Topic: Rank your top 10 club managers in the world

[El Lobo]

Zidane
Luis Enrique
Van Gaal
Pellegrini
Ranieri
Emery
Blanc
Bruce
Guardiola
McDermott

[Keith Lard]

The definitive list:

1. Guardiola
2. Ancelotti
3. Mourinho
4. Simeone
5. Klopp
6. Conte
7. Loew
8. Allegri
9. Ranieri
10. Wenger
11. Enrique
12. Pellegrini
13. Emery
14. Tuchel
15. Benitez
16. Del Bosque
17. Pocchetino
18. Blanc
19. Mancini
20. Favre
21. Maurizio Sarri
22. Deschamps
23. Frank De Boer
24. Sam Allardyce
25. Jorge Sampaioli
26. Senol Gunes
27. Roger Schmidt
28. Zidane
29. Jorge Jesus
30. Gerardo Martino
31. Rui Vitória
32. Van Gaal
33. Oscar Tabarez
34. Fatih Terim
35. Bilic

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Simeone
Klopp
Guardiola
Ancelotti
Mourinho
Ranieri
Emery
Pochettino
Wenger
Tuchel
Allegri

[vinothmct]

Rafa benitez is long distant away from being in Top10.. He was a good manager but he looks finished..

A great person and sadly a once great manager

[Keith Lard]

Rafa benitez is long distant away from being in Top10.. He was a good manager but he looks finished..

A great person and sadly a once great manager

Riiiiiiight ...if you say so.

[DangerScouse]

Jesus Christ, managers who've never won anything in their career, are according to some, in the top 10 managers in the world.

[_00_deathscar]

Jesus Christ, managers who've never won anything in their career, are according to some, in the top 10 managers in the world.

Including Ranieri in there is insane too - for all his achievement of taking Leicester to the league title.

[kaesarsosei]

Anyone posting Zidane should be banned. He did his best to throw that game last night with his subs, and hes only been in the job for 5 months. Also, surely no team has had an easier path to the final, and while I respect them for somehow winning, they had a large slice of luck. Other fans refer to Istanbul as a lucky win, but really Real had a lot more luck last night.

For me it depends on circumstances. The only manager in the world I would consider trading for Klopp at Liverpool is Simeone. For the vast majority of top-half clubs in the big leagues I consider those two the best. Emery, Wenger and Pochettino are similar but not quite as good IMO.

But if you are a club that can afford to spend Ł100m+ net every year (City, Madrid, Barca, PSG, Utd, Chelsea) then I would say Mourinho, Guardiola and Ancelotti are the clear best. They all have a track record of going to the big clubs and winning thing but none of them have built anything from scratch.

Unless I forgot someone, I can't think of anyone else that merits discussion.

[Kenny's Jacket]

Anyone posting Zidane should be banned. He did his best to throw that game last night with his subs, and hes only been in the job for 5 months. Also, surely no team has had an easier path to the final, and while I respect them for somehow winning, they had a large slice of luck. Other fans refer to Istanbul as a lucky win, but really Real had a lot more luck last night.

For me it depends on circumstances. The only manager in the world I would consider trading for Klopp at Liverpool is Simeone. For the vast majority of top-half clubs in the big leagues I consider those two the best. Emery, Wenger and Pochettino are similar but not quite as good IMO.

But if you are a club that can afford to spend Ł100m+ net every year (City, Madrid, Barca, PSG, Utd, Chelsea) then I would say Mourinho, Guardiola and Ancelotti are the clear best. They all have a track record of going to the big clubs and winning thing but none of them have built anything from scratch.

Unless I forgot someone, I can't think of anyone else that merits discussion.

Thats funny about Zidane. I mean are the  same people putting Di Matteo on their list. If so he should be higher than Zidane as surely winning a clubs fist ever European Cup is a better achievement than winnig their 11th

On the building from Scratch.  I honestly dont know enough about Ancelloti's early career to comment. However Mourinho did win the European Cip with Porto. Thats something.

