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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7560 on: September 7, 2008, 09:20:57 PM »

Saw his interview on SSN and he reckons he's still on target to be world champion in 12 months time, don't think he's learnt a thing.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7561 on: September 7, 2008, 09:22:53 PM »
Not much discussion about the Katsidis fight I notice.
It's true to say that if Shankly had told us to invade Poland we'd be queuing up 10 deep all the way from Anfield to the Pier Head.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7562 on: September 7, 2008, 09:26:45 PM »
Not much discussion about the Katsidis fight I notice.
Haven't watched it yet.
Will download, will lament, but it's what we all knew would happen.

Also I couldn't resist peeking at who won, I'm weak.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7563 on: September 7, 2008, 09:29:57 PM »
Not much discussion about the Katsidis fight I notice.

It was gash, well it was from Kats anyway, trying to outbox Diaz was never going to beat him. How the fuck the scores were that close i'll never know, and as for the c*nt who had him winning by 4!!! I thought I was generous giving him a round.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7564 on: September 7, 2008, 09:31:00 PM »
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It's true to say that if Shankly had told us to invade Poland we'd be queuing up 10 deep all the way from Anfield to the Pier Head.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7565 on: September 7, 2008, 09:34:03 PM »
Don't follow boxing closely but I am so glad that he finally got knocked out. Arrogant little prick.

When is his next fight? Will be interesting to see how he responds when he's in the ring again.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7566 on: September 7, 2008, 09:54:36 PM »
Bloody £15 for that, glad the smarmy lil get got put where he deserved.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7567 on: September 7, 2008, 10:59:18 PM »
I still think the Limond knockdown was either a bit of a slip or a flash knockdown which is common in the lower weight divisions like I said and Gomez put Alex Arthur away badly a few years ago, Gomez could and still can bang imo but Alex came back to win a world title and I think off the top of my head that was his only loss until last night. Khans misfortune was to dangle his chin out in front of a real powerful puncher who was practically unknown outside his homeland. Its not an irreversible moment in his career, not by a long chalk. Up to the lad himself ultimately......



The Limond KD was not a flash knockdown! Khan was out on his feet and then all over the place when down.

See here: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=62lvnZGv6-o

The thing is, Limond was a tiny, tiny puncher (8 KOs) even in his native division - He was moving *up* against Khan and almost had him out! And Gomez is beyond shot nowadays and again - He had fought almost his entire career at a lower weight. Before those fights, he'd been hurt and put down (less heavily, but still put down) by a fighter with ONE knockout to his name.

It's hard to say if Prescott is a particularly big puncher because he's only really fought domestic level in Colombia and, in Amir Khan, against someone with probably the worst chin I've ever seen on a fighter who doesn't have a losing record.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7568 on: September 8, 2008, 12:02:33 AM »
Wasn't going to mention the Ramadan fasting Mirra and I'm glad that Khan isn't using it as an excuse (not yet anyway) but to be honest it would kind of fuck with your preparations wouldn't it? I mean having to eat at night time only whilst training all day and watching your weight. From reading his book not so long ago, Khan is a practising Muslim so in that case he will have had nothing to eat for 24 hours going into the ring!

That's wrong mate as Muslims do not have to fast if it interferes with how they earn there living or if they are ill & not eating will worsen their condition.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7569 on: September 8, 2008, 12:47:28 AM »
Degs I think thats interesting if Arthur moves up, hes totally dead at the weight, he looked drawn at the weigh in to me. I wouldnt mind seeing that but I think Arthur has enough about him to knock Khan out as well. One thing you cant train is your chin, you can do neck excercises and all that, but you cant train yourself to take punches. I dont know what happens when you get hit so hard you go down like that, I was lucky enough to be blessed with a great chin and never got put down or stopped. Khan is just unlucky to be cursed with one of the worst ive seen.

As you say, hes learned nothing from his 18 fights, hes just beat people up basically. Thats the problem with Fwanks style of "handling" fighters. They dont learn much. Khan is meant to be back on 6th December, itll be interesting to see what effects that has had on him. Of course it will be against another paper bag opponent, that Khan can get rid of inside 2 rounds to give him confidence, but whoever he fights now will be tempted to just say fuck it and go for it. If they can catch him, its over. Anyone has a chance when you have somebody with no resistance to a punch whatso ever.

Will there be any talk of a rematch with Prescott?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7570 on: September 8, 2008, 01:09:04 AM »
Will there be any talk of a rematch with Prescott?
Will there fuck.

Thing about Alex Arthur is he's just a good all rounder but excels nowhere.  It would make a very good fight I reckon because Arthur has been a natural lightweight for a while now and could find it difficult to drop people when he moves up a division.

