Author Topic: New Kit thread (Read 3573423 times)

Samie · « **Reply #5440 on:** January 21, 2015, 02:32:35 am »

Does that clown Noz work for Warrior or New Balance?

I mean did he design that home NB kit?

Yerolo · « **Reply #5441 on:** January 21, 2015, 02:52:27 am »

Quote from: LiamG on January 21, 2015, 02:26:57 am

So far away

No use counting down the days ... good chance they will renew their deal and we'll be subjected to more of their dross

Quote from: thejbs on January 20, 2015, 09:37:56 pm

Last few adidas kits have been head and shoulders over the muck that Warrior have given us.

Opinions and all that I guess ... but I hated those last adidas kits, it made the players look like their shoulders were 10x bigger than the rest of their bodies

Kashinoda · « **Reply #5442 on:** January 21, 2015, 03:07:43 am »

Our kits are always going to to be underwhelming with that bloody Standard Chartered logo in the middle. Calsberg is fizzy piss but looked great on our shirt, only really topped by Arsenal's brief Sega 'Dreamcast' sponsor.

diegoLFC7 · « **Reply #5443 on:** January 21, 2015, 03:07:53 am »

I dont rate warrior but the 13/14 kits were boss.

MerseyParadise · « **Reply #5444 on:** January 21, 2015, 10:55:30 am »

Get yourself to hat scarf and a badge and get yourself a T shirt. Put some money into the pocket of local business' and look like a fucking don rather than a wool

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #5445 on:** January 21, 2015, 01:54:20 pm »

Quote from: thejbs on January 20, 2015, 09:37:56 pm

Last few adidas kits have been head and shoulders over the muck that Warrior have given us.

That last Adidas home kit was atrocious imo, whereas the first home Warrior did was a thing of beauty.

Clint Eastwood · « **Reply #5446 on:** January 21, 2015, 02:03:21 pm »

Quote from: Vortigen on January 20, 2015, 06:39:44 pm

I haven't liked any of the kits since Carlsberg. The standard chartered logo is crap. Warrior designs are crap. It's all crap.

Yeah to be fair the sponsor doesn't help. Carlsberg was ideal.

The last adidas home kit was definitely the worst home kit I can remember. It was just so shite and depressing. The 2009 one was great though.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #5447 on:** January 21, 2015, 02:04:27 pm »

Quote from: redgriffin73 on January 21, 2015, 01:54:20 pm

That last Adidas home kit was atrocious imo, whereas the first home Warrior did was a thing of beauty.

I like you.

The first two Warrior home kits have been the best we've had in a long time. Not so keen on this year's.

Mind you, I didn't really like our kits in 2012, 2005 and 2006 and 2003 and we won trophies in them...perhaps it's our year!

paulrazor · « **Reply #5448 on:** January 21, 2015, 04:41:28 pm »

Quote from: Alf on January 20, 2015, 05:22:22 pm

Not bought a Liverpool shirt since Kenny came back in 2011 and don't think I'd buy another. I feel sorry for parents that have to by them for kids. The price of them these days, you could get a decent pair of trainers.

another myth

parents dont HAVE to buy them at all

JerseyKloppite · « **Reply #5449 on:** January 21, 2015, 05:13:32 pm »

Quote from: C(r)osby Bill on January 21, 2015, 02:04:27 pm

I like you.

The first two Warrior home kits have been the best we've had in a long time. Not so keen on this year's.

Think this about sums it up. Two really nice home kits, then this year's not great. Liked the first two adidas home kits but the last one was pretty poor. Maybe it's a pattern - two good then one rubbish?

Warrior away kits have been a really odd bunch. If you look at the designs next to each other on http://www.historicalkits.co.uk/Liverpool/Liverpool-change-kits.html they really do stand out as odd/experimental/zany/colourful. I quite liked the 2012-2013 away and the purple 3rd from that season though I know they weren't to all tastes. This season's 3rd kit is quite nice but I do wish it was a little simpler.

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #5450 on:** January 21, 2015, 08:40:01 pm »

Quote from: C(r)osby Bill on January 21, 2015, 02:04:27 pm

I like you.

