Topic: Typhoid Trump: the not-smart, corrupt, coward, loser, thread

[Red Beret]

Yeah like licking Diana's hand and generally being a big fucking weirdo.

I refer the honourable gentleman to GreatEx's reply

[redbyrdz]

New polls analysed by second nexus

Full article: http://secondnexus.com/politics-and-economics/new-poll-numbers-reveal-depth-problrms-trump/?utm_content=inf_10_1164_2&tse_id=INF_b95ef160f9db11e6a22fa5876bd4fd44

if you ever need a laugh, just looks at the anti Trump stuff George Takei posts up and look at the GOP snowflakes in the comments section.

Why is 'intelligence' one of his strong points? He is quite obviously dumb as fuck.

[Chakan]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more scarier...

Kyle GriffinVerified account
‏@kylegriffin1

Trump wants to expand US nuclear arsenal, make it 'top of the pack'—says US fallen behind in atomic weapon capacity

[Zeb]

Riffing on intelligence, really intriguing what senators are indirectly hinting at.

Maine Sen. Susan Collins, unlike many of her Republican colleagues, indicated during an interview Wednesday on Maine Public Radio that she might just be serious about investigating the president and his administration’s shadowy relationship with Russia. As a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Collins is involved in the probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, and said Wednesday she is open to the possibility of subpoenaing President Trump’s tax returns, as part of the investigation, to ensure he doesn’t have any untoward dealings with Russia.

“I don’t know whether we will need to do that,” Collins said. “If it is necessary to get to the answers, then I suspect that we would.” Collins also indicated members of the Intelligence Committee will be requesting former National Security Adviser Mike Flynn appear before the committee. It was not clear if those hearings would be held in private or in public. Collins’ comments indicate an increasing interest in probing the Trump team’s Russian ties although the Maine Republican’s willingness to compel the president to release, at least hypothetically, his taxes as part of a broader investigation goes farther than her Republican colleagues in the Senate. “All of us are determined to get the answers,” Collins said. “In some ways, this is a counterintelligence [co*]operation—in many ways—and that’s what our committee specializes in.”

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/02/22/gop_senator_collins_open_to_subpoenaing_trump_s_tax_returns_for_russia_investigation.html

* - I heard this interview on MSNBC, and am pretty sure she said "this is a counterintelligence operation". Slate has it differently and in a way which makes no sense.

[theMilkman]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more scarier...

Kyle GriffinVerified account
‏@kylegriffin1

Trump wants to expand US nuclear arsenal, make it 'top of the pack'—says US fallen behind in atomic weapon capacity

interesting. which advisor do you will try explaining to him he already has enough warheads to destroy the world 68 times over?

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Just when you thought it couldn't get any more scarier...

Kyle GriffinVerified account
‏@kylegriffin1

Trump wants to expand US nuclear arsenal, make it 'top of the pack'—says US fallen behind in atomic weapon capacity

bannon has admitted that the cabinet hires were done to ruin those departments, not that smart is he

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/02/23/bannon-trump-administration-is-in-unending-battle-for-deconstruction-of-the-administrative-state/?postshare=161487879490400&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.dce659d48ffb

[TepidT2O]

Louis Theroux is doing a documentary on trump and the alt right...

I'm sure he won't get access to trump, but could you just imagine??!

[Red Beret]

Why is 'intelligence' one of his strong points? He is quite obviously dumb as fuck.

Raised an eyebrow myself at that bit! 

[Lone Star Red]

Incidentally, if you voted GOP at any time in the last twenty or thirty years, you are very much responsible, and not voting for Trump does not excuse you. Trump is the natural outcome of decades of deliberately inculcated ignorance by the Republicans.

Or, you know, that whole thing where the Democratic party effectively abandoned the middle and lower class for the last couple decades. But sure.

[TepidT2O]

Or, you know, that whole thing where the Democratic party effectively abandoned the middle and lower class for the last couple decades. But sure.

Ok, so it's the democrats fault that the US has a government full of racists, religious zealots, antisemites and fuckwits then...

Cool

Oh... and the GOP had the president and a significant share in both houses for much of that time...

[theMilkman]

Or, you know, that whole thing where the Democratic party effectively abandoned the middle and lower class for the last couple decades. But sure.

yes, how cruel of them to try and give everyone healthcare, clean drinking water, higher education, and a livable minimum wage... they've really tried to screw the little guy over

[BarryCrocker]

Interesting that Trump has said he's going to crack down on 'human trafficking'. Think he's trying to mask his anti-immigration stance.