I dont get the Guardiola wank fest.  Inherited the best club side since 1988 and then went to Bayern where at the moment winning the title should but you on par with the managers of PSG and Celtic but ultimately failed in Europe.

This post makes me look a closet Chelsea fan, so Im off for a bath, in acid.

[El Lobo]

Including Ranieri in there is insane too - for all his achievement of taking Leicester to the league title.

If I'd just won the league with Leicester I'd be a bit miffed if I wasn't talked about as currently one of the top managers in the world.

[The North Bank]

Trying to think of a reason why Pochettino is ahead of Wenger on some lists, ill keep going.

[Gerry Attrick]

Trying to think of a reason why Pochettino is ahead of Wenger on some lists, ill keep going.

When I wrote my list I couldn't think of any others  Was only after somebody mentioned Enrique that I realised Pochettino perhaps doesn't merit a place. Haven't been arsed to change it but yeah, Enrique instead of Pochettino.

[PIPA23]

except national team coaches:

1. Simeone
2. Guardiola
3. Ancelotti
4. Klopp
5. Mourinho
6. Tuchel
7. Wenger
8. Conte
9. Emery
10. Pocchetino
11. Ranieri
12. Benitez
13. Bilic

[The North Bank]

except national team coaches:

1. Simeone
2. Guardiola
3. Ancelotti
4. Klopp
5. Mourinho
6. Tuchel
7. Wenger
8. Conte
9. Emery
10. Pocchetino
11. Ranieri
12. Benitez
13. Bilic

Id go with most of that, though don't think Tuchel has done enough to be that high , and Benitez has done too much to be that low.

[PIPA23]

Id go with most of that, though don't think Tuchel has done enough to be that high , and Benitez has done too much to be that low.

i don´t count their past that much but today´s "form" and potential as well

[Kenny's Jacket]

Trying to think of a reason why Pochettino is ahead of Wenger on some lists, ill keep going.

Hhaha - Cos he finished 3rd in a 2 horse race. That takes some doing.

[andspecks]

Benitez won two La Liga titles with far less talent than Enrique. Benitez won Champions League with far less talent, and had Liverpool competing deep into Champions League contention over multiple years with less talent. Just my opinion. Like I said, Enrique's a good manager, it's just hard to place him considering the Christmas presents under his tree.

But I thought this was supposed to be a current list? What has Benitez done that tops Enrique in the last decade?

[Billy The Kid]

Went to coach Galtasaray, failed.

Then went to coach Saudi Arabia, failed.

Was Switzerland's manager till the last world cup, did relatively well with them to qualify to most major international tournaments (bar Euro 2012) but never did anything spectacular with them in the tournaments themselves. Now retired.

After failing with Italy at the 2010 World cup, he went to become the manager of Guangzhou Evergrande where he won three Chinese Superleagues, One Chinese Cup and one AFC Champions league. Now serves as the technical director for the Italian FA, a role he will officially start in after the Euros.

Like Lippi, after the World Cup failure with Brazil, he went to become the manager of Guangzhou Evergrande where he won the league, cup and champions league treble in his first season.
 
Scolari was never that good in European football to begin with on club level, Rijkaard seemed to have been the right guy at the right time for Barca but beyond that, his ideas failed miserably. The other two failed to adapt and dare I say, football has passed them by.

Wow. That's impressively informative of you.

Thanks for using Google on my behalf

[SwordInYourGut]

Simeone, the unquestionable and unanimous best, I hope?

[SwordInYourGut]

Rafa got sacked by Real, and the completely inexperienced replacement has done better. And now he's managing in the Championship. In the meantime Luis Enrique has won back to back La Ligas and Spanish Cups, won one CL and got to the semis of another. And we're seriously debating who is currently the better manager?

