Topic: Arsenal

[El Lobo]

I’d have expected him to say ‘Yes I did get Liverpool back into the Champions League but that was really Luis Suarez, and we were shite when we got there so just forget it’

[stevensr123]

I’d have expected him to say ‘Yes I did get Liverpool back into the Champions League but that was really Luis Suarez, and we were shite when we got there so just forget it’

Or maybe just not comment on Europe, since his record is shocking. He loves to big himself up though.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

To be fair it’s not like he can say he got his arse handed to him by Basel who were managed by his predecessor at Swansea

[clinical]

"Arsenal are a great club, they have a great manager and they are going through a tough time of course. "

"People will look at it and see that I went to Liverpool, they were struggling for five seasons for Champions League football and I was able to get them back."

"And when I came to Celtic, they hadn't been in the Champions League for two seasons and I got them back."

I see Rodgers has been talking about it, Surprised he mentioned getting us into the champions league, considering how embarrassing our performances where in Europe when he did get back into it.

In terms of arsenal, they are fucked short term, they need a bit of a revamp to their entire defence, goal keeper and probably need a midfielder. The prices being passed around are ridiculous now, so they are gonna have to spend a fortune, which i can't see happening.

They have plenty of money.

[stevensr123]

They have plenty of money.

Plenty of money, but don't want to spend it.
The stories coming out about how they want to reign in all the spending they have done (!), should make alarm bells start ringing. Wenger has always shouldered the blame for it, But what manager in the world doesn't like to spend money and improve a squad?

[SpartanTree. No deccies or lights.]

Why would he be good for England? In European club football he’s successful at group stage but struggles against the best in the knockout stages. Would a Wenger-led England team have the steel and nous to actually win a tournament?

Perfect for England then !

[clinical]

Plenty of money, but don't want to spend it.
The stories coming out about how they want to reign in all the spending they have done (!), should make alarm bells start ringing. Wenger has always shouldered the blame for it, But what manager in the world doesn't like to spend money and improve a squad?

Have a link for that? Funny if true.

[stevensr123]

Have a link for that? Funny if true.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/04/23/new-arsenal-manager-restricted-50m-summer-transfer-budget/

[El Lobo]

Or maybe just not comment on Europe, since his record is shocking. He loves to big himself up though.

He didn't comment on his record in Europe, he commented on qualifying for Europe. If he'd said 'Obviously I got Liverpool back into the Champions League, so my record in Europe speaks for itself' then fair enough. And I'm sure as a manager he recognises that's the main area he needs to improve.

It all went south here for him very quickly, which is a shame but we wouldn't have Klopp if it didn't so I guess its probably a good thing in hindsight. But it doesn't mean we need to jump all over stuff he says, or make out like he didn't generally do a good job here until the last season.

[BrandoLFC]

Have a link for that? Funny if true.

We went through this a couple of pages back.  We won't know for sure until 17/18 accounts are published but EPL rules state you cannot increase your annual salary to players by more than £7m (~£134k p/w) unless you also increase non-TV related income.  Arsenal's non-TV income has been stagnant and I'm betting the four new contracts they handed out more than exceed the wages they will be clearing from players out of contract or moved on.  There wouldn't then be much room to spend more than £50m as they have to pay the player a commensurate salary as well which they probably don't have the room to do so aside from those 1 or 2 main signings.

Now the Gunner fans here disagree with this and supposedly they will be getting a new Kit deal shortly that should help.  We won't know who was right until they either spend more than this during the summer or in the spring when the accounts are published.

[Welshred]

They are definitely being tighter with their budgets, are doing audits on all aspects of the club and getting each department to justify the money they are spending.

[Statto Red]

Arsenal getting twatted by Chelsea in the FA Youth Cup Final, currently 4-0 to Chelsea, 7-1 on aggregate.

[Statto Red]

Finishes 4-0 to Chelsea 7-1 on agg.

[The North Bank]

People say it doesn’t matter when we win the actual fa cup final, let alone the youth one.

[Gerry Attrick]

It'd be more noteworthy if Chelsea didn't win it. They've been hoovering up pots at that level for years now.

[The North Bank]

It'd be more noteworthy if Chelsea didn't win it. They've been hoovering up pots at that level for years now.

And how many of those will get into the chelsea team, none.

[NaivetyinBlack]

Same Bosnian source who claimed Klopp to LFC back in 2015( Pravda ), claiming Buvac to Arsenal.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/bosnia-liverpools-buvac-will-take-wenger-arsenal-manager/

[sms1986]

Same Bosnian source who claimed Klopp to LFC back in 2015( Pravda ), claiming Buvac to Arsenal.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/bosnia-liverpools-buvac-will-take-wenger-arsenal-manager/

Being right about one thing doesn't mean they're right about another. Buvac would not suit being the manager, assistant manager maybe but not the main guy. Just seems like idle speculation like everyone else is doing.

[plura]

Being right about one thing doesn't mean they're right about another. Buvac would not suit being the manager, assistant manager maybe but not the main guy. Just seems like idle speculation like everyone else is doing.

How do you know he wouldn't suit to be a manager?

[sms1986]

How do you know he wouldn't suit to be a manager?

Buvac is a very quiet, introspective person who isn't fond of the limelight. He prefers a more backroom role like assistant manager. If he did want to be a manager, I couldn't see him go to a club like Arsenal, especially as the first guy after the long reign of Wenger.

[bird_lfc]

Buvac is a very quiet, introspective person who isn't fond of the limelight. He prefers a more backroom role like assistant manager. If he did want to be a manager, I couldn't see him go to a club like Arsenal, especially as the first guy after the long reign of Wenger.

