Topic: Tactics for Chelsea

[Gee, Stevie]

Ok, I know its not for two weeks, and there's some huge games for us to play before then, but what do you guys see as the critical things we need to do against Chelsea - particularly thr first leg.  Obviously, the tactics for the second leg will be to a large extent dictated by the result in the first leg at Stamford Bridge. 

We've seen we can keep the likes of Juventus quiet for virtually an entire game (in temrs of goal scoring opportunities).  But, with the first leg away, we need something from the game at Stamford Bridge.   From the Carling CUp final, and last night, I don't think we will be overawed by having to keep a side out for most of an entire game (Gerrard own goals aside).  The key is getting ourselves in a situation where Chelsea need to come at us and score. 

If at Anfield, we are in a position where we need to score 1, maybe 2 goals, we will need to come at CHelsea, and thats where we play into their hands and I'm afraid will come undone. 

A draw in the first leg (at least) is critical.  OK - maybe more discussions closer to the big night(s)

[Ken-Obi]

Now that he didn't play yesterday, he's crafting tactics for Chelsea??
I guess the deal is done then?

[jfpower]

score more goals than the bastards and keep fat frank away from Xabi.

[Forbsie]

score more goals than the bastards and keep fat frank away from Xabi.

I'll go with these tactics 

[gerry7]

where would they be now if it was fat frank who was out for the last 3.5 months.

[cakmin]

Should Rafa play the mind games this time? Come on Rafa, gun them down!!!

On another matter, with the way we play in Europe in this season's CL, do you consider our style as more European than Chelsea? We seem to 'click' and play well in Europe but not often in Premiership. Now we're playing Chelsea, how do we have to approach the game? Premiership style? Or European style?

[bryanod]

break big fat frankies ankle and let gerrard score a hattrick.......

as for the euro style thing i think europe suits us cause we have some players who are too light weight for the prem, luis, nunez, TLT for example. it's euro style game cause two legs and when we score those away goals they'll panic!!

[torben-picnic]

I honestly reckon the team will that up for this one that Rafa will
have the easiest team talk ever and just let them loose!

down there it will be a cracking end to end game
but up here we will just hit em like we did Juve in the 1st half
last week and as long as someone sticks a big fat hairy boot
up fat franks arse I'll be a happy man
 

[Notayesman]

I agree, for some reason I think we're gonna turn them over. We've been close in the 3 games this season and were hard done by on more than one occasion. Its set up for us. The only drawback is that we've shown ourselves to be more content against European opposition, this is just another PL game really. Can't wait.

[gramck24]

Ok, I know its not for two weeks, and there's some huge games for us to play before then, but what do you guys see as the critical things we need to do against Chelsea - particularly thr first leg.  Obviously, the tactics for the second leg will be to a large extent dictated by the result in the first leg at Stamford Bridge. 

We've seen we can keep the likes of Juventus quiet for virtually an entire game (in temrs of goal scoring opportunities).  But, with the first leg away, we need something from the game at Stamford Bridge.   From the Carling CUp final, and last night, I don't think we will be overawed by having to keep a side out for most of an entire game (Gerrard own goals aside).  The key is getting ourselves in a situation where Chelsea need to come at us and score. 

If at Anfield, we are in a position where we need to score 1, maybe 2 goals, we will need to come at CHelsea, and thats where we play into their hands and I'm afraid will come undone. 

A draw in the first leg (at least) is critical.  OK - maybe more discussions closer to the big night(s)

Score more goals than them 

[_CarraMac_]

Just picked this up from a Chelsea forum...........

Make no mistake, Liverpool will be well up for this one. They hate us with a passion - Lampard breaking Alonso's ankle, the links with Gerrard, the Tiago handball, the League Cup final, and most importantly us being more successful than them.

...........the last nine words made me smile     LINK

[gerry7]

I was having a look at some of there forums myself.Most of them dont fancy playing us from what ive read

[ewok-red]

score more goals than the bastards and keep fat frank away from Xabi.

that sounds fine. then we C.T.C. (clatter the c*nts)

[GoonerD]

As a german gooner (probably double hated for that on this forum , I wish Liverpool all the best luck to kick the blue c**ts from Stamford bridge out of the CL.

