Topic: The state Of The States. How Has America Got To Now?

[Mumm-Ra]

Like something you’d see in robocop.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/jan/25/pepper-spray-school-run-apocalyptic-suv-reznavi-vengeange?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Pepper spray for the school run? The weaponised SUV set to terrify America’s streets

The extreme features of the Reznavi Vengeance – including electrified door handles and blinding strobe lights – are wholly in tune with lethal trends in the US market

It's a gimmick vehicle for rappers/celebrities, you think anyone's buying a $285-400k vehicle for a school run?

Wholly in tune with lethal trends, OK Guardian. They don't half put out some clickbait shite these days. They'd have you thinking all our kids are wearing bulletproof backpacks to school every day 

[Lone Star Red]

I don't know, the idea of pepper spraying my son and his idiot friends in a few years when I start picking him up for school sounds pretttttty enticing. Might even 'accidentally' leave the electrified door handles armed if I've had a bad day at work.

[Jiminy Cricket]

It's a gimmick vehicle for rappers/celebrities, you think anyone's buying a $285-400k vehicle for a school run?

Wholly in tune with lethal trends, OK Guardian. They don't half put out some clickbait shite these days. They'd have you thinking all our kids are wearing bulletproof backpacks to school every day 

https://tuffypacks.com/

[Chakan]

It's a gimmick vehicle for rappers/celebrities, you think anyone's buying a $285-400k vehicle for a school run?

Wholly in tune with lethal trends, OK Guardian. They don't half put out some clickbait shite these days. They'd have you thinking all our kids are wearing bulletproof backpacks to school every day 

25th of January, 36 mass shootings since the beginning of the year. Yup definitely guardian putting shit into people's head.

[Nobby Reserve]

Like something you’d see in robocop.

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2023/jan/25/pepper-spray-school-run-apocalyptic-suv-reznavi-vengeange?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Pepper spray for the school run? The weaponised SUV set to terrify America’s streets

The extreme features of the Reznavi Vengeance – including electrified door handles and blinding strobe lights – are wholly in tune with lethal trends in the US market

From the article...

and wing mirrors that can shoot pepper spray – handy for putting those pesky cyclists in their place.

Where do I get one?

[Mumm-Ra]

25th of January, 36 mass shootings since the beginning of the year. Yup definitely guardian putting shit into people's head.

You live in the states. How many people do you know that send their kid to school with a bulletproof backpack? Or drive a bulletproof car? Is this representative of current trends in the US auto industry?

The article is blatant clickbait. How often does the Guardian review cars, I'd guess not often. So why this one? Because it, with a snappy headline about soccer moms doing a school run, will generate clicks from people who will say "look at what they've got in the states now, mad country that innit!"

[Chakan]

You live in the states. How many people do you know that send their kid to school with a bulletproof backpack? Or drive a bulletproof car? Is this representative of current trends in the US auto industry?

The article is blatant clickbait. How often does the Guardian review cars, I'd guess not often. So why this one? Because it, with a snappy headline about soccer moms doing a school run, will generate clicks from people who will say "look at what they've got in the states now, mad country that innit!"

I don't know anyone personally with kids who are still in school, the last 2 just left for college.

I'm not saying it isn't clickbait, but if more people thought about it the better. Clearly Americans don't give enough of a shit.

[afc tukrish]

I don't know anyone personally with kids who are still in school, the last 2 just left for college.

I'm not saying it isn't clickbait, but if more people thought about it the better. Clearly Americans don't give enough of a shit.

Clearly enough Americans don't give enough of a shit...

[Chakan]

Clearly enough Americans don't give enough of a shit...

Fair enough.

[afc tukrish]

Fair enough.

I agree with the general point and wish far more of us were far more concerned...

[Mumm-Ra]

I don't know anyone personally with kids who are still in school, the last 2 just left for college.

I'm not saying it isn't clickbait, but if more people thought about it the better. Clearly Americans don't give enough of a shit.

So what was your point? That there actually IS a problem with gun violence in America? Yes thanks for that, it's been a pleasure as always

[Chakan]

So what was your point? That there actually IS a problem with gun violence in America? Yes thanks for that, it's been a pleasure as always

Yes that is the point and people have the absolute right to rip the shit out of it. Poke fun at it, make fun of it, point at the Americans over and over and over again and laugh and ridicule it, because it's there to be ridiculed. USA USA USA!! We're number 1, we're number 1, in killing our own citizens and children.

[Mumm-Ra]

Yes that is the point and people have the absolute right to rip the shit out of it. Poke fun at it, make fun of it, point at the Americans over and over and over again and laugh and ridicule it, because it's there to be ridiculed. USA USA USA!! We're number 1, we're number 1, in killing our own citizens and children.

Oh OK that makes sense then. You weren’t really responding to my post per se, you were just mindlessly vomiting out the same repetitive dour shite, devoid of any insight, humor or originality. The Chakan Way. Thank God you’re back from your break, suitably refreshed

[Chakan]

Oh OK that makes sense then. You weren’t really responding to my post per se, you were just mindlessly vomiting out the same repetitive dour shite, devoid of any insight, humor or originality. The Chakan Way. Thank God you’re back from your break, suitably refreshed

Wasn't on break as far as I know. But seems nothing has changed really, same old USA. Someone made fun of them boo boo.

