Author Topic: Injury (and absence) related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread) (Read 579147 times)

TepidT2O · « **Reply #6800 on:** April 11, 2024, 07:38:28 am »

Quote from: spider-neil on April 11, 2024, 07:21:03 am

Can you fix him?
I'm a doctor, Jim, not a miracle worker.

My favourite, I’m a doctor Jim not a godamn plasterer

TheShanklyGates · « **Reply #6801 on:** April 14, 2024, 03:09:02 pm »

Sigh.

DiggerJohn · « **Reply #6802 on:** April 14, 2024, 03:11:55 pm »

Didn't look good for young Connor there

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #6803 on:** April 14, 2024, 07:19:27 pm »

Jurgen say anything after the game on Bradley’s injury?

Fromola · « **Reply #6804 on:** April 14, 2024, 07:20:54 pm »

Quote from: duvva 💅 on April 14, 2024, 07:19:27 pm

Jurgen say anything after the game on Bradley’s injury?

Doesn't know if it's ligament damage or not.

Samie · « **Reply #6805 on:** April 14, 2024, 07:21:01 pm »

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1779541278482370946

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Klopp on Conor Bradley injury: "He over-stretched. Whether it's ligament damage or not, I don't know yet. We will get that information on Monday or Tuesday."

killer-heels · « **Reply #6806 on:** April 14, 2024, 07:48:32 pm »

Think Bradley’s race is run for this season whether injured or not. Never want an injury but he could do with a breather, he has been excellent.

Fromola · « **Reply #6807 on:** April 14, 2024, 07:54:28 pm »

Quote from: killer-heels on April 14, 2024, 07:48:32 pm

Think Bradley’s race is run for this season whether injured or not. Never want an injury but he could do with a breather, he has been excellent.

Needs a breather but we've got 4 away games in 9 or 10 games coming up. Our options now are either a rusty Trent coming back from long term injury or an off-the-boil Gomez who isn't great on the side anyway. Bradley missing a couple of games did for Trent last time when he ended up rushed back in for Arsenal away.

lionel_messias · « **Reply #6808 on:** April 16, 2024, 11:12:35 am »

Quote from: Fromola on April 14, 2024, 07:54:28 pm

Needs a breather but we've got 4 away games in 9 or 10 games coming up. Our options now are either a rusty Trent coming back from long term injury or an off-the-boil Gomez who isn't great on the side anyway. Bradley missing a couple of games did for Trent last time when he ended up rushed back in for Arsenal away.

Going to have to be Trent, or Jomez. And to be honest, if Trent cannot play most of the games now, we're done for this season.

Legs · « **Reply #6809 on:** April 16, 2024, 11:33:46 am »

Wouldnt be shocked to see Jones play a game there too.

kaesarsosei · « **Reply #6810 on:** April 16, 2024, 11:49:07 am »

We only have 6 games left and I think there's enough of a gap that Trent can play them all. He can start Rob Jones in Atalanta for all I care.

classycarra · « **Reply #6811 on:** April 16, 2024, 11:52:13 am »

Quote from: Legs on April 16, 2024, 11:33:46 am

Wouldnt be shocked to see Jones play a game there too.

Potentially nice opportunity for some cameos from Bajcetic too who plated there in his brief games this season

Too early for flapjacks? · « **Reply #6812 on:** April 16, 2024, 01:48:12 pm »

Give Gomez and Tsimikas the two midweek games and Trent and Robertson the five Sat-Mon games. Trent getting another 45 minutes against Atalanta should set him up nicely for Fulham.

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Thursday 18/04/2024 20:00 EUROPA LEAGUE QUARTER FINAL 2nd LEG vs Atalanta (a)
Sunday 21/04/2024 16:30 Fulham (a)
Wednesday 24/04/2024 20:00 Everton (a)
Saturday 27/04/2024 12:30 West Ham United (a)
Sunday 05/05/2024 16:30 Tottenham Hotspur (h)
Monday 13/05/2024 20:00 Aston Villa (a)
Sunday 19/05/2024 16:00 Wolverhampton (h)

killer-heels · « **Reply #6813 on:** April 16, 2024, 01:50:02 pm »

Bradley out for 3 weeks.

Lisan Al Gaib · « **Reply #6814 on:** April 18, 2024, 07:10:16 pm »

Quote from: Funky_Gibbons on April 10, 2024, 03:30:39 pm

If we're equating domestic cup competitions to European competitions, the Europa League is the EFL and the Champions League is the FA Cup.

