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« Reply #520 on: January 9, 2018, 11:43:17 pm »
Is this worth watching from series 1? I haven't seen any.

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« Reply #521 on: January 9, 2018, 11:55:14 pm »
Yup. Defo.
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« Reply #522 on: January 10, 2018, 12:38:55 am »
Brooker used Karl Pilkintons ideas for Black Museum. No credit given, mind.

Most average season to date for me. Enjoyable but not it's best.


Did he? Or are they just similar? Karl Pilkington’s two minds in one head isn’t original either. All
Of Me had the minds of Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin inhabiting the same body. In Philip K Dick’s UBIK the teenager Jordy invades the mind of Ella Runciter.  There’s a whole list of two minds in one head stories here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SharingABody
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« Reply #523 on: January 10, 2018, 12:54:31 am »
Did he? Or are they just similar? Karl Pilkington’s two minds in one head isn’t original either. All
Of Me had the minds of Steve Martin and Lily Tomlin inhabiting the same body. In Philip K Dick’s UBIK the teenager Jordy invades the mind of Ella Runciter.  There’s a whole list of two minds in one head stories here: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SharingABody

Think that was the part credited as an idea by Penn Gillette in any case.
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« Reply #524 on: January 10, 2018, 12:54:45 pm »
Think that was the part credited as an idea by Penn Gillette in any case.

Pain Addict was the Penn Jillett story. He wrote the story in 1981 after a stay in a Spanish hospital:

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Charlie Brooker used the story and credits Jillett.

If anyone nicked the story it was more likely to be Pilkington and Gervais.

Edit - link to the story as published years before Pilkington:

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And verification in an old thread here that the story was written in the nineties: https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/161422/short-story-about-a-doctor-who-can-hook-up-his-pain-center-to-patients/163045

If the story’s that similar young Karl must be the plagiarist.
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« Reply #525 on: January 10, 2018, 03:09:58 pm »
Far more likely that he just had the idea independently, and it's all a weird coincidence.
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« Reply #526 on: January 11, 2018, 12:42:24 am »
loved Hang the DJ and USS Callister to a slightly lesser extent. Thought Crocodile was the weakest so far

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the horror movie-esque, cliche of her not being able to start her car at that particular moment annoyed me. As did the logic of her killing her ex boyfriend, in order to get him to stop writing an anonymous letter. Not exactly logical. Plus, he should've been able to resist her, she was scrawny.
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I thought the car not starting thing wasn't a coincidence, it was because she'd sabotaged it. There was a scene before that, before she'd been hooked up to the memory machine, where she was in the kitchen trying to figure out what to do. We saw her eyeing up the sharp knives and, not long after that, make the excuse to go to the toilet. I assumed that she had done something to the car with the knife in that time.
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« Reply #527 on: January 11, 2018, 12:59:10 am »
Far more likely that he just had the idea independently, and it's all a weird coincidence.

You're probably right. I was responding to this:
Brooker used Karl Pilkintons ideas for Black Museum. No credit given, mind.

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« Reply #528 on: January 11, 2018, 08:01:00 am »
You're probably right. I was responding to this:

Oh my bad, I missed that one.
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« Reply #529 on: January 12, 2018, 05:08:43 pm »
They're biding their time.

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« Reply #530 on: January 16, 2018, 06:01:58 pm »
Thought Arkangel was the weakest. Crocodile was neatly put together but didn't do much for me.

Hang the DJ and USS Callister were this season's San Junipero and Nosedive, respectively (One bittersweet and ultimately satisfying for the casual spectator, the other smirking, campy and slightly over the top). Enjoyable watches but nothing special.

Really enjoyed Metalhead's simplicity and minimalism, although I can understand some of the criticism. Personally, I like when Black Mirror doesn't explain the world we're in.

Really liked Black Museum's structure, a bit like Tales from the Crypt, almost. The final twist was also well designed.

All in all it was an enjoyable series, although none of these episodes get even close to the best Black Mirror has produced.
Finally gotten around to watching Metalhead and Black Museum and I fully agree with your summary and all the points therein.

