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Well it's official, Danny will never trust the kop
« on: January 24, 2002, 03:31:50 AM »
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Just got done reading the piece on Danny boy from soccernet. It is evident by reading his quotes that a)what we percieved as his reaction to the boo'ing c*nts was totally below the mark. People saying that it would help him and push him on..It nearly fecking destroyed the lad! The only thing that helped him rise above it was the inpiration recieved from his friends story who's daughter was killed. But regardless Danny Murphy will never trust the Kop again. He will never feel one with the Reds fans, and now by reading what he has to say it is only so obvious that he holds us in a lower regard. This quote specifically hit home.

"'In football these days, you can be the hero one minute and villain the next. But hopefully the fans will have a certain fondness for me now after another winning goal against United.'"

He has lost all hope for us to be on his side through thick and thin. He now is basically publically admitting that he percieves us as fairweather fans, and is not ever again going to rely on our support in the tough times cause he obviously doesn't think we have the class.

Another quote that should go on the walls of every Reds fan..

"That's a shame, because we want Anfield to be a place where we can go out and intimidate teams, not feel intimidated ourselves."

:no: :no: :no: Where are those wankers who said real fans boo, and that by doing so we spur on the team now..........

Such a class act Danny is, he ain't the most mentally tough lad in the sport, but he makes up for it when it counts by picking his head up and facing his challenges head on! He is the definition of "Walk on, Walk on!". It's to bad the boo birds can't be the same, cause now despite having such a class player as Murphy he will never be one with the Kop again.

I wish there was some way we could let him know that the boo birds are the minority and that the majority were outraged and disgusted at the boo'ing.
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2002, 06:05:46 AM »
...and to think that some (not all) of the boo merchants were clapping themselves on the back by claiming that their booing actually spurred the reds into action. Twats as if...!  :no:
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2002, 10:33:12 AM »
The boo boys will say they woke the team up, made them realise how badly they've been playing, rubbish!!  Booing isnt acceptable, we are Liverpool fans and above that kind of rubbish, I have no time or respect for anyone that voted yes for the booing in the Official site poll. I've wiped worse from my boots!
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2002, 12:13:47 PM »
Well i truly hope all the tossers on this site and the ones who booed him at the match feel ashamed of themselves after reading that article.

I have always maintained Danny is a class act, and when the midfield click he is integral, cos he gets some bloody goals!

So to all those who booed him and slagged him on this site and others

:upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:

Ahh that feels better
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2002, 12:33:44 PM »
I think the best way is to sing his name at the top of our voices at the next couple, or in reality it should be all games for all players, games to show him we still believe in him.
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2002, 02:37:11 PM »
I saw the interview he gave with Sky before the game on Tuesday and Danny looked fucking awfull. By the look of the black bags under his eyes, I doubt he had slept very well between Sat and Tues and that in my opinion is down to the so called supporters (you are meant to support, that's what the word fuckin means)cheering/jeering him off on Saturday.

DM was my MOM on Tues, I thought he was immense.

I bet there weren't any boo boys booing him after his goal were there, so as the song goes, "When your dreams be tossed and blown". So to the boo boys I say this: Engage the grey matter in your head before opening you big fucking stupid mouths!

Rant over

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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2002, 03:15:38 PM »
Theres a lot of reading between the lines there JayWay. Lets face it, footballers aren't known for hiding cryptic messages in their interviews. They dish out the same cliched responses for the same banal quesitonas they get asked week after week.

However, if he's fucked off with us then its understandable. I was gutted to hear how was treated last weekend and this is coming from a fan who does not believe Danny is the long term future of our m/f. I rate his skills but have serious worries over his consistency. He's been up and down in form for the last year now.

I may not be his biggest fan but theres no way he has ever deserved what he got last week, that was shameful.
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2002, 04:08:50 PM »
Gareth, i am glad to hear you disagree with the booing - but i cant believe u dont rate Danny as a long term propect.