He's also confusing the difference between people being brought to the USA to be enslaved in prostitution/slave labour and people who genuinely want a better life.

He'll tell people who protest that against the wall that hey are aiding and abetting the human traffickers.

[SP]

Interesting that Trump has said he's going to crack down on 'human trafficking'. Think he's trying to mask his anti-immigration stance.

Is he talking about his wives?

[Party Phil]

Why is 'intelligence' one of his strong points? He is quite obviously dumb as fuck.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin

Put in that context, if the SCROTUS is not considered as above average intelligence by an overwhelming majority it's pretty worrying.

[kcbworth]

Interesting that Trump has said he's going to crack down on 'human trafficking'. Think he's trying to mask his anti-immigration stance.

He's also confusing the difference between people being brought to the USA to be enslaved in prostitution/slave labour and people who genuinely want a better life.

He'll tell people who protest that against the wall that hey are aiding and abetting the human traffickers.

I think that illegal immigration cabals should be shut down. Profiteering off other people's misery on the back of a crime is never ok

[SP]

Profiteering off other people's misery on the back of a crime is never ok

Trump profiteering of the back of Russian hackers' crimes?

[Zeb]

This really does look like the White House has tried to lean on the FBI to taint its investigation.

The FBI rejected a recent White House request to publicly knock down media reports about communications between Donald Trump's associates and Russians known to US intelligence during the 2016 presidential campaign, multiple US officials briefed on the matter tell CNN.

White House officials had sought the help of the bureau and other agencies investigating the Russia matter to say that the reports were wrong and that there had been no contacts, the officials said. The reports of the contacts were first published by The New York Times and CNN on February 14.

The direct communications between the White House and the FBI were unusual because of decade-old restrictions on such contacts. Such a request from the White House is a violation of procedures that limit communications with the FBI on pending investigations.

The discussions between the White House and the bureau began with FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe and White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus on the sidelines of a separate White House meeting the day after the stories were published, according to a U.S. law enforcement official.

A White House official disputes that account, saying that McCabe called Priebus early that morning and said The New York Times story vastly overstates what the FBI knows about the contacts. The White House official said that Priebus later reached out again to McCabe and to FBI Director James Comey asking for the FBI to at least talk to reporters on background to dispute the stories. A law enforcement official says McCabe didn't discuss aspects of the case but wouldn't say exactly what McCabe told Priebus.

Comey rejected the request for the FBI to comment on the stories, according to sources, because the alleged communications between Trump associates and Russians known to US intelligence are the subject of an ongoing investigation.

The White House did issue its own denial, with Priebus calling The New York Times story "complete garbage."

"The New York Times put out an article with no direct sources that said that the Trump campaign had constant contacts with Russian spies, basically, you know, some treasonous type of accusations. We have now all kinds of people looking into this. I can assure you and I have been approved to say this -- that the top levels of the intelligence community have assured me that that story is not only inaccurate, but it's grossly overstated and it was wrong. And there's nothing to it," Preibus said on Fox News Sunday last weekend.

CNN has previously reported that there was constant communication between high-level advisers to then-candidate Trump, Russian officials and other Russians known to US intelligence during the summer of 2016.

Several members of the House and Senate Intelligence Committees tell CNN that the congressional investigations are continuing into those alleged Russian contacts with the Trump campaign, despite Priebus' assertion that there is nothing to those reports.

It is uncertain what the committees will eventually find and whether any of the information will ever be declassified and publicly released. But the push to investigate further shows that Capitol Hill is digging deeper into areas that may not be comfortable for the White House.

The Trump administration's efforts to press Comey run contrary to Justice Department procedure memos issued in 2007 and 2009 that limit direct communications on pending investigations between the White House and the FBI.

"Initial communications between the [Justice] Department and the White House concerning pending or contemplated criminal investigations or cases will involve only the Attorney General or the Deputy Attorney General, from the side of the Department, and the Counsel to the President, the Principal Deputy Counsel to the President, the President, or the Vice President from the side of the White House," reads the 2009 memo.

The memos say the communication should only happen when it is important for the President's duties and where appropriate from a law enforcement perspective.

A Department of Justice spokesman said Attorney General Jeff Sessions is reviewing the memos and that "the Department is following the guidelines in its communications with the White House."

The White House and the FBI declined to comment publicly for this story.

