Author Topic: Jestrovich banned for 3 games for racially abusing Sissoko (Read 26187 times)

mcevand · « **on:** November 7, 2005, 07:23:06 pm »

Taken from UEFA.com (Apologies if it has been posted already. Very busy in work and haven't got time to do a search)

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/UCL/news/Kind=1/newsId=364691.html

BIGdavalad · « **Reply #1 on:** November 7, 2005, 07:23:37 pm »

Well, that'll teach him

Derzyjudek · « **Reply #2 on:** November 7, 2005, 07:24:57 pm »

not exactly sending a message with this are they...typical uefa cop out!!

mcevand · « **Reply #3 on:** November 7, 2005, 07:29:32 pm »

If that would have been an English player racially abusing an Aderlecht player, I'm sure the outcome would have been very different given that fact that fireign supporters and players get away with murder but when something less happens from an english team / fans, they throw the book at us big time.

Taylor_LFC · « **Reply #4 on:** November 7, 2005, 07:37:57 pm »

shit that should of been a lot more than 3 games

Hattori Hanzo · « **Reply #5 on:** November 7, 2005, 07:39:52 pm »

Feckin' outrage!

waittillmay · « **Reply #6 on:** November 7, 2005, 07:43:55 pm »

usual shite form UEFA then.
But you are right, can you imagine if it had been an english player...

Drakey · « **Reply #7 on:** November 7, 2005, 07:45:37 pm »

Wow you really showed him, UEFA.

Life · « **Reply #8 on:** November 7, 2005, 07:48:02 pm »

I still don't think he did...but I'm a crap lip-reader. Maybe the ambigiuity had something to do with the leniency.

Des Lynam · « **Reply #9 on:** November 7, 2005, 07:54:16 pm »

Cop out by UEFA. Considering Anderlecht have got two meaningless games left in Europe this season. Really taught him a lesson there....It really is pathetic. If you get a straight red in any game isnt a three game ban?. So therefore, he hasnt really had any extra punishment for it...just the standard 3 game ban. Disgusting.

Gnurglan · « **Reply #10 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:02:33 pm »

Wouldn't the red card and a normal one game ban have been enough?

Rizla · « **Reply #11 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:04:36 pm »

Quote from: mcevand on November 7, 2005, 07:29:32 pm

If that would have been an English player racially abusing an Aderlecht player, I'm sure the outcome would have been very different given that fact that fireign supporters and players get away with murder but when something less happens from an english team / fans, they throw the book at us big time.

Exactly!

UEFA are the biggest joke in existence! Bunch of useless, useless pathetic muppets the lot...

dfella25 · « **Reply #12 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:06:10 pm »

Quote from: Gnurglan on November 7, 2005, 08:02:33 pm

Wouldn't the red card and a normal one game ban have been enough?

I would hope not but the fact that a three game ban was passed they might as well have slapped his arse and sent him home. For all the message a three match ban sends out for ignorance.

JohnSullie · « **Reply #13 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:07:06 pm »

After all those campaigns to make people aware of racial abuse this is the best they can do ?!,what an utter disgrace.

Filler. · « **Reply #14 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:11:34 pm »

bet Jestrovich is thanking his lucky stars he didn't call him gay aswell.

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #15 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:12:01 pm »

Mihjalovic got 7 games (i think for spitting) yet jestrovic gets 3 for racist abuse?

Taking the fucking piss over racism yet again UEFA

theCanadian · « **Reply #16 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:18:25 pm »

He probably should have gotten somewhere more along the lines of 4 to 6 months.

The only explanation I can see for UEFA to have given him such a light penalty is that UEFA's investigation yielded some doubt as to whether or not he actually racially abused Sissoko.

theCanadian · « **Reply #17 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:20:20 pm »

Quote from: Paco Ayesteran on November 7, 2005, 07:54:16 pm

If you get a straight red in any game isnt a three game ban?.

