Topic: José Mourinho - New Manchester Unted Manager. It's all right Bébé's coming back

[CrasherKid79]

£468.3M then. To answer your questions, For the money we've spent we should be winning trophies. We haven't done that (bar the FA cup) so i'm not happy about what's gone on since Fergie left. I'm optimistic again though. Mourinho is a proven winner and the players we've brought this season are top class.

How do you feel about liverpool spending £366.7M (same database and time frame) and not winning anything or even being favourites for a top 4 finish?

"Mourinho is a proven winner and the players we've brought this season are top class"

Can you get that on a banner to replace the chosen one flag? It seems to be the automatic answer yernited fans give, I've heard it repeated loads by the mancs in the office. Maybe if it's written in big shiny letters you can all chant it like true cult members.

[PeterTheRed ...]

According to Soccerbase transfers, this is the list of signings since Ferguson left..

Fellani        27,500,000
Mata           37,100,000
Herrara         29,000,000
Shaw        27,000,000
Periera        0
Rojo           16,000,000
Di Maria        59,700,000
Blind           13,800,000
Valdes        0
Depay        25,000,000
Darmien        12,700,000
Schweinsteiger   14,400,000
Schneiderlin   25,000,000
Romero      0
Martial      36,000,000
Poole               100,000
Bailly               30,000,000
Ibramovich   0
Mkhitaryan   26,000,000
Pogba      89,000,000
   
      £468,300,000

Those numbers do not include agent fees, loan fees and players' signing on fees. Also, lets not forget that they had the 3rd highest wage bill in the league when Ferguson retired, and now they have the highest.

[CrasherKid79]

Those numbers do not include agent fees, loan fees and players' signing on fees. Also, lets not forget that they had the 3rd highest wage bill in the league when Ferguson retired, and now they have the highest.

Rooney £15,600,000 per annum
Falcao  £15,600,000 per year ..... for fuck all
Di Maria £15,000,000 per year ..... See above

[Cantona]

"Mourinho is a proven winner and the players we've brought this season are top class"

Can you get that on a banner to replace the chosen one flag? It seems to be the automatic answer yernited fans give, I've heard it repeated loads by the mancs in the office. Maybe if it's written in big shiny letters you can all chant it like true cult members.

Like you all say "We have Klopp"?

[CrasherKid79]

Like you all say "We have Klopp"?

That's all you need 

[exiledintheUSA]

Like you all say "We have Klopp"?

At the end of the day we both have managers that are finely tuned to the beliefs and philosophy of our clubs; you could say both are perfect fits.  It's no secret how many people in the game love and respect Jurgen Klopp and you can understand why.  As for Mr. Mourinho, well, yeah.

[JohnnoWhite]

Quote from: Phil M on August 12, 2016, 03:02:47 PM

Just stumbled across this gem:

http://therepublikofmancunia.com/stats-more-reasons-to-keep-jose-mourinho-away-from-united/


"In conclusion, is Mourinho honestly the type of man you want in charge of United, regardless of the trophies he has won in the past, and could win with United? We’re not Chelsea or Manchester City, a club who has waited so long for any real success so will take it whatever way they find it, or buy it.We are United so surely we should have higher standards than just winning, however we have to do it. We shouldn’t have to settle for a manager who plays boring football, who is poor in the transfer market, who has no interest in bringing youth through, who will always be more important than our players and who has no class whatsoever. Whoever gets the job, and Ferguson keeps telling us that won’t be for a while yet, should be a better person than Mourinho."

I could have written every word of this post! I didn't but I 100% endorse its sentiments. Never wanted the fella that cheated us out of a well-deserved 2nd leg win back when he was at Porto. Cannot abide the bloke.

[Diomedieocre]

So the Portuguese pulis is getting you playing free flowing lump it into the box for the fatman football....should of saved your 150mill and brought in john walters and crouch.... 

6 foot five n hard as fuck...nose like an ardvark,  walks like a duck.

[21]

Wages not transfer fees (net or gross) is the proper dick measuring contest gents.

Historically finishing position is more correlated with wage bill rather than transfer fee - which is an arbitrary measure IMO.

Leicester the outlier on a 20+ year time scale.

Utd have 5 players on over 200k per week - Pogba, Zlatan, De Gea, Rooney, Schweinsteger.
We have 4 players on over 100k per week - Sturridge, Milner, Henderson, Firminho.

One Schweinsteger earns more a week than Can, Lallana and Coutinho combined.

Pressure on for Utd, with a total wage billl like that anything apart from top 2 and solid title challenge is a complete and utter failure.

[Skeeve]

Utd have 5 players on over 200k per week - Pogba, Zlatan, De Gea, Rooney, Schweinsteger.
We have 4 players on over 100k per week - Sturridge, Milner, Henderson, Firminho.

One Schweinsteger earns more a week than Can, Lallana and Coutinho combined.

Weird that you would pick him out as earning more than than our three combined when surely that would also apply to everyone else in their list except for De Gea.