Was a bit fucking weird though seeing Veronica Ball in Metalhead ;D

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I agree with some of the previous remarks about Black Museum - at times I felt it was too close to White Christmas but I understand the logic behind borrowing concepts from it, as it creates some kind of 'alternative-world-continuity with the genre.

Was the white woman who died also in Utopia, with a really, really strong Welsh accent by the way?

The simplicity of Metalhead really struck me - and fuckinell it was a bit dark in places eh? I presume Veronica Ball took her own life,
 given one of the dogs' trackers appears to have embedded itsef too close to - or slap bang in - her corotid artery and she knew she was fucked and wouldn't have had enough time anyway to remove all of the trackers before the other dogs arrived.

Also, my dad's a total dick - he chose to watch it with me and almost ruined by passing critical comment like, "Oh that's so unrealistic!"
 or asking dumb-as-fuck questions like, "Why's there a dead body on the bed?!" Shut up and let me watch it eh?! ;)

Overall, I am glad that Black Museum had the chilling element of revenge within it, where the young black girl uses the technology against Rolo. Poetically just, I felt. I also believe these last two episodes saved the series for me - I was feeling a bit deflated after a couple of the previous ones, feeling them to be too tame. But those last two restored my expectations of Brooker's vision and 'dark'ness.

That said, the climax to this series didn't quite hit the spine-tinglingly-creepy levels of 'Hated In The Nation' and I've yet to see an episode of Black Mirror that tops it. I suspect I never will - and that's okay, I'll just keep watching it - and fantasise about Kelly Mc! ;D :wave
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« Reply #531 on: January 17, 2018, 11:03:28 am »
^^A reason why I have stopped watching movies with my dad. He won't stop asking questions or thinking out loud. You think he'd stop after telling him so but nope. He just keeps going. Hahaha.
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« Reply #532 on: January 17, 2018, 12:12:31 pm »
^^A reason why I have stopped watching movies with my dad. He won't stop asking questions or thinking out loud. You think he'd stop after telling him so but nope. He just keeps going. Hahaha.
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« Reply #533 on: January 19, 2018, 11:10:16 am »
Eventually finished this last night.  Thought Hang the DJ was the best of them, followed by USS Callister.
I'm not sure the rest will stay long in the memory, and there's not as much capacity to surprise with these episodes - certainly nothing on the lines of San Junipero, or even White Bear in the 'oh fuck, nooo!' stakes - but they're certainly worth watching.

Lot of callbacks in Black Museum to other episodes - Junipero hospital, BRB (Be Right Back) gas station, the 15 Million Merits comic book.


Was the white woman   also in Utopia, with a really, really strong Welsh accent by the way?


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« Reply #534 on: February 13, 2018, 06:00:59 pm »
They're biding their time.

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« Reply #535 on: March 9, 2018, 02:19:22 pm »
Watched the first 4 episodes of series one. Worth sticking with?
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« Reply #536 on: March 9, 2018, 02:23:40 pm »
Watched the first 4 episodes of series one. Worth sticking with?
There are only three episodes in the first series.

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« Reply #537 on: March 10, 2018, 09:55:27 am »
Watched the first 4 episodes of series one. Worth sticking with?

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« Reply #538 on: March 13, 2018, 11:17:18 pm »
If you don't like the first four episodes, you probably won't like the rest of the series.

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« Reply #540 on: May 15, 2019, 11:15:49 am »
Watched the first 4 episodes of series one. Worth sticking with?
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« Reply #541 on: May 15, 2019, 11:54:33 am »
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« Reply #543 on: May 21, 2019, 11:56:37 pm »
Fairly certain one of Brooker's Screenwipe episodes took the piss out of Miley Cyrus and her dad.

I'd be surprised if this series is better than the previous one if I am honest...
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« Reply #544 on: June 6, 2019, 08:16:43 am »
First one was OK, not as sharp or intense as others.
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« Reply #545 on: June 6, 2019, 09:04:52 am »
I wasn't impressed with any of them really, The kidnap episode was probably the best of a bad bunch.

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« Reply #546 on: June 6, 2019, 12:13:01 pm »
This has turned to shit I'm afraid.

