Author Topic: Liverpool 3 Palace 2 - All post-match comments here (Read 5776 times)

Paul Tomkins · « **on:** November 13, 2004, 04:56:07 pm »

Can't believe I wrote an article this week saying if Baros took penalties he'd have ten goals and not seven.

Today he scored two pens in a hat-trick, and has 10 goals!

hoonin · « **Reply #1 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:56:58 pm »

Still playing on e-Season ticket

Col · « **Reply #2 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:57:04 pm »

Is he finally starting to turn into a goalscorer?

zigackly · « **Reply #3 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:58:42 pm »

Always was a goalscorer, just needed playing ...

Mighty_Red · « **Reply #4 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:58:49 pm »

Quote from: Jamie Colagher on November 13, 2004, 04:57:04 pm

Is he finally starting to turn into a goalscorer?

He's a confidence player, now he has the confidence of being no. 1 his finishing has improved.

Watch out for more improvements through this season

Valim · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:59:03 pm »

Haha. Chuffed. We'd never have won this game last year. Rafa is a bril coach. Not so good in the market, but a fuckin bril coach.

Heeeheee. Good to be a Red.

Mrfabulous · « **Reply #6 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:59:04 pm »

PHEW

Hugh · « **Reply #7 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:59:14 pm »

Thank fuck for Milan Baros. I'd have that lads babies at the moment.

Steven Gerrard · « **Reply #8 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:59:35 pm »

MILAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! IM SOOOOOOOOOOOO HAPPY

HATRICK!

HATRICK

Pheeny · « **Reply #9 on:** November 13, 2004, 04:59:53 pm »

lol my e season stuck and went on a loop at the final whistle so I had Steve hunter getting excited over and over...

Red Lozza · « **Reply #10 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:00:58 pm »

Xabi Alonso was fantastic in the second half. He just kept demanding the ball and spraying passes. He never panicked, even when it seemed the game was slipping away from us. Class act.

As for Milan, the man is a star. And Harry looked sharper, too.

Finnan should start the next game in place of Josemi though, who looked poor from what I saw.

coltmanaman · « **Reply #11 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:00:59 pm »

Releived more than anything about the result.

Sounded like we played well but missed a lot of chances (again

) Definately looks like Milan has finally brought his Czech form to the red jersey. Lot of pressure on the lad and he's coping fantastically.

Defence getting a bit of a glass jaw at the moment though which has to be a worry

Millsee · « **Reply #12 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:01:47 pm »

Quote from: Valim on November 13, 2004, 04:59:03 pm

Not so good in the market.

What's that supposed to mean?

Steven Gerrard · « **Reply #13 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:02:27 pm »

do you think it will be the main match on sky or will it be the arse game?

Gus 1855 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:02:28 pm »

Couldn't give a flying pansy about the performance..

WE WON WE WON!

Drobs · « **Reply #15 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:02:34 pm »

Can you remember when we were on the penalties thing a couple of weeks ago Paul? I said hoped Milan would be the pen taker as a striker should be (Alan Shearer mentality).

Im a happy red. Well in Meeelan!

Red Lozza · « **Reply #16 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:04:11 pm »

Quote from: coltmanaman on November 13, 2004, 05:00:59 pm

Defence getting a bit of a glass jaw at the moment though which has to be a worry

Although Josemi is struggling at the mo, I think it's a team problem rather than the defence. Rafa keeps going on about how we need to concentrate for 90 mins and that's the problem - we switch off at times defensively.

We also need to be more clinical, but that will only come with more confidence and more strikers.

The main thing is, we're playing much better, much more incisive football under Rafa. Very encouraging.

Pheeny · « **Reply #17 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:05:08 pm »

Quote from: DROBaros on November 13, 2004, 05:02:34 pm

Can you remember when we were on the penalties thing a couple of weeks ago Paul? I said hoped Milan would be the pen taker as a striker should be (Alan Shearer mentality).

Im a happy red. Well in Meeelan!

one of our best ever Penalty takers was a defender.

Filler. · « **Reply #18 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:05:12 pm »

Quote from: Valim on November 13, 2004, 04:59:03 pm

Not so good in the market, but a fuckin bril coach.

'looks like you picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue'

Top result, my weekend is secured., never a doubt. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH AH !!!!

COR · « **Reply #19 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:05:52 pm »

I was watching this on bbc 1, with mcmahon doing the commentating. He looked so gutted when Baros put in the penalty for 3-2, I think his exact words were "Oh n...the keeper just got his hand to it". Apparently it's hard on palace because they showed so much heart.

Either way, the stats don't lie.

Possession:
Liverpool 56%
Crystal Palace 44%
Shots:
Liverpool 18
Crystal Palace 4
Corners:
Liverpool 7
Crystal Palace 1
Fouls:
Liverpool 13
Crystal Palace 17

LFCJim · « **Reply #20 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:06:38 pm »

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeelan you beauty!