Kelleher has tended to play all EFL cup games and I don’t expect that to change in the Europa League. Klopp won’t forget how much he’s helped us out this season and bench him for the rest of the season. Besides, why give Alisson more opportunities to get injured again.

Looks like Jurgen forgot how much he's helped us out this season...

classycarra · « **Reply #6815 on:** **Yesterday** at 01:56:29 pm »

in before the 'we absolutely definitely don't have a problem with returning players quickly getting injured, how can you even ask?!' crowd of zealots get settled in

TepidT2O · « **Reply #6816 on:** **Yesterday** at 01:59:21 pm »

Jota. Two weeks. Urgh

newterp · « **Reply #6817 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:01:34 pm »

Quote from: TepidT2O on Yesterday at 01:59:21 pm

Jota. Two weeks. Urgh

WTF??

We need another forward given that Jota is good for alot of missed time every year.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #6818 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:02:11 pm »

Quote from: newterp on Yesterday at 02:01:34 pm

WTF??

We need another forward given that Jota is good for alot of missed time every year.

Hip injury.

That’s life I guess

Barneylfc∗ · « **Reply #6819 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:03:19 pm »

Quote from: classycarra on Yesterday at 01:56:29 pm

in before the 'we absolutely definitely don't have a problem with returning players quickly getting injured, how can you even ask?!' crowd of zealots get settled in

Is it a recurrence of the previous injury?

Rush 82 · « **Reply #6820 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:03:33 pm »

two weeks....

sigh...

KevLFC · « **Reply #6821 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:03:42 pm »

We don't half pick up some injuries. There not even minor ones either, as for Jota at no point during the goal did he look hurt.

Adam_LFC · « **Reply #6822 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:08:26 pm »

No luck.

Schmarn · « **Reply #6823 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:21:25 pm »

I don't put this one on the fitness team. Jota is just made of glass.

A mate of mine is a Wolves fan and he did tell me when we bought him that he's brilliant but picks up too many injuries. A real shame as we really miss his finishing.

Darwin and Mo really need to step up now.

decosabute · « **Reply #6824 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:42:08 pm »

“It’s not a big one. When I say two weeks, actually really it’s pretty much nothing but enough to not be available.”

If it's a nothing injury according to Klopp, then why, at this point in the season, are we so cautious with our one forward who looks like scoring? Can we not for once try and run a player or give him a painkiller? There's no time for him to contribute anyway if he sits out now.

Of course we don't have all the information, but I can't help feeling that we are stupidly risk averse when it comes to injuries. If I had any feeling that being risk averse was in any way helping us to avoid them, then I'd say that the policy is fine, but that doesn't happen at all. Even when we constantly preach caution, rush nothing, and give players double the amount of time to come back, we still end up getting more injuries than anyone else anyway. So you're kind of left feeling, what's the point?

Would love to feel confident that Mo and Darwin are finally gonna step up in this run-in, but I'm not massively optimistic.

SamLad · « **Reply #6825 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:47:07 pm »

I'd be happy to see Danns get minutes.

Andy82lfc · « **Reply #6826 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:54:47 pm »

Quote from: decosabute on Yesterday at 02:42:08 pm

“It’s not a big one. When I say two weeks, actually really it’s pretty much nothing but enough to not be available.”

If it's a nothing injury according to Klopp, then why, at this point in the season, are we so cautious with our one forward who looks like scoring? Can we not for once try and run a player or give him a painkiller? There's no time for him to contribute anyway if he sits out now.

Of course we don't have all the information, but I can't help feeling that we are stupidly risk averse when it comes to injuries. If I had any feeling that being risk averse was in any way helping us to avoid them, then I'd say that the policy is fine, but that doesn't happen at all. Even when we constantly preach caution, rush nothing, and give players double the amount of time to come back, we still end up getting more injuries than anyone else anyway. So you're kind of left feeling, what's the point?

Would love to feel confident that Mo and Darwin are finally gonna step up in this run-in, but I'm not massively optimistic.

Yeah thats just a fucking joke isn't it, desperate for someone to come in and score goals, he bags the first one in open play for a while as the rest of the front line have been stinking the place up, everyone is made up but then he's fucking injured again. Absolute pile of fucking shite just as we thought it might get better.

Although speaking through emotion I agree, just fucking inject them with pain killers if it's a 'nothing' injury while we have 6 cup finals left.

Just got to hope to fuck that Salah gets his head screwed on for the last few games, annoying as fuck how he has fallen off a cliff when we all know he can score for fun when he wants to.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #6827 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:55:10 pm »

Didn’t he get a bang on the hip in the build up to the 2nd leg v Atalanta. He was on the bench but not 100%.