Take last season, 10 goals from midfield - now thats not bad in my book.  this season he has dipped, but i would argue that the entire midfield has lost the plot creatively.

yes Danny misses the odd pass, but for every pass he may misplace there is a good bit of tracking or a great bit of off the ball running.

Not arguing with you mate, just think Danny is a great (yes fuckin GREAT!!!!) player. And i have done for a good while, not just since tuesday
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2002, 04:56:07 PM »
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People saying that it would help him and push him on..It nearly fecking destroyed the lad!


If a full grown man can't handle a little bit of stick ...
Jesus Christ ! Are we talking about a little girl or something ! Point taken, it's not nice to boo people but this is insane ! Grow up !
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2002, 05:03:00 PM »
I've said before on here somewhere or other, that I'm unable to go to games for financial reasons.  Otherwise, I'd be there to give my whole hearted support to the TEAM.  Notice, I said TEAM.  I know that we are a group of individuals that make up a TEAM, but it is the TEAM who wins and loses games.  Not just one player.

I read the Soccernet article myself last night, and was quite shocked to read that it was his old pal Jason Euell's recent personal tragedy that had had such an overwhelming affect on him.  Also the fact that Jason had sent him a congratulatory text message after the game, I thought was a very nice gesture.

I also saw the interview on Sky prior to the game, and Danny really didn't look too healthy.  He was wonderfully articulate and humbling in that interview.  Presented a very philosophical approach to his recent predicament.

It strikes me as nothing short of amazing that fans forget that these guys are human like you and I.  Everyone reacts to personal criticism/abuse in different ways.  Others may have capitulated under that kind of pressure.  I'm just so pleased that Danny had the balls to find some strength from it, and produce what he did on Tuesday night.

Thanks NIred, you took the words right out of my mouth regarding what Danny achieved last season.  He scored a commendable 10 goals from midfield.  He's scored 5 so far this.  Ok, his dip in form has come at a critical time, but the midfield's been suffering as a whole.  I can also agree with his passing being a bit astray at times but, like you said, he more than makes up for that with his coverage of the field tracking back in order to aid the marking of players etc.

He's produced some cracking performances on occasion this season, but folk fail to see that.  It's because they've become so blinkered in their view of him.  I don't see any other player in the TEAM being criticised in the same manner that Danny's had to tolerate.  It's simply unacceptable.

I'm hoping that after our win on Tuesday, that the TEAM will be able to take something from that, and move forward.

For fucks sake, I know it's fucking hard when your paying your hard earned cash to go and support the TEAM home and away, and things aren't going right.  This may sound pretty stupid, but you should feel a sense of priviledge, that you're able to do just that, 'cos there are 1000's who can't do what you do but I'm sure would love to.  I'm one of them.  Believe you me, I hate it that I have to rely on all of you to get behind the lads at every game, and give them the kind of support that they deserve, but unfortunately, that's the way it is for me.  As a Betty Armchair, I find it sole destroying that I can't feel what you are feeling, or express my love for the lads at a game.

Danny needs your support badly, and I think it's time you showed it.  But, overall, it's the TEAM that needs it.

Walk on Danny!!!!
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2002, 05:21:49 PM »
To me, the main point is we are Liverpool supporters, and we do not boo our team or a player who's trying his level best for the team!

No doubt the boo boys think that they are doing the team a favour in their own twisted way of thinking, but that is not the way we, as Liverpool FC supporters should act!! We are supposed to have more class than that.  You'll Never Walk Alone is our anthem, we should know what it means when we sing it!

Unfortunately, these days, this is not the case anymore.  I wonder how many of 'supporters' these days who go to matches really know the lyrics?  I also wonder how many people really knows what it means to support a team like Liverpool.

Despite after 27 or so years of supporting Liverpol, through this website, I continue to learn what it means to support Liverpool.  My sincere thanks and gratitude to people like Bob-K, Mottman, Goldenbrown, Homesick & Wooltonian. There are others (Pheeny, Red Kiwi, who has never ever been to a match...the list goes on), and I apologise for not mentioning all of you.  I even learn from the 'younger' fans such as TheKid, S@H, and Curly.  Thank you all.