Steven Gerrard · « **Reply #21 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:08:02 pm »

Quote from: Hell Toupee on November 13, 2004, 05:05:52 pm

I was watching this on bbc 1, with mcmahon doing the commentating. He looked so gutted when Baros put in the penalty for 3-2, I think his exact words were "Oh n...the keeper just got his hand to it". Apparently it's hard on palace because they showed so much heart.

Either way, the stats don't lie.

Possession:
Liverpool 56%
Crystal Palace 44%
Shots:
Liverpool 18
Crystal Palace 4
Corners:
Liverpool 7
Crystal Palace 1
Fouls:
Liverpool 13
Crystal Palace 17

I thought as an ex red mcmahon would be jumping for joy not giving a fuck how "hard" it was on palace

Holiara · « **Reply #22 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:08:24 pm »

Quote from: Hugh on November 13, 2004, 04:59:14 pm

Thank fuck for Milan Baros. I'd have that lads babies at the moment.

I second that.

I'm so happy for him, well deserved.

Paul: you mind telling me the lottery numbers for next week

TRF · « **Reply #23 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:08:35 pm »

Millllllaannn
whooooooooo scored?

Millannnnnnnn
Who scored ? Miilllllllaaaaaan
Millan-Mellor for Boro match....

Wilbur · « **Reply #24 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:09:51 pm »

Quote from: Red_Lozza on November 13, 2004, 05:04:11 pm

Although Josemi is struggling at the mo, I think it's a team problem rather than the defence.

I respectfully disagree. From in front of the TV it seemed to me that Josemi is currently playing out of synch with the rest of the defense. His current bad behaviors include the following.

1. He hoofs rather than looks for the pass.
2. He fails to mark his man, and gets caught out of position, up the field, too far inside.
3. He looks pokey - when he gets beat in item 2 above, he is not recovering to cover.

Finnan to RB for a while, I think, until Josemi sorts it out and comes back stronger/faster/smarter/more disciplined.

On the other side, Djimi was very useful, although he looks gawky and uncomfortable. He marked his man closely, he maintained concentration, and he recovered when we lost possession. The athletic overhead kick in the first half was very impressive!

cakmin · « **Reply #25 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:10:35 pm »

Gosh, I can't believe this match so tense. Apologize for my rant in the other post lads.

Glad we finally win, but I still have no idea why a team like Palace can get two goals at Anfield. Apart from Deportivo's match, it looks like we leak some goals whenever we cannot press the opponent constantly. Worrying indeed.

Anyway, got to sleep, it's 4.10 AM now here. See ya!

Red Lozza · « **Reply #26 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:12:48 pm »

Quote from: Wilbur on November 13, 2004, 05:09:51 pm

I respectfully disagree. From in front of the TV it seemed to me that Josemi is currently playing out of synch with the rest of the defense.

I agree with you about Josemi. I'm just saying he wasn't the only reason we let Palace back into the game. But what the heck - we won!

Drobs · « **Reply #27 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:13:59 pm »

Quote from: Pheeny on November 13, 2004, 05:05:08 pm

one of our best ever Penalty takers was a defender.

Yes we also went through that and i did phrase that a little off. The point being and the flow of what was said previously was mounted around the pen taker having the mentality (which i heard Shearer say in an interview in particular) about not even thinking about missing, as a striker he scores goals and knows he can score one on one. For that reason i didn't want to see anyone other than Milan take the pens.

Yes you get your odd other player who can stick them away but looking at our current team i wanted Milan to be that man and i think its important that our striker(s) feels confident enough to adopt that same mentality. Follow me?

Hugh · « **Reply #28 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:14:45 pm »

Quote from: Steven Gerrard on November 13, 2004, 05:08:02 pm

I thought as an ex red mcmahon would be jumping for joy not giving a fuck how "hard" it was on palace

Obviously haven't heard McMahon on Sky Sports doing our Champions League games mate. He's a twat and I'm glad we won even more to spite that idiot.

We deserve all the luck we got in this game deserved or not given the decisions that have gone against us this season.

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #29 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:16:15 pm »

Thing with Palace is that they were the third most in-form team in the league going into this game (based on last 6 games).

That penalty on 90 minutes was a big pressure one, as it dictated whether we won or whether we had a really disappointing result.

Quote from: Holiara on November 13, 2004, 05:08:24 pm

Paul: you mind telling me the lottery numbers for next week

Nah, think I'll keep them secret and win all the money myself!

Mighty_Red · « **Reply #30 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:16:18 pm »

Quote from: Hugh on November 13, 2004, 05:14:45 pm

Obviously haven't heard McMahon on Sky Sports doing our Champions League games mate. He's a twat and I'm glad we won even more to spite that idiot.

We deserve all the luck we got in this game deserved or not given the decisions that have gone against us this season.

Doesnt really effect me mate, hes already burned a coupla bridges now

LiamG · « **Reply #31 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:24:00 pm »

did igor or mellor get a game ?

Red Lozza · « **Reply #32 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:24:55 pm »

Mellor came on as sub for the last ten minutes, Igor didnt play

LiamG · « **Reply #33 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:28:29 pm »

Thats a shame, would of like to have seen igor get a game since he wasnt in the starting line up, how did didi play ?

