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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2015, 04:29:02 pm »
Where is he now does anyone know? Arrested?
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2015, 04:38:57 pm »
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2015, 04:40:44 pm »
An interesting article from Conservation Magazine on the ethics of legalised hunting.
http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

It certainly doesn't apply to Cecil, but might to the rhino hunt pictured.

I absolutely don't get the urge to shoot a wild animal though.
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2015, 04:44:27 pm »
I don't get calling him a cold-blooded killer either. Plenty of kiddies press X or whatever on their x-boxes too. He's just a coward. He doesn't get dirty, sure you get a 'sense' of danger in that jeep and all, but it's pathetic. The c*nt should be thrown into a hungry lion's den butt naked and tape the ensuing fair 'fight'. Display that shit on your mantelpiece.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2015, 04:46:36 pm »
He's the one that should of been skinned.


Given the chance - I'd tie the c*nt down in his chair in his surgery, get a rusty pen knife and slowly skin the horrific little fucker while he was awake unitl he was bare of skin. Then put his skin on and wear it like a trophy(RAWK circa 20010). Then pull his come-coloured teeth out, one by one with a set of stiff pliers, then sow them all together with dental floss and wear them as a chain around me kneck, whilst I danced around his surgey, with me bollocks swinging out of his skin, with Tight Fits 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' roaring out and me singing  - Heres my bollocks, my mighty bollocks, my bollocks swing tonight, see my bollocks, those mighty bollocks, those bollocks swing tonight, Awum wa hay! Awum wa hay! Awum wa hay! Awum wa hay! Awum wa hay!......






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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #45 on: July 29, 2015, 05:39:23 pm »
The one thing that may come out of this the piblic backlash may change things. its not just him.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #46 on: July 29, 2015, 05:50:27 pm »
An interesting article from Conservation Magazine on the ethics of legalised hunting.
http://conservationmagazine.org/2014/01/can-trophy-hunting-reconciled-conservation/

It certainly doesn't apply to Cecil, but might to the rhino hunt pictured.

I absolutely don't get the urge to shoot a wild animal though.

Interesting article.

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In a 2011 letter to Science magazine, Leader-Williams also pointed out that the implementation of controlled, legalized hunting was also beneficial for Zimbabwe’s elephants. “Implementing trophy hunting has doubled the area of the country under wildlife management relative to the 13% in state protected areas,” thanks to the inclusion of private lands, he says. “As a result, the area of suitable land available to elephants and other wildlife has increased, reversing the problem of habitat loss and helping to maintain a sustained population increase in Zimbabwe’s already large elephant population.” It is important to note, however, that the removal of mature elephant males can have other, detrimental consequences on the psychological development of younger males. And rhinos and elephants are very different animals, with different needs and behaviors.

Still, the elephants of Zimbabwe and the white rhinos of South Africa seem to suggest that it is possible for conservation and trophy hunting to coexist, at least in principle. It is indeed a tricky, but not impossible, balance to strike.

Puts things into perspective. Still don't understand the urge to kill animals for fun, but if it's to be done it's better to have people paying stupid money that helps conservation than illegal poachers.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #47 on: July 29, 2015, 05:52:05 pm »
Trouble is, you still get both don't you?

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2015, 06:37:21 pm »
Separately, court records have shown that the dentist has a felony record in the US after killing a black bear in the state of Wisconsin in 2006.

He was given a one-year probation and fined $3,000 (£1,900), having shot the animal outside an authorised zone and then trying to pass it off as having been killed elsewhere.

Records from the Minnesota Board of Dentistry also show that Mr Palmer was the subject of a sexual harassment complaint which was settled in 2006.

A receptionist alleged that he had made indecent comments to her. Mr Palmer admitted no wrongdoing and agreed to pay out more than $127,000 (£81,000).

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Kill a black bear? $3,000 fine.
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2015, 06:45:13 pm »
Interesting article.

Puts things into perspective. Still don't understand the urge to kill animals for fun, but if it's to be done it's better to have people paying stupid money that helps conservation than illegal poachers.


