we turn up. We know that Moyes will try to park the bus, and we don't need to explain the threat Rafa has.

With no other distractions, 6 points is a must. Win these and it will set us up nicely for Old Trafford. We will go there either in 2nd or at the very least in 3rd clear of 4th & 5th. Win there and it will simply be a case of whether we end up 2nd or 3rd - CL qualification will be all but done allowing us to concentrate on that CL quarter final without worrying about the odd dropped points in the league.

Like it, but....When was the last time we did anything simply or were able to go into anything without worrying?   

[Bergersrightwingviews]

Feels dirty, but Man Utd beating Chelsea probably the best result for us. The more distance between 4th and 5th the better.

[Qston]

Feels dirty, but Man Utd beating Chelsea probably the best result for us. The more distance between 4th and 5th the better.

I agree. Qualifying for next season is the aim and whilst 2nd at the end of the season would be great the first aim is just top 4 and see what we can do in the CL this season. Nice gap now. Win against United would be even sweeter

[SP]

Feels dirty, but Man Utd beating Chelsea probably the best result for us. The more distance between 4th and 5th the better.

It would feel sweeter to overtake the Mancs by beating them at their place.

[Geormajesty]

Feels dirty, but Man Utd beating Chelsea probably the best result for us. The more distance between 4th and 5th the better.

Chelsea at the Etihad next Sunday as well, could be a 5 point gap between 4th and 5th this time next week.

[Bergersrightwingviews]

It would feel sweeter to overtake the Mancs by beating them at their place.

It sure will. Let’s see a gap open up between 4th and 5th and just beat the mancs anyway.

[End Product]

Newcastle home win
Porto 2nd leg
United away loss
Watford home win
Palace away win
Quarter final 1st leg
Everton away loss
Quarter final 2nd leg
Bournemouth home win
Wba away win
Semi final 1st leg
Stoke home win
Semi final 2nd leg
Chelsea away loss
Brighton home win
 Champions league Final win
Town

Last ten league games,  7 wins from ten will give us 78 points which should be enough.  although a hellish scenario Could afford to lose  our 3 hardest games at Chelsea Everton and United. The start of April is going to be juicy with Everton sandwiched between the quarters. Who will become a hero at goodison for injuring one  of ours?

[rscanderlech]

Hopefully we'll gain some more points on the other teams before CL quarter finals. We could do with having a little pressure taken off us to win the games the come either side of, and between each leg.

But I think we'll be fine either way.

[KevLFC]

Newcastle home win
Porto 2nd leg
United away loss
Watford home win
Palace away win
Quarter final 1st leg
Everton away loss
Quarter final 2nd leg
Bournemouth home win
Wba away win
Semi final 1st leg
Stoke home win
Semi final 2nd leg
Chelsea away loss
Brighton home win
 Champions league Final win
Town

Last ten league games,  7 wins from ten will give us 78 points which should be enough.  although a hellish scenario Could afford to lose  our 3 hardest games at Chelsea Everton and United. The start of April is going to be juicy with Everton sandwiched between the quarters. Who will become a hero at goodison for injuring one  of ours?

I'll go with that. Everton are due a win. Palace away won't be easy either but just look at those home games!. Not sure who the rest have but I am hoping Chelsea will just melt into the distance.

[alvaro]

Right now we have

United +6
Liverpool +4
Spurs +2
Chelsea 0

If we manage to  hold Chelsea to a 4 point gap in the next 8 games we could afford to lose to them but if they close the gap a bit then losing that game would be a complete disaster.

Right now we need to beat Newcastle and see what happens in the City Chelsea game. If Chelsea lose that game maybe Mourinho will offer us a tacit 0-0 and we will take it.

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

maybe Mourinho will offer us a tacit 0-0.

He will

and we will take it

Will we fuck

[killer-heels]

Right now we have

United +6
Liverpool +4
Spurs +2
Chelsea 0

If we manage to  hold Chelsea to a 4 point gap in the next 8 games we could afford to lose to them but if they close the gap a bit then losing that game would be a complete disaster.

Right now we need to beat Newcastle and see what happens in the City Chelsea game. If Chelsea lose that game maybe Mourinho will offer us a tacit 0-0 and we will take it.

