Author Topic: Morientes can join LFC says Real (Read 3742 times)

LES · « **on:** December 19, 2004, 04:56:48 PM »

Taking from offal.

Real Madrid coach Mariano Garcia Remon has admitted Liverpool target Fernando Morientes can leave in the transfer window.

The arrival of former Liverpool striker Michael Owen at the Bernabeu and the departure of former coach Jose Antonio Camacho, who had specifically asked for Morientes to stay, have meant the striker has had to watch most of the season from the dug-out. Real are looking for £8 million but Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez will want to pay less.

"He is thinking of leaving, because he is getting very few minutes football and he wants to play," Garcia Remon said yesterday. "Morientes and the club have to look for the best solution."

anfield_reds · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2004, 04:59:10 PM »

Quote from: LES on December 19, 2004, 04:56:48 PM

"He is thinking of leaving, because he is getting very few minutes football and he wants to play," Garcia Remon said yesterday. "Morientes and the club have to look for the best solution."

Hmm, and where does Real/Manager say Morientes can join LFC?

cowtownred · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:00:57 PM »

Rafa in his post mafch interview was his usual non=committal self, though when quizzed about January he more or less confirmed he had buying targets.

Think Morientes is on to get his wish meself

Wouldn't that be ace

hoonin · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:01:49 PM »

I dont think theres any doubt now that all parties are interested in making this happen, just a case of can we afford it?

Barney_Rubble · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:02:12 PM »

Quote from: LES on December 19, 2004, 04:56:48 PM

Taking from lfc.tv.

You sure about that?

LES · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:02:45 PM »

I certainly hope so.

hoonin · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:03:33 PM »

Quote from: LES on December 19, 2004, 04:56:48 PM

Taking from lfc.tv's MEDIA SECTION!

Barney_Rubble · « **Reply #7 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:05:38 PM »

Quote from: Gareth on December 19, 2004, 05:03:33 PM

Quote from: LES on Today at 04:56:48 PM
Taking from lfc.tv's MEDIA SECTION!

philmcevatt · « **Reply #8 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:16:15 PM »

Quote from: Kristian on December 19, 2004, 05:07:42 PM

I won't be satisfied until I see Morientes on the Anfield turf with a Liverpool scarf over his head and Rafa holding the no.13 shirt for him.

I'd rather give him the number 37 shirt. I think it looks good with a mullet attached to it. We never saw enough of that shirt under GH.

cowtownred · « **Reply #9 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:19:02 PM »

Quote from: Kristian on December 19, 2004, 05:07:42 PM

I won't be satisfied until I see Morientes on the Anfield turf with a Liverpool scarf over his head and Rafa holding the no.13 shirt for him.

No 9 please God

Wheres me notepaper, got time for a quick letter to Greenland methinks...

Dear Santa,
Please send the spitting guy to Bolton.
Please put him in Sams stocking.
Please advise if batteries are needed...

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #10 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:21:43 PM »

Quote from: cowtownred on December 19, 2004, 05:19:02 PM

No 9 please God

Wheres me notepaper, got time for a quick letter to Greenland methinks...

Dear Santa,
Please send the spitting guy to Bolton.
Please put him in Sams stocking.
Please advise if batteries are needed...

Hasn't Cisse got the number nine shirt?

Elisha Scott · « **Reply #11 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:23:22 PM »

Morientes - with something to prove and Baros up front, in our rediscovered 4-4-2. Mellor/FSP as backup. That'll go a long way to redressing our striker problem.

cowtownred · « **Reply #12 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:34:26 PM »

Quote from: Paul Tomkins on December 19, 2004, 05:21:43 PM

Hasn't Cisse got the number nine shirt?

Oh yeh, forgot!

Maybe bein used as protection for leg in the shower...

cowtownred · « **Reply #13 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:35:48 PM »

Quote from: Paul Tomkins on December 19, 2004, 05:21:43 PM

Hasn't Cisse got the number nine shirt?

But im sure u can pick up my intended misguided meaning..

JonnyCigarettes® · « **Reply #14 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:37:01 PM »

Quote from: Gareth on December 19, 2004, 05:01:49 PM

I dont think theres any doubt now that all parties are interested in making this happen, just a case of can we afford it?

What about the player himself?

