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« Reply #1120 on: July 8, 2015, 12:41:11 pm »
The NFL and Tottenham Hotspur announced on Wednesday they have reached agreement for a minimum of two games per year to be played during a 10-year partnership at the English Premier League team's new stadium in London.

The state-of-the-art stadium, due to open in the summer of 2018, will feature a retractable grass field with an artificial surface underneath that would be used for NFL games. This innovative field will add greater flexibility in the scheduling of games, with the NFL having its own playing surface for games held at this venue. This field will be multi-use and capable of hosting other sporting, entertainment and community events.

Both sports will have dedicated facilities ensuring that the new stadium, designed with a focus on atmosphere, will deliver the optimum experience for both teams and fans. It will be one of the most environmentally sustainable in the UK and also include a clear focus on accessibility via public transportation.

"With growing enthusiasm for the NFL in the United Kingdom, we are committed to hosting NFL games in world-class venues and are excited to partner with Tottenham Hotspur to play games at their future stadium," said NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell. "We share a vision and commitment to creating the best experience for our teams, fans and the local community."

The stadium is part of the Northumberland Development Project that spans more than 20 acres, sits at the heart and is the flagship scheme and catalyst for world-class regeneration in North Tottenham, delivering significant benefits for the local community.

Tottenham Hotspur will shortly be releasing images and details of the updated designs it has made to both the stadium and the wider scheme.

In addition to the minimum of two games per year at the new Tottenham site, other NFL games may take place at different venues in the UK during the span of the 10-year agreement.

"We have an opportunity now to deliver one of the most unique sporting and entertainment venues in the world, bringing together the EPL and NFL for the first time," said Daniel Levy, chairman of Tottenham Hotspur. "The socio-economic benefits this will bring to the area will be immense and demonstrates our commitment to the regeneration of this priority borough in London.

We have always underlined the importance of public sector support for the long-term regeneration of the area. This support is now clearly in evidence in the master plans that have been brought forward by the London Borough of Haringey, both through the Northumberland Park project to the east of the stadium and the High Road West scheme. These plans, alongside the commitments made by the Mayor of London and the Greater London Authority to infrastructure and public realm investment, and with the support of Central Government, demonstrate that there is now a collective public and private sector desire to deliver lasting change to the area.

This was an important factor for the NFL when they agreed to bring their hugely popular sport to Tottenham. I am delighted that we have succeeded in attracting them. We have a compelling and exciting partnership that will play its part as we begin transforming this area of Tottenham."

Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, the Mayor of London, welcomed the agreement.
"Anyone who has seen American Football at Wembley Stadium cannot fail to have been thrilled by the spectacle, and the wise heads that run the NFL have clearly not missed the fact that Londoners are going absolutely gangbusters for Gridiron," Johnson said.

"We are already working very closely with the NFL, including on plans to get more Londoners involved in the sport, and we believe that building on the success of NFL at Wembley by staging more games in an area of the city that has been earmarked for a massive program of economic regeneration and investment makes perfect sense."

"Touchdowns in Tottenham can only add to our reputation as a global sporting powerhouse, and help us take another step towards our goal of having a permanent NFL franchise here in London."

Claire Kober, Leader, Haringey Council, added, "It's tremendous news that the NFL wants to come to Tottenham, joining Spurs in bolstering our borough's reputation for world-class sport."

This huge vote of confidence further underlines Tottenham's future as London's next great destination, and shows real progress in our dedicated plan to bring economic growth to Haringey -- with thousands of fans spending money in local businesses and creating new jobs for our residents."

"In addition to bringing thousands more visitors to Tottenham, having millions of viewers from around the world tuning into live sports from the new Spurs stadium will undoubtedly put our borough on the international stage."

The NFL International Series began on Oct. 28, 2007, when the New York Giants defeated the Miami Dolphins 13-10 en route to a victory in Super Bowl XLII.

In 2015, three regular-season NFL games will be played at Wembley Stadium in London. The slate features a first-ever division game in the UK when the Miami Dolphins host the New York Jets on Oct. 4, as well as games played on consecutive Sundays -- also a first for the NFL in London -- when the Jacksonville Jaguars face the Buffalo Bills on Oct. 25, followed by the Kansas City Chiefs meeting the Detroit Lions on Nov. 1.

The International Series to date has contributed to increased NFL fan interest in the UK, with a current fan base of 13 million, including more than three million avid fans, a 50 percent increase in the past three years.

