Author Topic: Chelsea v Liverpool team news, pre- and in-game analysis, comments etc... (Read 5094 times)

Pheeny · « **on:** October 3, 2004, 03:11:58 pm »

as the title says.

ttnbd · « **Reply #1 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:13:58 pm »

5 changes to team.

Kirkland
Josemi
Carra
Sami
Traore
Riise
Alonso
Garcia
Diao
Kewell
Cisse

Subs
Dudek
Warnock
Baros
Hamann
Finnan

Tarpaulin · « **Reply #2 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:14:20 pm »

D Cisse 7/1

M Baros 8/1

J L Garcia 10/1

H Kewell 11/1

X Alonso 16/1

S Warnock 20/1

S Hyypia 33/1

S Finnan 33/1

J A Riise 33/1

S Diao 40/1

Josemi 40/1

I Biscan 40/1

D Hamann 40/1

D Traore 50/1

J Carragher 66/1

Graeme · « **Reply #3 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:15:02 pm »

Daio and Traore.

God help us.

Cardie · « **Reply #4 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:15:44 pm »

Garcia wide right, Riise wide left and Kewell/Cisse upfront.

Ian-TN · « **Reply #5 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:16:02 pm »

Aye, cos Djimi has never played well at left back at Stamford Bridge has he

Don Vito Corleone · « **Reply #6 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:17:05 pm »

Quote from: Graeme on October 3, 2004, 03:15:02 pm

Daio and Traore.

God help us.

Traore who had a great game at the bridge last year?

Craig Mac · « **Reply #7 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:17:12 pm »

I am bambuzled to see Haman on the bench. I cant work it out. Really i cant....

Hugh · « **Reply #8 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:17:23 pm »

Very surprised by the team buut have faith in Rafa.

Drobs · « **Reply #9 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:17:53 pm »

Ok we have the teamline-up but is that a 5-4-1 about to be fielded or what? Three centre backs possibly? Or is this a spin on a five man midfield?

Hamstrung · « **Reply #10 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:18:08 pm »

MAybe Traore is playing at centrre half and carras at left back?

Kirkland
Josemi Hyypia Traore Carra
Diao
garcia Alonso Riise
Kewell
Cisse

Graeme · « **Reply #11 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:18:39 pm »

Carra will play at centre back. Traore is in because he has moved Riise upfield I think.

Cardie · « **Reply #12 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:18:45 pm »

Quote from: Hugh on October 3, 2004, 03:17:23 pm

Very surprised by the team buut have faith in Rafa.

I'm not overly suprised.

Rafa has said all the players will get a chance and he wasn't afraid to mix it up a bit at Valencia no matter the opposition.

andcouldheplay · « **Reply #13 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:18:45 pm »

Probably go

Kirkland

Josemi Carragher Hyypia Traore

Garcia Diao Alonso ?

Kewell

Cisse

Anfield Red · « **Reply #14 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:18:59 pm »

Come on you Reds!!!

Good to see Kirkland back

Craig Mac · « **Reply #15 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:19:39 pm »

Pretty happy with the team, but Id rather see Didi, instead of Diao

Graeme · « **Reply #16 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:20:49 pm »

Quote from: Ulysses Everett McGill on October 3, 2004, 03:17:05 pm

Traore who had a great game at the bridge last year

But equally has had some shocking games in a red shirt. Very fast and a good tackler, but he is one of those players who make you shit yourself when he gets the ball.

As for Daio I've never for one minute thought he is good enough.

andcouldheplay · « **Reply #17 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:21:54 pm »

Quote from: Hamstrung on October 3, 2004, 03:18:08 pm

MAybe Traore is playing at centrre half and carras at left back?

Kirkland
Josemi Hyypia Traore Carra
Diao
garcia Alonso Riise
Kewell
Cisse

Yer probably right

Hamstrung · « **Reply #18 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:21:56 pm »

Diao has seemed functional when playing in def mid, but certainly doesn't have didi's brain.

I'd suggest that he's in because of Rafa's request for aggression and to provide a bit of presence in midifeld.

Whether he can channel it is another thing...

Ian-TN · « **Reply #19 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:22:01 pm »

Quote from: andcouldheplay on October 3, 2004, 03:18:45 pm

Probably go

Kirkland

Josemi Carragher Hyypia Traore

Garcia Diao Alonso ?

Kewell

Cisse

Riise down the left mate.

Craig Mac · « **Reply #20 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:22:15 pm »

Id rather see Milan instead of Harry also...... I mean come on, Harry hasent been playing well, hasent scored in ages, so why play im up top?

Graeme · « **Reply #21 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:22:22 pm »

...of course I hope as much as anyone they have the games of their lives and we take 3 points today.

Dan The Man · « **Reply #22 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:22:28 pm »

Overall Im quite happy with that team, not sure why diao in for hamann that ones a bit puzzling. I reckon they will play this formation

Kirkland

Josemi Hyypia Carra Traore

kewell alonso diao riise

garcia

ciise

Tarpaulin · « **Reply #23 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:22:42 pm »

Rafa has said he make use of the whole squad this season. I dont think its a bad idea to drop hamann for this game. Purely because the pace of the game is alot slower from our point of view when he plays.

If needed, he can then come of the bench to sure things up.

Im quite happy with that team.

Craig Mac · « **Reply #24 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:23:46 pm »

Quote from: Roper on October 3, 2004, 03:22:42 pm

Rafa has said he make use of the whole squad this season. I dont think its a bad idea to drop hamann for this game. Purely because the pace of the game is alot slower from our point of view when he plays.

