Topic: England International Dominic Solanke

[shader]

Would you rate him higher than Rashford?

Rashford has scored 5 goals a year thus far.  Don't think we are setting the bar very high.

[Steady Eddie]

Would you rate him higher than Rashford?

Our boy has won a world cup and finished top scorer..... no contest 

[WhingingMoaningUpstart]

Chelsea to demand over £10m from Liverpool for Dominic Solanke
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-to-demand-over-10m-from-liverpool-for-dominic-solanke-a3564481.html

"Chelsea were originally expected to ask for around £8m, but Standard Sport understands that Solanke's role at the Under-20 World Cup will be added to their case and increase the sum to £10m plus."

[clinical]

Chelsea to demand over £10m from Liverpool for Dominic Solanke
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-to-demand-over-10m-from-liverpool-for-dominic-solanke-a3564481.html

"Chelsea were originally expected to ask for around £8m, but Standard Sport understands that Solanke's role at the Under-20 World Cup will be added to their case and increase the sum to £10m plus."

Yeah Burnley wanted £12m for Ings. Didn't get it did they.

[Scottymuser]

Burnley also had a better case given that he had played well over 100 games for the club, and was 22 and therefore able to basically slot into the team straight away, whereas Solanke hasn't played a single game, and is only 19 so won't be able to play immediately probably

I think the fee should be around £4-5m mark, as they shouldn't look at the U20 WC at all really

[clinical]

Burnley also had a better case given that he had played well over 100 games for the club, and was 22 and therefore able to basically slot into the team straight away, whereas Solanke hasn't played a single game, and is only 19 so won't be able to play immediately probably

I think the fee should be around £4-5m mark, as they shouldn't look at the U20 WC at all really

Unfortunately they can as before July 1st as we haven't technically signed him yet. It will 100% be included. But for them to want £10m is a joke, they won't get anywhere near that. Should be no more than £4m. 

[Petadroli]

They won't get more than what we paid for Ings.

[Scottymuser]

Unfortunately they can as before July 1st as we haven't technically signed him yet. It will 100% be included. But for them to want £10m is a joke, they won't get anywhere near that. Should be no more than £4m.

Ok that's a pity - I was hoping as it was an irrelevant competition for playing for Liverpool, they wouldn't look at it instead of the premier league (or lack of games)

[HeartAndSoul]

Chelsea wanting over £10mil for a player the haven't used since the turn of the year even in their youth teams

They'll be lucky to get £5 million

[Samie]

Our boy has won a world cup and finished top scorer..... no contest 

Won Player of the Tournament mate. One off being joint top goalscorer. 

[Samie]

Chelsea to demand over £10m from Liverpool for Dominic Solanke
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-to-demand-over-10m-from-liverpool-for-dominic-solanke-a3564481.html

"Chelsea were originally expected to ask for around £8m, but Standard Sport understands that Solanke's role at the Under-20 World Cup will be added to their case and increase the sum to £10m plus."

You again miss the point of Ings being a regular for Burnley and him going for 8 mill. Why the fuck would we pay more than that for a 19 year old who played what 2 games for the Plastics? They can demand whatever thy want.

[Chalky Boots]

Chelsea to demand over £10m from Liverpool for Dominic Solanke
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/chelsea-to-demand-over-10m-from-liverpool-for-dominic-solanke-a3564481.html

"Chelsea were originally expected to ask for around £8m, but Standard Sport understands that Solanke's role at the Under-20 World Cup will be added to their case and increase the sum to £10m plus."

Good luck with that. They'll immediately be asked why the didn't give him ANY minutes over the past year if they rate him that highly.
Burnley were within their right to ask what they did because of his market value, goals scored and games played but it's the complete opposite with this one.

Just to further the case Chelsea paid 3.5m (potentially rising to 8.5) in a tribunal in 2010 for Sturridge who'd already played a number of senior games for City.

They'll get something similar to that I'd think.

[WhingingMoaningUpstart]

You again miss the point of Ings being a regular for Burnley and him going for 8 mill. Why the fuck would we pay more than that for a 19 year old who played what 2 games for the Plastics? They can demand whatever thy want.

Again?

[Pie Eyed]

to be honest, I would say that he's worth £10m anyway (probably worth more in today's inflated market), but considering that they have ignored him and kept him firmly on the sidelines, I'll be disappointed if the fee is more than £5m.