Put me on ignore if it bothers you so much.

[GreatEx]

This particular vehicle might be a gimmick, but the prevalence of Hummers and trucks with bonnet as tall as an average man suggest that military fetishism and "all must be crushed before the feet of my precious babies"...uh... ism... are particularly powerful forces in the US auto market.

[AndyInVA]

Kansas hunter shot and killed by his dog.   ( in the Telegraph)

The guy apparently put a loaded and cocked shot gun in the back seat of his car. Weapon discharges when the dog steps on the trigger. He calls 911 but is dead when they get there.

The only thing comes to my mind is that a good dog with a gun would have stopped it. It’s pretty Darwinesque for me. Basic firearm handling stupidity.

[BarryCrocker]

Kansas hunter shot and killed by his dog.   ( in the Telegraph)

The guy apparently put a loaded and cocked shot gun in the back seat of his car. Weapon discharges when the dog steps on the trigger. He calls 911 but is dead when they get there.

The only thing comes to my mind is that a good dog with a gun would have stopped it. It’s pretty Darwinesque for me. Basic firearm handling stupidity.

Wonder if it was a gun dog.

[stoa]

The most annoying thing about this, if you were this guy, has to be that you're getting all those headlines about your stupidity costing you your life only to realise that you're not even the first one to be so stupid. I think I've heard a story about a guy being shot by his dog in the US. Tried to google it, but of course most of the search results are about this incident, so I'm not sure whether the guy in the story I remembere was actually killed or just injured. However, this guy was still not the first one to get killed by his dog, because apparently there was a guy in Turkey last year, who got shot by his dog stepping on a loaded gun...

[Nobby Reserve]

Kansas hunter shot and killed by his dog.   ( in the Telegraph)

The guy apparently put a loaded and cocked shot gun in the back seat of his car. Weapon discharges when the dog steps on the trigger. He calls 911 but is dead when they get there.

The only thing comes to my mind is that a good dog with a gun would have stopped it. It’s pretty Darwinesque for me. Basic firearm handling stupidity.

There's some poetic justice there.

And it was apparrently a truck (pickup) he was driving. Of course it was. Always is with these fuckers. 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

There was one 2 or 3 months ago but I don't think that it was in the US.

Forget where though

[Riquende]

He didn't die, but I remember a story from way back about a guy in the US who took a shotgun to his wheel when trying to change the tyre, the blast ended up ricocheting into both his legs I think.

[Jshooters]

Some..erm…interesting rules have been brought to light in the Proud Boys insurrection trial

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/proud-boys-trial-rule-book-masturbation-ban-1234666317/

[stoa]

Couldn't read the article only read the URL and the headline. However, I can see now, why they seem  to be so angry about everything...

[Boston always unofficial]

[jambutty]

Oh OK that makes sense then. You weren’t really responding to my post per se, you were just mindlessly vomiting out the same repetitive dour shite, devoid of any insight, humor or originality. The Chakan Way. Thank God you’re back from your break, suitably refreshed

He's one of the main reasons I quit this place.  Couldn't stand his hyperbole.

Just sayin'.

Carry on. 

[Lone Star Red]

He's one of the main reasons I quit this place.  Couldn't stand his hyperbole.

Just sayin'.

Carry on. 

I know we got into it from time to time, especially over certain topics, and I hope I wasn’t also a reason you stopped posting. If I was, I apologize, and hope you’ll reconsider at some point.

[Jshooters]

Couldn't read the article only read the URL and the headline. However, I can see now, why they seem  to be so angry about everything...

haha good point

Here's the article in full (was on my phone last night so c&p was a chore)

The sedition trial of five members of the extremist group The Proud Boys is underway in Washington, D.C., and the public is getting an in-depth look into the inner workings of the “Western Chauvinist” mens club.

On Monday, prosecutors entered a handbook into evidence that has been provided to Proud Boys members. The guidelines outline everything from the groups ideology, communal initiation procedures, group songs and chants, to bizarre rules banning individual behavior including the wearing of fedoras … and masturbation.

“This is our religion,” reads one rule. “A Proud Boy may not ejaculate alone more often than once every thirty days […] if he needs to ejaculate it must be within one yard of a woman with her consent. The woman may not be a prostitute.”

The rule also denies an exception for cyber-sex with one’s wife.

The document details the initiation rituals for the group’s various tiers, including the already infamous practice of punching an initiate while he recites brands of breakfast cereal, getting a Proud Boys tattoo, and engaging in one documented instance of “major conflict … for the cause.”
The guidelines grant chapters “full autonomy” to conduct business as they see fit, only requiring that they uphold the group’s belief that “West is Best.” The document specifies that while individual chapters have plenty of leeway the movement is fundamentally “about taking our civilization back” and “rebuilding the patriarchy.”

