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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #280 on: April 19, 2017, 11:31:10 AM »
That would be super handy for my work...

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/l/liverpool_crown_street/

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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #281 on: April 19, 2017, 11:49:51 AM »
That would be super handy for my work...

http://www.disused-stations.org.uk/l/liverpool_crown_street/

Nice one la.

Defo some truth in that as the location i posted still has the original gate posts in it..as shown in the last photo in your link.
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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #282 on: April 19, 2017, 12:05:40 PM »
Nice one la.

Defo some truth in that as the location i posted still has the original gate posts in it..as shown in the last photo in your link.

Yes, all that's left, just a bit further on ...

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4012225,-2.9583264,3a,75y,49.36h,85.6t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sDtnho_ThRgtngdlvx1sfSQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It's certainly likely that the property could be on top of one of the many wagon turntables that dotted the vicinity, like this...

...from when it was a goods yard. See map attached below.

I've marked the ventilation shaft ..

...which is still there today to try and enable you to get your bearings.

The snag is, that whole area has changed beyond recogintion, roads have been re-aligned and many roads simply long gone now.

Here's a picture of  what the whole area looked like around 1970...almost like post bomb Hiroshima..


There's a guy who has made a model of the area here
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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #283 on: April 20, 2017, 10:52:28 AM »
Quite fascinating that is Gulley cheers mate,the ventilation shaft looks to be right behind the original building mentioned.
One of those areas with so much history & almost completely unrecognizable.
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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #284 on: April 20, 2017, 12:49:36 PM »
...One of those areas with so much history & almost completely unrecognizable.

Tell me about it... so much of the Liverpool of my childhood and youth has long gone or is almost unrecognizable now, it's only by looking for the odd landmark like that ventilation shaft that I can get my bearings to the way I remember it all.

Anyway, is this the actual property?...

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.4009358,-2.9581021,3a,75y,280.8h,87.23t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOU3bimJGRRpAcG66hkU3sw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

If so, then yes, by looking at the map there could well be a turntable left in situ underneath it all.

On the map, I've drawn the outline of the property as a dotted line and the street view above is from the figure, with the ventilation shaft immediately behind and I've circled the likely wagon turntable...

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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #285 on: April 20, 2017, 02:23:03 PM »

Here's an aerial shot, you can see the Ventilation shaft....a bit changed today!



That's Myrtle Gardens, one of the immediate pre-war housing schemes. It was once a thriving community, plenty on Yo! about it.

Most of it was demolished  in the early 80's and all those new houses there today later built there, though some parts further back survive and have been a tad gentrified.

There's an absolutely cracking atmospheric shot from the early 60's of Eayeaddio here in the old photos thread taken outside there, I think Tsar and I found probably the exact location later in the thread here, it's called Minster Court now....

edit - Just noticed, that water fountain in the bottom left of that old photo, it's still there...

https://www.google.com/maps/@53.3998857,-2.9577437,3a,75y,42.94h,92.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1su-DIpvn5t7QxJeSMTN1HzQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656


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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #286 on: April 20, 2017, 11:49:29 PM »
That looks like the Cathederal being built.
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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #287 on: April 21, 2017, 12:15:27 AM »

It is, it's probably around 1965/66 or so.

I remember that crane was said to be one of the largest tower cranes in the world at that time.
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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #288 on: April 21, 2017, 12:20:37 AM »

You can also see to the right of the cathedral and in the far distance the Three Sisters, the Clarence dock power station chimneys.
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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #289 on: April 21, 2017, 08:46:26 AM »
Yep that was the property in question Gulley & top researching there mate.
Orignally when i heard the details i pretty much scoffed at it mainly coz it's not my area & never thought there would ever have been a station there too..if i remember right he said it was the first tuntable ever built..another one to read up & research a bit more.
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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #290 on: April 21, 2017, 02:40:22 PM »
First half of this vid may interest you G..2nd half was a little bit of an eye opener for me,looks like the build up to the breakdown of the area.

<a href="https://youtube.com/v/3iAQrAZasa8" target="_blank" class="new_win">https://youtube.com/v/3iAQrAZasa8</a>
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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #291 on: April 21, 2017, 03:03:23 PM »

Yes I've seen that, it's quite interesting though a touch sad.

But compare and contrast those end days with this from when the Gerrard Gardens estate opened in 1935 and all was hope...

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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #292 on: April 21, 2017, 03:48:15 PM »
Two interesting vids, those.


The first one is a bit weird.  It's almost like they've filmed a load of footage for a documentary, and these are the unused leftovers.  The shots are just so random, and out of context.


The second one. ^^^  Ha Ha Ha. How many kids can you fit on a roundabout.(2.05)   ;D      It's like the Calcutta express.

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Re: Older places that have gone/changed in Liverpool
« Reply #293 on: Yesterday at 07:55:39 PM »
If I remember my history, Crown Street was the original terminus for the Liverpool-Manchester Railway.  There was a completely different Edge Hill train station that serviced it, done out in Egyptian style, complete with mini-sphinxes.  Lime Street station was built because Crown Street wasn't central enough; the original Edge Hill station was demolished and the current one was built, but the tunnels remained.  My mum told me Crown Street was a goods/coal yard until the 70s before it was closed and landscaped.
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« Reply #295 on: Yesterday at 09:26:13 PM »
There was a big Moorish Arch around the area too.

http://www.edgehillstation.co.uk/resources/moorish-arch-looking-from-the-tunnel/

That might have been where the Sphinxes were...
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