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Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« on: September 29, 2004, 12:42:28 PM »
23 years ago today.  And I remember it as clearly as if it was yesterday.  We were on holiday in Scotland in a caravan.  I know some older fans say they can remember where they were and what they were doing when Kennedy died - I can't - but all these years later I could point to the exact spot where we were when we heard the news that Bill had died.

Sure, he'd been ill all week, but he'd get over it wouldn't he?

Heart trouble? Shanks? No way. Superfit (even for his age), doesn't drink, doesn't smoke, led a clean life. Unthinkable.

You sometimes read about "a hammer blow", well that's what is was like, just as if you'd been struck.  Stunned.  Sick. 

No way to continue the holiday. We had to get home. Damn all we could do of course, but there was only one place to be. We just wanted to be there, to be close.   

St Mary's Church, West Derby. John Toshack, Ron Yeats, Emlyn Hughes and Ray Clemence carried him. Kevin Keegan, Ian Callaghan and Ian St John escorted the coffin.  The quiet dignity of Nessie and her daughters and grandchildren. Hundreds of people and a river of tears.

Shanks was finally laid to rest when his ashes were scattered in the Kop end goal. 

RIP Shanks. YNWA.

© Maggie May 2004

Bill Shankly born Glenbuck, September 2nd 1913. Died Liverpool, September 29th 1981.


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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2004, 12:53:06 PM »
RIP Shanks  :(

(never knew his ashes were scattered in the Kop goal)
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2004, 12:56:34 PM »
RIP Shanks.

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2004, 01:31:08 PM »
"Take that bandage off. And what do you mean about YOUR knee? It's Liverpool's knee!" - Bill Shankly to Tommy Smith, who had a bandage on his injured knee.

RIP Shanks.

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2004, 01:38:28 PM »
"Bill Shankly was a three dimensional man; disciplined, determined and dedicated.  He refined civic pride and lifted us to a loyalty and unity greater than ourselves.

Bill Shankly did not do this all for himself, but for a team, a vast family, for a city, and for an ideal."

Canon Arnold Myers, Rector of St Mary's in his eulogy at Shanks' funeral.
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2004, 03:33:23 PM »
RIP Shanks.  Thanks for everything .

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2004, 03:40:23 PM »
RIP mate. Yer deserve it.
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2004, 03:40:53 PM »
"In my opinion, Bill was the most outstanding and dynamic manager of the century.  Without a shadow of a doubt he was the main architect of Liverpool's reconstruction.  He laid the foundations in every way."

Sir John Smith to the Liverpool Echo.  29th September 1981.
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2004, 03:47:02 PM »
RIP Shanks

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2004, 03:54:12 PM »
"We were honoured that Bill Shankly moulded us from boys to men.

Words can't express what we feel that Bill Shankly is not still with us.  For those in the game their loss is even greater.  I would like to thank Mrs Shankly for allowing The Boss to spend the time he devoted to the game.

We knew how much he loved his homelife.  He was terribly homesick after a day away.  The legend will live on.  I only wish the man had lived a little longer."

Ian St John's address at Shanks' funeral.
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2004, 04:01:55 PM »


RIP Shanks

YNWA
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2004, 04:08:34 PM »
"The greatest compliment that you could ever pay Shankly is that everything he laid down, we tried to achieve throughout the following years.

The arrival of Shankly was the beginning of a wonderful journey.  In those early days Shanks was the light at the end of the tunnel - he gave Liverpudlians something to believe in.

And when you think of the last day of the Kop - 35 years after Shankly first arrived at Anfield - his name was still being sung from the hearts of everybody on the Kop.  And there were people there who had been born after the man had gone, but it has been inbred into everybody that Shankly is Liverpool FC.

We're all thankful for what he gave us - he sent the name of Liverpool onto the lips of every football fan throughout the world."

Phil Thompson
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2004, 04:17:03 PM »
RIP Shanks.

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2004, 04:27:52 PM »
Shanks ranked winning the FA Cup as his most satisfying achievement, and he later said:

"To think a club like Liverpool had never won the cup was unbelievable.  So many had prayed for it to happen over all the years but it had never come to pass.  So when we beat Leeds at Wembley in 1965 the emotion was unforgettable."

The fans were now hailing Shanks as a hero and the feeling was mutual.  On the side's triumphant return to the city with the Cup, Shanks described the reception Liverpool received as:

"The most fantastic I have ever seen."

He then continued:

"Its probably greater than any other sporting salute.  I wouldn't have been surprised if the lads had lifted the coach off the ground and carried us all to the Town Hall."
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #14 on: September 29, 2004, 05:00:26 PM »
RIP Shanks

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2004, 05:11:57 PM »
"Bill was one of the greatest managers there has ever been.  Everybody called Bill Shankly a great man.  But I'm the one who knows how great, because I worked more closely with him than anyone else for 15 years."

