Topic: 2018 and 2022 FIFA World Cup - Russia and Qatar. Garcia Report...

[GBF]

Still, they'd need to bribe an awful lot of people to win it.

they do have an alpha dog as a secret weapon

[CallumLFC]

2018 and 2022. Bloody long time away.

Ill be 30 in 2018. Yikes. Stay away from me 2018 World Cup.

[exiledintheUSA]

2018 and 2022. Bloody long time away.

Ill be 30 in 2018. Yikes. Stay away from me 2018 World Cup.

Yep, I will be 43 in 2022, alomost dead.

[NatD]

The stadiums look nice to me.

Totally, and on paper they have a very strong bid: -

 - Financially better off then any other bidding country, and can throw Billions at it (and they plan to do that)
 - Air Conditioned stadiums and fan zones (with the newly developed technology being donated to third world countries)
 - Qatar isn't dry!
 - Each stadium can be reached within one hour from downtown Doha
 - The new stadiums that are being built are modular, and will be dismantled and given to poorer nations
 - Central location
 - Kick Off times will be the closest to standard European kick off times (which is the biggest TV audience of course)
 - It's never been in this part of the world
 - FIFA like the World Cup to leave a legacy (Africa / Brazil / etc.) and it certainly will here
 - USA had the tournament in '94, Japan / Koera in '02, and the distance and time difference hinders Australia

However, saying all that, Qatar simply isn't big enough in my opinion to hold a competition of the size of the World Cup.  Plus, they can't organise shit, and couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery (if they drunk!).

The climate would be an issue (even though they already have air conditioned open air stadiums) so I presume they would want to bring the tournament forward, probably to the beginning of June.

The drinking thing isn't a problem.

I personally think the biggest issue is that nobody here really cares.  They like to market themselves as  a Country that loves sport.  The country might do, but the locals don't.

From a selfish point of view, I would love it to come to Qatar.  I've only been here six months and love it - I certainly won't be here in 2022, but could earn a lot of money with the boom that comes with it!!!!!

[GBF]

I think the games may be played in daylight hours in Oz, it will be the middle of winter there. Although that made no difference in SA.

You would seriously hope that the forever imcompetant FIFA would have looked in racism issues in certain bidding Nations.

I dont think at the age of 40 I will be able to stay up late at night, age will catch up

[thegoodfella]

- The new stadiums that are being built are modular, and will be dismantled and given to poorer nations

Maybe we can have them put together a stadium for us, we are poor enough.

[Farman]

Qatar can piss off with calling it the 'Arabian Gulf' in that video for a start. Cheeky twats.

[SMD]

Qatar can piss off with calling it the 'Arabian Gulf' in that video for a start. Cheeky twats.

It is the Arabian Gulf, Sultan Bin Qassimi proved it too

[JoeTwerp]

Having seen the teams for 2022, it's very strange that Russia pulled out as they probably would have been above any of them bids

when 2018 had only European countries remaining, Russia had to pull out because successive world cups cannot be hosted on the same continent.

[jaygraham]

To be honest, not too fussed if england get it or not. A world cup in 2018 in Spain would be nice - could be a good summer trip away to somewhere hot to catch a world cup game rather than cold, shitty england.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

I was talking with my grandpa about it and told him who do you prefer for the 2018 & 2022 WC and I was stunned that he told me,"Why do I care? I'll be dead anyway."

Sad but may be true unfortunatly.

[Pata]

http://chuckblazer.blogspot.com/
Oh
My
Days
!!!

[Dr Manhattan]

England won't get it, which is a joke in all honesty, and it's just massively apparent now that the rest of Europe absolutely despises the UK. There's absolutely no reason to not let England have the World Cup over here. As much as I hate the national side and all the bollocks surrounding it, I'd still like to go to a few other group games in the World Cup.

I'd put my life on it not being England though.

[elsewhere]

i cant believe south korea and japan had bids for 2022,greedy bastards you just had a world cup together

2018:netherlands/belgium

2022:australia

i called it her first

[elsewhere]

I was talking with my grandpa about it and told him who do you prefer for the 2018 & 2022 WC and I was stunned that he told me,"Why do I care? I'll be dead anyway."

Sad but may be true unfortunatly.

He doesn't have to watch it "live" though.

[Suarez325]

England won't get it, which is a joke in all honesty, and it's just massively apparent now that the rest of Europe absolutely despises the UK. There's absolutely no reason to not let England have the World Cup over here. As much as I hate the national side and all the bollocks surrounding it, I'd still like to go to a few other group games in the World Cup.

I'd put my life on it not being England though.

To be honest I couldn't give a fuck if we get the World Cup in this country, in fact i'd rather the FA stopped wasting valuable resources on this poxy bid and spent some money on getting some decent coaches who can produce some decent players so as we can actually compete against the countries who consistently outperform us in major tournaments.

If we are succesful on Thursday the FA will spend the next 8 years patting themselves on the back and we will continue to fall behind the rest of the world in terms of technical ability.

Does it really matter where the World Cup is if all were gonna do is embarass ourselves again.

[PJG]

Australia will be like 2002 all over again, but worse. Imagine watching the World Cup final at 7.30 in the morning. Fuck me. Saying that the afternoon kick-offs will be at around 12pm-3am here, which will be pretty cool.

F off . I had to wake up and 2-3 in the morning so you could watch your precious world cup at primetime.  Grow a pair
P.S:A lot of coffee helps

[istanbulism]

Gathering at Circular Quay, Sydney at Saturday morning 1am for anyone who can be arsed!!