Do the footballing-world a favor - please !

[Gee, Stevie]

will do - consider it done

[PaulF]

We need one exceptional half out of the four we will play and to frustrate them for the other three.
I reckon we'll come away from the bridge with a draw and play a stunning first half at Anfield. The second half will be another nail biting finish.....

Tactically, Rafa has to make sure we are in it when they come to Anfield.  I can see him using a 4-5-1 of Finnan , Hyppia, Carra, Trajore, Riise Hamman Gerrard , Alonso , Garcia and Baros.  With the recent performances and hopefully an injury clear run that team almost picks itself now, although Nunez/Biscan will be 'possibilities' instead of Hamann, in which case Garcia is in behind Baros, instead of Gerrard.

Only minor changes from that are needed for the Anfield leg where the same personnel can come out and play totally differently.

What does impress me is that even with all the injuries and what not, it is usually obvious who the best XI are and that therefore they are a settled XI. When a suprise is needed though Rafa can pull out some good ones (the starting line up against Juve at Anfield)

P

[anfield_reds]

2 up front is all I can say and hope for. If we manage to grab a goal (or two who knows?) at the Bridge, it would be a huge step towards the final.

I think that one of the only way to cause them trouble is to play on the flanks. Good wingers will be needed : players who can combine well on the wings and who can cross the ball really well. Garcia+Finnan on the right... I'm sure they can beat Gallas whose much better at CB than LB imo. We'll have to create danger from the wings.

Not sure if Cissé will be fit enough to start a game by then, if not, I'd go for Le Tallec to partner Milan. But 4-4-2 all the way Rafa, ok?

[baz]

I just pray to God we dont get any more injuries now. With more possibilities it will leave Maureen and the Chelskum guessing, unlike in Cardiff.

I really want us to do this, as does most of the footballing world. I think we should play to get an away goal at the bridge, so we dont have to worry too much about them getting one at Anfield (although if they dont it'll be even better). I dont see why we cant nick a win at the bridge. We almost managed yesterday. So Chelskum wont be too comfortable playing us.

We just have to make sure that the concentration is 110% in both legs and not make any individual errors. Stating the obvious really.

We are Liverpool FC. Our time has come.
Come on you Mighty Reds!

[Hugh]

Gerrard to score 5 goals in both legs. Carra to take out Frank. Mourinho to get twatted by Pako.

Could not be simpler.

[pinky]

Gerrard to score 5 goals in both legs. Carra to take out Frank. Mourinho to get twatted by Pako.

Could not be simpler.

Lol... Just wondering why Pako?

[Col]

Gerrard to score 5 goals in both legs. Carra to take out Frank. Mourinho to get twatted by Pako.

Could not be simpler.

[sangria hero]

Lol... Just wondering why Pako?

So Rafa's calm and collected image (and his nice, clean suit) won't be ruined by the dirty Mourinho, possibly? Lol. Makes Pako sound like one of those henchmen or something. 

[DonkeyWan]

Xabi and Gerrard to bust Lampard in the first five mins (dirty cheating bastid) thankfully we will have high quality Euro refs, not English "play on, the dago is faking it, good tackle fat Frank, whoops, I'm on TV, here's a token yellow card "

[Dowling10]

Re: Tactics for Chelsea
« Reply #18 on: Today at 05:23:37 PM »   

Gerrard to score 5 goals in both legs. Carra to take out Frank. Mourinho to get twatted by Pako.

Could not be simpler.

Just not Carra getting a yellow would do me

[Dowling10]

all the others is sound

[wacko]

I think Rafa will concentrate on the wings. It's where their most dangerous players are (I think our CM has the class to contain Fat Frank) and it's where their weakest players are. Gallas is not particularly effective at LB and, fingers crossed, either Johnson or Huth will be at RB. The former is a shit defender and the latter is a lumbering CB. In an ideal world, Fat Frank and Terry will pick up injuries which will put them out of the game. Even better, a red card for one of the above early on in the 1st leg.