Quote from: C(r)osby Bill on January 21, 2015, 02:04:27 pm

Mind you, I didn't really like our kits in 2012, 2005 and 2006 and 2003 and we won trophies in them...perhaps it's our year!

Yeah, as people often say, if you win something in it then the kit suddenly looks a lot nicer! (2012 aside obviously, that's still rank

)

phoenician · « **Reply #5451 on:** January 21, 2015, 09:13:50 pm »

I agree with the non-rating of the last Adidas kit.

It was the fabrication. I'm not an advocate of a seam at the shoulder, which is what it had.

Without going all Gok Wan, I prefer the arm and shoulder constructed out of one piece of fabric. The 2008-10 shirt that people have mentioned had this kind of construction. Without wanting to disqualify myself from the discussion, it's one of only two LFC shirts I've ever owned.

The seam-at-the-shoulder style shirt can look particularly bad on folk depending on what their relative shoulder and torso sizes are. It gets worse the more form hugging the shirt is. I'd say that's one reason the last Adidas kit was less popular than previous shirts with the same style of fabrication; shirts are more closely fitted at the moment. In general it gives a bit of an 80's 'shoulder pad' appearance.

Gods_Left_Boot · « **Reply #5452 on:** January 21, 2015, 09:16:46 pm »

The first two warrior home kits were phenomenal. The first one of those was arguably the best one we've had in quite a long time. I hope next year's one will look much better worn than it does in the picture, cause honestly it looks a bit shocking in that picture.

my usenme changed? · « **Reply #5453 on:** January 21, 2015, 09:55:13 pm »

Quote from: redgriffin73 on January 21, 2015, 01:54:20 pm

That last Adidas home kit was atrocious imo, whereas the first home Warrior did was a thing of beauty.

Agreed. And last years was really nice too. I actually bought this years too, I dont mind it, but Warrior has got the home the home kit right so far. That NB home one... hmmmm, not so sure. Will wait and see it in real life first though.

jsl2000 · « **Reply #5454 on:** January 22, 2015, 12:24:42 pm »

Quote from: cahalboyd on January 21, 2015, 09:55:13 pm

Agreed. And last years was really nice too. I actually bought this years too, I dont mind it, but Warrior has got the home the home kit right so far. That NB home one... hmmmm, not so sure. Will wait and see it in real life first though.

you do know they are the same company. same design team same manufacturing plant just the same with a different name.

CraigDS · « **Reply #5455 on:** January 22, 2015, 12:27:04 pm »

Quote from: jsl2000 on January 22, 2015, 12:24:42 pm

same design team same manufacturing plant just the same with a different name.

You got anything to back that up btw?

Not saying you're wrong, just not seen anything which confirms it either way.

Mighty Zeus · « **Reply #5456 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:42:41 am »

Quote from: Craig Cahoonas on January 22, 2015, 12:27:04 pm

You got anything to back that up btw?

Not saying you're wrong, just not seen anything which confirms it either way.

It's basically true... but it's not the whole story.

There'll be different design briefs and a different advertising strategy... brand core values and target customers and all that shite.

Warrior targeted young teens with semen-caked gym socks, as far as I can make out. New Balance believe that women have souls. It'll be different.

CraigDS · « **Reply #5457 on:** January 23, 2015, 11:46:08 am »

Quote from: Mighty Zeus on January 23, 2015, 11:42:41 am

It's basically true (assuming there hasn't been a reshuffle of personnel) but it's not the whole story.

There'll be a different design brief and a different advertising strategy. Brand core values and target customers and all that shite.

Warrior targeted young teens with semen-caked gym socks, as far as I can make out. New Balance believe that women have souls. It'll be different.

There will certainly be some crossover in the team, as there will be some within Warrior who have the specific football knowledge with regards to the technical aspects of the kit design (and boots, and whatever else NB decide to bring over from Warrior) - but NB will of course have their own designers too who are well versed in designing to their core values as you point out.

Was more the matter of factness that he made out he knows it's all the same that pushed me to ask if he knew something we didn't.

