Author Topic: The Grand Tour - Clarkson, Hammond and May (Read 26504 times)

CraigDS · « **Reply #40 on:** November 21, 2016, 06:34:32 pm »

Quote from: Kidder. on November 21, 2016, 06:06:39 pm

Too early to tell - the BBC will have to stump up some cash to get Top Gear up to the production level that this new show has.

Thing is, the BBC had a lot of domestic deals going on and even though this is Amazon, the BBC still hold the brand and foundations, so have the upper hand. Fairly sure they'll now pay top wedge for a new set of hosts and focus on UK whilst Clarkson and his posse chase the international market.

It may seem a simplistic view on it, but the new show is trying to appeal to fans of the original, as well as a new audience.

I thought the three of them looked like they'd aged a good five or so years... Clarkson looks like he's been smoking scag in Malaysia for a year, James May is gray and Hammond looks exactly the same... Which means that he's also badly aged five years himself.

Why would BBC throw money at it and then focus on the UK market? Surely the money comes in from the international side of things, which means if they are going to throw more money at it then will no doubt want this money to come flowing in.

Skidder. · « **Reply #41 on:** November 21, 2016, 07:55:16 pm »

Quote from: CraigDS on November 21, 2016, 06:34:32 pm

Why would BBC throw money at it and then focus on the UK market? Surely the money comes in from the international side of things, which means if they are going to throw more money at it then will no doubt want this money to come flowing in.

Because if the last series is anything to go by, Amazon won't have to do much to nib the zealots and get a new audience. I personally think GT is a bit weak and hammy, but so was Top Gear.

But if the 'reviewers' are to be believed (and Twitter), GT is getting better reviews already. The last Top Gear was a mess to be fair - Chris Evans went at it all wrong and Matt LeBlanc, whilst funny, looks as if he is just playing a part in a film (Which he kind of is).

We'll have to see what they do for the next series of Top Gear, but it is clear that a DJ and an Actor won't cut it.

Something Worse · « **Reply #42 on:** November 21, 2016, 09:42:31 pm »

Quote from: Kidder. on November 21, 2016, 06:32:51 pm

Who?

Top Gear and Grand Tour.

CraigDS · « **Reply #43 on:** November 21, 2016, 11:30:24 pm »

Quote from: Kidder. on November 21, 2016, 07:55:16 pm

Because if the last series is anything to go by, Amazon won't have to do much to nib the zealots and get a new audience. I personally think GT is a bit weak and hammy, but so was Top Gear.

Most viewers won't view it as a one or the other though, especially as they'll not have to pay for Top Gear.

Just not sure why they'd throw more money at TG and aim it at a 8-10m audience when the international audience was said to be what, 500m or something silly like that?

cloggypop · « **Reply #44 on:** November 23, 2016, 08:52:33 am »

Big Top Gear

CrasherKid79 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 23, 2016, 08:52:25 pm »

Don't know how anyone can stand watching Clarkson the prick. The only thing I could watch involving him would be a televised fight to the death with fellow Tory prick Piers Moron.

[new username under construction] · « **Reply #46 on:** November 25, 2016, 04:02:40 pm »

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/11/the-grand-tour-episode-2-is-terrible-clarkson-may-and-hammond-challenge-our-incredulity-in-jordan/

JLStretton · « **Reply #47 on:** November 26, 2016, 02:05:04 am »

episode 2 started off awesome with the vulcan the less said about the other bit the better!

Sir Psycho Sexy · « **Reply #48 on:** November 26, 2016, 04:56:57 am »

thought it was great to be honest, though, i had a few drinks in me when i watched it

Quote from: CrasherKid79 on November 23, 2016, 08:52:25 pm

Don't know how anyone can stand watching Clarkson the prick. The only thing I could watch involving him would be a televised fight to the death with fellow Tory prick Piers Moron.

Clarkson may be a knob, but it's mainly the chemistry between the 3 that makes the show

JLStretton · « **Reply #49 on:** November 26, 2016, 05:26:39 am »

Quote from: Sir Psycho Sexy on November 26, 2016, 04:56:57 am

Clarkson may be a knob, but it's mainly the chemistry between the 3 that makes the show

I'd give up replying to them who just slate Clarkson it was the same in the old top gear thread.

ChaChaMooMoo · « **Reply #50 on:** November 26, 2016, 11:58:29 am »

Spoiler

There was hardly any "car" in the 2nd spisode.

There was the vulcan. And the S8. And thats it. And that special ops? It was funny at first. Then stopped being funny.

Disappointed to say the least.

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Nitramdorf · « **Reply #51 on:** November 26, 2016, 12:09:51 pm »

Quote from: ChaChaMooMoo on November 26, 2016, 11:58:29 am

Spoiler

There was hardly any "car" in the 2nd spisode.