No I'm fairly certain that the automatic ban for a straight red is 1 game, but then it often increases to 3 games after it is looked at.

thisisanfield · « **Reply #18 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:21:28 pm »

They should have just banned him from playing in CL for a year.

The Road End · « **Reply #19 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:21:46 pm »

Quote from: theCanadian on November 7, 2005, 08:18:25 pm

He probably should have gotten somewhere more along the lines of 4 to 6 months.

The only explanation I can see for UEFA to have given him such a light penalty is that UEFA's investigation yielded some doubt as to whether or not he actually racially abused Sissoko.

Its on UEFA.com,and their committee confirms he used a racially motivated insult.

Xabi · « **Reply #20 on:** November 7, 2005, 08:38:21 pm »

3 game ban is a joke. They're not going to get another three in this seasons tournament anyway.

classycarra · « **Reply #21 on:** November 7, 2005, 09:11:33 pm »

Disgrace, how hard would it be to ban him for x months, or ban him from playing in europe for a year or something. by all accounts anderlecht are disciplining him, so how come uefa can't follow suit, isolate the scumbag

Alf · « **Reply #22 on:** November 7, 2005, 09:50:26 pm »

A ban similar to the 6 game ban Lee Bowyer got for stamping on that fellas head when he was at Leeds would have been a fair punishment IMO.

Gnurglan · « **Reply #23 on:** November 7, 2005, 09:50:39 pm »

Isn't it too simple to make a scapegoat out of Jestrovic? Almost every game we see players shout abuse. It can be aimed at the ref or the opponent. It is sort of accepted. If all of a sudden someone shouts a racist word everything changes. I'm all for the red card, but that's it. Not because I take racism lightly, but because the proportions are wrong. A single word results in say 10 times the punishment for a normal red card? 10 times the punishment for a reckless tackle that can end a player's career? Doesn't make sense to me.

smicer07 · « **Reply #24 on:** November 7, 2005, 09:52:51 pm »

Yes, it should be 10 times the punishment. Especially since the FA are so keen to promote the cause.

Gnurglan · « **Reply #25 on:** November 7, 2005, 10:05:42 pm »

Quote from: smicer07- Live Comms on November 7, 2005, 09:52:51 pm

Yes, it should be 10 times the punishment. Especially since the FA are so keen to promote the cause.

Can't agree.

Quote from: MilanSinamaCisse on November 7, 2005, 09:50:26 pm

A ban similar to the 6 game ban Lee Bowyer got for stamping on that fellas head when he was at Leeds would have been a fair punishment IMO.

Disagree. IMO you can't even compare the two. Stamping on someone's head is far worse. In particular when shouting anything (but racist words) is normally accepted on a football pitch, at least if done in the heat of the moment.

Red Marauder · « **Reply #26 on:** November 7, 2005, 10:10:36 pm »

3 games is a joke......kick out racism?

Their really goin' about it in the right way with this message aren't they?

And the fellas still denying saying it....absolute shambles

Mighty_Red · « **Reply #27 on:** November 7, 2005, 10:39:08 pm »

Quote from: Gnurglan on November 7, 2005, 09:50:39 pm

Isn't it too simple to make a scapegoat out of Jestrovic? Almost every game we see players shout abuse. It can be aimed at the ref or the opponent. It is sort of accepted. If all of a sudden someone shouts a racist word everything changes. I'm all for the red card, but that's it. Not because I take racism lightly, but because the proportions are wrong. A single word results in say 10 times the punishment for a normal red card? 10 times the punishment for a reckless tackle that can end a player's career? Doesn't make sense to me.

You have a point but 3 matches is a pretty stock punishment for a lot of red cards. I think 4,5 or 6 matches wouldve sent a clear message out without being overly harsh

Point that has to be made is that how can we expect crowds to stop making racist chants, maokey noises etc if the players & managers dont?

LFCMunkee · « **Reply #28 on:** November 7, 2005, 10:43:23 pm »

Just 3 games!?!

thats just taking the piss!