The effort to refute the CNN and New York Times stories came as increasing numbers of congressional members were voicing concern about Russia's efforts to influence individuals with ties to Trump.

On February 17, the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence held a briefing with Comey. It's unclear what was said, but senators suggested there was new information discussed about Russia.

"Every briefing we go through we gain new information," said Sen. James Lankford of Oklahoma, a member of the committee. Lankford declined to be more specific about the briefing.

Sen. Angus King of Maine also declined to reveal what was discussed during the Comey briefing. In response to a question on Priebus' strong denial of the claims, King said he was "surprised" that Priebus would be "that categorical."

Rep. Eric Swalwell of California, a Democratic member of the House Intelligence Committee, said the goal of his panel's inquiry is to follow "leads wherever they go even if they may be uncomfortable to Republicans."

"The American public will want to know if the President had personal or financial ties to the Russian government," Swalwell said.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/fbi-refused-white-house-request-to-knock-down-recent-trump-russia-stories/index.html

[mallin9]

This really does look like the White House has tried to lean on the FBI to taint its investigation.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/02/23/politics/fbi-refused-white-house-request-to-knock-down-recent-trump-russia-stories/index.html

Wowza.  That's some pretty casual BLATANT NO SHITS GIVEN TOMFUCKERY.  Still, Hillary's emails, eh?

[BarryCrocker]

I think that illegal immigration cabals should be shut down. Profiteering off other people's misery on the back of a crime is never ok

I think we all do. But there's a big difference between human trafficking and people smugglers.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Is he talking about his wives?

no the people who work in his winery and country clubs

[mallin9]

Gotta love the assholes of CPAC

CPAC 2017 Two Minutes Hate, News bulletin 1- CPAC Chief Mugalug: "alt-right" is not us, we are not alt-right.  ...In fact I've never heard the term "Alt-right."  In fact, what is "alt-right"?  Are you saying you think I'm alright?"

CPAC 2017 Two Minutes Hate, News bulletin 2- STEVE BANNON ON THE MAIN STAGE

[theMilkman]

http://www.businessinsider.my/sam-altman-interview-trump-supporters-2017-2/?r=US&IR=T#wXCA1kPZmJQawqRi.97

Full respect to Sam Altman, part of the evil millionaire class the Bernie Sanders crew love demonising, for doing this...

A few choice quotes:

What do you like about Trump?

“I’m willing to postpone some further social justice progress, which doesn’t really result in loss of life, in favor of less foreign policy involvement, the opposite of which does."

“I'm a Jewish libertarian who's [sic] grandparents were Holocaust survivors.  Over the last few years the mainstream left has resorted to name-calling and character assassination, instead of debate, any time their positions are questioned.  This atmosphere became extremely oppressive and threatening to people, like myself, who disagreed with many of Obama's policies over the past several years.  Intelligent debate has become rare.”

“I like that he puts the interests of Americans first.  American policy needs to be made from a position of how Americans benefit from it, as that is the role of government.”

What don’t you like about him?


“I now believe the Muslim ban actually makes us less safe.”

“Isolationism and protectionism at this point is insane. We've done that before.”

What are you nervous about with Trump as president?


“I know he’s taking strong positions on certain foreign issues, but I feel in negotiations you need to do things to move the needle and when a whole country is watching its hard to keep a poker face, but at least his business track record overall gives us reason to believe ultimately stability will prevail.”

“I worry he will drive us apart as a nation.  I believed him when he said that would stop with the campaign, but I haven’t seen signs of it so far.”

“I am nervous that his mental health is actually bad.”

What do you think about the left’s response so far? The best section so i'm posting all

“You need to give us an opportunity to admit we may have been wrong without saying we’re bad people.  I am already thinking I made a mistake, but I feel ostracized from my community.”

“The left is more intolerant than the right.”  Note: This concept came up a lot, with real animosity in otherwise pleasant conversations.

“Stop calling us racists.  Stop calling us idiots.  We aren’t.  Listen to us when we try to tell you why we aren’t.  Oh, and stop making fun of us.”

“I’d love to see one-tenth of the outrage about the state of our lives out here that you have for Muslims from another country.   You have no idea what our lives are like.”