But one thing is clear.  As Liverpool supporters, we do not boo our team, no matter if you think you are doing the team a favour!
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2002, 06:12:21 PM »
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Despite after 27 or so years of supporting Liverpol, through this website, I continue to learn what it means to support Liverpool.  My sincere thanks and gratitude to people like Bob-K, Mottman, Goldenbrown, Homesick & Wooltonian. There are others (Pheeny, Red Kiwi, who has never ever been to a match...the list goes on), and I apologise for not mentioning all of you.  I even learn from the 'younger' fans such as TheKid, S@H, and Curly.  Thank you all.

But one thing is clear.  As Liverpool supporters, we do not boo our team, no matter if you think you are doing the team a favour!


I couldn't have put that any better myself.  Those mentioned and not mentioned above (Eli) have taught me a lot about supporting the Reds, and I'm sure will continue to do so.
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2002, 06:27:56 PM »
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...and to think that some (not all) of the boo merchants were clapping themselves on the back by claiming that their booing actually spurred the reds into action. Twats as if...!  :no:


I'll tell you what spurred the lads into action. The vocal support they got before during and after the game. That is the only way we can help spur the lads on, so lets continue with it and drown the boo boys out
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2002, 06:44:13 PM »
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That is the only way we can help spur the lads on, so lets continue with it and drown the boo boys out
You know what is really distressing?  We seem to be in the minority.  :(  However, if we managed to drown out the Mancs at Old Trafford with only 3,000, it's possible to do it at Anfield too!

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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2002, 07:22:08 PM »
looks like GH had a talk with Danny before the game on Tuesday after hearing about what happened v's Southampton.

http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0500liverpoolfc/0100news/page.cfm?objectid=11564164&method=full
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2002, 07:47:04 PM »
It's a pity he couldn't do it every game.  Just goes to prove what a motivator GH is and, that his presence in the changing room has been sadly missed by the team as well.
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2002, 03:01:10 AM »
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"I obviously wasn't happy last Saturday and I was upset about the reaction, but it was only a minority."



It appears he knows it's only a minority of wankers.

Strikes me that booing their own players is something that only Chelsea or Spurs fans do - so why are Liverpool fans doing it? And can someone tell me if we've always boo-ed our own player if they are having a bad time, and if not, when did it start?

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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2002, 01:55:32 PM »
Taken from today's Mirror article by Brian Reade.

Look at Liverpool. The stick stand-in boss Phil Thompson has taken from outsiders is understandable because there is no better sight than a big club sinking like a sack of cement. But for this man to be criticised as he has been by some of his own, on TV and radio phone-ins, beggars belief.

Any Liverpool fan who felt last year's treble was a guarantee of this year's Premiership was deluding himself on a criminal scale. Even with Gerard Houllier in charge, to be two points off the top and in the second phase of the Champions League in January would have been seen as progresss. To be in that position with a deputy in charge for three months, having endured such an appalling patch of bad form, is a great achievement.

Unless of course you happen to be one of a new breed who believes paying £27 gives you the right to demand perfection every game.

Someone who believes the best way to help your team reach perfection is to single out young, honest, local lads like Jamie Carragher and Danny Murphy and bawl obscenities at them, simply because your squad's inadequacies have been sussed out by mediocre opposition and the manager is not around to sort it out.The cheering of Murphy when he was substituted last Saturday was possibly the most shameful sound I have heard in 38 years of visiting Anfield. Which made his goal against United on Tuesday one of the sweetest I have ever seen.

Fans have every right to criticise their club however they want. But singling out good players who are having a bad patch and hounding them off the pitch, or demanding the head of a good manager who has made a couple of bad decisions, should be an alien concept to anyone who loves their team.