M|chael · « **Reply #29 on:** November 7, 2005, 10:47:20 pm »

Really surprised. It's a disgrace really.

LFC on tour · « **Reply #30 on:** November 7, 2005, 10:54:57 pm »

Well done, Absolute shit out on Uefa's behalf.. but did we expect anything else? We all know how uefa treat england compared to other countries fans. We were threatended with being kicked out of (the world cup?? im not to sure) for hooliganism but spain chant racism at all of there matchs, there coach is racist and they hit them with a shitty fine. Uefa are a bunch of absolute wankers. All talk no Action when it comes to teams in europe. Fucking hell, Should of had the book, the table and a footie booy threw at him after all the kick racism out of football promoting. What a bolloks way to scare the racists

Gnurglan · « **Reply #31 on:** November 7, 2005, 11:07:37 pm »

3 games is still a clear message. There's no need to go over the top. We're talking a ban that stretches over half the group stages, apparently for one line of racist abuse.

dobbouk · « **Reply #32 on:** November 7, 2005, 11:09:50 pm »

After listening to that anti racism message for 3 mintues nearly bursting me ear drums on that night im 10 times as annoyed as I would have been anyway. I just emailed uefa. Made me feel a little better

Lush is the best medicine... · « **Reply #33 on:** November 7, 2005, 11:25:42 pm »

Quote from: dobbouk on November 7, 2005, 11:09:50 pm

After listening to that anti racism message for 3 mintues nearly bursting me ear drums on that night im 10 times as annoyed as I would have been anyway. I just emailed uefa. Made me feel a little better

I was just thinking of that - maybe they should play that message into the dressing rooms before the game?

theCanadian · « **Reply #34 on:** November 7, 2005, 11:27:39 pm »

Quote from: Gnurglan on November 7, 2005, 09:50:39 pm

Isn't it too simple to make a scapegoat out of Jestrovic? Almost every game we see players shout abuse. It can be aimed at the ref or the opponent. It is sort of accepted. If all of a sudden someone shouts a racist word everything changes. I'm all for the red card, but that's it. Not because I take racism lightly, but because the proportions are wrong. A single word results in say 10 times the punishment for a normal red card? 10 times the punishment for a reckless tackle that can end a player's career? Doesn't make sense to me.

My initial reaction to that is that there is some sense in there.

However, we are trying to get racism out of the game and I don't think fairness comes into the equation. It is about sending a strong message to the rest of Europe that if you use racial abuse then there will be massive consequences.

Just yelling at the other player calling him an asshole or a fuck face is nothing. Racially abusing a player is not socially acceptable, and from what I can see, it doesn't happen all the time (I don't watch eastern european football though).

Roger · « **Reply #35 on:** November 7, 2005, 11:34:43 pm »

You are not going to get general agreement on the sanction imposed as its a very complex area. 3 games seems fair to me.

Gnurglan · « **Reply #36 on:** November 7, 2005, 11:44:31 pm »

Quote from: theCanadian on November 7, 2005, 11:27:39 pm

Just yelling at the other player calling him an asshole or a fuck face is nothing. Racially abusing a player is not socially acceptable, and from what I can see, it doesn't happen all the time (I don't watch eastern european football though).

Yes, but why is that nothing? That's the big fault in this. I mean, if one player shouts abuse all the time and the other keeps shut only to react with a single racist word, it can't be right to say the first is part of the game but the racist thing is absolutely shocking behaviour.

mikeb58 · « **Reply #37 on:** November 7, 2005, 11:52:40 pm »

Usual UEFA cop out really, didn't expect anything else.

ewok-red · « **Reply #38 on:** November 7, 2005, 11:56:41 pm »

i was kinda holding out for a hanging at least

ElSheak · « **Reply #39 on:** November 8, 2005, 12:01:05 am »

Kick racism out of football. Kick this fucking no mark out then! UEFA = Joke.

No example set.

Who's arsed about a three match ban? He aint.