There was the vulcan. And the S8. And thats it. And that special ops? It was funny at first. Then stopped being funny.

Disappointed to say the least.

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Totally agree. I kind of pottered off to do something on my pc at one point, just had it on in the background. Something is missing, not sure what.

CrasherKid79 · « **Reply #52 on:** November 26, 2016, 12:24:57 pm »

Quote from: JLStretton on November 26, 2016, 05:26:39 am

I'd give up replying to them who just slate Clarkson it was the same in the old top gear thread.

Ok Jeremy

Something Worse · « **Reply #53 on:** November 26, 2016, 11:26:06 pm »

Quote from: ChaChaMooMoo on November 26, 2016, 11:58:29 am

Spoiler

There was hardly any "car" in the 2nd spisode.

There was the vulcan. And the S8. And thats it. And that special ops? It was funny at first. Then stopped being funny.

Disappointed to say the least.

[close]

My guess is the second half was someone coming up with the idea, everyone deciding it was fun, and going ahead with it even though it had nothing to do with cars. Aside from the premise being unfunny and tiring, it did look like those guys had a great time.

Must be nice messing around with special forces for a day on someone else's dime.

Ziltoid · « **Reply #54 on:** November 27, 2016, 10:04:03 am »

Quote from: Claus on November 26, 2016, 11:26:06 pm

My guess is the second half was someone coming up with the idea, everyone deciding it was fun, and going ahead with it even though it had nothing to do with cars. Aside from the premise being unfunny and tiring, it did look like those guys had a great time.

Must be nice messing around with special forces for a day on someone else's dime.

But not the bbc licence fee payer now? Just the Amazon taxes that they havent paid?

Something Worse · « **Reply #55 on:** November 27, 2016, 03:42:35 pm »

Quote from: Ziltoid on November 27, 2016, 10:04:03 am

But not the bbc licence fee payer now? Just the Amazon taxes that they havent paid?

See, everyone's happy.

Beav · « **Reply #56 on:** November 27, 2016, 05:14:46 pm »

Really didnt think much of the second episode. The Vulcan bit was great, but everything else felt overly forced and too scripted, just fell flat for me.

Giovanni · « **Reply #57 on:** November 28, 2016, 12:57:55 pm »

what the fuck was that.

gave up watching 15 minutes in, embarrassing.

Ziltoid · « **Reply #58 on:** November 28, 2016, 02:54:22 pm »

Yep, The Aston was alright; the rest pretty woeful. apart from the bloke who built that racing car from a scale 32 model - but he was ushered off sharpish, they had about 90 seconds with him!

'Mondzz' · « **Reply #59 on:** November 28, 2016, 03:23:15 pm »

Aston part was really good. Thought I'd enjoy the 2nd part but just got cringe worthy after the first repetition.

peachybum · « **Reply #60 on:** November 28, 2016, 09:03:12 pm »

Surely it would've been more enjoyable TV to see how the three got on trying the military exercise for real(or at least presented that way) rather than a scripted comedy sketch.

I don't really understand the approach. People love the three because of their chemistry and because it felt real. The jokes, the arguments, the failures etc. Of course it wasn't real but now it's not even trying to present them that way. Rather than three mates doing a car show it's like three actors playing roles. And it makes pretty naff TV.

Coat Of Arms · « **Reply #61 on:** December 2, 2016, 07:28:45 pm »

Much more like old Top Gear this week, great stuff.

It benefits massively from not having the celebrity bit aswell.

nuts100 · « **Reply #62 on:** December 2, 2016, 08:36:13 pm »

Infinitely better than the pile of shit the BBC produced with evans

Beav · « **Reply #63 on:** December 3, 2016, 09:27:42 am »

Ep 3: Enjoyable, much improved from last week, but still feels a little forced and too obviously scripted. Its like theyre trying to find their feet again after starting up again, which is understandable I guess, the chemistry is obviously as good as ever, they just need to find their groove and not try and force it. Hoping for a good budget car adventure mission in another country style episode soon, the show always felt its best in those.

The celebrity joke has worn thin already, but I can accept it if it gets us out of watching a 15 minute interview segment. No American driving the car bit this week, which was nice.

JLStretton · « **Reply #64 on:** December 4, 2016, 02:18:47 am »

Loads better this week, that Rolls is a thing of beauty.

Rob K · « **Reply #65 on:** December 4, 2016, 08:23:07 am »

Hammond's right, the Juke is shite.

drmick · « **Reply #66 on:** December 4, 2016, 10:37:56 pm »

Quote from: Beav on December 3, 2016, 09:27:42 am

Ep 3: Enjoyable, much improved from last week, but still feels a little forced and too obviously scripted. Its like theyre trying to find their feet again after starting up again, which is understandable I guess, the chemistry is obviously as good as ever, they just need to find their groove and not try and force it. Hoping for a good budget car adventure mission in another country style episode soon, the show always felt its best in those.