[21]

Weird that you would pick him out as earning more than than our three combined when surely that would also apply to everyone else in their list except for De Gea.

The other 4 are starting XI players.
My point was they have a player who is totally out of favour on 200k paid more than three of our midfield starters.

[Peabee]

Like you all say "We have Klopp"?

That's just a statement. 

[Cantona]

I could have written every word of this post! I didn't but I 100% endorse its sentiments. Never wanted the fella that cheated us out of a well-deserved 2nd leg win back when he was at Porto. Cannot abide the bloke.

What will Mourinho have to do to change your opinion of him Jonno?

[AfricanBavarian]

Looking forward to see how Pogba deals with the big boys in the Champions League this season. I bet Real, Barca and Bayern are terrified.

Not anymore as afraid when he was at Juve[emoji42]

[SP]

What will Mourinho have to do to change your opinion of him Jonno?

Seppuku.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Not anymore as afraid when he was at Juve[emoji42]

I was joking.. they aren't in the Champions League this season

[Martind]

What will Mourinho have to do to change your opinion of him Jonno?

Become Liverpool manager.

[Rush 82]

Become Liverpool manager.

Piss off

[rocco]

What will Mourinho have to do to change your opinion of him Jonno?

I guess leave

[Barneylfc∗]

Become Liverpool manager.

You won't last long here

[Historical Fool]

So many people named jonno, who knew.

[Crosby Nick]

You won't last long here

You'll never make the station

[Hij]

You'll never make the station

[Kop 81]

JohnnoWhite, may I ask why you've got Shanks as your avatar?  I wouldn't dream of having Busby or Whiskeynose as my avatar.   

[Macphisto80]

Seppuku.

Laughed at that more than I should have.

[SP]

JohnnoWhite, may I ask why you've got Shanks as your avatar?  I wouldn't dream of having Busby or Ferguson as my avatar.

Matt Busby, captain of Liverpool?

[perspectiveplease]

JohnnoWhite, may I ask why you've got Shanks as your avatar?  I wouldn't dream of having Busby or Ferguson as my avatar.   

That's because you don't have avatars over on redcafe.

[MancEunuchian]

True, it was probably early for him but playing Rafael and O'Shea at CM ahead of him was ridiculous.

Was actually Park and Rafael in midfield against Blackburn.  Carrick played as a central defender that day. 

[SamAteTheRedAcid]

Matt Busby, captain of Liverpool?

[Red_Mist]

JohnnoWhite, may I ask why you've got Shanks as your avatar?  I wouldn't dream of having Busby or Whiskeynose as my avatar.   

I'm sure Johnno can answer for himself (hopefully along the lines of "what's it got to do with you?"), but it might be due to Shanks offering Liverpool first teamers to United after the Munich disaster. Just a wild shot in the dark.

[timmyonions]

I'm sure Johnno can answer for himself (hopefully along the lines of "what's it got to do with you?"), but it might be due to Shanks offering Liverpool first teamers to United after the Munich disaster. Just a wild shot in the dark.

Shanks wasn`t at Liverpool when the Munich disaster happened.

Johnno`s from the old school where men like Bill Shankly,Matt Busby,Jock Stean and the like all held the same values on football and life in general.

[Red_Mist]

Shanks wasn`t at Liverpool when the Munich disaster happened.

Johnno`s from the old school where men like Bill Shankly,Matt Busby,Jock Stean and the like all held the same values on football and life in general.

You're right. I'd just had the same thought.

Don't know why I had that in my head. Old age.

[Phil M]

JohnnoWhite, may I ask why you've got Shanks as your avatar?  I wouldn't dream of having Busby or Whiskeynose as my avatar.   

You know Matt Busby was a former Liverpool captain?

[Historical Fool]

More and more people named jonno.

[Coolie High]

We all dream of a forum of Johnnos.

[rscanderlech]

I'm sure Johnno can answer for himself (hopefully along the lines of "what's it got to do with you?"), but it might be due to Shanks offering Liverpool first teamers to United after the Munich disaster. Just a wild shot in the dark.

Or because he is an elaborate hoax and someone is making fun of everyone in the forum. Which other United fan hates practically everything about them and praises most things about Liverpool?

[4pool]

Or because he is an elaborate hoax and someone is making fun of everyone in the forum. Which other United fan hates practically everything about them and praises most things about Liverpool?

Now, now...

Johnno is as legit as they come. Old (ancient  ) school proper Red Devil.

[rscanderlech]

Now, now...

Johnno is as legit as they come. Old (ancient  ) school proper Red Devil.

Evidence?

[4pool]

Evidence?

You're new(ish) here.

The evidence has been discussed in older threads multiple times.

It seems every couple years someone else comes along who wants Johnno to prove himself again. Iirc..he's 72 and like I said proper old school.

If some don't want to believe, up to you. For a lot of us, Johnno has nothing more to prove.

[Red_Mist]

More and more people named jonno.

Based on my previous post, I should have your name