Participation in amateur football in the UK has risen since the start of the International Series by approximately 15 percent per year since 2007.

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Re: Spurs
« Reply #1121 on: July 8, 2015, 03:23:58 pm »
The NFL and Tottenham Hotspur announced on Wednesday they have reached agreement for a minimum of two games per year to be played during a 10-year partnership at the English Premier League team's new stadium in London.

Here is Generic bowl football stadium stock image the picture of the new stadium



Also the fact that it looks like a giant toilet bowl.
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Re: Spurs
« Reply #1122 on: July 8, 2015, 04:25:08 pm »
Here is Generic bowl football stadium stock image the picture of the new stadium



Also the fact that it looks like a giant toilet bowl.
That's the old plans and yes it looks generic. New one much better

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Re: Spurs
« Reply #1123 on: July 8, 2015, 04:25:54 pm »
That's the old plans and yes it looks generic. New one much better
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« Reply #1124 on: July 8, 2015, 04:26:32 pm »
Good move for them to pair Vertonghen and Alderweireld again in defence, after their Ajax-years.
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« Reply #1125 on: July 8, 2015, 05:36:49 pm »
Good move for them to pair Vertonghen and Alderweireld again in defence, after their Ajax-years.

How much did they pay for him Bukowski?

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« Reply #1126 on: July 8, 2015, 06:52:43 pm »
Is filling 61k every week a little ambitious? By 2018 you have Arsenal, West Ham & Chelsea in the same city with similar sized stadiums. There are gaps at Arsenal matches & thats with CL football + the top players.

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« Reply #1127 on: July 8, 2015, 10:54:15 pm »
Is filling 61k every week a little ambitious? By 2018 you have Arsenal, West Ham & Chelsea in the same city with similar sized stadiums. There are gaps at Arsenal matches & thats with CL football + the top players.

Their defence has not been good for a long time now  ;D

Seriously though, I think that increasing capacity to that amount is a good long term thinking idea. Future proofing if you like.

West Ham will struggle the most I guess, though if they got a serious financial injection of cash, that could change over the next few years.

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« Reply #1128 on: July 8, 2015, 11:10:00 pm »
How much did they pay for him Bukowski?
11,5 million pounds, rising to 14 million, I read.
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Re: Spurs
« Reply #1129 on: July 8, 2015, 11:51:05 pm »
a 17,000 seater single tier Kop stand for their new 61,000 ground? Impressive.

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« Reply #1130 on: July 8, 2015, 11:51:19 pm »
11,5 million pounds, rising to 14 million, I read.

Barely played for Atlético and now they're going to turn a £10m profit. Nice.
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« Reply #1131 on: July 8, 2015, 11:59:18 pm »
No cost estimates for the new stadium? Surely gonna be pretty huge.

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Re: Spurs
« Reply #1132 on: July 9, 2015, 12:06:57 am »
Middlesborough's Riverside really created a monster for football stadia.

Am i right in saying that it was the 1st generic bowl stadium in England.

So glad we're staying at Anfield and not having a unoriginal boring bowl type stadium.

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« Reply #1133 on: July 9, 2015, 11:58:06 am »
It'll be amazing when it's finished and full.

Imagine being booed off at half-time by 60,000 people instead of 33,000 people!     ;)

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« Reply #1134 on: July 9, 2015, 04:40:57 pm »
Before Tottenham fans get too excited they should consider a few aspects of this new ground .

I'll compare with Arsenal, pre move to the Emirates Arsenal had been a top 2 side winning the league 3 times & runners up 5 under Wenger with various FA cup wins etc etc & already about 8 or 9 years or so champions league football. Already giving them money & financially a very well run club .

They move to the emirates & they have a slight dip they now average 3rd or 4th but still maintain constant champions league football & its financial benefits.
During that time Arsenal sell quite a few top players such as RVP, Fabregas, Nasri, etc etc & make  some shrewd buys . Wenger has done a great job in reality & it's only the last 18 months or so he's started to spend big with Sanchez & Ozil. It's taken almost 10 years

Now Tottenham have none of this , not as good financially, no recent success of major trophys, no champions league, there average is 5-7th so with all the issues of a new stadium which in the long run will be beneficial they must get the transition right on & off the pitch .