Last I heard, he was desperate to join Monaco. Has he expressed an interest in joining us?

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #15 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:40:08 PM »

Latest quotes (Friday) were that he'd be interested in a move to LFC.

I'm sure there'll be a few more interested parties. Our best hopes lie with Benitez and the other Spaniards.

I'd still prefer Anelka, but either of these two.

Rasmus · « **Reply #16 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:43:36 PM »

A few worries though! Are we sure Morientes is good enough? I mean obviously he's a good player, has done well for Spain and Real. BUT he's not getting a look in at Real and Monaco or other clubs are not coming in for him. What I really want is someone who wants to play for Liverpool and I just wish we'll sign someone who'll be an instant hit! Is Morientes better than for instance Anelka??

AnotherSpanishfan · « **Reply #17 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:46:12 PM »

Wow did you guys see Rafa's reaction to the Morientes quesiton?...he couldnt hold back had to smile for a good 5 seconds...its in BBC.com's Match of the day...I think LG would be glad to concede the #10 shirt to Morientes but i doubt he'll have it....

hoonin · « **Reply #18 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:51:14 PM »

Quote from: Rasmus on December 19, 2004, 05:43:36 PM

A few worries though! Are we sure Morientes is good enough? I mean obviously he's a good player, has done well for Spain and Real. BUT he's not getting a look in at Real and Monaco or other clubs are not coming in for him. What I really want is someone who wants to play for Liverpool and I just wish we'll sign someone who'll be an instant hit! Is Morientes better than for instance Anelka??

1.Yes, he's without a doubt good enough in my view. Before the current Real president came in and started this whole "Galactico" philosophy, Raul and Morientes were untouchable up front together.
2. He cant get a lookin because ahead of him are the worlds best striker (Ronaldo), Reals very own living legend (Raul) and a marketing magnet who is also scoring goals (Owen)
3. Nobody else is interested? How do you know that? All you'll here is what the English media deems to be relevant. I'm sure theres a host of Spanish clubs who would love to sign a player of such proven quality, but you just dont get it rammed down your throat in this countey because La Liga is not on-topic.

AnotherSpanishfan · « **Reply #19 on:** December 19, 2004, 05:55:32 PM »

Quote from: Rasmus on December 19, 2004, 05:43:36 PM

A few worries though! Are we sure Morientes is good enough? I mean obviously he's a good player, has done well for Spain and Real. BUT he's not getting a look in at Real and Monaco or other clubs are not coming in for him. What I really want is someone who wants to play for Liverpool and I just wish we'll sign someone who'll be an instant hit! Is Morientes better than for instance Anelka??

Well Anelka is probably better with the ball in his feet and more of a traditional 10 than Moro and obviously he's a little younger, but Morientes air game is second to none and he is a good finisher with both feet and more of a tradional "9" and thats probably want Liverpool need right now. The question is do you guys have the wingers that can produce the quality centers like Rothen did in Monaco? and another thing is he hasn't played much for Madrid so maybe he needs to get in good match shape...

JonnyCigarettes® · « **Reply #20 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:01:46 PM »

Quote from: Paul Tomkins on December 19, 2004, 05:40:08 PM

Latest quotes (Friday) were that he'd be interested in a move to LFC.

I'm sure there'll be a few more interested parties. Our best hopes lie with Benitez and the other Spaniards.

I'd still prefer Anelka, but either of these two.

Thanks Paul.

Morientes edges it for me after seeing him help knock Real out for Monaco. Still got a niggling doubt about Anelka's brothers etc.

Always wondered why Houllier didn't decide to keep him after his loan spell.

docker · « **Reply #21 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:10:11 PM »

didnt monaco have a great winger? has he got pace? so its mellor or baros in the leverkusen game.

Rasmus · « **Reply #22 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:19:58 PM »

IMO Morientes is a typical and strong box player, very good in the air and scoring a lot of headers but he would rely on service from our wingers and their ability to put crosses in. I don't know if our wingers can deliver and that would be another aspect that Rafa and the boys need to work with. IF we sign Morientes that is! I dont really know if I prefer us to sign Anelka or Morientes. Anelka looks a good player and is proven PL class but on the other hand it's seems there's always some kind of a problem surrounding Anelka! Morientes or Anelka??? Kinell I'll just trust Rafa on this one....