Someone on another site I frequent was spouting off about how if it wasn't for trophy hunters then these animals would have all been poached for Chinese medicine and there would no lions, elephants or rhino left.
There was another article rubbishing the notion that trophy hunting has any positive impact of endangered wildlife.

I mean what do most people know? We have to rely on what we're told and one side are saying it's terrible and immoral and has no benefit to animal numbers in the wild and others who are pro  hunting say that they are conservationists who are saving these animals by paying to kill them because if there's a price on these animals heads then they're worth protecting.

Fuck knows....but I'm sorry - whatever propaganda people want to use, paying a shitload of money to travel around the world slaughtering wild animals and chopping their heads off and sticking them on your wall is absolutely and without a doubt fucked up.

I know it's an extreme example but it's like Lord so and so who likes fucking kids in children's homes, so he pays the home say £50k to go and do just that...I mean the home gets funded, most of the kids are fine and they're well fed and the home can continue long into the future so it's win-win right, only one kid?

There is no justification for what this dentist fucking scum prick did, none.
No amount of mental gymnastics and propaganda and BS will make what he did ok.

Grrrrrr

How and why are people still allowed to do this, legally, in the 21st century, to at risk and endangered animals ?

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #50 on: July 29, 2015, 06:48:58 pm »
Trouble is, you still get both don't you?
Yes, as the article makes clear. Obviously non-hunting tourism is a much better way of raising money for conservation and fighting poaching. Luring a major tourist attraction out of its protected environment should certainly therefore be an aggravating factor as it undermines the basis of conservation efforts that enable controlled hunting in the first place.
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #51 on: July 29, 2015, 06:59:45 pm »
Interesting article on the Guardian, although it seems to be quoting the same sources as the article above

Trophy hunting just part of the story behind declining lion numbers in Africa

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #52 on: July 29, 2015, 07:05:00 pm »
Good comment on another site from someone



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This argument is all nuance. It is designed to put trophy hunting in a better light but escapes the TRUE facts regarding the economic value. Let me put this in perspective for you. The University of Port Elizabeth estimates eco-tourism is 15X more lucrative than trophy hunting. In other words, Cecil was worth $819,195 alive vs $54,000 dead.  What a ridiculous attempt to justify killing endangered species to compensate for erectile dysfunctional incompetents.

Second - Culling older males

Another poor attempt to articulate. Let me separate the myth from the facts for you. Culling older males disrupts the family hierarchy and creates  disorder among the younger males.  They will begin fighting and competing for females where needless death of breeding males occurs. It devastates the social order of things when you kill the ruling male. It's not natural selection when that happens.

And finally,

Bow and arrow was used in this instance, not very effective at all. 40 hours of stalking thereafter. Poor animal. Trophy hunting should be banned and eco friendly tourism is the answer for animal conservation. Like the other member said, peddle your crap elsewhere.   
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #53 on: July 29, 2015, 07:21:19 pm »
What's the point? What's he going to do with a fucking rhino and lions head besides have a wank to them? Bellend. I hope the next thing he tries to kill bites his cock off.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #54 on: July 29, 2015, 07:38:04 pm »
What a disgusting specimen.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #55 on: July 29, 2015, 07:59:03 pm »
If anyone is interested, these are the people who set up the hunt. THEO BRONKHORST and the concession owner HONEST NDLOVU


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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #56 on: July 29, 2015, 08:00:09 pm »
concession owner HONEST NDLOVU

That aspirational naming didn't seem to go too well then...
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #57 on: July 29, 2015, 08:04:02 pm »
He's the one that should of been skinned.


Given the chance - I'd tie the c*nt down in his chair in his surgery, get a rusty pen knife and slowly skin the horrific little fucker while he was awake unitl he was bare of skin. Then put his skin on and wear it like a trophy(RAWK circa 20010). Then pull his come-coloured teeth out, one by one with a set of stiff pliers, then sow them all together with dental floss and wear them as a chain around me kneck, whilst I danced around his surgey, with me bollocks swinging out of his skin, with Tight Fits 'The Lion Sleeps Tonight' roaring out and me singing  - Heres my bollocks, my mighty bollocks, my bollocks swing tonight, see my bollocks, those mighty bollocks, those bollocks swing tonight, Awum wa hay! Awum wa hay! Awum wa hay! Awum wa hay! Awum wa hay!......






