So Gnurg the implication is that we don't have the players to defeat 451?
Thats a bit of a blow given every team is going to play it against us and quite right seeing we can't beat it.
I agree with the centreback idea - a CB who can bring the ball out, can unbalance the play and give us an advantage - we don't have one of them although Carra is trying, under instructions from Rafa no doubt
Still leaves us the problem of 442 without the right players or 451 and hope we get the breaks.
I'd rather we were in control of our own destiny - my personal preference is 442 with a wide left player who can go past people (Thompson, Heighway, Barnes, Giggs, Pires, Kewell?) and a wide right player who works their nuts off (Callaghan, Lee, Hall, Case, Johnstone, Houghton, Beckham, Ljundberg), helps the central midfielders and provides a threat up front just by virtue of their work rate. In the modern game SWP, Malbranque and Owen Hargreaves could all do this job imo.
And left wing that Vicente bloke at Valencia would do for me. The problem is we don't have either type of player available now.
The closest we have is Riise hardworking on the left and Kewell or Garcia on the right. To get technical this does not work as well - right footed players play the ball more quickly and more acurately to the left than the right - this means a quick left winger receives the ball quicker, it also means the right footed forward get the ball coming onto the right foot - these might just be fractional advantages but its why LFC have always done best with this formation imo. Hope you've followed this nonesense and not dozed off.
So if we don't have the players and nobody likes the formations I'm still no wiser as to what the **** Rafa is supposed to do to make it better.