Mighty Zeus · « **Reply #5458 on:** January 23, 2015, 01:31:39 pm »

Quote from: Craig Cahoonas on January 23, 2015, 11:46:08 am

There will certainly be some crossover in the team, as there will be some within Warrior who have the specific football knowledge with regards to the technical aspects of the kit design (and boots, and whatever else NB decide to bring over from Warrior) - but NB will of course have their own designers too who are well versed in designing to their core values as you point out.

Was more the matter of factness that he made out he knows it's all the same that pushed me to ask if he knew something we didn't.

Oops. Right on. Didn't recognise your name. Ha! Thought I was responding to someone who wanted proof that NB owned Warrior. Forgive patronising post. X

CraigDS · « **Reply #5459 on:** January 23, 2015, 01:54:36 pm »

Quote from: Mighty Zeus on January 23, 2015, 01:31:39 pm

Forgive patronising post. X

Nope, it shall be remembered and revenge will be swift.

Mighty Zeus · « **Reply #5460 on:** January 23, 2015, 03:01:46 pm »

Quote from: Craig Cahoonas on January 23, 2015, 01:54:36 pm

Nope, it shall be remembered and revenge will be swift.

Fairy muff.

tripred · « **Reply #5461 on:** January 23, 2015, 05:42:17 pm »

Been thinking about these kits and I was wondering how many "leaked" kits end up being our actual kits?

Here's one from Feb 2014:

http://www.footballshirtculture.com/14/15-Kits/liverpool-2014-15-warrior-home-football-kit-design-leaked.html

for 13/14 leaked here:

http://www.liveforfootballshirts.com/new-liverpool-1314-away-shirt-leaked/

and 12/13

http://www.kopsource.com/new-201213-liverpool-home-kit-leaked/

They are all pretty much on the money so think that's what we will end up with

CraigDS · « **Reply #5462 on:** January 23, 2015, 05:43:59 pm »

Quote from: tripred on January 23, 2015, 05:42:17 pm

and 12/13

http://www.kopsource.com/new-201213-liverpool-home-kit-leaked/

Virus detected on that link.

tripred · « **Reply #5463 on:** January 23, 2015, 05:47:21 pm »

Quote from: Craig Cahoonas on January 23, 2015, 05:43:59 pm

Virus detected on that link.

I will try to find another mate

JAHBletch · « **Reply #5464 on:** January 23, 2015, 05:48:39 pm »

Quote from: Yerolo on January 20, 2015, 02:19:30 am

Hope this is not the true kit....horrible. The stitch pattern looks like it was cobbled together by a 5yo and that collar

Worst home kit since the last couple of adidas kits if it happens

Thats horrid. I like last years home but I am of the thought all Liverpool home kits should be v neck.

my usenme changed? · « **Reply #5465 on:** January 23, 2015, 06:00:42 pm »

Quote from: jsl2000 on January 22, 2015, 12:24:42 pm

you do know they are the same company. same design team same manufacturing plant just the same with a different name.

I know that Warrior are owned by New Balance, doesn't mean they're the exact same company, with the exact same people producing the kit. If it was exactly the same, why change? They're going down a different route (NB) and have halted Warrior. They'll make changes, do things differently. I just hope it'll be an improvement, so far it doesn't look like it.

houkura · « **Reply #5466 on:** January 24, 2015, 12:03:39 am »

Quote from: jsl2000 on January 22, 2015, 12:24:42 pm

you do know they are the same company. same design team same manufacturing plant just the same with a different name.

That's not true at all. Warrior are based in Michigan and New Balance are in Boston. That's over 700 miles away. They are owned by New balance but are a completely different company. I doubt they have any of the same design team or even manufacture in the same plants. New Balance produces clothing and shoes in the US, China, Vietnam and even (shoes) in the UK(!). Warrior uses plants all over Asia as well.

I work for a company owned by another that's thousands of miles away and our only connection is at board level. I suspect that is similar with Warrior but I am only assuming. Someone else here may know the dynamic better.

