Topic: Nuri Sahin, could be good.

[El_Capitán]

Xabi would keep out most of the prem so that is hardly something to throw at any player!

Exactly. Plus, I'm sure he was injured when he first signed for Madrid, which can't have helped him first-team wise. Quality player though. He's been playing at left back for Madrid in the preseason too, so he's got a bit of versatility about him.

[El_Pistolero]

No it's not.

http://theamericangoal.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/060210-5-gerrard.jpg?w=420

That was there because Mourinho wanted him, if Marca runs something to do with Real there's usually fire from somewhere within the club.

[lorenzo23]

Nope, he's a deep lying playmaker. Would occupy the CM position alongside Lucas.

Don't see it happening if we get Allen.

Why not? speak as is Allen(world class)  why we not allowed better option? why can't this be cause we selling Adam to fulham in dempsey deal? nothing wrong with having options specially when options are better than what you currently have in your team. Also if not mistaken when he first broke into first team he played more attacking off left wing for Dortmund(unless i thinking of some one else).

[El_Pistolero]

And, for what it's worth, I don't think we need him. Don't think he's the type of player we need.

[lorenzo23]

And, for what it's worth, I don't think we need him. Don't think he's the type of player we need.

Thought whole point of Rodgers system was to play possession football not sure why we wouldn't need him then again we selling are best footballing CB if you believe the papers.

[Carra-ton]

And, for what it's worth, I don't think we need him. Don't think he's the type of player we need.

Mourinho said that he is the new Xabi basically, when he signed him. So, you intend to say we don't need a Xabi like player?

[Acaustiq]

And, for what it's worth, I don't think we need him. Don't think he's the type of player we need.

If there's one thing we've got in abundance its players who can pass the ball out of our own half into the channels.

[Bob Loblaw]

Depends what we want, personally even though his development has been slowed at Madrid lack of games and injury he was far ahead of Allen.

One good season, followed by an injury plagued one, then not fancied by Mourinho. Far ahead of Allen might be a stretch. Way less risk with Allen too.

[Kovai Red]

Is marca a credible source?

It is just like LFC - Liverpoolecho for Real Madrid. Credible when it comes to Real madrid news, but becomes a Dailymail when it comes to other clubs

[El_Pistolero]

Mourinho said that he is the new Xabi basically, when he signed him. So, you intend to say we don't need a Xabi like player?

Yes I am. I got jumped on in the general transfer thread for saying it but my opinion isn't changing.

Rather an Allen than a Sahin.

[Kovai Red]

I also remember we were linked with him when Rafa was here isn't it? And also Ozil before both made their move to Real Madrid

[Number 7]

If we're going for Allen, I don't see why we would be going for Sahin.

[tubby]

If we're going for Allen, I don't see why we would be going for Sahin.

Agreed, it's either one or the other for me.  Sahin has played at a higher level for longer, but Allen has a bit more speed about him, which is something we're really lacking.

[Kovai Red]

If we're going for Allen, I don't see why we would be going for Sahin.

I dont think we are in for both these lads. It is either Allen or Sahin. Allen would be first choice

[Carra-ton]

Yes I am. I got jumped on in the general transfer thread for saying it but my opinion isn't changing.

Rather an Allen than a Sahin.

To be fair, I actually agree, because a Lucas - Allen axis will change the dynamic of our play, and people will take a long time to realize how good that partnership can be, but I also think that Sahin is a special talent, and I think if there is an opportunity we should get him.
BTW, I still haven't gotten over Xabi leaving, so anytime a deep lying playmaker is mentioned, it makes me lose sense a bit.

[Scouserpool]

Ooooohhhh
We've got the best midfield in the world!
We've got Nuri Sahin, Lucas Leiva
Gerrard and Joe Alleeeeeeeeeeeeen


nope. Don't work...

[RideTheWalrus]

For a reasonable fee, can't see how anyone wouldn't want him. Potential for his value to jump massively too.

[HighSix]

Getting both would kill Henderson! For me Sahin is the level above Allen but if Sahin is a loan & Allen a full transfer would go for Allen.

[lamonti]

Get Allen and him in for a year and we'd start having a working/actually possibly really good central midfield again. It's been a while.

Hoped we could do this last year. The Mourinho connection to Rodgers seems like an awful lot of "two plus two"-ing. If other Premier League clubs are serious about him, we may not compete for his signature. Then again, we were, allegedly at least interested when he was leaving Dortmund, so hopefully we'll have done our homework on him and would be ready to pounce if the opportunity to sign him on loan does arise.

[NealFrom25Yards]

Isn't happening. Apparently grouped us in with Newcastle.

Prefer Allen on a permanent deal anyway.

[eirwen]

Marca is not a reliable source.

Would love Sahin here though. We lack a playmaker.

[Nessy76]

So they didnt really go all out and say he's signing then. Therefore this example does nothing positive or negative for their reliability.

The Sahin story doesn't say anything concrete either, just that they "understand" that Liverpool would be willing to take him on loan or with a buy back clause (but not which) - something that probably applies to just about every club in the Premier League.

"Would you be willing to take Sahin on loan?" "Yes."

There ya go, that's the story.

[reds7]

I like the fact Rodgers is looking at more loan targets, makes sense to me if you can't buy the type of player you want due to certain limitations to do so. Mourinho link could help but as stated before, if he's being pushed out the door, it's unlikely he's gonna care where Mourinho thinks he should go unless he actually is in his future plans

[Buzz Killington]

He turned down Spurs because they didn't have champions league football, I doubt he'd come here.

[NealFrom25Yards]

"I would not be interested in a team that are not competitive, such as Newcastle or Liverpool. When I am gone, I would like to improve as a player and to do that I have play with other quality players, which I do not have at those clubs."