Presume that playing Sunday has aggravated that

Walshy nMe® · « **Reply #6828 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:56:07 pm »

That's Jota done for the season then.

Zlen · « **Reply #6829 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:56:24 pm »

Fuck it. We're back to forwards completely out of form and seemingly uncapable of scoring from open play. Not good news this, and by that I mean it's fucking shocking news.

FlashingBlade · « **Reply #6830 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:56:42 pm »

Despair you can live with, its the injury news that kills you!

Buster Gonad · « **Reply #6831 on:** **Yesterday** at 02:58:34 pm »

Quote from: Andy82lfc on Yesterday at 02:54:47 pm

Yeah thats just a fucking joke isn't it, desperate for someone to come in and score goals, he bags the first one in open play for a while as the rest of the front line have been stinking the place up, everyone is made up but then he's fucking injured again. Absolute pile of fucking shite just as we thought it might get better.

Although speaking through emotion I agree, just fucking inject them with pain killers if it's a 'nothing' injury while we have 6 cup finals left.

Just got to hope to fuck that Salah gets his head screwed on for the last few games, annoying as fuck how he has fallen off a cliff when we all know he can score for fun when he wants to.

Gravenberch scored our first goal from open play to end the bad run

JRed · « **Reply #6832 on:** **Yesterday** at 03:15:13 pm »

Injuries have given PGMOL a run for their money when it comes to costing us points!

JP! · « **Reply #6833 on:** **Yesterday** at 03:23:51 pm »

It's almost Thiago-esque. Almost, as Thiago managed to tear his hamstring in 5 minutes on the pitch.

classycarra · « **Reply #6834 on:** **Yesterday** at 03:29:22 pm »

Quote from: decosabute on Yesterday at 02:42:08 pm

“It’s not a big one. When I say two weeks, actually really it’s pretty much nothing but enough to not be available.”

If it's a nothing injury according to Klopp, then why, at this point in the season, are we so cautious with our one forward who looks like scoring? Can we not for once try and run a player or give him a painkiller? There's no time for him to contribute anyway if he sits out now.

Fairly sure that we (and or the players) ask that very very often, don't think it'd be a 'for once' situation.

As for why the caution, my guess is it's that he has an international tournament this summer kicking off middle of June (and the prep games are about 5 or 6 weeks away).

Boston Bosox · « **Reply #6835 on:** **Yesterday** at 03:36:14 pm »

Diogo Jota Games Payed

Appearances per season
Season   League   FA   LC   Europe   Other   Total
Totals   97   7   10   31   0   145
2020-2021   19   0   2   9   0   30
2021-2022   35   5   4   11   0   55
2022-2023   22   0   0   6   0   28
2023-2024   21   2   4   5   0   32

lionel_messias · « **Reply #6836 on:** **Yesterday** at 03:56:55 pm »

Just I just say "fuck"
Please?

paisley1977 · « **Reply #6837 on:** **Yesterday** at 04:09:41 pm »

The ex evertonian Iwobi landed on him similar to the Brentford tackle but obviously not as serious.

harryc · « **Reply #6838 on:** **Yesterday** at 04:16:21 pm »

Least surprising news that.

decosabute · « **Reply #6839 on:** **Yesterday** at 06:44:10 pm »

Quote from: classycarra on Yesterday at 03:29:22 pm

Fairly sure that we (and or the players) ask that very very often, don't think it'd be a 'for once' situation.

As for why the caution, my guess is it's that he has an international tournament this summer kicking off middle of June (and the prep games are about 5 or 6 weeks away).

I don't get that feeling at all. Innocuous, nothing injuries are always minimum a few weeks. The players are usually back later than forecast too. Players coming off any medium to long term injury always take weeks building up to starts. The last one especially is fine in isolation, but my point is that we are risk-averse on all injuries. I don't see the same caution at all in our rivals. City constantly rush players back. DeBruyne was clearly playing through injections the back end of last season. 34 year old Walker just played 300 minutes in 7 days straight after getting rushed back from a minor injury.

I think we are super cautious, which would be fine if we saw any benefit from that approach, but we don't. It reminded me of last season when we would constantly not start players because we were playing it safe, but then those same players would be thrown on at half time or 60 to save the game for us anyway. You're left thinking, what was the point?

And maybe you're right in this case that Jota wouldn't want to take injections or any risk with the Euros coming, but I feel like we do this constantly regardless.