Far too long to go to worry about that Chelsea game right now.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

The game against Chelsea is the 2nd to last game left, why on Earth are we discussing this now? Plenty of things can happen to all sides, as Chelsea shown when they lost back to back to sides that everyone expected them to beat [and we did the same against Swansea].

One game at a time.

[Circa1892]

although a hellish scenario Could afford to lose  our 3 hardest games at Chelsea Everton and United.

Hardest? Have you seen the shit Allardyce is serving up at the moment?

[Gus 1855]

Must say, it is looking good for 4th, though I reckon the next round of games are crucial.if we beat the Geordie’s and Chelsea loose at City, you’d think we’d be in great shape. Cannot see Spurs dropping out now, reckon they’ll be 2nd. Then between us, Utd and Chelsea for the other spots.

[El Lobo]

Must say, it is looking good for 4th, though I reckon the next round of games are crucial.if we beat the Geordie’s and Chelsea loose at City, you’d think we’d be in great shape. Cannot see Spurs dropping out now, reckon they’ll be 2nd. Then between us, Utd and Chelsea for the other spots.

Don’t get that at all mate.

We’re in better form, getting players back from injury (Lallana, Clyne) and fewer games in all comps.

[wige]

From what I've seen, the best four teams in the league are in the top four spots. Just the order to be decided now.

Personally I think both ourselves and Spurs have achieved greater heights this season than United and would hope the table reflects that at the end of the season.

That said, we have a quarter of the season still to play, so we must maintain performances, do that, and we'll get the results.

I'm pretty confident we're gonna beat Newcastle, qualify for the quarters and go into thay match at Old Trafford with a mindset to win the fight and therefore the right to play our game. Do that, and, again, hit our performance levels, then I fancy a win.

From there, it's a case of concentration game by game.

I reckon we finish top 3 at worst

[killer-heels]

Must say, it is looking good for 4th, though I reckon the next round of games are crucial.if we beat the Geordie’s and Chelsea loose at City, you’d think we’d be in great shape. Cannot see Spurs dropping out now, reckon they’ll be 2nd. Then between us, Utd and Chelsea for the other spots.

Nobody but City look better than us. We have scored a shit load of goals, have a virtually injury free squad and are the form team. Spurs barely got past a second string Palace side today.

[Nick110581]

Nobody but City look better than us. We have scored a shit load of goals, have a virtually injury free squad and are the form team. Spurs barely got past a second string Palace side today.

Spurs are the form side.

Haven't lost in ages.

[killer-heels]

Spurs are the form side.

Haven't lost in ages.

How far do you look back? Last 10 games its us. Last 20 games we are 2nd to City.

[JackWard33]

Very hard to see us finishing outside the top 4 now. You’d need to believe Chelsea can finish above us and that’s really hard to make a case for with remaining schedule / points gd / how we’re both playing

[Crosby Nick]

How far do you look back? Last 10 games its us. Last 20 games we are 2nd to City.

Last 5 it’s Spurs by a point. Basically we’re both in very good form. United stole a march on both of us early on but since October we’ve both been better than United. They have that buffer now though so I guess Chelsea are the ones in real trouble.

[Alf]

Really we'd want to be 6 points clear of Chelsea before we go to Stamford Bridge, easier said than done. I know a few on here were looking at us going to Swansea and winning which would have left us 8 points clear of Spurs had we beat them too. We've got some difficult games on the road coming up so winning our home games will be essential in the run in.

[the_red_pill]

How far do you look back? Last 10 games its us. Last 20 games we are 2nd to City.

Not to mention the last 28 games in the league(we can go that far since that's the start of the CURRENT season), we've lost 3 and Spurs 5- scoring 12 more than them in the process. Of course we're the form team.

[Mr_Shane]

Chelsea still got to play us, Spurs, City. they also got Leicester and Burnley and teams who are going to be fighting against relegation threatened sides, which can be real banana skins if you are not prepared to scrap.

Spurs still got to play Man City as well.

I do not fear any of the teams we are going to be playing against us in our last ten games. We have the firepower to beat all of them. Man Utd and Chelsea are probably going to be the toughest and that is only because referees are going to be more lenient toward the home side.

[KurtVerbose]

Hardest? Have you seen the shit Allardyce is serving up at the moment?

Not to mention Moreen and Conte.

[terry_macss_perm]

Like it, but....When was the last time we did anything simply or were able to go into anything without worrying?   

You worried about the Porto second leg?