What a knob...also mentions being 'forced' to leave so I'm sure well up for it whoever he signs for.

[Anywhichwayucan]

He turned down Spurs because they didn't have champions league football, I doubt he'd come here.

Perhaps he was just being polite?

[greyfade]

He turned down Spurs because they didn't have champions league football, I doubt he'd come here.

you are a true reflection of your username

[Waka]

If we're going for Allen, I don't see why we would be going for Sahin.

Could be that it was maybe leaked just to hurry the Allen deal

[lorenzo23]

One good season, followed by an injury plagued one, then not fancied by Mourinho. Far ahead of Allen might be a stretch. Way less risk with Allen too.

You might be rite but who to say Allen will carry on his performance from last season? or even get better than he is now.

[El_Capitán]

What a knob...also mentions being 'forced' to leave so I'm sure well up for it whoever he signs for.

Where's that from? If he said that, he can fuck right off.

[SangPutride]

What a knob...also mentions being 'forced' to leave so I'm sure well up for it whoever he signs for.

Well, he left his boyhood club Dortmund, who just won the league with him (and got in the CL again after~ 8 years), to join Real for 8m. He was also the captain and one of their key players. Well, Dortmund replaced him with Gündogan (and Kehl became fit again) and won the league again.

I wouldn't want a player with that mentality/personality here.

[AnyGivenSunday]

A 'controlling' midfield quartet of Lucas, Allen, Sahin and Henderson to choose from would be very nice.  The likes of Gerrard and Shelvey would play further forward if that was the case.  Allen and Sahin in place of Adam and Spearing would be a significant upgrade imo.

[greyfade]

What a knob...also mentions being 'forced' to leave so I'm sure well up for it whoever he signs for.

what's the source, mate?

[greyfade]

I wouldn't want a player with that mentality/personality here.

He left Dortmund to play for REAL MADRID, who in their right mind would  turn that offer down?

If he did say that for us, then fuck him, but you can't believe everything you read these days.

[NealFrom25Yards]

German article from Bild. Saw it on the site which shall not be named.

Googling shows this Madrid forum, and a Spanish language Madrid forum where it seems to have originated.

Im Jahr 2011, als Nuri Sahin von Borussia Dortmund zu verlassen, beschloss er, die Welt zu seinen Füßen und der Wahl seiner Vereine. Barcelona, ​​AC, wurden alle für Manchester Los Blancos abgelehnt. Ein riesiger Club für eine große Spieler.

Seitdem konnte die Dinge nicht anders für Sahin Der Goldjunge aus der Türkei gegangen.

Nuri bestritt nur 10 Spiele in Madrid. Es war die Rede von Argumenten mit dem Chef Mourinho. Es gab sogar Fragen über Sahin Persönlichkeit in Bezug auf Verletzungen Phantasien ..

Heute ist er die Wahrheit sagt.

"Ich liebe Madrid. Mein oberstes Ziel ist hier noch zu gelingen. Ich bin ein Spieler und ein Mann, der nicht aufgibt. Deshalb ist es mir so weh tut, um diese falschen Berichte, dass die Dinge in meinem Kopf zu sehen und nicht in meinen Körper. Ich weiß, Schmerz und ich weiß, es ist echt. "

"Meine Beziehung zu Mourinho ist perfekt. Ich will ehrlich sein, hat er gesagt, ich spiele nicht viele Spiele in dieser Saison und hat mich ermutigt, gehen vorübergehend ausgeliehen, meine Karriere zu entwickeln und komm wieder ein wichtiger Spieler."

"Für mich ist es nicht die ideale Lösung, aber ich verstehe es."

In diesem Sommer ist anders als 2011 für Sahin. Statt zu essen an der Spitze Tisch ist er ein oder zwei Ebenen unten. Seine Verehrer kommen aus der englischen Liga und bestehen aus zweiter Teir Teams wie Arsenal, Tottenham, Newcastle und Liverpool. Wie immer Sahin ist nicht im Angebot seine Meinungen vorbehalten.

"Wenn ich gezwungen bin, vorübergehend verlassen England ist eine Liga, die mich interessiert. Ich habe immer Mannschaften wie Manchester, Arsenal und Chelsea bewundert. Tottenham sind ein interessantes Team und Mourinho hat mir gesagt, dass Villas Boas ein sehr guter Kerl ist. Es wäre irgendwie lustig, wenn Modric ging nach Madrid, und ich ging nach London "

"Ich wäre nicht daran interessiert in einer Mannschaft, die nicht wettbewerbsfähig sind wie Newcastle oder Liverpool. Wenn ich werde weg sein, ich möchte noch einmal als eine verbesserte Spieler und das zu tun, dass ich mit anderen qualitativ hochwertigen Spielern, die ich nicht an tun können, spielen müssen diese Vereine. "

Wie immer Sahin ist eine Freude, zu reden. Sein Gehirn neben dem Platz ist so groß wie sein Gehirn auf ihm, und seine Meinung immer ehrlich und interessant.

Er hat das Talent. Er hat die Leidenschaft. Jetzt wird er die Chance bekommen. Die Frage ist nur wo?

[reds7]

He left Dortmund to play for REAL MADRID, who in their right mind would  turn that offer down?

What? He was club captain, they'd just won the league and got into the CL after a long lay off. I'm sure the staff would have perhaps expected him to stay on at Dortmund rather than fuck off for less than 10m to Madrid. Some players are smarter than others and see through these bullshit deals and decide to stay and repay the faith and build on what they have achieved. I totally disagree with the 'who wouldn't want to go to Madrid' comment. Bet he's regretting it now, doesn't look like it was a good move at all

[۩ Maximus ۩]

Lucas

Sahin -- Allen

Gerrard -- Borini -- Suarez

Anyone???

[royhendo]

So it's cobblers then.