The celebrity joke has worn thin already, but I can accept it if it gets us out of watching a 15 minute interview segment. No American driving the car bit this week, which was nice.

So far, I like the fact that it is more of the same, but in each given week the format will change a bit, so it is not the same formula every week. Ep3 is the closest they have got to a Arctic/Botswana style special.

JLStretton · « **Reply #67 on:** December 10, 2016, 06:08:21 am »

Episode 4 was good, classic in parts bit meh in others.

RobinHood · « **Reply #68 on:** December 13, 2016, 01:53:31 pm »

It hasn't really blown me away yet to be honest, it's still rougher round the edges than I was expecting. For me the 'celebrity brain crash' thing just isn't working, the joke is already so old. The first one was good though, as I wasn't expecting it, I think they should have left it there.

I'm also not a fan of the way Clarkson is presented as a stand-up comedian, like a Michael McIntyre segment. I think its always at it's worst when there's so much scripted humour, they're presenters, not actors or comedians. That special forces bit was awful.

Saying that though if you liked Top gear you'll probably like this, I personally preferred it to the Evans Top Gear, which I didn't really enjoy at all.

Nitramdorf · « **Reply #69 on:** December 16, 2016, 06:07:51 pm »

Seems like just some tv show now, last two I've just had on in the background. Think it's needs something to focus on like the old track or special guests. Think I'd prefer just watching a big Christmas special instead of a lot of filler.

Oscarmac · « **Reply #70 on:** December 16, 2016, 07:24:08 pm »

Anyone have a link for episode 4? Thanks.

MBL? · « **Reply #71 on:** December 18, 2016, 01:42:41 am »

This Dutch one is painful.

cloggypop · « **Reply #72 on:** December 18, 2016, 01:47:21 am »

Yeah this last one is shite. Tired as fuck. I don't recognise the version of the Netherlands they are talking about at all.

Also, someone needs to tell Jeremy that it's time to shave his head.

JLStretton · « **Reply #73 on:** December 19, 2016, 07:23:50 pm »

5th was good apart from the shit battleship bit, all 3 cars were shite tho to be honest would of been better if they picked their fav 2 door soft top or something.

Kop307 · « **Reply #74 on:** December 20, 2016, 10:39:04 pm »

Overall it's relatively entertaining. It's much better than the post Clarkson Top Gear on BBC but The Grand Tour ins't a patch on the BBC Top Gear with Clarkson. But it took years, possibly decades to get the BBC Top Gear to where it ended.

TGT feels overly forced, scripted, wooden. The actual scenes in the cars are great, and the things they get upto, but in the stuido it's cringey. I personally found it borderline unwatchable and skipped most of the chat. They're ultimately not actors and it shows.

I'm well aware that the BBC Top Gear with Clarkson was scripted but it was genuinely funny at times, and didn't seem acted. In TGT it's like they're trying to be a comedy act, a show about them 3, with some car stuff added. It should be the opposite way around.

It's the first series, I expect more, and I expect it to get better.

Trada · « **Reply #75 on:** December 20, 2016, 11:42:19 pm »

Just started to watch the first episode already winding me up they are so up themselves.

Brexsit Britain for morons.

Lets do another fired joke hahaha so funny c*nts.

Turned the shit off don't give a fuck what happens in future ones.

Even more unbearable in this.

So fucking fake made for the feeble mined and Trump fans.

I'm sure he thinks it the bestest program in the world.

HaHaHa jokes about speeding...... total twats.

Something Worse · « **Reply #76 on:** December 20, 2016, 11:47:40 pm »

Quote from: Trada on December 20, 2016, 11:42:19 pm

Just started to watch the first episode already winding me up they are so up themselves.

Brexsit Britain for morons.

Lets do another fired joke hahaha so funny c*nts.

Turned the shit off don't give a fuck what happens in future ones.

Even more unbearable in this.

JLStretton · « **Reply #77 on:** December 25, 2016, 04:49:06 pm »

The segment about Le mans ferrari p3 vs ford gt40 that May did in the 6th was great.

Beav · « **Reply #78 on:** December 26, 2016, 10:47:44 am »

Quote from: JLStretton on December 25, 2016, 04:49:06 pm

The segment about Le mans ferrari p3 vs ford gt40 that May did in the 6th was great.

Best bit of the entire season, absolutely excellent.

gazzalfc · « **Reply #79 on:** December 27, 2016, 12:09:10 am »

The ice cream comment was a bit beyond the line. Even for them