Author Topic: Lucas Leiva and Joe Allen partnership (Read 22550 times)

Matt8Pie · « **on:** August 18, 2012, 05:00:10 PM »

Looks fucking great.

It'll take a while for Lucas to get back to 100% but the signs were there today that we have potentially a very, very good partnership in the team.

kcbworth · « **Reply #1 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:02:13 PM »

Looks fantastic. I think, though, we might have to get used to one of them being taken off or even benched for some games, despite them being 2 of our best players by the looks of things, as I think we'll probably play with more attackers sometimes.

Brilliant though. Really good.

۩ Maximus ۩ · « **Reply #2 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:02:26 PM »

Quote from: Matt8Pie on August 18, 2012, 05:00:10 PM

Looks fucking great.

It'll take a while for Lucas to get back to 100% but the signs were there today that we have potentially a very, very good partnership in the team.

LOOKS SO BOSS WE LOST 3-0 WITH IT!

SkrtelPower · « **Reply #3 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:02:43 PM »

How does it look great?

They got dominated by the likes of Mulumbu and Gera.

Lucas needs to get fit ASAP, I thought they were both poor today.

lord_anshul · « **Reply #4 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:02:47 PM »

I think it was really good. One of the only positives of the game. Unfortunately Gerrard looked out of sorts.

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #5 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:03:08 PM »

Quote from: ۩ Maximus ۩ on August 18, 2012, 05:02:26 PM

LOOKS SO BOSS WE LOST 3-0 WITH IT!

think thats more down to the formation and 2 players who need dropping now....downing and gerarrd

Coolie High · « **Reply #6 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:03:15 PM »

It wasn't great at all.

IndianaRed · « **Reply #7 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:05:05 PM »

our midfield had no presence in the game today tbf

Red Eyed · « **Reply #8 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:05:28 PM »

"Lucas Leiva and Charlie Adam partnership" - thread last year, few weeks later Lucas got injured

DELETE THIS THREAD

But seriously I think it will be great.

RideTheWalrus · « **Reply #9 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:05:59 PM »

Quote from: IndianaRed on August 18, 2012, 05:05:05 PM

our midfield had no presence in the game today tbf

Yeah. Pretty see through.

astowell1 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:06:55 PM »

Probably the best part of our day for sure.

Guz-kop · « **Reply #11 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:07:13 PM »

Gerrard was utter shite today individually with Downing and Borini only showing sporadic moments, but even as a whole didn't think we performed that well in midfield today in the first half. Kept the ball quite well but had no presence and intensity. Played too slowly.

It'll take time, let's see how it develops, on paper it's potentially a very good partnership and they will learn how to extract the width from our side.

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #12 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:07:23 PM »

i think the focus should be turned to certain aspects of the formation

thought they both did well but when the ball did get to where it was meant to go things just didnt happen because of the formation and where players were playing.
if we play gerarrd defensively we will be weaker imo.
if he cant play consistently in an attacking role then imo he should be benched.

downing needs to learn that he should be in the box when the plays on the otherside....such a basic thing for an "international"

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #13 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:08:25 PM »

Quote from: Guz-kop on August 18, 2012, 05:07:13 PM

Gerrard was utter shite today individually with Downing and Borini only showing sporadic moments, but even as a whole didn't think we performed that well in midfield today in the first half. Kept the ball quite well but had no presence and intensity. Played too slowly.

It'll take time, let's see how it develops, on paper it's potentially a very good partnership.

thats mainly down to movement...we have had this problem before ......some players are just unwilling or unable to make runs where they know they wont be getting the ball....thats team work.

SkinHimHesShite · « **Reply #14 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:08:59 PM »

they are good on paper. on the pitch today they were a yard off the pace and not committed enough at all. i don't know why this thread has been started after that fucking pathetic display.

Samee · « **Reply #15 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:09:52 PM »

As expected, they look really promising together. They just compliment each other so well.

Kopite B205 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:11:16 PM »

Far too early for discussions like this.

Discipline · « **Reply #17 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:11:33 PM »

Lucas will take 3 months before finding last seasons form imo.

Guz-kop · « **Reply #18 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:13:30 PM »

Quote from: G1 Jockey 4(betfair) on August 18, 2012, 05:08:25 PM

thats mainly down to movement...we have had this problem before ......some players are just unwilling or unable to make runs where they know they wont be getting the ball....thats team work.

It'll take time.

The "front four" didn't link up very well at all today so it was difficult for Lucas/Allen. We haven't been geared to play with width for a long time now. Even when we had Xabi a lot of the time our widemen or full backs were receiving the ball too deep rather than running into space. Lucas and Allen will be absolutely crucial in being able to keep the ball high up the pitch and bringing our wide men (full backs will play a big role) into the game. It'll take time.

Crackerjack Sam · « **Reply #19 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:13:52 PM »

Who the hell started this thread? I saw nothing, apart from two midgets being bullied by Morrison and Mulumbu. Please!

LondonRedMan · « **Reply #20 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:13:54 PM »

Very strong central midfield pairing. Allen was impressive today.

If we can get these two some good movement in front of them we will be I the up.

