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snowlion · « **Reply #15440 on:** April 19, 2012, 03:34:07 PM »

Quote from: HighSix on April 19, 2012, 12:51:40 PM

would anyone take RG3 over Luck?

I would much rather have RG3 over Luck. Luck tailed off in the latter half of the season. He beat up on smaller teams and struggled against the better defenses. With RG3, I like the better package of speed and arm.

Canada Loves Anfield · « **Reply #15441 on:** April 19, 2012, 03:52:23 PM »

Quote from: HighSix on April 19, 2012, 12:51:40 PM

would anyone take RG3 over Luck?

Yup

Emlynevermore · « **Reply #15442 on:** April 19, 2012, 05:50:25 PM »

Quote from: skipper757 on April 18, 2012, 11:25:09 PM

It shouldn't come as a surprise though. The schedule is a fixed rotation. So the Patriots get 6 games from the 3 other AFC East teams so matter what. Then they play 4 games from one other AFC division, 4 games from one NFC division, and two teams from the other AFC divisions that finished in the same position.

So this year the AFC East gets the AFC South and NFC West. Since those two divisions aren't very strong, the AFC East teams have a perceived weaker schedule. The Patriots still have to play the winners of the AFC North and AFC West. The Ravens won the North and the Broncos won the West. Once again, it looks easier.

For the Giants, the NFC East gets the NFC South and the AFC North. In addition, since the G-Men won the division last year, they've got to play the winners of the other NFC divisions: Niners and Packers.

It's all rotational for the entire division except the two games against teams from the other two divisions from the same conference that finished in the same position. AFC East teams got a lucky draw this time around (or so it looks).

The NFL schedule is nothing surprising and nothing random. It's 100% planned. After a season is over, a team will immediately know every team it will play next year. In fact, a team will always know 14 of their 16 games for every season from here on out, unless there's some re-alignment of divisions or additions of teams.

I actually wished the schedules were 100% random. Then, I'd have more excuses as a Jets fan.

You make some interesting points and I learned some things I didn't know before. Thanks, you big killjoy.

Quote from: jerseyhoya on April 19, 2012, 06:07:00 AM

Schedule is backloaded. Again. I predict we'll start 5-2 and be a hot team and then 'collapse' to finish 9-7. Maybe make the playoffs, maybe not depending on how the league and division are. Coughlin just can't get his team to play in the second half of the season, and the Giants always fall apart. Except those two times he won the Super Bowl.

StevenLFC · « **Reply #15443 on:** April 19, 2012, 08:55:35 PM »

Quote from: HighSix on April 19, 2012, 12:51:40 PM

would anyone take RG3 over Luck?

Not at all. RG3 is a great QB no doubt, but Indy can't pass on Luck. He fits into the QB mould that they want. RG3 is a more dynamic player and I am sure that he will do great at Washington, but Indy should take Luck who has all the tools to be a superstar for years to come.

HighSix · « **Reply #15444 on:** April 20, 2012, 04:22:07 PM »

RG3 or Luck cant really lose!

See a kid (Mike Adams) had a positive combine drug test for weed. Crazy.

IndianaRed · « **Reply #15445 on:** April 20, 2012, 05:28:50 PM »

all you people who are saying you'd take rg3 over Luck are making me shit my pants

Canada Loves Anfield · « **Reply #15446 on:** April 20, 2012, 07:37:09 PM »

Quote from: IndianaRed on April 20, 2012, 05:28:50 PM

all you people who are saying you'd take rg3 over Luck are making me shit my pants

But rest assured, I know fuck all. I just think in the modern game when you have an athletic talent like that, who is such a good passer, you cant go wrong. Cam Newtown plus

HighSix · « **Reply #15447 on:** April 20, 2012, 07:57:02 PM »

Quote from: Canada Loves Anfield on April 20, 2012, 07:37:09 PM

But rest assured, I know fuck all. I just think in the modern game when you have an athletic talent like that, who is such a good passer, you cant go wrong. Cam Newtown plus

RG3 is super athletic but Luck I think had similar combine 40 as Newtown so has legs to go with passing ability.

Statto Red · « **Reply #15448 on:** April 21, 2012, 01:08:09 AM »

Theres talk that the Vikings might move to LA from 2013, if they don't get a new stadium in Minneapolis.

something awful · « **Reply #15449 on:** April 21, 2012, 02:13:13 AM »

Quote from: Statto Red on April 21, 2012, 01:08:09 AM

Theres talk that the Vikings might move to LA from 2013, if they don't get a new stadium in Minneapolis.

A lot of it is posturing. They want an awful lot of money from the local government for the new stadium.

Terry_Tibbs · « **Reply #15450 on:** April 21, 2012, 09:59:41 AM »

Quote from: Statto Red on April 21, 2012, 01:08:09 AM

Theres talk that the Vikings might move to LA from 2013, if they don't get a new stadium in Minneapolis.