The 'couldn't fail to win things with Messi, Suarez and Neymar' is an absolute cop-out.

Neither Rafa nor Enrique should be on the list. Winning with that Barca team counts for nothing unless its a sustained period with a visible coach's impression on the team. On Benitez, yes Real are a sacking club but its incredible even for them to sack a manager within 6 months. A top manager should be able to deal with big egos, and Benitez failed catastrophically, as he has in the past.

[El Lobo]

Neither Rafa nor Enrique should be on the list. Winning with that Barca team counts for nothing unless its a sustained period with a visible coach's impression on the team. On Benitez, yes Real are a sacking club but its incredible even for them to sack a manager within 6 months. A top manager should be able to deal with big egos, and Benitez failed catastrophically, as he has in the past.

Ok so we're kind of making rules so we can say Guardiola was amazing for being dominant with Barca, but not Enrique. Right?

He's been there two seasons and literally the only major trophy available to him that he didn't win was the CL this season. People ranking him below other successful managers I can sort of get, but below guys like Bilic and Pochetinno? Winning the treble is less impressive than getting West Ham 6th in the league....?

[HighSix]

Really after the likes of Pep & Simeone it could be anyone depending on what you are basing it on.

[Keith Lard]

Got to say, if Everton don't make a move for Pellegrini then I think they are out of their mind. It would be a real coup and he'd turn them into a consistent top 6 club competing for trophies.

The work he did at Villareal, Real Madrid and Man City speaks for itself.

Plus he's a gentleman. His teams plays excellent football. A winner and top class manager in every sense.

[24/7]

troll tip - don't feed them, report them - thanks.

[Motty]

Bit Shocked wee Davie Moyes ain't on anyone's list. Born winer that fella.

[24/7]

Bit Shocked wee Davie Moyes ain't on anyone's list. Born winer that fella.

You missed out an 'h'..........

[SwordInYourGut]

Ok so we're kind of making rules so we can say Guardiola was amazing for being dominant with Barca, but not Enrique. Right?

He's been there two seasons and literally the only major trophy available to him that he didn't win was the CL this season. People ranking him below other successful managers I can sort of get, but below guys like Bilic and Pochetinno? Winning the treble is less impressive than getting West Ham 6th in the league....?

Not Bilic but why not Pochetinno? He has been successful at 3 different clubs now. Luis Enrique failed at Roma.

[aliverbirduponmychest]

This is completely meaningless fun - love it

These are the ones that stick out to me as being the world's leading managers, in no particular order ... who's missing from the list? I'm sure I've missed out a bunch. Let's do a definitive list first, and then start ranking

Guardiola
Simeone
Klopp
Ancelotti
Mourinho
Unai Emery
Conte
Pellegrini
Benitez
Zidane
Wenger
Pocchetino
Tuchel
Laurent Blanc
Joachim Loew
Del Bosque
Deschamps (France)
Fatih Terim (Turkey)
Marc Wilmots (Belgium)
Frank De Boer
Gerardo Martino (Argentina)
Dunga
Oscar Tabarez (Uruguay)
Jorge Sampaioli (Chile)
Zidane
Luis Enrique
Claudio Ranieri
Roberto Mancini
Massimiliano Allegri
Maurizio Sarri (Napoli)
Roger Schmidt
Villas Boas (hmmmmm)
Hiddink
Van Gaal
Brendan Rodgers
Slaven Bilic
Senol Gunes (Beşiktaş - Turkish Champs)

Where's Fat Sam or Steve Bruce?

[Motty]

You missed out an 'h'..........

Whining without whining

[24/7]

Whining without whining

HAHAHA WEYHEY!!!!!!!!!!!! Nigh swan, Centurion

[deFacto please, you bastards]

-Simeone
-Guardiola
-Mourinho
-Klopp
-Ancelotti
-Wenger
-Benitez
-Allegri
-Emery
-Conte

[El Lobo]

Not Bilic but why not Pochetinno? He has been successful at 3 different clubs now. Luis Enrique failed at Roma.