"Basically, he managed by example.  He lived a simple life, his whole life was on a simple level and he approached football exactly the same way.  He never tried to complicate things."

"He was completely dedicated to fitness.  He didn't smoke or drink - he lived like an athlete.  So when he demanded those qualities from his players, they could see in front of them the living example of what he was preaching.  Fitness was everything in his football creed.  He looked on the game as simple, based on movement and possession, with the players fit enough to move around fluently."

"His personality was overwhelming.  It was this terrific personality, his passion for the game, which enabled him to lift players.  He did it by personality not with tactical talks."

"He was the best motivator I ever knew; he could lift a player better than anyone else."

"He wanted to be involved in all things Liverpool.  His passion and honesty for the game were there for all to see."

"You get to know only one Bill Shankly in your life."

Bob Paisley
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2004, 08:15:59 PM »
R.I.P.
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2004, 08:32:44 PM »
The Legend lives on!

R.I.P. Shanks.

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2004, 09:18:15 PM »
Just thought I would add one of my faves.

When asked by a journalist why he walked his dog around evertons training ground and no that of Liverpools, his reply:

"Think about it son, just think about it!"
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2004, 09:25:19 PM »
RIP mate. there is nothing really to justifie in word or in emotion what he meant to us and i wasnt alive when he died but if i was i would of been at that funeral no doubt.
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2004, 10:21:58 PM »
He made the people happy.

RIP Shanks

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2004, 11:35:04 PM »
“Monday was probably the best day in the week anyway because the boss would be full of the joys of spring - especially if the first team has won on the previous Saturday.

After training on the Monday he’d organise impromptu football matches in the car park between the apprentices and the coaching staff.  We’d use bins as goal posts and because we were playing on concrete would wear those old fashioned black and white baseball boots to protect our feet.  As I say, if Liverpool had won on the Saturday, Shankly would be doing all his tricks with the ball, thinking he was one of those Brazilian players - posing with his arms out and suchlike.  Those games could go on for ages because Shankly hated losing at anything and if his side were losing then we’d have to carry on playing.  As soon as his team went ahead then the game would mysteriously finish with Shanks proclaiming his team the outright winners.”

And at Melwood:

“He loved playing five a sides but if he was ever injured then you could forget them because if he couldn’t play then nobody else was allowed to play either.”

And back at Anfield after training:

“He loved his cup of tea, and instead of drinking the normal brands he’d be trying out all these different types of teas - Earl Grey tea, lemon tea, the lot.  He was hooked on them.”

And finally:

“What this club is about now is everything to do with what Bill Shankly laid down in those early years.  He set the standard that everybody at the club would like to attain at all times.  On and off the pitch he had the charisma to hold the interest of not just the players and staff but also the fans themselves who, its true to say, absolutely worshipped him.

For what he did for Liverpool Football Club we all owe him a great debt of thanks.”

Roy Evans.

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2004, 01:31:40 PM »
As much a hero today as he ever was and always will be.

I always remember the day he retired and the Granada TV  reporter on Lime street with those 2 kids who thought is was a wind up:

"shanks retire'never"

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2004, 10:33:17 PM »
remember it every year he died on my mums birthday.so its easy to remember,which in a strange way is nice,cos i never forget.does that make sense? can remember it all like it was yesterday,and i was only 9 at the time.remember it being on radio he was in hospital,remember it saying hed died,remember the swansea game,sat in the kemlyn,them gormless welsh twats with the minutes silence,toshack with his liverpool top on.....dont know about anyone else but maggie mentioned kennedy,but for my age i think everyone remembers where they were when lennon and shankly died. RIP YNWA
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #24 on: October 1, 2004, 12:11:40 AM »

The very highest support.

“My idea was to build Liverpool into a bastion of invincibility. Napoleon had that idea. He wanted to conquer the bloody world. I wanted Liverpool to be untouchable. My idea was to build Liverpool up and up until eventually everyone would have to submit and give in. Fire in your belly comes from pride and passion in wearing the red shirt. We don’t need to motivate players because each of them is responsible for the performance of the team as a whole. The status of Liverpool’s players keeps them motivated. For a player to be good enough to play for Liverpool, he must be prepared to run through a brick wall for me then come out fighting on the other side. The fans here are the greatest in the land. They know the game and they know what they want to see. The people on the Kop make you feel great – yet humble. I’m just one of the people who stands on the Kop. They think the same as I do, and I think the same as they do. It’s a kind of marriage of people who like each other. At a football club, there’s a holy trinity – the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don’t come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques. Football is a simple game based on the giving and taking of passes, of controlling the ball and of making yourself available to receive a pass. It is terribly simple. I was the best manager in Britain because I was never devious or cheated anyone. I’d break my wife’s legs if I played against her, but I’d never cheat her. A lot of football success is in the mind. You must believe you are the best and then make sure that you are. In my time at Anfield we always said we had the best two teams on Merseyside, Liverpool and Liverpool reserves. Above all, I would like to be remembered as a man who was selfless, who strove and worried so that others could share the glory, and who built up a family of people who could hold their heads up high and say ‘We’re Liverpool’. If you are first you are first. If you are second you are nothing.”
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #25 on: October 1, 2004, 12:50:50 AM »
won't even try to sum up my feelings towards Shankly