[JonnyCigarettes®]

Senor Hugh,

You know too much.

[Throxenby]

uefa are setting the tactics for this one

one competant ref and they are in trouble.
the rest is incidental

[Red in Korea]

uefa are setting the tactics for this one

one competant ref and they are in trouble.
the rest is incidental

 

[baz]

We need to get a goal at the bridge. And judging by the Chels kums two previous CL games we can do that. Get a goal (or two) and keep it tight. Bring them back to Fortress Anfield and make it one of the best European nights ever.

I was watching highlights of the CC Final. All three of the Chels kums goals were lucky or /and mistakes. The first everyone knows about. The second was a complete defensive mess up. And the third, well i think Dudek should have managed to hold on to it.

So we'll have to be totally focused in both legs. I'm sure we can do this. And if you look at Rafas face when we pulled it back to 3-2 you know that he wanted this win more than anything.

I'm so glad that he's got another chance. Come on Liverpool.
Ten days to go and i''m already excited about this one.

Mind, we have a job to do at Pompeii and the Palace before then.
Come on you Reds, make it a fabulous end to an extremely difficult season.

[codger]

1.  Buy large bus
2. Park in front of goal at the Bridge
3. Wait for the usual squeals of outrage from Jose
4. Laugh
5. Work out how to score another goal like the opener in Cardiff
6. Try not to give away any soft goals (Right, Stevie?)

Sorted

[tim makaveli]

arrogant f'n lot. we'll be up for it because it's the european cup semi final, not because it's against those fucking bastards.

[cowtownred]

Tactics for the first leg will depend a lot on whether Robben plays or not.
I hope he does, because I think Finnan and Traore are well up to handling their attack if they try and play with width. I'd be more concerned if they try and play a direct long ball game to be honest.  Most of their goals against us this season have been high balls into the box, relying on the direct header, or winning the knockdowns on the edge of the box.  Mourinho will also have noted our aerial weaknesses against Juve when (failing) defending the back stick, Cannavaro in both games.
I expect though that we will try and play a more pacy counter attacking game away than we did against Juve.  I expect to see Biscan and Alonso play in front of the back 4,  Riise and Nunez/Garcia on flanks, and Gerrard support either Baros or Cisse.

At home I think we will play exactly as against Juve at home. Try to take advantage of a very loud 12th man, and go for the throat from the off.  Cisse and Baros up front,  Garcia and perhaps Kewell wide, Gerrard and Alonso in the centre.

Predict a 1-1, or 1-2 away, and 2-0 at home. 

[notyouraverage]

Can't wait. The reception chelsea are goign to get at anfield will be one to remember

[Dangerous Dave]

can't fucking wait. should be a classic tie. not that confident to be honest, but i live in hope.

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                         Dudek

Finnan   Carragher   Hyypia   Traore

         Biscan   Alonso  Gerrard

 Garcia                                    Riise

                        Baros
 

[Dangerous Dave]

well that looks shite, but you get the general idea

[mr_mad_master]

cisse first start at anfield?

[-Gianni-]

Predict a 1-1, or 1-2 away, and 2-0 at home. 

Thats what you call being optomistic!

[Kop4]

Get that 'Money can't buy you love' banner printed as large as possible so Abramovic sees it, gets a paddy on, sells all the players and buggers off back to Moscow before kick-off with all Chelsea's money in a big plastic bin bag.

Easy.

[baz]

Predict a 1-1, or 1-2 away, and 2-0 at home

Thats what you call positive thinking! Come on you Mighty Reds.
If we put our foot down and play to the top of our game we'll get through.

They have a top goalkeeper, but hes let in goals recently.
Terry and Gallas are good.
Makelele is a top notch holding midfielder.
And there two wide players from duff/robben/cole are good.

But we have our own class players.. Carra, Sami, Xabi, Stevie G, Cisse, Baros, Garcia...
so we should be able to give them a good game.

The only thing is that they too will be up for it and well aware of the havoc that Liverpool can potentially create. So maybe they'll play a more calculated game. Who cares. Over the two legs we'll beat them.

Fat Frank wont get near our players again.