The Minny Senate committee voted 8-6 on Friday to approve a public subsidy to help the Vikes build a new stadium which conveniently came just hours after Goodell & Rooneys visit to the state capital. It still doesn't guarantee a new stadium will be approved & built but it's a step forward following a set back earlier in the week which prompted the rise of the move to LA rumours.

Statto Red · « **Reply #15451 on:** April 21, 2012, 12:07:36 PM »

What's the next step in getting funding for the Vikings new stadium approved, i know this happens a lot in US Sports when a Franchise want a new stadium, but how likely given there history in Minny, would it be for the Vikings moving to another City?

Even when they were reaching the SBs, didn't the Rams & Raiders suffer from poor attendances during there stints in LA,?

Statto Red · « **Reply #15452 on:** April 25, 2012, 11:29:22 AM »

It's going from bad to worse for the Saints, as the FBI & State Police are jointly investigating allegations that the Saints set up the GMs booth at The Superdome, so they can listen to opposition Coaches. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7850441/louisiana-police-fbi-probing-alleged-eavesdropping-new-orleans-saints

StevenLFC · « **Reply #15453 on:** April 25, 2012, 12:28:47 PM »

It's official, the Colts have announced the news that everybody knew; they will draft Andrew Luck with their first pick.

TipTopKop · « **Reply #15454 on:** April 25, 2012, 01:02:04 PM »

Quote from: Statto Red on April 21, 2012, 12:07:36 PM

Even when they were reaching the SBs, didn't the Rams & Raiders suffer from poor attendances during there stints in LA,?

I know the Raiders did.

They were thrown into the Memorial coliseum with a promise of a new stadium that never came at the time, I think, and attendances were poor.

It's down to markets really; LA's a primarily a basketball one, sure, USC and UCLA enjoy some success, and the town is big enough to accomodate all kinds of sports (I actually would love it if the Raiders went back to La La Land), but I dunno, LA could show more commitment to bringing a team. That it's taking so long is no accident.

AEG wants a stake in any team that would come, and if LA only have AEG as the option to bring a team, then unless Anschutz changes his stance, this will take a while (if ever).

Terry_Tibbs · « **Reply #15455 on:** April 25, 2012, 11:04:02 PM »

Wrap him up in cotton wool Lions fans 'cause Megatron has just been announced as the 2012 recipient of the Madden curse!

something awful · « **Reply #15456 on:** April 25, 2012, 11:14:08 PM »

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Craigeth · « **Reply #15457 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:21:44 AM »

So the draft is tonight and the 1st 2 picks are a lock, the Vikings pick @ 3 will be very interesting anyone else think they might trade the 3rd pick?

Hope the Jets draft a WR in the 1st round we need some offensive weapons!

Will the Browns pick up or pass on Trent Richardson?

Can't wait! (Bart Scott Voice)

Fuzion6 · « **Reply #15458 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:32:09 AM »

Is the draft on the ESPN America channel in the UK tonight?

Craigeth · « **Reply #15459 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:35:32 AM »

Quote from: Fuzion6 on April 26, 2012, 10:32:09 AM

Is the draft on the ESPN America channel in the UK tonight?

As far as i'm aware I don't think it's on any UK TV.

I'm sure you can watch it on NFL.com though!

Starts 1am our time.

Fuzion6 · « **Reply #15460 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:36:38 AM »

Quote from: Craigeth on April 26, 2012, 10:35:32 AM

As far as i'm aware I don't think it's on any UK TV.

I'm sure you can watch it on NFL.com though!

Starts 1am our time.

Ah thanks...hmm 1am will be a struggle - I think it started a bit earlier last year? Have to say not followed the draft much this year, hopefully the Titans get some help on D or a speedy WR.

Kochevnik · « **Reply #15461 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:44:33 AM »

I think the Vikings would love to trade the pick, but probably won't find anyone to pay the price they want. They'll end up taking that OT, in all likelihood, even though they need CB help really badly.

It's a shame I don't live in the US any more. I always used to enjoy watching the draft for some perverse reason. Over/under on use of the word "upside" in ESPN's first round conversation, anyone?

HighSix · « **Reply #15462 on:** April 26, 2012, 11:59:13 AM »

The year Mike Mayock turned up on the day with out his voice was so funny!

Will be a bit different this year as no TV behind the scenes looking at whos on the phone, more suspense!

Old No7 · « **Reply #15463 on:** April 26, 2012, 12:00:50 PM »

Not on tv at all? Sky have shown it in the past & it was on ESPN last year.

I reckon the Vikings end up taking Kalil at 3, not normally many quality tackles around, will still be good corners to be had early in the 2nd round.

HighSix · « **Reply #15464 on:** April 26, 2012, 12:05:48 PM »

In the UK its on BBC Radio 5 Sports Extra tonight but cant see any TV over here so Nfl network or ESPN stream

StevenLFC · « **Reply #15465 on:** April 26, 2012, 12:21:14 PM »

I can't see anybody trading up to number 3, as there isn't really a stand out player to go that high & get. The Vikings will probably take Matt Kalil. The Browns could take a punt at Ryan Tannehill because Colt McCoy is awful, but I don't see them taking him, they'll probably go for Richardson, leaving Tannehill to go to the Dolphins.