He gives up halfway through fights, as showed again the other night with Nicky Cook.  He's in his corner shouting "Give me faith" to Wayne McCulloch.  Jesus isn't gonna help you Ally you have to go for it.

He seems a really nice lad and I think it'd be a good fight, but only because both of them are nothing special.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7571 on: September 8, 2008, 01:11:00 AM »

Will there be any talk of a rematch with Prescott?

Prescott says he would unsurprisingly! I'd say now though theres more chance of Paulie Malignaggi KO'ing James Toney at Heavyweight than a rematch happening.

Just reading an article with AAA saying he was robbed by the judges yesterday, what the fuck is he on? Robbery? Jesus fucking christ. I'd back him to KO Khan aswell, I see Fwank was talking about it but reckon that one will be avoided for a while.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7572 on: September 8, 2008, 01:20:21 AM »
Don't follow boxing closely but I am so glad that he finally got knocked out. Arrogant little prick.

When is his next fight? Will be interesting to see how he responds when he's in the ring again.

What total crap!

When has Khan demonstrated any arogance?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7573 on: September 8, 2008, 01:21:42 AM »
What total crap!

When has Khan demonstrated any arogance?
Whenever he opened his mouth.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7574 on: September 8, 2008, 01:23:04 AM »
What total crap!

When has Khan demonstrated any arogance?
Whenever he opened his mouth.

;D Something we can agree on then Degs

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7575 on: September 8, 2008, 01:28:08 AM »
Whenever he opened his mouth.
Errrrrr thats what boxings about mate!

Name me a boxer who doesn't talk a big game?

Now Prince Nassem was arogant
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7576 on: September 8, 2008, 01:32:03 AM »
What total crap!

When has Khan demonstrated any arogance?


Mate, the kid has fought nothing but bums for 4 years and thought he was on the verge of becoming world champion. After taking the biggest pasting I can remember seeing, having fought a real contender for the first time, he was knocked clean out the first real hungry and moderately talented boxer he met in the ring. And then this afternoon, less than 24 hours after what should have been the wake up call that could, if he listened to it, make him if he paid heed, this afternoon on SSN he said he still expects to be world champion in the next 12 months. If the kid's not being arrogant, he is motherfuckin' delusional. Which is it?


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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7577 on: September 8, 2008, 01:34:31 AM »
Errrrrr thats what boxings about mate!

Name me a boxer who doesn't talk a big game?

Now Prince Nassem was arogant
There is a difference between having self confidence in what you have achieved so far and having aims.
Then there is Amir Khan, off living in his own dream world.
Cloud Khan.

You're right alot of people talk a big game.  David Haye was saying in Liverpool only this week that he is going to fight 3 fighters, win, and take on Klitschko for the heavyweight title.  We listen and commend him for hit, but that's because he's the undisputed Cruiserweight world champion and the man we all think will become the next undisputed world heavyweight champion.

Now the likes of Amir Khan fights bums.  Has beens and nobodies.  And at the end of every fight he comes out and tells u all how he's going to be the youngest world champion ever, how he's a world class fighter, and even in defeat he has no humility. 

"In another two or three fights I'll be untouchable.”  was the one before the fight, and even after he says "I'm still a world class fighter".

He's fought bums for 4 years and then mouthed off after every victory like he's just decked Manny Pacquiao with one hand and Flloyd Mayweather with the other.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7578 on: September 8, 2008, 01:34:44 AM »
Delarrogant ?
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7579 on: September 8, 2008, 01:35:50 AM »
Hes just as delluded as Harrison if he thinks he will win a world title in 12months. Hes got no chance, anyone with half a brain would go away and put the flaws right, not Khan though. He'll beat up another couple of blown up featherweights and in his mind he will be back on track. I hope he learns from it, sadly hearing him talk I dont think he will.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7580 on: September 8, 2008, 01:36:14 AM »
Errrrrr thats what boxings about mate!

Name me a boxer who doesn't talk a big game?

Now Prince Nassem was arogant

You've gotta back up your words though if you're gonna dish it out. Theres no point declaring you're ready for Nate, Manny and everyone else then get starched by someone nobody has ever heard of. And incredibly hes still at it this morning "I'll be a world champion within a year" there is absolutely zero chance of that happening. He often comes across as a very decent fella and talking to the camera's this morning took balls but he wants to shut the fuck up with the "world champion" garbage for a bit.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7581 on: September 8, 2008, 01:38:36 AM »
Hes just as delluded as Harrison if he thinks he will win a world title in 12months. Hes got no chance, anyone with half a brain would go away and put the flaws right, not Khan though. He'll beat up another couple of blown up featherweights and in his mind he will be back on track. I hope he learns from it, sadly hearing him talk I dont think he will.
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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7582 on: September 8, 2008, 01:39:05 AM »
Imagine what a disaster it would be if he lost his next fight as well, I dont expect it to happen like, I think Fwank will put him in there with somebody who is no danger at all to him, but whoever he fights now must surely be tempted to go for it, and try to catch him bang on the chin. With his defence or lack of it, and after getting knocked to fuck like he just has been,anythings possible. What will happen to the Sky tv deal then? ;D

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7583 on: September 8, 2008, 01:41:01 AM »
I was pissing myself at Audley.