This is all guess work. You literally have no idea if he would be a good manager or not.

[sms1986]

This is all guess work. You literally have no idea if he would be a good manager or not.

I know, I'm not saying whether he would be a good manager or not, I'm saying that his personality doesn't suit being the man in the limelight.

[LallanaInPyjamas]

I know, I'm not saying whether he would be a good manager or not, I'm saying that his personality doesn't suit being the man in the limelight.

So you're saying he wouldn't be a good manager. 

[L8Craig]

I know, I'm not saying whether he would be a good manager or not, I'm saying that his personality doesn't suit being the man in the limelight.

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/01/you-cannot-help-but-like-him-liverpool-assistant-zeljko-buvac-talks-up-klopp/

“Both of us were looking to become managers and we promised each other, ‘If I am the first manager, I will take you and if you are the first manager you will take me.’ He came first. It is a friendship

[sms1986]

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/01/you-cannot-help-but-like-him-liverpool-assistant-zeljko-buvac-talks-up-klopp/

“Both of us were looking to become managers and we promised each other, ‘If I am the first manager, I will take you and if you are the first manager you will take me.’ He came first. It is a friendship

He could be a manager, but would he really want to go straight to being the manager of Arsenal, being the first new manager there in 22 years? I can't imagine him enjoying the high pressure first season he would have.

It's all just idle speculation anyway, I believe the personal leave theory because it makes sense, especially after Joyce saying he was more distant in the past few months.

[disgraced cake]

It's a massive appointment for Arsenal. Can't see them being left field and appointing a coach who by all accounts can't speak English too well

[sms1986]

It's a massive appointment for Arsenal. Can't see them being left field and appointing a coach who by all accounts can't speak English too well

Wouldn't be surprised if it's just the Bosnian paper trying to get some attention based on that they broke the Klopp to us story first.

[stevensr123]

He could be a manager, but would he really want to go straight to being the manager of Arsenal, being the first new manager there in 22 years? I can't imagine him enjoying the high pressure first season he would have.

It's all just idle speculation anyway, I believe the personal leave theory because it makes sense, especially after Joyce saying he was more distant in the past few months.

Would be weird fuck if just wanted a break before our biggest game in the season (and probably his career), you would think he would want to at least help his mate of 17 years out!

[lessthanmatt]

Boooooooo if this happens. After being second-in-command for so long (and getting a fraction of the recognition for any success Klopp's teams have), I think it's not unnatural if he would want to move.

If he did go to another club to be a fully-fledged manager, I bet his setup and tactics and ideas about football are near enough identical to what we play under Klopp. It would be like a clone. Hopefully, if he does move, then his impact on our team, and his own ability, is overstated.

[Dim Glas]

he would be head coach though, not manager, so it wouldn't be a massive stretch to go from being an assistant to head coach.

He'd actually have to do press conferences and stuff like that though for the first time ever 

But yeah, the whole timing thing is utterly shit if this is what ends up happening. Talk about a kick in the nuts.

[sms1986]

Would be weird fuck if just wanted a break before our biggest game in the season (and probably his career), you would think he would want to at least help his mate of 17 years out!

What if he can't help it? I'm sure he would want to stay with the club until the end of the season at least, but if something has happened/gotten worse, he might not be able to continue.

[jillcwhomever]

he would be head coach though, not manager, so it wouldn't be a massive stretch to go from being an assistant to head coach.

He'd actually have to do press conferences and stuff like that though for the first time ever 

But yeah, the whole timing thing is utterly shit if this is what ends up happening. Talk about a kick in the nuts.

Can he even speak English? I don't think I've ever heard him actually talk!

[lionel_messias]

Arsenal still have a manager until the end of the season, and his mate of 17 years is trying to win a Champions League with Liverpool football club, which would be one of the pinnacles of both their careers.

Mind you, football should never surprise us any more.

[thejbs]

I created this shirt in tribute to the great man... 

[sms1986]

Can he even speak English? I don't think I've ever heard him actually talk!

No idea, but I wouldn't be surprised if he can't. He might understand it, but from what people say about him, he rarely talks so he probably only really speaks Serbo-Croat and German.

[elsewhere]

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2016/01/you-cannot-help-but-like-him-liverpool-assistant-zeljko-buvac-talks-up-klopp/

“Both of us were looking to become managers and we promised each other, ‘If I am the first manager, I will take you and if you are the first manager you will take me.’ He came first. It is a friendship

So Buvac will be manager at Arsenal and Klopp will be his assistant manager then!

[elsewhere]

Being right about one thing doesn't mean they're right about another. Buvac would not suit being the manager, assistant manager maybe but not the main guy. Just seems like idle speculation like everyone else is doing.

We are just speculating. First of all it’s probably better to be quiet than saying shite like Hodgson or Moyes does every week, so it may work to his advantage.

But seriously, i will be totally  surprised if he goes there.

[Dim Glas]

Can he even speak English? I don't think I've ever heard him actually talk!

He spoke some english before coming here, but quite imited I think - not at the level Kloppo did, and he'd translate for him a lot in training.  But he's learnt much more since. So I'd guess he's proficient enough now having been here for 2 and a half years.

I've not heard him talk in YEARS!

[killer-heels]

If everyone is worried about how we would do without him, how worried will Arsenal be with him with Klopp and Kraweitz. Arsenal are a massive club and its not easy to slot in easily.

[Samie]

You're gonna need Pinky now.