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #23 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:22:20 PM »

Quote from: AnotherSpanishfan on December 19, 2004, 05:55:32 PM

Well Anelka is probably better with the ball in his feet and more of a traditional 10 than Moro and obviously he's a little younger, but Morientes air game is second to none and he is a good finisher with both feet and more of a tradional "9" and thats probably want Liverpool need right now. The question is do you guys have the wingers that can produce the quality centers like Rothen did in Monaco? and another thing is he hasn't played much for Madrid so maybe he needs to get in good match shape...

I agree with all that. I prefer Anelka as he's proven quality in England, and is younger - Morientes won't have a sell-on value.

But I do like Morientes. He's great in the air, good on the deck, and scores goals.

Quote from: AnotherSpanishfan on December 19, 2004, 05:46:12 PM

Wow did you guys see Rafa's reaction to the Morientes quesiton?...he couldnt hold back had to smile for a good 5 seconds...its in BBC.com's Match of the day...I think LG would be glad to concede the #10 shirt to Morientes but i doubt he'll have it....

What do you mean by that? I missed the interview (will go look, mind). Was it a smile as in "yes, he's ours" or "I'm being asked about this every day" ?

Sat1 · « **Reply #24 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:24:53 PM »

I got a feeling we might get both. Buy Morientez and get Anelka on loan.

It would make sense considering Morientez cant play in the CL for us.

Vinay · « **Reply #25 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:25:50 PM »

I still believe 8 million British Pounds is way too much for a 28 year old striker/forward.

hoonin · « **Reply #26 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:26:58 PM »

Cant see City letting their most valuable asset go on loan. They'll take a good fee for him in Jan, and they'll get offers for him too. No need to loan him out,

Sat1 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:47:13 PM »

Gareth, im sure I read somewhere City would be prepared to let him go on loan. I suppose they'd be happy to get him off the wage bill.

On a seperate note, why does my avtar keep changing?

sir roger · « **Reply #28 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:54:34 PM »

of the two players touted imho, anelka would be the first choice coz he knows the script regards playing for the reds, also he is well versed in the ways of the prem.the plusses for anelka are a welcome back from stevie g.

Barney_Rubble · « **Reply #29 on:** December 19, 2004, 06:58:02 PM »

Quote from: Sat1 on December 19, 2004, 06:47:13 PM

On a seperate note, why does my avtar keep changing?

Quote

Consistency will come in Feb

Barney_Rubble · « **Reply #30 on:** December 19, 2004, 07:09:20 PM »

and Dellas...

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #31 on:** December 19, 2004, 07:19:07 PM »

Quote from: Kristian on December 19, 2004, 07:08:03 PM

I'd prefer Morientes personally but would be just as happy with Anelka.

Is there a RAWK version of Colemanballs?

My point on Anelka was that in three years he'll be worth £8m at least, but Morientes will be approaching 'free transfer' age. But three great years from Morientes, and it won't matter. He is just only in his peak years (generally seen as 27-31), but not sure when he turns 29.

Gerrard's comments on Anelka were interesting. As said elsewhere, there's no way City would loan Anelka out. They need him off the payroll AND a big fee for him.

Gus 1855 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 19, 2004, 07:34:49 PM »

If we just get Anelka, I will be very upset. For reason's I have made before, he adds nothing NEW to our squad in the mid-long term.

Morientes does.

hooded claw · « **Reply #33 on:** December 19, 2004, 07:44:08 PM »

I'd rather see both come. Milan's all-action style- and the fact he'll take a battering from defenders as the season goes on- means we are still light of options. Mellor has done well but he doesn't convince me as a long-term main man should anything happen to Baros.

EDIT- these words from Guillem Balague worry me a little...

"You must remember he rediscovered his form with a team that played in the French league and who used his strengths to a maximum, even allowing him to reinvent himself as a second striker. They are two things that won't happen in the case of Liverpool.

"He is a player that depends greatly on his mood. If he hits form and feels wanted, he delivers. If he feels the competition is too hard (he is not a physical player) or too fast (so he cannot use the movements he has learnt at Monaco) he may want to go home sooner rather than later.

"I doubt he will be a success in England, although I would play him at Madrid, especially now that Beckham is being used as a winger when the team is attacking. His crosses need El Moro's head."