never had the priveldge to be around when Shanks was leading the way - all i have is the stories that people tell, but what stories they are

never to be forgotten

God Bless Shanks
You Made the People Happy

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #26 on: October 1, 2004, 10:50:46 AM »
Loved him - Met him three times as a young kid. He was warm, witty, generous with his time and had an aura that a kid will always feel stronger than any adult. Our whole family loved that man and always will.

The story at the end of 'Boys from the Mersey' summed up his caring nature, and with todays footballers lacking gratitude, that same caring nature and always in too much of a hurry to get to their next big-earner - I doubt we will ever see his like again.

Billy Shankly - I wish I could meet you one last time to tell you just what you meant to thousands of young Liverpudlians like myself. Not being overly romantic about things - but, simply loved you Shanks.

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #27 on: October 1, 2004, 11:59:08 AM »
     :'(   RIP SHAKLEY YOUR A LEGEND

     

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #28 on: October 3, 2004, 10:41:38 AM »
One story concerns a young player who Shankly had hopes would one day replace Ian Callaghan. The only problem was that the youngster was a bit on the thin side. Shankly, Fagan and Paisley decided that the lad needed a diet of steak. Paisley was given the job of ensuring that steak was delivered to the lads family every day.

The diet of steak continued through the end of the season and all through the summer. On the first day of pre season training the lad knocked on Shankly's door.

'Jesus Christ, son, you look like physical poetry. You're muscular. Those steaks have worked a treat' said Shankly.

The young boy tried to explain that he wanted to speak to Shanks because he had a bit of a problem. He wanted a week off because he had a few things to sort out because he had got a girl pregnant.

Shankly darted to the door of his office and shouted down the corridor,

'Joe, Bob, come here, quickly! We've created a bleeding monster!!!!'


When he was surrounded by a group of Italian journalists at an airport Shankly told the interpreter,

'Just tell them that I totally disagree with whatever theyre saying.'


After signing The imposing figure of Ron Yeats.
'With him in defence we could play Arthur Askey in goal.'


Shankly talking to Tommy Docherty who had sold Shanks Tony Hateley for £96,000 in 1967. Shankly sold the player on to Coventry.
'Youve got to admit though Bill he was good in the air,' said Docherty.
'Aye, so was Douglas Bader............and he had a wooden leg,' was Shanklys instant reply.


When Shankly met former Liverpool centre forward Albert Stubbins by chance at a railway station, the pair had not seen each other for nearly 20 years. Shankly had no times for hellos or small talk though.

'Hello Albert. If the opposing centre half moves up into attack do you think your centre forward should go with him?'


Everton had just signed Alan Ball so Shankly decided to welcome him by phoning him.
'Congratulations on your move son. You'll be playing near a great side.'


In the Liverpool team hotel two old ladies were watching Coronation Street as Bill and the team walked into the television lounge.
'You dont mind if I turn the tv over so we can watch the boxing do you ladies?'
The old dears protested that they did mind because they never missed Coronation Street and they had been there first.
'Tell yer what I'll do,' said Shankly looking at the lads in the Liverpool team and then looking at the old ladies. 'Im a democrat. Hands up in this room who wants to watch the boxing'.


Liverpool were in the dressing room prior to an away game at West Ham. Shankly told his players, 'Theres nothing for you to beat today. Ive been watching the West Ham players come in. That Bobby Moore can hardly walk and Geoff Hurst looks ill to me. I dont want you to be too cruel to them though so I want you to stop when youve scored 5.'

Early in the second half it was 5-0 to Liverpool. Peter Thompson ran past the dug out and shouted to Shankly, 'Shall we put the shutters up now that weve got 5?'
Shankly shook his head and called out
'No. Humiliate the bastards!!!'


In Bucharest before an away European tie Shankly was raging because the hotel had no Coca-Cola for his players. 'Its a conspiracy. A war of nerves.'


Shanklys opinion on Brian Clough
'Hes worse than the rain in Manchester. At least that stops occasionally.'


Shankly talking about the effect off The Kop on the opposition
'When theres a corner down at the Kop end, they scare the ball'.


During Shanklys playing days he was asked if it was true that he would tackle his own grandmother
'Dont be stupid,' Shankly retorted, 'She would have more sense than to come anywhere near me.'