Fuck 'em though - We've got what looks to be a cracking player for a small fee (relatively), whether it's £3m, £5m or even £10m

[Grobbelrevell]

Every time I've seen Woodburn play it's been on the left or in midfield, I don't see how this affects him.

Yeah, I think he could end up being an understudy for Coutinho/Lallana in their current deeper roles. I don't expect Solanke to affect him much, if at all.

[Scottymuser]

to be honest, I would say that he's worth £10m anyway (probably worth more in today's inflated market), but considering that they have ignored him and kept him firmly on the sidelines, I'll be disappointed if the fee is more than £5m.

Fuck 'em though - We've got what looks to be a cracking player for a small fee (relatively), whether it's £3m, £5m or even £10m

He might be worth that, but that is not the point of the tribunal - the tribunal is not asked how much they think the player is worth, they are asked to evaluate what is a far amount to pay the club who are losing for the money spent on training and developing the player through both the academy, and by playing him in the youth and full teams.  In this case, it is very simple for liverpool to argue that chelsea have spent fairly little, considering he was sent out on loan one year, nad other than that, has played 0 mins in the PL and only 1 appearance (off the bench) in a league cup for chelsea proper, shows they haven't spent above and beyond a standard amount on the academy side

[Medellin]

First & foremost £8-10m is fuck all these days.
What i don't get is why his fee should be increased because of his potential.
He has left cfc..done,gone.
Wasn't the fee all about the price paid for his development?

Realistically the fee should be similar to what we got for Jerome Sinclair.

[Koprich]

Chelsea want more money now that he did well in the WC.

I sold some shares a month ago that have doubled in value since. I want the buyer to make up the difference.

Tough shit for both of us because the deal was done before than information became available and that's life.

[WhingingMoaningUpstart]

First & foremost £8-10m is fuck all these days.
What i don't get is why his fee should be increased because of his potential.
He has left cfc..done,gone.
Wasn't the fee all about the price paid for his development?

Realistically the fee should be similar to what we got for Jerome Sinclair.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jul/10/transfer-tribunal-danny-ings-liverpool-burnley

To give a fairly recent example, Luke Garbutt cost Everton £600,000 when he joined from Leeds United in 2009. That figure was set by tribunal and paid to the Yorkshire club immediately, though the tribunal also stipulated an extra payment of £750,000, paid in increments of £150,000 each time the player passed the landmarks of five, 10, 20, 30 and 40 first-team appearances.

There is also a payment of £200,000 due should the left-back win a senior England cap. After spending time in Everton’s youth teams and going out to Colchester on loan, Garbutt is now finally making his mark in the first team, so Leeds are likely to be picking up money all through this season.

Garbutt has also been called up by England Under-21s, so if his first-team career continues as promisingly as it has started Leeds could end up with over £1.5m for a player who left more than five years ago as a 16-year-old. Everton would then have a decision to make between their two left-backs, both of whom appear to be international class, and would most likely end up selling one or the other. But all that is in the future, which could not be viewed with the same degree of certainty in 2009, though the tribunal at the time appeared to have most of the angles covered.

[Medellin]

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Another bollocks rule for me,you can accept a development fee even tho that too is bollocks.
He has no contract,no ties to them..one of those you just gotta suck up coz the FA or Fifa say so.
What was that fella called again..jean marc..

[Kap-tin-Kool-Aid Solja of JoMo's]

Where does this leave Woodburn?

On the fire.

[Bend It Like Aurelio]

First & foremost £8-10m is fuck all these days.
What i don't get is why his fee should be increased because of his potential.
He has left cfc..done,gone.
Wasn't the fee all about the price paid for his development?

Realistically the fee should be similar to what we got for Jerome Sinclair.

I think most fees regarding these types of tribunals are all based on pay as you go, which I find fair to be honest. It's to protect the smaller clubs from having their young players tapped up and then signed for no compensation, which has happened quite often in the past.

If Solanke works out, then we pay more. But I find that utterly reasonable.

[Marty McFly]

Think my post quoting The Times was deleted?

Did a quick google and realised they are owned by News Corp who also own the "Sc*m"

Apologies if that was the reason, didn't mean to offend

[John C]

Think my post quoting The Times was deleted?

It was probably deleted because it's behind a paywall.

[Marty McFly]

It was probably deleted because it's behind a paywall.