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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #58 on: July 29, 2015, 08:16:23 pm »
Fucking horrible c*nt.

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« Reply #59 on: July 29, 2015, 08:32:16 pm »
I see the Ronson effect is in full swing.
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« Reply #60 on: July 29, 2015, 08:41:49 pm »
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #61 on: July 29, 2015, 09:14:51 pm »
Its gone too far now

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #62 on: July 29, 2015, 10:59:38 pm »
The Zimbawean government should start giving hunting licences to kill poachers rather than endangered animals. It would give these sick fuckers the chance to hunt the 'ultimate hunter'- each other, cull their numbers rather than animals that are struggling to survive due to shrinking habitats and farmers protecting their animals.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #63 on: July 29, 2015, 11:03:13 pm »
Why would you call a fucking lion Cecil?
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #64 on: July 29, 2015, 11:04:13 pm »
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« Reply #65 on: July 29, 2015, 11:32:29 pm »
Despicable act, but I can't help feel the worldwide witchhunt is too much.

He should be dealt with by whatever laws are in place. He ought to be fucking ashamed and I think you have to be a bit sick in the head to want to do this. It's undeniably cruel. But what do people want to happen? Him to lose everything he's got? Kill himself? It just doesn't quite sit right with me. Would we have so much of an outcry for any other animal that's shot dead? Surely if there's a market for it where you can actually pay to go and kill a lion, this bloke can't be the only one?

Again I wouldn't defend him, I can't even kill a spider if I see one in the house. But at the same time, it's a wider issue that needs solving in other ways than hounding one man out of his job and into a lifetime of misery.

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« Reply #66 on: July 29, 2015, 11:57:19 pm »
Despicable act, but I can't help feel the worldwide witchhunt is too much.

He should be dealt with by whatever laws are in place. He ought to be fucking ashamed and I think you have to be a bit sick in the head to want to do this. It's undeniably cruel. But what do people want to happen? Him to lose everything he's got? Kill himself? It just doesn't quite sit right with me. Would we have so much of an outcry for any other animal that's shot dead? Surely if there's a market for it where you can actually pay to go and kill a lion, this bloke can't be the only one?

Again I wouldn't defend him, I can't even kill a spider if I see one in the house. But at the same time, it's a wider issue that needs solving in other ways than hounding one man out of his job and into a lifetime of misery.

I get what you're saying. As Mouth said the Ronson effect is in full swing. But this man is a c*nt. Baiting a lion outside of a protected sanctuary with a dead carcass setting up a nightime trap so he can shot him with a bow. Injuring him so he can track him for the better part of 2 days than finally finishing him off. Fuck him. 

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #67 on: July 30, 2015, 12:44:34 am »
I think the reason why this is so big is it was in the headlines because the lion was famous in Zimbabwe. So it caught the eyes of many. And to a lot of people, the concept really is baffling and they would feel some type of way if they get told about it. Like many in this thread. When people are angry, they do and say stuff.

There have been other American trophy hunters in the social media spotlight in the last few years, so it's not entirely out of the blue.

I don't like internet witch-hunts, but if you do something that ends up in the news that a lot of people find deplorable, you're going to have people saying nasty stuff about you.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #68 on: July 30, 2015, 01:03:21 am »
to be honest hunting any animal for fun is sick and I hope those that do it get cancer. sick? Yes but even sicker to think hunting animals is just a bit of fun.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #69 on: July 30, 2015, 03:33:58 am »
Despicable act, but I can't help feel the worldwide witchhunt is too much.

He should be dealt with by whatever laws are in place. He ought to be fucking ashamed and I think you have to be a bit sick in the head to want to do this. It's undeniably cruel. But what do people want to happen? Him to lose everything he's got? Kill himself? It just doesn't quite sit right with me. Would we have so much of an outcry for any other animal that's shot dead? Surely if there's a market for it where you can actually pay to go and kill a lion, this bloke can't be the only one?