"I know I said it in '06, and '07 but '09 is the year for Audley Harrison"
:lmao

Third times a charm Fraudley.

;D I know mate, bless him. I find him funny, he travels around fighting a bum every now and then, then says he wants a world title this year. He gets humilated, then he comes back and repeats the process. Has there ever been a bigger joke than Audley in boxing?
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« Reply #7584 on: September 8, 2008, 01:41:50 AM »
They might offer Fewkes the chance again, he has zero power and lost the other night so he's probably perfect. Imagine if he got knocked out stone cold by him?!

On another note I'd like to see John Murray put in with this Prescott fella.

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« Reply #7585 on: September 8, 2008, 01:43:42 AM »
I was pissing myself at Audley.

"I know I said it in '06, and '07 but '09 is the year for Audley Harrison"
:lmao

Third times a charm Fraudley.

Fuck i missed that,did he realy say it with a straight face & does anyone have a link as it sounds like a contender for a British comedy award.
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« Reply #7586 on: September 8, 2008, 01:45:35 AM »
Fuck i missed that,did he realy say it with a straight face & does anyone have a link as it sounds like a contender for a British comedy award.
He really did.
I don't know what got the biggest laugh of the night in our house Khan getting knocked out or Audley and his "06, 07 but REALLY 09" talk.

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« Reply #7587 on: September 8, 2008, 01:51:29 AM »
They might offer Fewkes the chance again, he has zero power and lost the other night so he's probably perfect. Imagine if he got knocked out stone cold by him?!

On another note I'd like to see John Murray put in with this Prescott fella.

Ive heard a few people say that today, wouldnt mind seeing it to be honest.

Prescott is a hot property now, hes became a player in a good division, Ill be interested to see what he does next. People will ask though, is he really any good? Or is Khan really just that bad?

Ive been talking to me mate on msn and we were talking about these Olympic stars like Harrison & Khan. Its wrong the way they are brought into the game, Harrisons debut at pro was a main event. He was a celebrity, like Khan before they had actually done anything. Olympic medals are a good achievment, but it doesnt really mean that much in the pro game. How can the likes of these two fellas be hungry when they have already made a fair bit cash before doing anything of note? Marvin Hagler once said, its hard to get up and go running in the morning when you sleep on silk sheets. You've got to be hungry for it, I dont think Khan has ever been hungry, I think hes just assumed it will happen for him. I dont blame him for getting all the money and that, good luck to him. But I dont think its done him any favours, same with Harrison.

Remember when Audrey said he would win the British title within 10 fights or something daft like that? Totally disrespectful to the likes of Danny Williams who was the British champ at the time. I think Harrison made himself a million quid either before his pro debut, or just after it. Our media are desperate for a star, we dont know how to handle fighters, I think Bronx Red said it best, In America these people wouldnt be heard of. They'd have to work hard to get mentioned in the same breath as world title shot.
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« Reply #7588 on: September 8, 2008, 01:59:25 AM »
Ive heard a few people say that today, wouldnt mind seeing it to be honest.

Prescott is a hot property now, hes became a player in a good division, Ill be interested to see what he does next. People will ask though, is he really any good? Or is Khan really just that bad?

Ive been talking to me mate on msn and we were talking about these Olympic stars like Harrison & Khan. Its wrong the way they are brought into the game, Harrisons debut at pro was a main event. He was a celebrity, like Khan before they had actually done anything. Olympic medals are a good achievment, but it doesnt really mean that much in the pro game. How can the likes of these two fellas be hungry when they have already made a fair bit cash before doing anything of note? Marvin Hagler once said, its hard to get up and go running in the morning when you sleep on silk sheets. You've got to be hungry for it, I dont think Khan has ever been hungry, I think hes just assumed it will happen for him. I dont blame him for getting all the money and that, good luck to him. But I dont think its done him any favours, same with Harrison.