Shanklys appraisal of a defender who played against Liverpool in the early 70's.
'If he had gunpowder for brains he couldnt blow his cap off'.


When a newspaper sportswriter suggested to Shankly that Liverpool were suffering a dip in form Shankly retorted 'Aye, youre right. We're struggling at the top of the league.'

Shankly on Tom Finney.
'He was a ghost of a player, but very strong. He could have played all day in his overcoat.'


Shanks gives his opinion on referees.
'They know the rules, but they dont know the game.'


Inspecting the grass with the players at Anfield.
'See this grass boys. its amazing. Its green, professional grass.'


His reply when he was asked if he had a good Christmas.
'Aye, not bad. We got 4 points out of 6.'


After Don Revie had been appointed England manager.
'Christ, hes only 48 and hes gone into semi retirement already.'


Shankly speaking to a crowd of close on 100,000 outside St Georges Hall after Liverpool had won the FA Cup in 1974. 'Since Ive come to Anfield Ive drummed it into my players time and time again that it is a privilege to play for you people. If they didnt believe me then they do now. Ive drummed into them that they must be loyal and they must never cheat you, the public. The Kop is exclusive, an institution, and if you are a member of the Kop you feel like you are a member of a society. Youve got thousands of friends around you and they are all united and loyal.'


When travelling in a car with Frank Worthington they passed Goodison Park. Worthington was nearly signed by LFC but failed the medical. Shankly pointed a finger at Goodison.
'Take no notice of that laddie. Theres only 2 teams in Liverpool. Liverpool and Liverpool reserves.'


Shanklys assessment of Bayern Munich before a Cup Winners Cup tie. He told his players that
'Bayern Munich arent a football club. Theyre a Christmas Club.'


As Shankly was driving home from Blackpool after signing a young Emlyn Hughes he was stopped by the police.  'Do you know who you are talking to?' Shankly shouted at the police officer.
'Yes its Mr Shankly isnt it?' Replied the policeman.  'No, not me, him.' Snapped Shankly pointing to Hughes. 'Dont you recognise him? That lad there is the future captain of England.'


Shankly scorned some of the training methods of other clubs. He was particularly critical of Evertons methods.
'Some people may say that we are lazy, but thats fine. Whats the point of tearing players to pieces? We never bothered with sand dunes and hills and roads. We trained on grass where football is played.'


Having a dig at Don Revie who was well known for his files and dossiers on his opponents.
'Football matches are played on football pitches and not in exercise books.'


About the essential learning process requred for competing in European football.
'All the time we are learning. Taking a particle from here and a bit from there, building ourselves up like a hydrogen bomb.'


Before a game in 1963 against Wolves Shankly told his players
'Remember you are the best. Wolves are just a name, a team of the past. We're the team of the future.'


Shankly was trying to convince Ron Yeats that it would be a good move if he signed for Liverpool from Dundee Utd. Liverpool were still in the 2nd division at the time.
'Where is Liverpool exactly?' said Yeats
'We're in the 1st division son.' said Shankly
'Thats not true.' Yeats retorted
'Ah, but we will be with you in the team.' replied Shanks.


Shankly to defender Peter Wall
'I've had my spies out and I've been told you were in a nightclub until 3 o'clock in the morning. Who do you think you are........Errol Flynn?'


Shankly appearing as a guest on the t.v. show 'This Is Your Life' when Jimmy Tarbuck was the subject of the programme. As he passed the shows host, Eamonn Andrews, he said
'You know, Eamonn, I've been on this show more than you.'


On meeting Tommy Cooper backstage at the London Palladium.
'Bloody 'ell Tommy, what size shoes do you take? I've sailed to Ireland on boats smaller than those.'


When he was in charge at Carlisle United they were 2-0 down at half time in one game. When the players came into the dressing room Shankly vented his anger on his captain Geoff Twentyman.
'What did you call at the toss up?' enquired Shankly
'Heads,' Twentyman replied.
'Jesus Christ laddie,' screamed Shankly. 'Never call heads'.


Shankly decided to put the record straight concerning the false story that he took his wife Nessie to watch Accrington Stanley on their wedding anniversary.
'Do you really think I would have got married during the football season?' Shankly blasted. 'I'll tell you the truth about that. It was her birthday and we went to watch Tranmere Rovers'.


A journalist once shouted to Shankly after a Saturday game that both Manchester United and Manchester City had lost.  'Theyre bottom and next to bottom in the league.' said the journalist.
'Aye,' laughed Shankly, 'and theyll take some bloody shifting.'


A journalist once commented to Shankly that Tony Currie reminded him of the great Tom Finney.
'Aye, yer could be right,' agreed Shanks. 'Mind you, Toms 57.'