Would like Clint deuce Dempsey in front of them to help with penetration as well as Steve g

Lucas and Allen are as good as any central midfield pairing in the league. Let's do justice them by bringing in supportive players who are of a high standard

G1 Jockey 4(betfair) · « **Reply #21 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:14:11 PM »

tbf i thought first half everything was under control.

the partnership worked quite well.

the issue really is the other positions ahead of em.

br needs balls to make the tough decisions....unlike what our last few managers didnt have.

this time those players are too old/legs gone....so br has a much easier chance of doing what is needed .

sentiment is gonna cost us quite a few players next season otherwise.

Zaffarious · « **Reply #22 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:15:14 PM »

the shining light from today.

shook · « **Reply #23 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:15:34 PM »

Quote from: SkinHimHesShite on August 18, 2012, 05:08:59 PM

they are good on paper. on the pitch today they were a yard off the pace and not committed enough at all. i don't know why this thread has been started after that fucking pathetic display.

It wasn't that bad, more of an average display.

Lemieux · « **Reply #24 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:15:42 PM »

You can see the possibilities, but Lucas was relatively poor. Obviously it is expected though so can't be too hard on him. Need patience with him, I thought Allen was very good though, great signing it looks like.

scatman · « **Reply #25 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:15:50 PM »

first half and the start of the second they were brilliant. Can't blame them for wasteful forwards and useless forwards.

C@mry · « **Reply #26 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:16:21 PM »

Looking good, and it will only improve. We need Sahin as well.

djschembri · « **Reply #27 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:16:24 PM »

Lucas looked short of match fitness. Will take a while for him to get to his very best.

Need_a_bevvy · « **Reply #28 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:16:30 PM »

Quote from: Samee on August 18, 2012, 05:09:52 PM

As expected, they look really promising together. They just compliment each other so well.

I want what some of you lads are drinking.

They might on paper, but it did not work today at all. Hardly any signs of it working either, unless you are the sort of person that hears messages from the devil by playing Beatles records backwards.

And, I do say this as one of the biggest and long time (since his debut) Lucas backers on this site.

More of a team wide calamity today today which makes it harder for anyone to perform.

We did show some intent at the start of the second half though, until the red card. I will give you that.

Football is a team game afterall.

steveeastend · « **Reply #29 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:16:42 PM »

Quote from: Discipline on August 18, 2012, 05:11:33 PM

Lucas will take 3 months before finding last seasons form imo.

Outer Mongolian Red · « **Reply #30 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:17:04 PM »

I thought the Mulumbu and Yacob partnership for West Brom looked better.

Lemieux · « **Reply #31 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:18:14 PM »

What's sad is as poor as Lucas was, he's still our best DM. That's a big issue, need Sahin badly imo.

Camarero25 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:18:46 PM »

Thought Lucas looked properly rusty today to be honest. Poorest I've seen him play for a while.

But it'll come, they're both extremely intelligent players.

Chakan · « **Reply #33 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:19:06 PM »

Quote from: Lemieux on August 18, 2012, 05:18:14 PM

What's sad is as poor as Lucas was, he's still our best DM. That's a big issue, need Sahin badly imo.

Sahin isn't a DM though.

shook · « **Reply #34 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:20:29 PM »

Quote from: Chakan on August 18, 2012, 05:19:06 PM

Sahin isn't a DM though.

He could play the role, and - importantly - dictate the play from that position when we have possession

Spanish Al · « **Reply #35 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:21:23 PM »

Once this partnership is sorted, the whole team will then be settled. But this partnership needs to be worked on. It may take time, but I hope it clicks straight away.

Zelnaga · « **Reply #36 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:22:25 PM »

Boss! I wouldnt get ahead of ourselves. They looked decent but we got bullied in midfield, Lucas looks sloppy and Allen looked decent.

If we looked great today while losing 3-0 how would you describe them if we did win?

Crackerjack Sam · « **Reply #37 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:26:23 PM »

Quote from: Matt8Pie on August 18, 2012, 05:17:49 PM

Better call Sherlock to solve this mystery.

Honestly, if people can't see the positives in this partnership then I don't know how you can analyse football.

The home team, first game of the season with the crowd cheering for them, started off brightly as you would expect. They were always going to have the upper hand and be fired up for it. Just you wait for the season to progress and then come back in here when these 2 are bossing it.

Easy Lucas isn't match fit and Allen had a few touches here and there as well as giving the ball away. As for it being the partnership of the future. Ok I give you that we'll see how it develops.

Lemieux · « **Reply #38 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:26:27 PM »

Quote from: Chakan on August 18, 2012, 05:19:06 PM

Sahin isn't a DM though.

I think he can play there much better than Spearing can, which is our current cover. A recovering Lucas shouldn't be our number one option. I think if Sahin came we might see Lucas being relied on much less. We need Sahin before the City match. Judging from todays performance Lucas is off the pace and not ready to be thrown into the deep end against City and Arsenal. Would much rather see Allen and Sahin than Lucas and Allen/Sahin.

Chakan · « **Reply #39 on:** August 18, 2012, 05:29:29 PM »

Quote from: Lemieux on August 18, 2012, 05:26:27 PM

I think he can play there much better than Spearing can, which is our current cover. A recovering Lucas shouldn't be our number one option. I think if Sahin came we might see Lucas being relied on much less. We need Sahin before the City match. Judging from todays performance Lucas is off the pace and not ready to be thrown into the deep end against City and Arsenal. Would much rather see Allen and Sahin than Lucas and Allen/Sahin.

Lucas should always be the first choice. Spearing shouldn't be anywhere near the team, Sahin or no Sahin, but would be happy with Sahin for cover over Adam/Spearing.