[Fordy]

Spurs are the form side.

Haven't lost in ages.

Got the easiest run in also.

[Bobinhood]

That Table is utterly deranged. All 4 teams are walking a tightrope. Personally i'd love to see the Mancs trainwreck, obviously, but all the teams are too good to miss out and someones going to. Just got to keep winning, lads.

[MNAA]

Newcastle home win
Porto 2nd leg
United away loss
Watford home win
Palace away win
Quarter final 1st leg
Everton away loss
Quarter final 2nd leg
Bournemouth home win
Wba away win
Semi final 1st leg
Stoke home win
Semi final 2nd leg
Chelsea away loss
Brighton home win
 Champions league Final win
Town

Last ten league games,  7 wins from ten will give us 78 points which should be enough.  although a hellish scenario Could afford to lose  our 3 hardest games at Chelsea Everton and United. The start of April is going to be juicy with Everton sandwiched between the quarters. Who will become a hero at goodison for injuring one  of ours?

Show some faith. We only lost 3 games with 10 to go and we’re going to lose 3 in the last 10? We are going after 2nd and I can bet you that Klopp will get the team to fight for all 30 points. We’re in a much better place now compared to the start of the season. No long term injuries. Players have been conditioned to finish the season strongly. We’re arguably better defensively with Big Virgil and Karius settled as no 1 keeper

Believe i the team - we are not going to lose at Goodison. No way ...

[KopThat]

Here is the top 6 run in, and beside each team how many of the top 6 they have to play

Manchester City – 72 pts  (4)
Arsenal (a)
Chelsea
Stoke (a)
Brighton
Everton (a)
Man United
Spurs (a)
Swansea
West Ham (a)
Huddersfield
Southampton (a)

Manchester United – 59 pts (3)
Palace (a)
Liverpool
West Ham (a)
Swansea
Man City (a)
West Brom
Bournemouth (a)
Arsenal
Brighton (a)
Watford

Liverpool –  57 pts (2)
Newcastle
Man United (a)
Watford
Palace (a)
Everton (a)
Bournemouth
West Brom (a)
Stoke
Chelsea (a)
Brighton

Spurs – 55 pts   (2)
Palace
Huddersfield
Bournemouth (a)
Newcastle
Chelsea (a)
Stoke (a)
Man City
Brighton (a)
Watford
West Brom (a)
Leicester

Chelsea – 53 pts (3)
Man City (a)
Palace
Burnley (a)
Spurs
West Ham
Southampton (a)
Huddersfield
Swansea (a)
Liverpool
Newcastle (a)

Arsenal – 45 pts (2)
Man City
Brighton (a)
Watford
Leicester (a)
Stoke
Southampton
Newcastle (a)
West Ham
Man United (a)
Burnley
Huddersfield (a)

[Gus 1855]

Don’t get that at all mate.

We’re in better form, getting players back from injury (Lallana, Clyne) and fewer games in all comps.

Just think we’ve marginally tougher fixtures. Also perhaps a little pessimistic on my part.

[End Product]

Show some faith. We only lost 3 games with 10 to go and we’re going to lose 3 in the last 10? We are going after 2nd and I can bet you that Klopp will get the team to fight for all 30 points. We’re in a much better place now compared to the start of the season. No long term injuries. Players have been conditioned to finish the season strongly. We’re arguably better defensively with Big Virgil and Karius settled as no 1 keeper

Believe i the team - we are not going to lose at Goodison. No way ...

No we won't lose at Everton. 
It's not a prediction,  just outlining we could absorb three horrible losses and hit a top 4 point tally.  for me I don't care weather we finish 2nd or 4th,  as long as our key players are fit we will be good. 

Champions league we have a genuine shot.

[rkgriffin]

Still can’t believe Swansea got a result against us.     If one of the bottom clubs can get a result off Spurs we should be set. Almost happened today with Palace.

Just have to make sure we keep up the wins so that City can’t play a second team in league games. Need them to still win all their big games.

[slimbo]

Updated with Current points.

Remaining games in EPL vs top 8 teams:

United 59 - Liverpool, City, Arsenal

Liverpool 57 - United, Chelsea

Spurs 55 - Chelsea, City, Leicester

Chelsea 53 - City, Burnley, Spurs, Liverpool

Arsenal 45 - City, Leicester, United, Burnley