In 1973 the Daily Express newspaper ran a computer international match between the present England team and an England team of old. The computer generated match report appeared in the newspaper. Part of it reported that Tom Finney had to be stretchered off the field after a tackle by Liverpools Emlyn Hughes. According to Shankly, Finney was the greatest player he had ever seen.
When the Liverpool players reported for training Shankly burst into the changing rooms and threw a copy of the paper at Emlyn Hughes.  'Listen son,' Shankly shouted. 'If you ever touch Tom Finney again I'll kick you up the arse.'


Shankly to Radio Merseyside journalist Bob Azurdia.
'Do yer know something, Azurdia? I've been asked a million stupid questions in my time and you've asked all of them.'


After Shankly rubbished Anderlecht before a European Cup tie in 1964 Liverpool won 3-0. As his players returned to the dressing room Shankly beamed
'Congratulations lads. Youve just beaten one of the best teams in Europe.'


After failing to sign Lou Macari who signed for Manchester United instead.
'It doesnt matter. I only wanted him for the reserves.'


'If Everton were playing at the bottom of my garden I'd close the curtains.'


Phil Thompson had been left out of the team. Liverpool had just lost 2-0 and Thompson went to tell Shankly how disappointed he was to be left out of the team. Shankly replied
'Disappointed son? You should be grateful that I left you out of a team that played so badly. You should be thanking me.'


Shankly hated players being injured. Chris Lawler was in the Anfield treatment room after making 241 consecutive appearances for Liverpool between October 1965 and April 1971. Paisley told Shankly that there was no way that Lawler could play in the next game because his ankle had swollen up like a balloon.
'Hes a bloody malingerer,' snapped Shankly angrily.


Tommy Smith was injured and had to go off during a game. Shankly ran over to see how he was.
'Are yer alright son?' Shankly inquired.
'Its my leg boss. Its killing me.' was Smiths reply.
'Correction son,' Shankly said. 'Its not your leg, its Liverpools leg.'



Shanklys appraisal of one aspiring youngster. 'The trouble with you son is that your brains are all in your head.'


When it was pointed out to Shankly that he had put Anfield as his address when he signed a hotel guestbook he replied 'Thats right. Thats where I live.'


Shankly to over 100,000 people outside St Georges Hall when they won the FA Cup in 1974.
'Even Chairman Mao has never seen a greater show of red strength than this.'


Shankly hated to lose. Even when he was playing 5 a side at training his team were not allowed to lose. One day his side were losing and it was starting to go dark. One of his team shot and Shankly screamed goal!!!! 'Thats 2-2 lets call it a day.' The other team though insisted that the ball had not crossed the line and a row developed. 'OK!!! I know how to settle this.' said Shankly. He went to Chris Lawler who was nicknamed Silent Knight by the other players because he hardly said anything and never argued with anybody.

'Youre an honest man Chris,' said Shanks. 'Was it a goal or not?'

Lawler replied that the ball had not crossed the line.

'Jesus Christ!!' said Shankly,angrily. 'You dont open your mouth for 5 years and when you do its a bloody lie!!!'


Shankly giving new signing Alec Lindsay instructions about his role as a Liverpool player.
'Listen son. I want you to take men on, go past them and lash in those shots that brought you the goals when you were playing at Gigg Lane'. 'But that wasnt me boss. That was Jim Kerr.' protested Lindsay.
'Jesus Christ, Bob.' said Shankly to Paisley. 'Weve signed the wrong bloody player.'


Shankly met the Everton player Terry Darracott by chance one day. Shankly asked him how he was. Darracott said he was fine and that he had no problems. 'No problems?' rapped Shankly. 'Ive got problems, youve got problems. When you havent got a problem, thats the problem.'


Shankly was asked which part of the game he disliked 'The end of the season.' was the reply.


After losing the first 3 home games of the 1963/64 season he told the Liverpool directors
'Gentleman I assure you. We will win a home game this season.'


Shankly went for a haircut in 1963. The barber asked him if he wanted anything off the top.
'Aye, Everton.' he replied.


Shankly talking to Tottenham manager Bill Nicholson the day after a Liverpool defeat.
'I see you got beat 2-0 yesterday.' said Nicholson. 'No, no.' replied Shanks. 'We murdered them. We were all over them. They never got a shot in. Their first goal wasnt a goal at all, and the second, well you've never seen anything like it.'


Peter Thompson was called into Shanklys office after a series of bad results.
'You've been smoking youself to death son.' said Shankly 'I dont smoke.' protested Thompson.
'You've been on the town with women in nightclubs. Every night youve got a different woman.' Shanks continued.

'But I havent been doing that boss.' pleaded Thompson. 'Youre drinking yourself to death. Ive heard from my spies in town that you are practically an alcoholic.' said Shankly. 'Boss, I havent done any of those things that youve said.' insisted Thompson. 'Well son. The way you are playing at the moment you must be doing all those things and plenty of other things I havent found out about yet.' concluded Shankly.