The routine proceedings outlined in the document include the group’s official song; a chant venerating guns, businessmen, and housewives; and a passage from Pat Buchanan’s The Death of The West lauding Western men as the heroes of history who defeated slavery.
The trial, which commenced earlier this month, charges five members of the group — National Chairman Enrique Tario, organizer Joe Biggs, and members Ethan Nordean, Zachary Rehl, and Dominic Pezzola — with seditious conspiracy. The government successfully convicted members of the extremist group The Oath Keepers on similar sedition charges last year.

Tarrio was arrested two days before the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol in connection to charges of destruction of property at a protest in the days leading up to the riot. After serving a shortened sentence, the chairman of the Proud Boys now stands accused alongside his cronies of aiding in the organization of the unrest on Jan. 6.

With the aid of Biggs, Tarrio curated a group composed of his most devoted members, known internally as the Ministry of Self Defense (MOSD). According to a federal indictment, the group, ditching the typical identifiers suggested by their handbook, obscured their affiliation and helped direct the violent mob into the Capitol. Pezzola allegedly filmed himself making a declaration of “Proud of Your Boy” after reportedly using a police officer’s baton to break through the windows of the building.

Following the attack, Tarrio took credit for the violence in a group chat with his comrades. “Make no mistake… We did this…” Tarrio wrote.

[Chakan]

He's one of the main reasons I quit this place.  Couldn't stand his hyperbole.

Just sayin'.

Carry on. 

Yet you're still here. Doesn't seem like you know what the word "quit" means.

Plus, boo hoo cry me a river.

Carry on

[Mumm-Ra]

He's one of the main reasons I quit this place.  Couldn't stand his hyperbole.

Just sayin'.

Carry on. 

I used to think he was an AI bot programmed to spit out rawk consensus opinions, but they just couldn't get the code quite right to sound like a normal human. Current theory is that it's a form of Tourette's

Anyway yeah you should come back and post more so this place isn't a total echo chamber. Opinions of normal human lifeforms living in the US are valuable for these threads

[Chakan]

I used to think he was an AI bot programmed to spit out rawk consensus opinions, but they just couldn't get the code quite right to sound like a normal human. Current theory is that it's a form of Tourette's

Anyway yeah you should come back and post more so this place isn't a total echo chamber. Opinions of normal human lifeforms living in the US are valuable for these threads

Sticks and stones.

So now you think I have mental illness.

Funny how you resort straight to insults. Well least one of us is showing his/her true colors.

Carry on

[Riquende]

Couldn't read the article only read the URL and the headline. However, I can see now, why they seem  to be so angry about everything...

It's a viewpoint shared with a lot of incels, actually, so I guess it goes across the 'manosphere'. The idea is that 'adult material' is all part of an agenda (along with  video games, usually written 'vidya', drugs, alcohol) to keep men distracted and torpid.

[John C]

Brilliant

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/tXoJd4BoZTQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/tXoJd4BoZTQ</a>

[Nobby Reserve]

Fucking state of these pricks getting giddy and giving each other reach-rounds because they've shot a balloon.

USA! USA! USA!

CNN talking about the skill and bravery of the pilots.

USA! USA! USA!

WTF?

It was the size of 3 double decker busses and just floating around. The US 'defence' budget this year is $733,000,000,000.

[Machae]

Just find the whole thing cultish. Swearing allegiance, national anthem, flag thumping bullshit. Its almost brainwashed propaganda otherwise you're a traitor

[Nobby Reserve]

Just find the whole thing cultish. Swearing allegiance, national anthem, flag thumping bullshit. Its almost brainwashed propaganda otherwise you're a traitor

This

[Lone Star Red]

I dunno, I thought it was pretty cool.

[shank94]

Just find the whole thing cultish. Swearing allegiance, national anthem, flag thumping bullshit. Its almost brainwashed propaganda otherwise you're a traitor

I think a decent amount nationalism in current state of situations regarding countries under external military pressure is fine but with the US and other emerging right wing countries (ex India, Serbia, Hungary) nationalism is becoming a persons entire personality.

You can almost profile without fail any US right wing or left wing follower in detail about their way of life and beliefs without ever knowing them. I won't do that here though.

[Boston always unofficial]

Just find the whole thing cultish. Swearing allegiance, national anthem, flag thumping bullshit. Its almost brainwashed propaganda otherwise you're a traitor

I get a feeling the flag love fetish is the only thing keeping the States united.If that starts to drift away to more regional/State loyalty,USA as is could be done. not neccessarily a bad thing if they could do it without violence.The pledge of Allegiance take it back to it's original form and the trumpy loons would ban it.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/pledge-allegiance-pr-gimmick-patriotic-vow-180956332/

[BarryCrocker]

Why can't the SOTU just be an email? Total waste of time. Just 60-90 mins of what a country 'could' be to its own people and the rest of the world.

[lobsterboy]

Just find the whole thing cultish. Swearing allegiance, national anthem, flag thumping bullshit. Its almost brainwashed propaganda otherwise you're a traitor

Definitely. A bit like royalism here.