Remember when Audrey said he would win the British title within 10 fights or something daft like that? Totally disrespectful to the likes of Danny Williams who was the British champ at the time. I think Harrison made himself a million quid either before his pro debut, or just after it. Our media are desperate for a star, we dont know how to handle fighters, I think Bronx Red said it best, In America these people wouldnt be heard of. They'd have to work hard to get mentioned in the same breath as world title shot.

Yeah thats what im wondering aswell, is he actually good or was he just the guy in the right place at the right time who delivered the inevitable KO.

You're spot on with the rest aswell, it's a sad state of affairs really. Harrison especially is an absolute embarassment.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7589 on: September 8, 2008, 02:04:56 AM »
Ive heard a few people say that today, wouldnt mind seeing it to be honest.

Prescott is a hot property now, hes became a player in a good division, Ill be interested to see what he does next. People will ask though, is he really any good? Or is Khan really just that bad?

Ive been talking to me mate on msn and we were talking about these Olympic stars like Harrison & Khan. Its wrong the way they are brought into the game, Harrisons debut at pro was a main event. He was a celebrity, like Khan before they had actually done anything. Olympic medals are a good achievment, but it doesnt really mean that much in the pro game. How can the likes of these two fellas be hungry when they have already made a fair bit cash before doing anything of note? Marvin Hagler once said, its hard to get up and go running in the morning when you sleep on silk sheets. You've got to be hungry for it, I dont think Khan has ever been hungry, I think hes just assumed it will happen for him. I dont blame him for getting all the money and that, good luck to him. But I dont think its done him any favours, same with Harrison.

Remember when Audrey said he would win the British title within 10 fights or something daft like that? Totally disrespectful to the likes of Danny Williams who was the British champ at the time. I think Harrison made himself a million quid either before his pro debut, or just after it. Our media are desperate for a star, we dont know how to handle fighters, I think Bronx Red said it best, In America these people wouldnt be heard of. They'd have to work hard to get mentioned in the same breath as world title shot.

Spot on that, time our media stoped wanking everytime a uk fighter wins a debut fight and call him the next big thing, it;s not only in boxing though our media do it , there a joke alround

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7590 on: September 8, 2008, 03:37:33 AM »
That doesn't say much though does it?

I don't think he has the chin. He almost got knocked out by that French cruiser whose name escapes me and if Enzo had connected he would have knocked him out.

Carl Thompson was the only fight where I thought Haye got it as wrong as Amir did last satday night. Haye learnt from that mistake and came back stronger and more determined; with a slightly higher Left hand, and more experience NOT to go rushing in like a idiot.

Thompson taught him a lesson that night in a big way. Questions still remain about Hayes chin (despite now moving up), but the key is that he tries not to get caught with flash roundhouses, or uppers like Amir did. Haye has got far too much power to be anything other than worldclass, Crusier and Heavy. I hope he gets the Klitscho fight eventually, now THAT is a fight I would pay to see.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7591 on: September 8, 2008, 07:16:14 AM »
Bollocks as far as you are concerned but not not where I am concerned. It has nothing to do with being Welsh. I know that Enzo got knocked out but I think that fight could have gone either way. It was always going to a case of who connected first.

Like I said, that is my opinion of him. I know he is much better and much less hype than Khan but I am not convinced by him. 
I wait to be proved wrong and will admit it if proved so.

Stick around mate, the more people posting here the better but you basically dismissed Haye, Klitscho and Mormeck in one post with nothing to back it up and you still haven't

That's why I said it was bollocks

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« Reply #7592 on: September 8, 2008, 08:07:06 AM »
Stick around mate, the more people posting here the better but you basically dismissed Haye, Klitscho and Mormeck in one post with nothing to back it up and you still haven't

That's why I said it was bollocks

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« Reply #7594 on: September 8, 2008, 10:23:51 AM »
Oh right.

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« Reply #7595 on: September 8, 2008, 10:41:01 AM »
So you have no response basically?!

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7596 on: September 8, 2008, 11:32:57 AM »
Does anyone know a good place to buy the Ward Gatti trilogy? Plus any other top top fights you might want to recommend as battles or just cracking fights for whatever reason.

Thanks in advance.
Barrera/Morales fights were some of the best fights ever.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7597 on: September 8, 2008, 12:33:20 PM »
Barrera/Morales fights were some of the best fights ever.

Nigel Benn - Gerald McLellan = Wow

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7598 on: September 8, 2008, 12:35:35 PM »
Also the Marquez/Vasquez trilogy of recent years.

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Re: Boxing thread
« Reply #7599 on: September 8, 2008, 12:57:34 PM »
I was pissing myself at Audley.

"I know I said it in '06, and '07 but '09 is the year for Audley Harrison"
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Third times a charm Fraudley.

i know it wont happen, but i would love to see haye finish off fraudley once and for all