[killer-heels]

I think sending Beckham, Prince William and David Cameron could still have a major influence on the bidding process. FIFA believe that they themselves are so important that having 3 high profile people stroke their ego's is just what they want.

I am sure a couple of tickets to the Royal wedding and some appearances by Beckham at the next few FIFA parties will sway some votes.

[exiledintheUSA]

Gathering at Circular Quay, Sydney at Saturday morning 1am for anyone who can be arsed!!

Info sent to the RAF Bomber squadrons.

[Seebab]

Qatar don't stand a chance. 45 degress + in the summer. They had trouble in 06 in Germany, imagine how it'll be there.

Japan and Korea- why so soon? They just had one.

Hopefully Australia. Time differences I can deal with.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Don't know how but Qatar are favourites for 2022 on this

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/internationals/world-cup/2022-host

[kcbworth]

The stadiums look nice to me.

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Some out-there concepts there! Where would they get the money?

[Seebab]

Some out-there concepts there! Where would they get the money?

There's gold in them thar hills oil and natural gas reserves in them thar Persian Gulf.

[NatD]

Some out-there concepts there! Where would they get the money?

Where would they get the money?  Qatar are the biggest producer of Liquified Gas in the world.  The government has a multi billion dollar suprlus this year, and they've had double digit growth in their economy for the past ten years.

They have been careful not to follow the Dubai route of growing to quick to fast, and haven't pumped all of their money (loaned or otherwise) in to property or tourism.

From a development point of view, they are about 10 years behind the UAE, which means they are trying not to make the same mistakes as they did.

[jerseyhoya]

I'd love for the US to get 2022, but it's weird to plan for something 12 years away.

[SMD]

I'd love for the US to get 2022, but it's weird to plan for something 12 years away.

When would you like them to plan for it?

[NatD]

I'd love for the US to get 2022, but it's weird to plan for something 12 years away.

This is something that I forgot to mention yesterday, and again goes in favour of Qatar, but I don't understand why they are doing both 2018 and 2022 at the same time.

If Qatar have 12 years, then they have loads of time to deliver the Stadia, infastructure and amentities required that simply aren't in place yet.

Does anyone know why FIFA decided to nominate both tournaments at the same time??

[OsirisMVZ]

So they can get their bribe money all at once!

Also, fuck my arse, I want this shit in Korea/Japan again. I was 12 when it was there last time and I'll be 32 when the next one is there, and I can speak japanese now (when I couldn't then). Plus japanese chicks loves white guys. Fucking hairy clunge fest. Bring it on!

...But then there's Qatar and the awesome sun it brings.

Mind you, better than in Australia where a bloody house spider can give you cancer and all that shite. Though I've got family friends in Sydney so I'll get free accomodation if I want to go. Decisions!

[-Sad Fuck-]

America has all of those things.

[soxfan]

Yep, I will be 43 in 2022, alomost dead.

I'll be 59, so by your calculations that would make me...   

[soxfan]

This is something that I forgot to mention yesterday, and again goes in favour of Qatar, but I don't understand why they are doing both 2018 and 2022 at the same time.

If Qatar have 12 years, then they have loads of time to deliver the Stadia, infastructure and amentities required that simply aren't in place yet.

Does anyone know why FIFA decided to nominate both tournaments at the same time??

I read something about the desire to force the corporate sponsor bids higher to maximize profit. For example, instead of making Coke bid X, they want to panic them into bidding X*2.5 (not just X*2). In other words, Coke would fear losing out to Pepsi for 2 Cups in a row, so it drives up the price of 2 Cups to more than double the price of a single one.

Whether that ^^^ is correct or not, you can bet it has something to do with money. 

[jerseyhoya]

When would you like them to plan for it?

What do we need to plan for? We could host the World Cup this summer if you told us it was happening in March.

[RevDog]

I live in Australia and I bloody hope we get it in 2022. The European audience is huge but FIFA surely want to grow the game in Asia where our timezone is similar. Japan/ Korea I don't think stand a chance for this Asian region.

I want England to win the 2018 bid as well.

[Jase]

I read something about the desire to force the corporate sponsor bids higher to maximize profit. For example, instead of making Coke bid X, they want to panic them into bidding X*2.5 (not just X*2). In other words, Coke would fear losing out to Pepsi for 2 Cups in a row, so it drives up the price of 2 Cups to more than double the price of a single one.

Whether that ^^^ is correct or not, you can bet it has something to do with money. 

I don't know if that's correct or not (certainly makes sense), but I've also read that it's linked to the television contracts (probably in the same manner of bumping the prices up because of the 'panic' element). Both are probably correct. I doubt it'll be for the benefit of the host country to have an extra couple of years to plan anyway and even if that is an intention, it'll be way down on the list of priorities.

[gerrardsarmy]

I read somewhere that this year World Cup television audiences were up 9% from 2006 because of the favourable time difference between SA and Asia. Could be a big boost for the Oz bid because of the similarities.

Hope England in 2018 and Australia in 2022.

[Lent§]

Don't want Oz, but that's just selfish really cos I don't wanna be up at all hours.

[Bangin Them In]

Just a thought.

Instead of whining about the bribery, why not participate ?

May get the job done.

[RigBon1892]

Can't see Japan/Korea getting it again, for one thing that wouldn't be fair.

Although in the grand scheme of things it hasn't been that long since Holland and Belgium hosted a major tournament.

Can't see England getting it to be honest.

[gazzalfc]

Just saw the S*n front page today and now I'm hoping England dont get it.

Already blaming the BBC