“I’m so tired of hearing about white privilege.  I’m white, but way less privileged than a black person from your world.  I have no hope my life will ever get any better.”
(the concept of White Privilege as it's used by many on the left pisses me off too, but ok... keep voting republican and wonder why your life's getting worse)

“I am tired of feeling silenced and demonized.  We have mostly the same goals, and different opinions about how to get there.  Maybe I’m wrong, maybe you’re wrong.  But enough with calling all of us the devil for wanting to try Trump.  I hate Hillary and think she wants to destroy the country of us but I don’t demonize her supporters.”

“I’m angry that they’re so outraged now, but were never outraged over an existing terrible system.”

“The attacks against Trump have taught me something about myself. I have defended him and said things I really didn't believe or support because I was put in a defensive position. Protesters may have pushed many people in this direction BUT it is ultimately our responsibility and must stop.”  ()

“I'd like to also add that the demonization of Trump by calling him and his supporters: Nazis, KKK, white supremacists, fascists, etc. works very well in entrenching Trump supporters on his side.  These attacks are counter-factual and in my opinion very helpful to Trump.”

“So far his election has driven our nation apart.  So far I see most of the divisiveness coming from the left.  Shame on them.  I don't see it quite as bad as during Nixon's era but we are truly headed in that direction.  I could not speak with my parents during that time because political division would intrude.  This Thanksgiving and holiday season were as close as I've felt to that in 40 years.  We are increasingly polarized.  It doesn't seem to be strictly generational, though that exists.  There is an east coast-west coast, rural vs. urban, racial, and gender division forming now.  It has the potential to be devastating.”

“The amount of violent attacks and economic attacks ( ) perpetrated by the left are troublesome.  My wife and I recently moved to the Bay Area.  I was expecting a place which was a welcoming meritocracy of ideas.  Instead, I found a place where everyone constantly watches everyone else for any thoughtcrime.”

“Silicon Valley is incredibly unwelcoming to alternative points of view.  Your curiosity, if it is sincere, is the very rare exception to the rule.”

“There is something hypocritical about the left saying the are uniters not dividers, they are inclusive and then excluding half the population with comments on intelligence and irrelevance in the modern world.”

Essentially, stop calling me a fucking idiot for being a fucking idiot. It makes me upset that i've been a fucking idiot as it hurts my pride and makes me want to dig into my fucking stupidity and may tempt me into doing more mindlessly idiotic things.

[Zeb]

Wowza.  That's some pretty casual BLATANT NO SHITS GIVEN TOMFUCKERY.  Still, Hillary's emails, eh?

When Lankford switches from "nothing to see here" to "yeah, we'll be doing an investigation", with a meeting with Comey inbetween, it makes you wonder just how long the lid stays on this.

[Caligula?]

Or, you know, that whole thing where the Democratic party effectively abandoned the middle and lower class for the last couple decades. But sure.

You can't abandon a people stuck in the past who think that mining is still good for the nation and that post-Civil War industrial factories are still a thing. They haven't been left behind or abandoned as much as they've just failed to adapt to the times.

It's also quite funny how these same types of people cry "communism" at every government social program yet blame the government for all their problems and expect it to fix everything for them.

[GreatEx]

re: Sam Altman, isn't it curious how in a bitterly divided society, it's always the other side that cause all the problems, even when that side tried to resist the great dividing force in the first place?

@Caligula: yes, the message from many Republicans seems to be "everyone should take responsibility for their own lives, unless it's mine, then we need an authoritarian government to turn back the clock, disappear into our shells and scorch the earth for future generations"

[Trada]

The US corporate state descends on water protectors standing against the construction of an oil pipeline on stolen land looks like a country under military law.

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

A motion for an injunction on the pipeline will be heard on Monday in a D.C. federal court.

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

 

46 arrested citing flooding and safety concerns.



 

[Red Beret]

No words... I really just despise the political classes right now.  The sheer greed and contempt towards human morality beggars belief.

At this rate removing Trump will be just a minor victory, maybe even just a pyrrhic one.

[GreatEx]

A motion for an injunction on the pipeline will be heard on Monday in a D.C. federal court.

I've had a few beers and at first I read your post as "a motion for impeachment is in the pipeline" and I got a bit excited, even though that would be too much too soon. c*nt's gotta stew in his own fetid juices a little longer, get that approval rating down into the 20s.

[Buggy Eyes Alfredo]

Trump had a meeting with manufacturing CEO's on Thursday. There he told Jeff Immelt, from General Electric, to tell everybody else about the time they played golf together.

Story goes that Trump stated, "I am the best golfer of all the rich people," and then hit a hole-in-one.