Andy · « **Reply #34 on:** December 19, 2004, 08:21:38 PM »

Quote from: santa claw on December 19, 2004, 07:44:08 PM

EDIT- these words from Guillem Balague worry me a little...

"You must remember he rediscovered his form with a team that played in the French league and who used his strengths to a maximum, even allowing him to reinvent himself as a second striker. They are two things that won't happen in the case of Liverpool.

"He is a player that depends greatly on his mood. If he hits form and feels wanted, he delivers. If he feels the competition is too hard (he is not a physical player) or too fast (so he cannot use the movements he has learnt at Monaco) he may want to go home sooner rather than later.

"I doubt he will be a success in England, although I would play him at Madrid, especially now that Beckham is being used as a winger when the team is attacking. His crosses need El Moro's head."

hmm that doesn't sound good at all.

i guess beni knows what he is doing tho'....

hooded claw · « **Reply #35 on:** December 19, 2004, 08:26:06 PM »

Hmmmm.... we don't seem to get the crosses in at the moment, whether through Nunez' lack of match fitness or Harry's lack of confidence. I always felt Heskey would have benefitted from the type of ball an orthodox winger would give him. I don't have the stats to back this up, but it seems to me we score fewer headed goals than most Prem teams

Sez_20 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 19, 2004, 08:43:34 PM »

I think Morientes will be a fantastic signing.. he's absolute class. can't believe people going on about his age... he's only 28, has good few years in him yet.

While Anelka is obviously a good player, and has youth on his side compared to Morientes, I would still rather sign the madrid man. Don't write him off as just "a box player" or the fact that he relies only on crosses... you obviously didn't watch him last season then... he can create goals just as well. His ability to find the net from anywhere is fantastic, he's big enough to win the headers, can create play, and a strong physical prescence that we lack up front. He'll bag loads for us in the 2nd half of the season, just a pity we couldn't use his experience for the champs league aswell- as I'm sure that'd be the perfect stage to show what he's all about.

Let's just hope he's not "off" form after sitting on the bench for so long, and can adapt to the premier league as quick as the horse.

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #37 on:** December 19, 2004, 08:54:49 PM »

Morientes is a 'proper' header of the ball - unlike Emile, who is just big. Emile is a pretty poor header of a ball - occasionally he'll get one on the meat of the forehead and it flew in, but his direction was nearly always pretty poor - for flick-ons and headers at goal. (Good defensively, mind, where you're not looking to aim it anywhere but AWAY!).

Morientes can hang in the air and get the power and accuracy. Just not sure how many crosses we'd get in, but having said that, Rafa likes two wingers, plus you've got Xabi and Stevie G crossing from deeper positions. Riise's crossing is erratic, but Finnan was always noted for his crossing at Fulham. With someone to cross to, there's more incentive for the team to get them in.

Tosh · « **Reply #38 on:** December 19, 2004, 09:02:12 PM »

Quote from: Paul Tomkins on December 19, 2004, 08:54:49 PM

Morientes is a 'proper' header of the ball - unlike Emile, who is just big. Emile is a pretty poor header of a ball - occasionally he'll get one on the meat of the forehead and it flew in, but his direction was nearly always pretty poor - for flick-ons and headers at goal. (Good defensively, mind, where you're not looking to aim it anywhere but AWAY!).

Morientes can hang in the air and get the power and accuracy. Just not sure how many crosses we'd get in, but having said that, Rafa likes two wingers, plus you've got Xabi and Stevie G crossing from deeper positions. Riise's crossing is erratic, but Finnan was always noted for his crossing at Fulham. With someone to cross to, there's more incentive for the team to get them in.

A bit of chicken-and-egg perhaps Paul? More crosses in to Morientes and he'll score goals, he scores goals they'll start whipping in more crosses?

Hmm.. almost sounding like he's already signed

I'll be stoked with either Morientes or Anelka to be honest, I feel they are both world class and provide different options that will add to our team regardless.

kneejerk · « **Reply #39 on:** December 19, 2004, 09:13:26 PM »

Quote from: philmcevatt on December 19, 2004, 05:16:15 PM

I'd rather give him the number 37 shirt. I think it looks good with a mullet attached to it. We never saw enough of that shirt under GH.

damn shame that

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