Ah I see. I only posted the bit that they let you see for free though

Basically saying that Winter feels that Solanke's transfer to Liverpool is the most significant of all UK transfers to date this window with some decent rationale.

Anyway it's NewsCorp so sod 'em anyway

[Groundskeeper Willie]

Been a while since we had a tall, skinny player so I am glad Solanke has joined.

[markedasred]

Chelsea, a glorified puppy farm. We will steal him for less than £6m and every time he scores they will fume. The club will offer to pay them with a payment card, so they can say "do you accept plastic?"

[SwissV]

My bet is they know they are going to get fuck all for him so jacked up what they want to receive for him. Hoping that the tribunal may try and meet in the middle of both parties valuations.

[RedForeverTT]

Been a while since we had a tall, skinny player so I am glad Solanke has joined.

What? Matip doesn't qualify?

Will I jinxed it by saying that Anthony Le Tallec won the golden ball too?

[BarryCrocker]

Just ask Chelsea how much they want, and then tell them we'll deduct it from the £50m fee when sell him back to them for in 3 years time. 

[sms1986]

Just ask Chelsea how much they want, and then tell them we'll deduct it from the £50m fee when sell him back to them for in 3 years time. 

Why would we sell him back in three years time?

[rickardinho1]

Might have been posted already but this is a good piece on Solanke. Reckon he might surprise a few people, if not next season then maybe in 2018-19.

https://tomkinstimes.com/2017/05/liverpool-fans-dont-be-so-wanky-about-solanke/

[idontknow]

Might have been posted already but this is a good piece on Solanke. Reckon he might surprise a few people, if not next season then maybe in 2018-19.

https://tomkinstimes.com/2017/05/liverpool-fans-dont-be-so-wanky-about-solanke/

That is a great read. Cheers for sharing it.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

Does anyone know if he'll be linking up with the rest of the squad at the start of pre-season, or will he be given an extra break?

[fiveways]

Might have been posted already but this is a good piece on Solanke. Reckon he might surprise a few people, if not next season then maybe in 2018-19.

https://tomkinstimes.com/2017/05/liverpool-fans-dont-be-so-wanky-about-solanke/

those stats are pretty impressive - encouraging indeed

[Klippity Klopp]

As talented as he is, he might struggle to get action.

Without a new striker arriving, Firmino appears number 1.

So even to get games in the League Cup XI, he has to battle with Sturridge, Origi & possibly Ings if he is ready.

Our young players will only regress in the U23 league.  They need loans or first team action to progress.  Not one or two games, regular action.

Glad he is here, but not sure where he fits in really. 

[Tobelius]

I'm sure Solanke won't be expecting to walk into our matchday squad,but by training hard and impressing Kloppo and the other coaches in training he will be given chances i would think.

Going by my limited viewing of him in action he looks a real talent,at least on level with Origi and better than Ings (harsh maybe but that's my opinion).

[JD.]

I'm sure Solanke won't be expecting to walk into our matchday squad,but by training hard and impressing Kloppo and the other coaches in training he will be given chances i would think.

Going by my limited viewing of him in action he looks a real talent,at least on level with Origi and better than Ings (harsh maybe but that's my opinion).

Not sure how he is AT LEAST on Origi's level. Divock was scoring at a world cup when he was Solanke's age. He also has had back to back double figures seasons for us since he joined us.

[Tobelius]

I should have said similar level of a talent with Origi maybe not to sound too hyperbolic about Solanke.

Ings and Origi are good players obviously,Danny's reading of the game and off the ball movement is pretty good,he makes the "right" moves so to speak and he works hard,trouble is he usually can't lose his marker with a burst of pace or power so he can't make space for himself to be able to finish very often.

Divock on the other hand has the physical attributes Ings is missing but when i watch him he's very on/off with his reading of his teammates movements on the pitch and knowing when to make runs and using his pace and strength. He is promising but needs to improve yet to be truly first class.

Solanke at 19 has the raw materials to be very good under our coaches guidance,i watched the U-20s and he showed very good anticipation of where to move and where to be at the end of plays at times,and has (only youth level admittedly) the physicality to get there in time and stay there despite challenges. Finishes well too.

[Samie]

The lad moved from the plastics to us because he couldn't get into the match day squad, never mind getting a game or two. No way we haven't promised him being  in there.