Mighty Zeus · « **Reply #5467 on:** January 24, 2015, 08:17:22 am »

Quote from: houkura on January 24, 2015, 12:03:39 am

That's not true at all. Warrior are based in Michigan and New Balance are in Boston. That's over 700 miles away. They are owned by New balance but are a completely different company. I doubt they have any of the same design team or even manufacture in the same plants. New Balance produces clothing and shoes in the US, China, Vietnam and even (shoes) in the UK(!). Warrior uses plants all over Asia as well.

I work for a company owned by another that's thousands of miles away and our only connection is at board level. I suspect that is similar with Warrior but I am only assuming. Someone else here may know the dynamic better.

As I've understood it, Warrior Football were based in Manchester. New Balance are using largely the same team, drawing on the genius that gave us tattoos on a football kit, odd-coloured socks and 'glory holes'.

Hey, I just remembered why Warrior are so utterly fucking shit. Hm.

Mighty Zeus · « **Reply #5468 on:** January 24, 2015, 08:19:32 am »

(Note: next season's kits don't look so bad to me, even if the home shirt is a bit meh).

CentenaryBoy · « **Reply #5469 on:** January 27, 2015, 03:17:19 pm »

Quote from: Yerolo on January 20, 2015, 02:19:30 am

Hope this is not the true kit....horrible. The stitch pattern looks like it was cobbled together by a 5yo and that collar

Worst home kit since the last couple of adidas kits if it happens

These pictures taken on a phone at a trade show somewhere in the US or the Far East never showcase the new kit at its best. I suspect this shirt will look pretty good when seen on a player in a stadium. The patterns on the material never really show up when you see the kit from a distance.

kb2x · « **Reply #5470 on:** January 28, 2015, 02:52:05 pm »

So.....

When's the third kit getting worn - Still not seen it this season... No doubt it will be a one wear wonder thats cost me £65.

Got it with CL Patches and printing, and we didn't even f**king wear it in the Champo's League! FAIL!

Nessy76 · « **Reply #5471 on:** January 28, 2015, 11:39:16 pm »

OH GOD IT'S HIDEOUS!

Haven't seen the new kit yet, but thought I'd just add that like everybody else.

Mo2000 · « **Reply #5472 on:** February 4, 2015, 08:04:04 pm »

New Balance have arrived officially.

Ben_ · « **Reply #5473 on:** February 4, 2015, 08:23:33 pm »

Bizarre that they ever bothered with the Warrior brand.

Mo2000 · « **Reply #5474 on:** February 4, 2015, 08:34:55 pm »

Test the waters with Warrior. It's been a success so now taking over without any damage to the brand.

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #5475 on:** February 4, 2015, 08:43:12 pm »

Quote from: Mo2000 on February 4, 2015, 08:34:55 pm

Test the waters with Warrior. It's been a success so now taking over without any damage to the brand.

Hasn't Warrior hemorrhaged money for NB in the football market?

Mo2000 · « **Reply #5476 on:** February 4, 2015, 08:48:43 pm »

http://mobilizer.instapaper.com/m?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F2015-02-04%2Fnew-balance-goes-on-offense-slides-into-soccer

lfc_col · « **Reply #5477 on:** February 4, 2015, 10:11:56 pm »

Quote from: Mo2000 on February 4, 2015, 08:34:55 pm

Test the waters with Warrior. It's been a success so now taking over without any damage to the brand.

It's been hit and miss well in regards to some of the actual kits

Mo2000 · « **Reply #5478 on:** February 4, 2015, 10:31:01 pm »

New Balance announce ‘record-breaking deal’ in Liverpool FC history
February 4, 2015 by Jim Boardman | 1 Comment
NEW BALANCE, the parent company of Liverpool’s current kit brand Warrior Football, today confirmed their move to rebranding their football gear under parent company’s name. At the same time, the Boston company confirmed a new kit deal had been signed with the Reds.

Mo2000 · « **Reply #5479 on:** February 4, 2015, 10:33:01 pm »

New Balance FootballHeralding their “entry into the globall football market” under the New Balance Football tag, the company said: “The announcement signifies a new multi-year kit manufacturer deal with Liverpool Football Club, a record-breaking deal in the club’s history.