If they have a slight drop like Arsenal that's 7-10th maybe by Tottenhams level .
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Re: Spurs
« Reply #1135 on: July 9, 2015, 08:08:02 pm »
^ It'll be interesting to see the monies involved in the proposed new stadium - and also the NFL deal, with just how much of a say/reward/percentage Spurs get in any proposed NFL team.
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« Reply #1136 on: July 9, 2015, 08:09:35 pm »


If they have a slight drop like Arsenal that's 7-10th maybe by Tottenhams level .

Which some would argue is where they belong. ;)
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« Reply #1137 on: July 9, 2015, 09:00:42 pm »
Is filling 61k every week a little ambitious? By 2018 you have Arsenal, West Ham & Chelsea in the same city with similar sized stadiums. There are gaps at Arsenal matches & thats with CL football + the top players.

That's largely because a lot of arsenal season tickets outside the corporate areas are owned by companies who use them for clients, but frequently don't use them at all.

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Re: Spurs
« Reply #1138 on: July 9, 2015, 09:45:35 pm »
Before Tottenham fans get too excited they should consider a few aspects of this new ground .

I'll compare with Arsenal, pre move to the Emirates Arsenal had been a top 2 side winning the league 3 times & runners up 5 under Wenger with various FA cup wins etc etc & already about 8 or 9 years or so champions league football. Already giving them money & financially a very well run club .

They move to the emirates & they have a slight dip they now average 3rd or 4th but still maintain constant champions league football & its financial benefits.
During that time Arsenal sell quite a few top players such as RVP, Fabregas, Nasri, etc etc & make  some shrewd buys . Wenger has done a great job in reality & it's only the last 18 months or so he's started to spend big with Sanchez & Ozil. It's taken almost 10 years

Now Tottenham have none of this , not as good financially, no recent success of major trophys, no champions league, there average is 5-7th so with all the issues of a new stadium which in the long run will be beneficial they must get the transition right on & off the pitch .

If they have a slight drop like Arsenal that's 7-10th maybe by Tottenhams level .

And Tottenham is not Islington. After a match at the Emirates it's a short walk to quality restaurants and gastropubs and bars on Upper Street. Around White Hart Lane...
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Re: Spurs
« Reply #1139 on: July 9, 2015, 09:47:59 pm »
Around White Hart Lane...

Go on Alan, what's around White Hart Lane... ;D

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« Reply #1140 on: July 9, 2015, 09:55:05 pm »
If they have a slight drop like Arsenal that's 7-10th maybe by Tottenhams level .

Given the timing, it would seem more like Arsenal's drop had more to do with the two oil clubs than being the fault of the new stadium's costs.

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« Reply #1141 on: July 9, 2015, 09:56:42 pm »
And Tottenham is not Islington. After a match at the Emirates it's a short walk to quality restaurants and gastropubs and bars on Upper Street. Around White Hart Lane...



Let's be honest around Tottenham it's a shithole & around West Ham it's a shithole , but we're West Ham are lucky is by moving to Stratford it's an improvement. Ok it's not stunning but you've already got investment with the Westfield shopping centre & other facilities & with the transport links you can be in & out back to central London in 10 minutes unlike Tottenham.

At Stratford you can go to the game whilst someone not wanting to go can spend 90 minutes next door at Westfield.
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« Reply #1142 on: July 9, 2015, 11:56:16 pm »
seriously they want to build 3rd biggest stadium in England? can they fucking fill it?
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« Reply #1143 on: July 10, 2015, 01:17:16 am »
At Stratford you can go to the game whilst someone not wanting to go can spend 90 minutes next door at Westfield.

Westfield or West Ham? What a dilemna!  ;)
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« Reply #1144 on: July 10, 2015, 01:21:23 am »
Still can't find any estimates for the cost. All I could find was an estimate of £400m for the previous design which was smaller and didn't have half of the (no doubt expensive) additional features.

Can see the cost of this easily approaching £500m at this rate.

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« Reply #1145 on: July 10, 2015, 09:19:57 am »
And Tottenham is not Islington. After a match at the Emirates it's a short walk to quality restaurants and gastropubs and bars on Upper Street. Around White Hart Lane...

Though to be fair, ordinary people might actually be able to afford to go to some of the places round Tottenham, which is less than can be said for the gastropubs and bars of Upper Street...

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« Reply #1146 on: July 10, 2015, 09:43:11 am »
Its only 5 miles down the seven sisters from Arsenal to Spurs, you can get on the victoria line after a spurs game and be in central London in 15 minutes. Attractions around the stadium are neither here or there. The reality is that the top 4 places seem almost locked down and spurs will never sell out every week when they are battling to get in the europa league every season. If they were winning things and playing CL they would sell out, there is a huge turn over of football fans in a vast city like London, who are dying to jump on the football band wagon and depart with their cash, but they need a successful team to support, Chelsea are the perfect example. Spurs have joined the party too late.