If needed, he can then come of the bench to sure things up.

Im quite happy with that team.

Yeh, as diao will ad lighting pace to our attack.....

Ian-TN · « **Reply #25 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:24:40 pm »

Quote from: Graeme on October 3, 2004, 03:20:49 pm

But equally has had some shocking games in a red shirt. Very fast and a good tackler, but he is one of those players who make you shit yourself when he gets the ball.

Aye, but how many have been recently? And how many have been under Rafa??

andcouldheplay · « **Reply #26 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:24:53 pm »

Quote from: Ian-TN on October 3, 2004, 03:22:01 pm

Riise down the left mate.

Yer right, i just caught the end of the team news,never caught JAR name

Cardie · « **Reply #27 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:26:07 pm »

Quote from: craigmc321 on October 3, 2004, 03:23:46 pm

Yeh, as diao will ad lighting pace to our attack.....

Who mentioned lightening pace and who mentioned attack?

He'll provide more mobility in midfield end of story, oh and the Kewell comment is nonsense to.

Graeme · « **Reply #28 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:26:42 pm »

Quote from: Ian-TN on October 3, 2004, 03:24:40 pm

Aye, but how many have been recently? And how many have been under Rafa??

Yeah but he hasn't really played under Rafa. Dont get me wrong I hope he plays a stormer today, but I've been happy with Riise's performances at left back this season.

Ian-TN · « **Reply #29 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:26:54 pm »

Quote from: craigmc321 on October 3, 2004, 03:23:46 pm

Yeh, as diao will ad lighting pace to our attack.....

Salif has got a great engine on him.

Drobs · « **Reply #30 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:27:02 pm »

Traore is better in the centre though not at left back. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Diao might just add a bit of muscle, bit more strength. I remember seeing have a good game against Spurs a few seasons ago...about due another.

If Riise pushes up to left wing though where does that leave Harry? Right side with Garcia in the usual supporting role?

Dammit i need some alcohol now!

Craig Mac · « **Reply #31 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:29:28 pm »

Quote from: Cardie on October 3, 2004, 03:26:07 pm

Who mentioned lightening pace and who mentioned attack?

He'll provide more mobility in midfield end of story, oh and the Kewell comment is nonsense to.

Just trina give my views, mate. sorry if you dont agree...

Ian-TN · « **Reply #32 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:29:57 pm »

Quote from: Graeme on October 3, 2004, 03:26:42 pm

Yeah but he hasn't really played under Rafa. Dont get me wrong I hope he plays a stormer today, but I've been happy with Riise's performances at left back this season.

Riise has been superb this year at left back, but Djimi is more than capable of doing a job at left back. I wouldn't have done it meself. I'd have kept the Riise/Warnock down the left but have no problems with him playing Djimi or Salif for that matter.

coltmanaman · « **Reply #33 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:30:29 pm »

I think Diao is ahead of Hamann to add more agression & mobility to the midfield. As for Traore - his extra height (ahead of warnock - Riise moving into midfield) should help at set-pieces. Nice to see Harry in what I think is his best position - just off a striker.

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #34 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:32:06 pm »

I was just coming on here to say about how I felt we'd do really well today - I don't fear Chelsea too much as they don't have as much pace and as many dangermen as Man U, for example. They get results by being compact, not from attack after attack. They have good players, but they don't scare me as much.

However, having seen our team sheet I'm a *little* more cautious - I'm not saying Rafa has got it wrong, just that it was a surprise, and Diao has never looked good enough to me in the past (but I hope to be proved wrong). Traore can be brilliant or awful - but like Diao, he deserves to be viewed with a clean slate under a new manager, playing a new brand of football in a new system.

At least we'll have fresher legs, and Diao can do the running in midfield that Alonso and Hamann couldn't.

Spanish Red was right about Kirkland and Kewell up front just behind Cisse.

Craig Mac · « **Reply #35 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:33:32 pm »

Will be intresting to see how JAR does left mid..... he has been improving every game at left back, and lloking slowly and slowly more like the player he was in the first season. It would be nice to see him grab a goal today.

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #36 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:35:26 pm »

Mourinho on Sky:

"Garcia is like my son, I knew him from my time at Barcelona [as coach] and I wanted to take him to Porto last season."

Cardie · « **Reply #37 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:38:07 pm »

I knew there was a reason I never watched the build up to a game ( I usually turn over in time for kick off) and Richard Keys just reminded me (the twat).

"Liverpool have won only once in 14 games at the bridge and prior to last season lost 7 in a row".

Now I'm off to be sick.

Dan The Man · « **Reply #38 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:38:12 pm »

Agreed, Lets hope JAR can maybe get a goal today from left midfield, hes been short in that department but all other areas of his game have much improved

Think Diao may have been brought in as you say to give us a bit of muscle in that area, rafa did indicate on tues that we need to be stronger in midfield. I also think Harry is need of a big performance today and shut those cockney twats up.

Paul Tomkins · « **Reply #39 on:** October 3, 2004, 03:40:23 pm »

Key Points on selection:

Traore gives us more pace at the back, and more height for set pieces (as does Kirkland).

Riise and Diao give us more pace in midfield. Diao also gives us more height for - you guessed it - set pieces (being far better in the air than Hamann).

Riise and Traore give our left hand side a solid look - Warnock could do the same at left-mid, but Riise has goals in his locker (even if hidden at the bottom under an old sweaty towel).

It actually looks a better balanced team in many ways (certainly height and pace), but with a couple of "lesser" players in the side.

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Pheeny