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #34 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:29:51 pm »

It's really hard on Igor. He deserves a game due to his recent form. Hope he stays motivated.

Wilbur · « **Reply #35 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:31:05 pm »

Quote from: Red_Lozza on November 13, 2004, 05:12:48 pm

But what the heck - we won!

This is true!

5 - Kirkland: Not much to do, and I wonder whether he could have stopped the first goal.

4 - Josemi: Played hard but out of synch, lacked the culture the rest of the team is exhibiting. Lost headers.
7 - Carra: Did well with the ball at his feet, played the ball out of defense nicely.
7 - Hyppia: Escaped a likely red card with the one tackle and still not going to win the 100-yard dash, but great in the air and composed on the deck.
7.5 - Djimi: Very disciplined in defense, got forward constantly to good effect. Still looks funny, but effective and touches of class, and only one misplaced pass.

6 - Garcia: In and out, with a brilliant touch and pass followed by some stuff that didn't work. Better in the first half.
5 - Didi: Ref didn't like him much, to judge from the calls he didn't get. Very tight, but not as aggressive/proactive as he could have been.
7.5 - Alonso: His touch in the first half was too heavy on several occasions, but when he got it right it was very nice indeed. Hustled, didn't hide.
6.5 - Riise: Very aggressive first half, and got into the right positions again and again. Created a lot of worry for Palace in the first half, very disappointed to be subbed but still clapped the crowd.

7 - Kewell: Combined well with Riise, Milan, Garcia throughout, accurate crosses, hustled hard in the first half. Cushioned Alonso's ball back across the goal for Milan's second, unlucky not to score himself.
9 - Milan: Like the Energizer Bunny out there, he drew multiple fouls and should have had another penalty in the first half. He even pulled the ball back for Garcia and Kewell three times in the second half, although still not 100% on vision and awareness. Strong penalties, opportunistic goal from open play.

6.5 - Finnan: Lots of possession ball, tricks and accurate crosses. I was never worried when he had the ball, ad I knew he would make the right decision.
X - Mellor: Got into good positions in the ten minutes he was on, but not on long enough.
X - FSP: 83 seconds on the field.

4 - Referee: Made a lot of wrong decisions in the first half
6 - Anfield: Impressive singing through most of the match over the TV - hopefully it was not the away supporters singing FOAR.
6 - Palace: Did themselves a lot of credit, with Ian Dowie putting out a disciplined if limited team.

coltmanaman · « **Reply #36 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:32:55 pm »

Quote from: Paul Tomkins on November 13, 2004, 05:29:51 pm

It's really hard on Igor. He deserves a game due to his recent form. Hope he stays motivated.

He should be playing instead of Hamann (who has been very inconsistent this season)

myrlas · « **Reply #37 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:35:19 pm »

Positives:
Milan - in a class of his own tonight.

Alonso - Good as usual
Djimi - positive going forward as well
Kewell - apart from his "usual self" nowadays, he produced a couple of very good crosses, gave an assist for milan, and put him through for the last pen as well. Improvment!
Riise - Is getting himself into scoring positions in the box all the time. Doesn't always get the ball, but he IS there.. Had a couple og decent passes, and a few attemts at goal as well.
Carra - Play simple and you play good. COuld have scored as well

Negatives:
Josemi - Needs a kick up his backside. Struggeling again.
Sami - Lucky to not get bookedas last man, and was again fault for not holding the line at the back four. I see signs with Sami I don't particulary like..
Kirkland - Gives me no confidence at all. Could have saved the first one. Communicates poorly it seems with his defence (the situation with Sami)
Garcia - A bit lightweight again, and falls out of the match.

Fuck me that late penalty was important. I don't think it's a good idea to let a player take two penalties in the same match. And I don't think Milan is a penaltyshooter...

I was sweating at the end.

But now it's happy days, and I'm going out to celebrate..

AdamS · « **Reply #38 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:43:46 pm »

Barca can fuck off Milan is going nowhere

Anyone want to look up "Can we look to Baros?" thread

Told ya so

Obi Wan Gomi · « **Reply #39 on:** November 13, 2004, 05:45:20 pm »

Post Match Thoughts

Kirky - couldnt do much about the goals.
Josemi - poor on the goals. came inside far too much, not effective going forward.
Sami - alright, troubled a bit by the midfielders supporting freedman, and DID play the left winger onside for the second goal.
Carra - got into a good scoring position early on, was solid but rocked a little by Palace's physical play
Troare - good game again. looked good at the back, did ok going forward
jAR - looked tired early on but then got into it in the second half, some good crosses and shots. unlucky to be subbed
hamman - poor game. poor with his distribution, but at least he put himself about
alonso - always wanted the ball, always looked a class player.
garcia - didnt really get into the game, but did have a great chance to score at the end of the first half
kewell - much better, set up baros to score and then sent him away to win the second penalty. looked like he cared. nice.
baros - massive performance.

finnan - some decent crosses, def should get a start ahead of josemi
mellor - too little time to judge him
same for pongolle

igor - legend

Author Topic: Liverpool 3 Palace 2 - All post-match comments here (Read 5776 times)

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