To a policeman who had kicked a Liverpool scarf off the pitch at Anfield when Shanks was participating in a victory lap of honour. 'Dont do that. That scarf is somebody's life.' He then tied the scarf around his neck.


When asked how he would like to be remembered he said,

I'd like to be remembered for being basically honest in a game in which it is sometimes difficult to be honest. Sometimes youve got to tell a little white lie to get over a little troublesome period of time.
I'd like to think that I have put more into the game than I have taken out: and I havent cheated anybody, that Ive worked for people honestly all along the line. For the people of Liverpool who go to Anfield, I'd like to be recognised for trying to give them entertainment. I'd played at Anfield and I knew that the crowd were fantastic. I knew there was a public just waiting. So I fought the battles inside and outside. I was interested in only one thing, success for the club. That would mean success for the people. I wanted results for the club, for the love of the game, to make the people happy.'


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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #29 on: October 3, 2004, 11:22:50 AM »
I sometimes wish I was around during the time of Shankly. He'd rip the modern media apart with some of his comments :)

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #30 on: October 3, 2004, 11:25:14 AM »
RIP Shanks

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #31 on: October 4, 2004, 01:34:01 PM »
The man the legend the true peoples champ

just think of the matches being played in heaven at present

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2004, 12:47:22 AM »
"Adidas wanted to present him with a Golden Boot in recognition of what he'd done. Bob Paisley took the call and said, 'They want to know what shoe size you take'. Shanks shouted back, 'If it's gold, I'm a 28.'


After a 0-0 draw at Anfield:
"What can you do, playing against 11 goalposts?"


"We absolutely annihilated England. It was a massacre. We beat them 5-4."



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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #33 on: December 1, 2004, 01:19:07 PM »
(To the tune of Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band)

It was forty-five years ago today.
When great Bill Shankly taught the Reds to play.
He gave to us the passing style
That was guaranteed to make us smile

So let me introduce to you.
The man we've loved for all these years

The one and only Bill Shankly....



Date of Birth: 2nd September 1913 
Place of Birth: Glenbuck, Ayrshire 
Honours: 3 League Championships 1963-64, 1965-66, 1972-73
2 FA cups 1964-65, 1973-74
1 UEFA Cup 1972-73
1 Second Division Championships 1961-62.
3 Charity Shields 1964 (shared), 1965 (shared), 1966

(From National Football Museum website)

There have been Liverpool managers who won more trophies than Bill Shankly but ask anyone in football and they will agree that `Shanks` started it all at Anfield. Bill was born in the Ayreshire mining village of Glenbuck, the ninth of ten children and from such humble beginnings he rose to establish the football club, and philosophy, that became the most successful in English football.

Bill began his managerial career at Carlisle, ironically where he had started his playing career, before moving on to manage Grimsby Town, Workington and then Huddersfield Town, in 1956. Another irony in that Huddersfield had been the opponents in 1938 when he won his only FA Cup winners` medal as a wing-half in Preston North End`s 1-0 victory.

It was at Huddersfield that Bill gave a debut to a 16 year old Denis Law but Shankly wasn`t long for Leeds Road and the improvement he engineered in Huddersfield`s fortunes brought him to the attention of another club languishing in Division Two, Liverpool.

The relationship that gave birth to the dynasty that was to become Liverpool Football Club began on December 1st 1959 when Bill Shankly walked into Anfield for the first time as manager.

Never one to do things by half `Shanks` dispensed with no less than 24 players although he retained the backroom staff who were to be the beginnings of the famous `Boot room` and he signed two very influential players who were to be the bedrock of his new Liverpool, Ron Yeats and Ian St. John.

Success didn`t come overnight but once Liverpool swept to the Second Division title in 1961-62 the club never looked back and Liverpool became a club that didn`t so much gain success as expect it.

After winning the First Division championship, the FA Cup and the League title again, in successive seasons from 1964, Shankly dismantled the team and promptly built another trophy juggernaut. With players like Kevin Keegan and Ray Clemence, diamonds dug out of the anonymity of the Fourth Division, at the heart of a team that also included Shankly discoveries Emlyn Hughes and Chris Lawler Liverpool added another League title, 1973, the same year they captured the UEFA Cup and followed up with another FA Cup in 1974.

Shortly after his second FA Cup triumph Bill Shankly shocked Liverpool fans by announcing his retirement although he did maintain contact with the club, via a consultancy position until his death in 1981.

Shanklyisms are embedded in the fabric of the national game with perhaps his most quoted saying being,

“ Some people say football is a matter of life and death. They`re wrong. It`s more important than that.”

Another, less quoted, saying sums up the man and his ethic.

“ I believe the only way to live and be truly successful is by collective effort, with everyone working for each other, everyone helping each other and everyone having a share of the rewards at the end of the day… It`s the way I see football and the way I see life.”