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« Reply #1147 on: July 10, 2015, 10:08:07 am »
Its only 5 miles down the seven sisters from Arsenal to Spurs, you can get on the victoria line after a spurs game and be in central London in 15 minutes. Attractions around the stadium are neither here or there. The reality is that the top 4 places seem almost locked down and spurs will never sell out every week when they are battling to get in the europa league every season. If they were winning things and playing CL they would sell out, there is a huge turn over of football fans in a vast city like London, who are dying to jump on the football band wagon and depart with their cash, but they need a successful team to support, Chelsea are the perfect example. Spurs have joined the party too late.

I didn't see much evidence of that last season to be honest with you. Mourinho's Chelsea and yourselves are probably the only two teams I'd say were certs to finish top 4. And neither of you impressed me really.

If teams like ourselves, Spurs and even perhaps Southampton buy smartly this summer and if they aren't hindered with injuries to key players, I can see them(Southampton to a lesser extent) having a right go at challenging for a top 4 place this season.
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« Reply #1148 on: July 10, 2015, 10:10:28 am »
Around White Hart Lane...

To be fair the locals did loads of refurbishment work there a few years back.

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« Reply #1149 on: July 10, 2015, 10:47:55 am »
Still can't find any estimates for the cost. All I could find was an estimate of £400m for the previous design which was smaller and didn't have half of the (no doubt expensive) additional features.

Can see the cost of this easily approaching £500m at this rate.

To be fair though,  Daniel Levy is not bad when it comes to the financial side, his record when buying footballers may not be so good..

I am sure he has got the financial side for the new stadium worked out.

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« Reply #1150 on: July 10, 2015, 10:50:40 am »
To be fair though,  Daniel Levy is not bad when it comes to the financial side, his record when buying footballers may not be so good..

I am sure he has got the financial side for the new stadium worked out.

Yeah they'll certainly have a plan, but I wouldn't mind betting that plan still sees a fairly huge weight around their necks for a while like Arsenal found.

Stadium sponsorships aren't huge in the UK, certainly not cover a £500m stadium huge.

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« Reply #1151 on: July 10, 2015, 10:55:50 am »
Yeah they'll certainly have a plan, but I wouldn't mind betting that plan still sees a fairly huge weight around their necks for a while like Arsenal found.

Stadium sponsorships aren't huge in the UK, certainly not cover a £500m stadium huge.

Unless Etihad is your sponsor!

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« Reply #1152 on: July 13, 2015, 07:29:37 pm »
LLoris has broken his wrist. Big blow for them

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« Reply #1153 on: July 13, 2015, 07:32:12 pm »
LLoris has broken his wrist. Big blow for them

They have Vorm though... Could have implications for United if De Gea is off.

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« Reply #1154 on: July 13, 2015, 07:34:22 pm »
They have Vorm though... Could have implications for United if De Gea is off.

Vorm was pretty poor when I saw him last season, though admittedly that was only twice. Certainly could scupper United's plans now, especially as Begovic has already joined Chelsea.

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« Reply #1155 on: July 14, 2015, 08:29:02 am »
Shouldn't make much difference to United - Lloris is only in danger of missing the first game or two. 
The transfer window doesn't close until Tuesday 01 September.  Lloris will be back by then, and as Spurs play United on the first game of the season, Levy wouldn't have sold to United before then anyway.

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« Reply #1156 on: July 14, 2015, 08:50:48 am »

Are they really building a 61,000 capacity stadium to have 600 more seats than Arsenal?

I suppose it might just be a coincidence? Otherwise they are pretty obsessed.
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« Reply #1157 on: July 14, 2015, 10:37:19 am »
Are they really building a 61,000 capacity stadium to have 600 more seats than Arsenal?

I suppose it might just be a coincidence? Otherwise they are pretty obsessed.

i wish we are obsessed too and build a stadium with 62k seats
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« Reply #1158 on: July 14, 2015, 10:38:05 am »
i wish we are obsessed too and build a stadium with 62k seats

Would you be happy if we also spent the extra £350m+ to do so to?

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« Reply #1159 on: July 14, 2015, 10:49:59 am »
Would you be happy if we also spent the extra £350m+ to do so to?

yes, why not? 
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