Again I wouldn't defend him, I can't even kill a spider if I see one in the house. But at the same time, it's a wider issue that needs solving in other ways than hounding one man out of his job and into a lifetime of misery.

I would normally agree with you but sometimes the world needs someone like him to take their anger out on and show that this isn't a one-off. He represents the true atrocities of a system that is still in place. People can now put a name to a face i.e. his face and start protesting against poaching in a more serious way.

Hopefully, we will now see some much stricter measures put in place to help protect these animals against criminals like him.
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #70 on: July 30, 2015, 05:00:49 am »
The one thing that may come out of this the piblic backlash may change things. its not just him.



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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #71 on: July 30, 2015, 08:37:46 am »
Never knew that you could actually legally kill animals like lions. Just a different mindset as I cannot imagine why anyone would want to hunt animals like that.

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« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2015, 08:42:25 am »
As the world mourned Cecil the lion, five of Kenya’s endangered elephants were slain


"While the killing of the lion in Zimbabwe has attracted the world’s attention, the death of the five elephants has received almost no coverage, even though elephants are under a far greater threat from poachers than lions. Their tusks can be sold in Asia for more than $1,000 per pound."

Seems to be a daily thing unfortunately. Humans won't be happy until all big game animals are gone.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2015, 09:01:42 am »
Fucking backwards market in Asia that buys that shit up.

Kill all poachers.

Jail all those buying poached products.

There aren't enough resources in the world, why the fuck are we wasting oxygen on these c*nts.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #74 on: July 30, 2015, 09:12:46 am »
I see the Ronson effect is in full swing.

No it's not. It's not the same thing, he said so himself on the Twitters.

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #75 on: July 30, 2015, 09:15:50 am »




OOOH look at the hard man with his shirt off, showing off his kill!

This motherfucker. He's not got his pants off, does he? I wonder how he'd feel if the whole world saw his inverted penis. Fucking erectile deficient fucking wankstain c*nt of a cretin. Fuck him, fuck the mother that gave birth to him and the small-cocked father that needled his watery sperm into the hole that sheltered him for 9 wasted months, fuck bows and arrows, fuck fucking hunting altogether, fuck off the internet for making me aware of shit like this, fuck off. I can't remember the last time I wanted to punch someone this badly. And fucking dentists. What can you say about them? They are known degenerates. Apologies to any dentists on here, but fuck off.

If anyone is interested, these are the people who set up the hunt. THEO BRONKHORST and the concession owner HONEST NDLOVU


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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #76 on: July 30, 2015, 09:17:44 am »
Just as a side bar for those on facebook who equate the killer of Cecil with those of us who choose to eat meat: get off your high horse and get yourself some bloody perspective.  The bullshit I'm running into is infuriating - it's like only vegetarians are allowed to be angry over this!  :butt
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #77 on: July 30, 2015, 09:21:52 am »
Just as a side bar for those on facebook who equate the killer of Cecil with those of us who choose to eat meat: get off your high horse and get yourself some bloody perspective.  The bullshit I'm running into is infuriating - it's like only vegetarians are allowed to be angry over this!  :butt

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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #78 on: July 30, 2015, 09:22:17 am »
I'm not sure I feel the outrage as many here do, because I can't get past the overwhelming sadness provoked by knowing this magnificent animal took 40 hours to die.

40 hours of agony, terror, and slowly bleeding to death.

I feel ashamed to be human.
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Re: Cecil The Lion killed by US Dentist.
« Reply #79 on: July 30, 2015, 10:12:04 am »
I'm not sure I feel the outrage as many here do, because I can't get past the overwhelming sadness provoked by knowing this magnificent animal took 40 hours to die.

40 hours of agony, terror, and slowly bleeding to death.

I feel ashamed to be human.

Everything about this is just horrific. Hopefully the memory of this great cat will help put an end to this sort of shit.
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