"It was on a cold December's day
Back in 1959,
When a man came down from Huddersfield Town
To lead the Anfield line,
He bought Yeats from Dundee and St. John,
And the football world was shook,
This man he became a legend,
Bill Shankly from Glenbuck. "

R.I.P. Shanks

Y.N.W.A.

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2005, 07:17:24 PM »
Originally posted on SquareFootball.net :

It goes against the grain for the Liverpool board to sack their manager. It happened for the first time in 1956, and it wouldn’t happen again for 48 years. Don Welsh had taken over a relatively successful team but immediately saw them relegated. Seeing neighbours Everton pass them on their way up into the top flight of English football was galling enough; two seasons of failure to regain their former first division status, and Welsh was dispensed with. His successor fared little better; former team captain Phil Taylor holds the unenviable distinction of being the only LFC manager never to manage the team in the top division.

Taylor made way for one Bill Shankly, and LFC began the slow transformation into a – surely the- giant of the British modern era. The club’s rebirth is the stuff of legend, but painful lessons had to be learned along the way. It was Shankly’s laying of foundations for future dominance which mark him out as much as any silverware. He set about the task with a ruthless dedication- he started by dispensing with 24 of the playing staff- and began with his own tabula rasa. The process took time; promotion followed in 1962, and the First Division title in 1964. Fast forward to 2004, and Gerard Houllier leaves Liverpool. He had won several trophies during his six-year tenure, and had guided the club into this season’s CL, yet this was insufficient to stay the Damoclean sword. Some self-respect had been restored to a club which, since Shankly, has lived and breathed for silverware. But if any stark illustration were needed of football’s sea change in the intervening period, here it is; relegation is one thing, but even qualification for Europe’s premier club competition was not enough to keep Houllier at Anfield. What might be cause for celebration at sixteen other clubs was, bluntly, short of the mark at Liverpool. Summary dismissal of the manager has never been the Liverpool way; the man is given time and backing to build his side. Compare Tottenham’s 28 managers since 1898, or the shocking turnover of incumbents at Stamford Bridge- 16 since 1967 alone. Yet the Shankly ‘first is everywhere, second is nowhere’ is still the fans’ gold standard.

February 2005: Rafael Benitez is the man in charge. Liverpool are fifth in the table and in very real danger of not qualifying for the Champions League. The season has seen a litany of serious injuries to key players (including broken bones in two of the club’s three most expensive signings ever), an early and ignominious exit from the FA Cup, and continuing and unsettling rumours about Steven Gerrard’s future. Some recent displays, at Birmingham and Southampton, have appeared lacklustre at best, hapless at worst. In the credit column, the final of the Carling Cup is imminent, and 4th place remains within reach. The failure to do what Houllier did last season could prove catastrophic in the long-term.

Benitez faces a massive task. Just ahead of him are Everton; the gargantuan spending power of Chelsea and the ingrained culture of success at Highbury and Old Trafford are in danger of disappearing from view. Many believe Benitez is the man to wake the sleeping giant- not merely to get him twitching fitfully in his slumber, but alert and focussed. Even given the so-grim-it’s-almost-funny casualty list, qualification for the Champions League (and all that signifies for potential new signings) can still be gained. But just as Houllier achieved what Welsh could only fantasise about- and still paid the price- the stakes have been raised. No Champions League means no Gerrard, a vastly reduced transfer kitty and no truly first class players to sign in the summer with the money available. Rebuilding this underachieving team, into something approaching a side capable of contending for the Premiership title- into a side worthy of Liverpool’s heritage, no less- is not something to be achieved overnight, or even within a few months.

There is no suggestion Snr Benitez will face the chop if fifth place is as far as he can go this season; but given the turmoil surrounding the new stadium, the captain and the financing issues, he must be wondering if he has accepted the proffered chalice, only to find it poisoned.
Allowing for the seismic shift in the game since the 1960s, he faces a task comparable to that undertaken by Shankly; a club treading water, falling short of expectation, and with many players openly criticised as unfit to wear the famous shirt. Liverpool rose from one man’s vision, ably assisted; with grit and unquenchable will, under the aegis of patient backing and supporters, and with the right brand of ruthlessness. More of the same will be needed in the coming months and years. There are some players of true calibre at Anfield, and many who seem unlikely to make the grade. Tabula Rafa, anyone?
I'll always keep in my heart the good times I've had here, the strong and loyal support of the fans in the tough times and the love from Liverpool.
 I have no words to thank you enough for all these years and I am very proud to say that I was your manager.
Thank you so much once more and always remember: You'll never walk alone.