For seven long years under Bill Shankly I watched Liverpool win nothing. Yet I can't remember any player getting singled out for mass vocal criticism. Was it because, in those pre-Thatcher days, we only paid four shillings to enter the ground so didn't believe we'd bought a divine free-market right to success?

Or was it that more people realised that the first responsibility of a supporter is to support. To pull your team to pieces in private, but while they're out on the pitch to save your moans for the soggy pies and even soggier trousers?

'Appier days indeed.
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2002, 12:03:57 PM »
SAD BUT VERY TRUE !
The KOP owe him a marvellous reception next home game.
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2002, 02:50:39 PM »
Well, he'll get one from me anf Mrs Pat. but we're in the Anny Road.
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #20 on: February 1, 2002, 09:57:13 PM »
Dannys bad performance against southampton, and his heroics against Manure were a great example or YNWA.

As the song says:

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When you walk, through a storm
Hold your head, up high


This means that while bad things may be happening, keep your head up, look at the bright side and have faith

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Cause at the end, of a storm
Theres a golden sky


Meaning that at the end of something bad, there will be something good. So whilst danny may have played bad against s'hampton, something good eventually came (against Manure)

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Walk on, through the rain,
walk on, through the wind


Meaning that you have to just bear with the bad times, and just go through them. Danny played awful,we have to learn to just accept it, and get on with things, rather than do something we'll probably get (booing).

Think about it, when we're playing badly, thats when the team need our support the most. When playing well, the team could probably ride on momentum and their own success, which is when people mostly give support. But when playing bad, they need our support, to give them a lift, which is sadly, when some (not all) people decide not to give support and boo!!!

Yes i think liverpool played awful against southampton, and yes i was discusted. But me and treble2001, perhaps him more than me, were the only ones clapping in our section. Not many were booing, but hardly any were clapping.

As I said in another topic, most of the boo boys were the people who came to anfield for their only game of the year, and saw the team play rubbish, realises that they won't see the team play for another year, realised that the team didn't play well on the peoples only game of the year, so decided to boo. I mean, i don't get to anfield nowhere near as often as most liverpool fans do. I only get to about 6-8 games a season at the most, i think 8 was the most, and 2 was the least. So far this season, i've been 6 times. So i would certainly like to get to more games, but i'm only 14, still at school, and live 3-4 hours away, so theres not much can be done about it at the moment. But when i do manage to get to anfield, like i did against southampton, i never boo, i wouldn't dream of it. If we lost 5-0, the posession went 80% - 20% against us, we only had 2 shots on goal, none on target, only played one up front, only 8% of the game was in the final third, all the worst things that could happen, yes, i would be utterly discusted, but i wouldn't boo. I doubt, on an occasion like that, that i would clap either, but i wouln't boo.

The reason i don't understand booing, is that people willingly pay £22 - £27 to get in the ground, they don't have to, but they want to. And then when they don't like what they see, they boo and jeer. My message to those people are "If you don't like what you see, fine. But if you want to boo and jeer about it, go away and don't come back!!"  I would rather have a half full ground with everyone appriciative of the team and no booing, than a capacity crowd with 1,000 - 2,000 people booing, it's unacceptable. So please, all the people that booed at that game, if you want to feel welcome at anfield, if you want respect of people, join the majority rather than the minority, and please don't boo!!

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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #21 on: February 2, 2002, 07:42:41 PM »
Great anthems, like Ours, do not require translation.

The words speak for themselves.
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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #22 on: February 2, 2002, 07:54:47 PM »
A Liverpool player deserves nothing but support & even more so when he's not playing well!

But I guess this is too much like common sense for some wankers!

Even Papa smurf deserves our full support! ;D



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Re: Well it's official, Danny will never trust the
« Reply #23 on: February 2, 2002, 09:22:35 PM »
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Great anthems, like Ours, do not require translation.

The words speak for themselves.


I know, i just felt the need to put the explanations in plain english for the sake of my post.
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