Wait....what?

You and I clearly have incredibly different definitions of the word successful. Pochetinno got sacked at Espanyol when they were rock bottom of La Liga, after some mid-table finishes, went to Southampton and had some more mid-table finishes and then finished third with Spurs. No trophies. Where on earth is the success in that?

I can sort of accept some of the slightly more hipster choices like Emery as long as they've actually won something. But Pochetinno? Successful at three clubs? Nah I think you're on a wind-up mate.

[Historical Fool]

Not Bilic but why not Pochetinno? He has been successful at 3 different clubs now. Luis Enrique failed at Roma.

Is Pochettino highly regarded in Milan, do you know? I know you're back in Liverpool now but how do the other footballers in AC regard him?

[_00_deathscar]

Wait....what?

You and I clearly have incredibly different definitions of the word successful. Pochetinno got sacked at Espanyol when they were rock bottom of La Liga, after some mid-table finishes, went to Southampton and had some more mid-table finishes and then finished third with Spurs. No trophies. Where on earth is the success in that?

I can sort of accept some of the slightly more hipster choices like Emery as long as they've actually won something. But Pochetinno? Successful at three clubs? Nah I think you're on a wind-up mate.

Emery is hardly a hipster choice. 3 European trophies is nothing to be laughed about, much less three in a row (when was the last time that was done? The Bayern/Ajax teams?)

No one's put him number 1, just in their top 10 or whatever - which is fair.

[El Lobo]

Emery is hardly a hipster choice. 3 European trophies is nothing to be laughed about, much less three in a row (when was the last time that was done? The Bayern/Ajax teams?)

No one's put him number 1, just in their top 10 or whatever - which is fair.

I wasn't really talking about Emery to be honest, I was talking about Pochetinno. Emery is a little bit hipster in that his side doesn't play particularly attractive football and don't have particularly great league campaigns but he's obviously a very good cup manager, so just a bit hipster but successful with it.

SwordInYourGut said Pochetinno had been successful at three different clubs..... He hasn't been successful anywhere.

[Xxavi]

Not Bilic but why not Pochetinno? He has been successful at 3 different clubs now. Luis Enrique failed at Roma.

"Successful at 3 different clubs". In football, you either go with the trophies won or some other clear achievements.

If by "successful" you mean doing well for the available resources, then, in Spain and Germany, there are about 10 coaches who do that EVERY season. The clubs are broke there, barely spend any money on transfers yet do well both in league, and if they are in Europe, they also do well in Europe. Why is Pochettino seen as such a huge success? Better or more accomplished than a coach who has won treble? That's a stretch. Enrique did very well at Celta, too, considering what he was working with.

[Xxavi]

In terms of my top 10, I really don't have one. I think there are about 5-6 top coaches at the moment, the rest is debatable:
Guardiola
Mourinho
Klopp
Simeone
Ancelotti

are the ones I rate most. You could make a case for
Emery
Allegri

to be the next tier. The rest are clearly debatable. I personally wouldn't include Ranieri in the list. I'd put Zidane and Enrique ahead of him. Ranieri is not a top 10 coach in the same way as Leicester are not a top 10 club in the world. If Ranieri was younger and if we didn't know his limits, you could put him based on potential. But he is an older coach, and the past season is a big exception rather than norm. We know that. It's like Michu scoring all those goals or something. A great season etc. but he just was not world class.

At least the likes of Enrique, Zidane, Emery and Tuchel have promising careers ahead.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

Not Bilic but why not Pochetinno? He has been successful at 3 different clubs now. Luis Enrique failed at Roma.

And Pochetinno failed at Espanyol. We could rounds all day, mate.

[Another Red]

Simeone
Allegri
Guardiola
Enrique
Mourinho
Ancelotti
Zidane
Ranieri
Klopp
Emery