Old No7 · « **Reply #15466 on:** April 26, 2012, 01:01:59 PM »

In defence of Colt McCoy he doesn't have much to work with. They should take Richardson at 4 & a reciever with the other 1st rounder. If McCoy is still pants then they have to find a QB next year

sidneyroughdiamond · « **Reply #15467 on:** April 26, 2012, 02:36:39 PM »

Quote from: HighSix on April 26, 2012, 12:05:48 PM

In the UK its on BBC Radio 5 Sports Extra tonight but cant see any TV over here so Nfl network or ESPN stream

Disgusting its not on tv over here. NFL's trying to grow the brand in th UK and Europe in general, faux pas.

Craigeth · « **Reply #15468 on:** April 26, 2012, 02:46:59 PM »

Quote from: Old No7 on April 26, 2012, 01:01:59 PM

In defence of Colt McCoy he doesn't have much to work with. They should take Richardson at 4 & a reciever with the other 1st rounder. If McCoy is still pants then they have to find a QB next year

I still cant believe the Browns didn't go all out to get the number 2 pick and get RG3 he would turn that whole franchise around IMO!

Emlynevermore · « **Reply #15469 on:** April 26, 2012, 03:23:05 PM »

Quote from: Craigeth on April 26, 2012, 10:21:44 AM

Hope the Jets draft a WR in the 1st round we need some offensive weapons!

I don't follow college football--go pro and then maybe I'll bother learning your name--but I keep hearing this is the deepest WR draft in years, possibly ever? Maybe it makes more sense to use that first rounder on one of the other need positions?

Off the top of my head, I count pass rusher, outside linebacker, safety, right tackle, and running back.

Thanks to Jerry Reese and Co., being a Giants fan is especially nice this time of year. They take care of depth in need positions via free agency and then draft raw talent that can be coached up to fit the system. Very little in the way of drama, which makes watching everyone else (well, almost) scramble all the more entertaining.

Peter King wrote an interesting piece about it in this week's SI:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1197596/1/index.htm

Pretty busy day for NY between the Draft, Game 7 for the Rangers at the Garden, and the last day of the NBA regular season.

Craigeth · « **Reply #15470 on:** April 26, 2012, 04:32:19 PM »

I can see Tannenbaum drafting Melvin Ingram in the 1st round but I don't think we should turn down the opportunity of taking Michael Floyd at WR!

gregor · « **Reply #15471 on:** April 26, 2012, 08:56:09 PM »

Don't really post in this thread and I'm not sure why. Bears fan here. I'd love Chandler Jones, the DE out of Syracuse but the way he's been going up boards in the last week or so I'm not even sure he'll be there at 19. If not him, then Nick Perry wouldn't be a bad choice.

I've been watching the buildup since 6pm on the NFL Network. You can subscribe to it here for a month for £2.99 - https://network.nfl.com/nfln/secure/packages - worth it IMO to get all the coverage this weekend.

Craigeth · « **Reply #15472 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:30:33 PM »

http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/49037/1/watch-nfl-network.html

NFL Network link

frag · « **Reply #15473 on:** April 26, 2012, 10:55:04 PM »

Anyone think Vikings actually going to trade their pick?

Craigeth · « **Reply #15474 on:** April 26, 2012, 11:03:55 PM »

Quote from: frag on April 26, 2012, 10:55:04 PM

Anyone think Vikings actually going to trade their pick?

It's been rumoured but I can't see them passing on Kalil now!

LiverLuke · « **Reply #15475 on:** April 27, 2012, 12:08:20 AM »

mate just told me vikings have traded pick to cleveland

frag · « **Reply #15476 on:** April 27, 2012, 12:11:34 AM »

Quote from: LiverLuke on April 27, 2012, 12:08:20 AM

mate just told me vikings have traded pick to cleveland

He is correct.

Craigeth · « **Reply #15477 on:** April 27, 2012, 12:16:43 AM »

Here we go! They gave up a 4th, 5th and 7th for ONE SPOT! They must have been worried Tampa were going to trade up for Richardson!

Some people saying Cleveland are looking at Blackmon!

frag · « **Reply #15478 on:** April 27, 2012, 12:19:40 AM »

Quote from: Craigeth on April 27, 2012, 12:16:43 AM

Here we go! They gave up a 4th, 5th and 7th for ONE SPOT! They must have been worried Tampa were going to trade up for Richardson!

Some people saying Cleveland are looking at Blackmon!

Trent Richardson is a cert for 3rd I think, interesting to see now what happens with Tampa and if Vikes move further back.

Emlynevermore · « **Reply #15479 on:** April 27, 2012, 12:33:08 AM »

Adam Schefter's hair situation concerns me. His head looks like a television.