[stoa]

It's a shame that Tiger Woods' first name probably sounds too powerful for Trump, otherwise they could run together in 2020...

[MOZ]

Supreme Court advances lawsuit to nullify 2016 election:

http://www.learnprogress.org/scotus-advances-nullify-election/

[zebenzui]

My favourite quotes from that:

"Over the last few years the mainstream left has resorted to name-calling and character assassination, instead of debate, any time their positions are questioned."

“The left is more intolerant than the right.”

“I’d love to see one-tenth of the outrage about the state of our lives out here that you have for Muslims from another country. You have no idea what our lives are like.”

"I am tired of feeling silenced and demonized. We have mostly the same goals, and different opinions about how to get there."

Very few of the quotes in the article illcits any sympathy from me. Especially those made in a post-inauguration context - they won, they got their choice, now they have to fucking own it.

[Zeb]

Trump's back on twitter morning ranting about the FBI's inability to stop leaks. So safe to chalk up 'White House tried to interfere in the FBI investigation' as true?

The New Yorker has a good long article trying to place Trump and the interference in elections in a much broader historical context: here.

No reasonable analyst believes that Russia’s active measures in the United States and Europe have been the dominant force behind the ascent of Trump and nationalist politicians in Europe. Resentment of the effects of globalization and deindustrialization are far more important factors. But many Western Europeans do fear that the West and its postwar alliances and institutions are endangered, and that Trump, who has expressed doubts about nato and showed allegiance to Brexit and similar anti-European movements, cannot be counted on. Although both Secretary of State Rex Tillerson and Defense Secretary James Mattis have expressed support for traditional alliances, Trump remains entirely uncritical of Putin. “Trump changes the situation from a nato perspective,” General Shirreff said. “The great fear is the neutering of nato and the decoupling of America from European security. If that happens, it gives Putin all kinds of opportunities. If Trump steps back the way he seemed to as a candidate, you might not even need to do things like invade the Baltic states. You can just dominate them anyway. You’re beginning to see the collapse of institutions built to insure our security. And if that happens you will see the re-nationalizing of Europe as a whole.”

[Chakan]

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 46m46 minutes ago
The FBI is totally unable to stop the national security "leakers" that have permeated our government for a long time. They can't even......

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 41m41 minutes ago
find the leakers within the FBI itself. Classified information is being given to media that could have a devastating effect on U.S. FIND NOW

[Redman0151]

In lighter news

Klopp on Ranieri: "Am I surprised? No, it is not only football either...a few strange decisions....look at Brexit, Trump and now Ranieri!"

 

[Andy-oh-six]

Typical lefty elitism from Klopp. I'm sure Iain Duncan Smith will have some harsh words for his 'anti-democracy' views

[Mumm-Ra]

States' rights and small government, when it suits them and their donors:

Washington (CNN) — The White House said Thursday it expects law enforcement agents to enforce federal marijuana laws when they come into conflict with states where recreational use of the drug is permitted.

"I do believe you will see greater enforcement of it," White House press secretary Sean Spicer said regarding federal drug laws, which still list marijuana as an illegal substance.

Most drug enforcement operations are carried out by state and local authorities, with little involvement by the federal government. Enforcing marijuana laws has been considered a lower priority for federal drug agents, who have remained focused on curbing narcotics trafficking and combating a nationwide epidemic of opioid abuse.

Spicer on Thursday, however, linked marijuana use with the widespread abuse of painkillers, suggesting that allowing recreational use of marijuana could be interpreted as condoning drug use more widely.

"When you see something like the opioid addiction crisis blossoming in so many states around this country, the last thing we should be doing is encouraging people," Spicer said. "There is still a federal law that we need to abide by when it comes to recreational marijuana and drugs of that nature."

The bit about the opioid epidemic is just mind-blowing.

[Chakan]

Daniel Dale ‏@ddale8 1m1 minute ago
President Trump is ranting about anonymous sources. Wait now he's ranting about polls.

Daniel Dale @ddale8 17s18 seconds ago
Trump: The media is "fake news."
Trump: Fake NYT, NBC, CBS are enemies.
Trump: I didn't call media enemies, I called the fake media enemies.

Daniel DaleVerified account‏@ddale8 1m1 minute ago
President Trump: "I love the First Amendment," and the First Amendment gives me the right to criticize fake news.



Daniel DaleVerified account‏@ddale8 1m1 minute ago
Trump on town hall protesters: "How many elections do we have to have? They lost an election."