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2005, 10:23:57 PM »
read "Shankly Glenbuck to Wembley" yesterday. Tears came out of my eyes!
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #36 on: March 11, 2005, 11:52:48 AM »
100th derby game at anfield. i had a ticket for once ( still got the stub). managed to get callys autograph and then the great man appeared 'errr son have you got a ticket' says he, 'yes' says i as he autographs my proey and then wanders off dishing out abot half a dozen kop tickets.

i met him again years later when the london branch did a presentation  following his resignation. both times will stick in my memory for ever.

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #37 on: March 11, 2005, 06:43:39 PM »
Early December of 1959, Liverpool Football Club received an early Christmas gift. From that day, a legend was born. One beloved and indomitable Scotsman changed the face of Liverpool Football Club for the better. His sheer wit, drive and passion for the great game were the jigsaw pieces of the success story that was Mr. Bill Shankly’s 15 years reign. His enthusiasm and desire tore through the heart of the club like an army tank. But most importantly, and beyond the unthinkable, the restoration techniques instated were what has kept him remembered to this present day. And with that confidence came a very special bond with the Anfield faithful, particularly, The Kop. Shankly described the phenomenon that was The Kop as a ‘shrine’. So, with public backing and an arrogant personality, the world was Liverpool’s oyster.
From the very start of his illustrious sovereignty, he stamped his mark. There was no shyness or caution, Bill flew in like an athlete on steroids and demolished and fashioned a luxurious training ground, to replace the previous muddy wreck. Long runs along the roads of Melwood became a thing of the past; the professionalism installed was way ahead of its time. Football, to Bill, needed to be plainly that – football. Nowhere near as much stamina or pace training, far more ball work, and most famously of Shankly’s training methods, was the constant five-a-sides, something he’d loved from his youth and still did – participating in every session, gathering moral and team ethics along the way. But along the road of persistent changes, came an opportunity for Shankly to test his patience and demonstrate his footballing expertise: Joe Fagan, Bob Paisley and Reuben Bennett were kept on, a decision in itself which would prove to be legendary and vital for Liverpool Football Club. It seemed that everything Shankly touched turned to gold.
Shankly’s hokey-cokey continued. It was clear Shanks knew what he wanted: and nearly 25 players didn’t cut it in the high standards set by the Scot. Ian Callaghan, Gerry Bryne, Roger Hunt were all promoted from within the depths of the thinning squad – the vision Shankly had was solely one for the future. And on a tight budget, the job was proving more difficult. Denis Law and Jack Charlton slipped through Shankly’s grasp. It was becoming increasingly as though Liverpool had to meet the Scot’s standards, not the other way round – Ian Callaghan arrived after much controversy – an apparent hint of quitting persuaded the Liverpool board to splash the cash on football stars. His eye in the market was as good as every other attribute he possessed. Ron Yeats, the monstrous center back, was one of the most inspired signings in Liverpool Football Club’s history. The Scot boasted that he “could play Arthur Askey in goal” after the magnificent capture.
With the manager’s passion mirrored both on the pitch and on the terraces, the team steamrollered their way into Division 1, to then go on to win the Championship in 1964. Five years of sheer hard work and behind the scenes plotting. However, according to Shankly, “the Championship was Liverpool’s bread and butter.” The FA Cup was what the fans, the players and the manager wanted – clearly because the FA Cup was the competition to win. The winners, as we were, were always the envy of the rest of England.
Anfield erupted, simply and effectively, “We won the League, we won the League, e I addio, we won the League.”
Another title followed, but things slid. Towards the end of the decade, the flame had died down. Shanks was never down and out, though, the tricks were constantly flowing out of his sleeves. Paul Daniels would have been well impressed. The team that was the core of all successes was ripped apart. Bill was a realist, no second chances and no sentiments – trophies were all he was concerned about. Yet again Liverpool were transformed and revived. All doubters were left aghast as the Championship, our bread and butter, was landed again. And, most historical, the Red’s first Continental prize – the UEFA Cup.
At 60, Shankly told the world, he was tired and wanted to go out on top. But even his closest friends were never sure if he was telling the truth. By the end of the Summer, the football-mad Scot had approached the Liverpool board about a possible return. Having appointed Bob Paisley as his successor, the directors were loathe to demote him in favour of reinstating Shankly. The dilemma of finding a new role for the former manager remained unresolved right up until the his sudden death from a heart attack on September 28, 1981: A grim, grim day for everyone in football world.
Liverpool mourned the passing but ensured his legend will always live on, not just in Anfield’s Shankly Gates or the statue unveiled behind the Kop in 1997, but in the terraces chants of his name that remind those writing each new chapter in the Reds’ success just where the story began.

“I would like to be remembered as a man who built up a family of people who can their heads up high and say: We’re Liverpool”


Bill Shankly: Lest we forget

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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #38 on: March 18, 2005, 08:44:43 PM »
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Re: Bill Shankly September 2nd 1913 - September 29th 1981
« Reply #39 on: March 18, 2005, 09:50:24 PM »
Rest In Peace Shanks

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