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« Reply #547 on: June 6, 2019, 02:45:44 pm »
Are all three eppies up on Netflix? Will activate a free membership period and watch ;)

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« Reply #548 on: June 6, 2019, 02:56:55 pm »
Are all three eppies up on Netflix? Will activate a free membership period and watch ;)

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« Reply #550 on: June 6, 2019, 11:56:34 pm »
I wasn't impressed with any of them really, The kidnap episode was probably the best of a bad bunch.

The Miley Cyrus episode was poor. The worst of all 5 series.
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« Reply #551 on: June 7, 2019, 12:35:26 am »
Seen the first two so far.

I liked them - interesting ideas with a bit of reality thrown in. Neither really science-fictiony though to be honest. Both really examining the human condition rather than technology I thought.
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« Reply #552 on: June 7, 2019, 08:00:30 am »
Second one was a bit meh as well. Disappointing so far.
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« Reply #553 on: June 7, 2019, 09:55:09 am »
This has been gradually getting worse for the last few series. The odd gem has been in the last few, but generally it's well past its sell by date...

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« Reply #554 on: June 7, 2019, 10:38:12 am »
Whoever told Cyrus she could act needs a good webbing.

It's turned into a piece of shit, battery farmed drool for the masses. While the last series had a few pearlers, by enlarge, Netflix have gone full "Aliens" on it, and it really has lost all of its charm.

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« Reply #555 on: June 7, 2019, 11:29:58 am »
The first one was OK, the second one was better and I've not watched the third (the Cyrus one) as it sounds rubbish.

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« Reply #556 on: June 7, 2019, 01:55:56 pm »
Yeah it's not great, and only 3 episodes long.

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« Reply #557 on: June 7, 2019, 08:34:33 pm »
First one was interesting. Second one was largely meh.

Thought the third one was great though. Really enjoyed it. Science fiction and hints of Philip K. Dick along with hints of 40s science fiction with a modern edge. Then changing it to appeal to a younger audience while the older audience gets the older stories.

Nice.

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« Reply #558 on: June 7, 2019, 09:33:17 pm »
Third one was also meh. None of is was bad TV but I'd place them very much near the bottom, alongside the Waldo one.
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« Reply #559 on: June 8, 2019, 11:32:26 am »
Just seen Episode 3 and here's my thoughts on the series as a whole:

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Episode 1 = the best of the three IMO in an average series. I think this could have gone down as an even better episode if it went down the path of the two guys always having had these hidden sexual feelings for each other and it's only through the gaming platform they can finally express them - instead it went down the route of it being a guilty porn pleasure that's allowed to be explored once a year. It had a kind of San Junipero feel in parts and looked great but the ending just left me feeling a bit meh.

Episode 2 = A very tense episode with a Sopranos style ending which will leave a lot of people frustrated but I like the concept that the most important, almost tragic day in someone's life is glanced at by millions around the world for 10 seconds on a mobile notification and then forgotten about the next day. I think Brooker was trying to highlight how we are quite a morbid species, desperate for a story to click on but also the point of becoming addicted to phones was made which to be honest has been done already in the series I'm sure. I think the episode dragged on a bit but there was some excellent acting and it was enjoyable.

Episode 3 = Thought this was largely shite if I'm honest. It didn't feel like Black Mirror, more like a poor attempt at comedy and not sure what point was being made? The idea of consciousness being streamed into a robotic device has been done to death now as well - felt like it was a pointless episode, maybe would have been ok in a 6 episode series as a filler but when there's only 3 it was disappointing.

Overall I feel like this series came out too soon - Brooker said he basically spent a shit load of time making Bandersnatch (which IMO was also average) so it was either bring these 3 out now or wait a long time for a 6 episode series. I think most people will say he should have waited.

The series is still enjoyable but it used to be darker, more interesting 'what ifs' episodes and when I compare it to say Years and Years which is a similar show looking at a bleak future, I think this is falling behind now.
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"IT'S ENDED.....THE EUROPEAN CUP IS RETURNING TO ENGLAND AND TO ANFIELD."