Topic: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here

[scatman]

And how do you know this? Regular City watcher or part of their coaching team or is it your opinion based on sweet FA ?

he's not wrong.

hardly does anything when he starts, but off the bench he makes an impact.

[Stan.]

Maybe the club don't think Agger is good/fit enough for the money he's on, or perhaps the money he'd demand for a new contract?  At 27 with two years left on his current deal, we're also never again going to be able to demand anything like what man city are reportedly offering at the moment.

I don't want to see him go, I think he's a class act and it's not just replacing him, it's getting a replacement to develop the sort of partnership and understanding he has with both Skrtel and Carragher, which can't be done overnight.  However perhaps the club see the alternative to selling him now for £20m+ as keeping an injury-prone player on big wages who'll go for a derisory amount or even nothing in a couple of years.

If we throw big money to keep him and he continues to suffer regularly from injuries, rarely plays and gets replaced anyway, the club will be seen as being reckless or overly sentimental with contracts.

I thought Kenny should've got another season here but he went because the club knew he wasn't a long-term oprtion.  Maybe they feel the same about players like Agger, no matter how talented or adhered to by the fans they are.

[HELLRAZOR]

I have to agree whole heartedly with this. Kenny is obviously a prickly character but some of his media dealings where cringe worthy last season. Rafa unfortunately had to go into defensive mode as Sky had a vendetta against him. It's nice to see Rodgers speaking with a bit of forthright clarity on things.

i think rodgers is saying too much but thankfully hes not putting his foot in it with the press on a daily basis ala hodgson.

Kenny was quite good at the start, really drove home the Liverpool way, had a bit of banter at times but by the end of his reign especially after Suarez-gate he was just coming across overly defensive and sounded like a grumpy old man.

Rafa handled the press well in my opinion. never gave much away

[isildurrr]

this is true.

but adam johnson screams talent.pace,dribbling and he can finish.

rodgers improved sinclair to a large extent,no reason he cant do that with johnson who has much more raw attributes.id fucking love johnson or tello to come here.

[eirwen]

Johnson is not that good. Don't want him, especially not at the price of losing Agger.
We should try to get Tello or Affelay on loan instead.

[Buzz Killington]

And how do you know this? Regular City watcher or part of their coaching team or is it your opinion based on sweet FA ?

He's not wrong though and believe it or not but people do actually watch other teams play.

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

Word amongst City fans is that Johnson is quite into the ale and being out late.
Hardly convinced his attitude is right.

[smj86]

Opta Sports ‏@OptaJoe

0.75 - The average goals/game conceded by Liverpool with Daniel Agger starting compared to 0.96 per match without him. Eyed.

The only relevant stat regarding Agger's contribution to LFC. Keep him please!!

[Aaron Cross]

20mil plus Johnson is a good deal but I still don't want to sell Agger, hes happy here, loves the club and wants to retire here, thats more important then the money isnt it? Especially if its someone of Aggers quality, I can't see him leaving to be honest, BR has said only a massive offer will turn his head, if City want him then they have to dig deep, 30mil or look elsewhere..

[El_Pistolero]

Hardly convinced his attitude is right.

Or his ability.

[Fromola]

i think rodgers is saying too much but thankfully hes not putting his foot in it with the press on a daily basis ala hodgson.

Kenny was quite good at the start, really drove home the Liverpool way, had a bit of banter at times but by the end of his reign especially after Suarez-gate he was just coming across overly defensive and sounded like a grumpy old man.

Rafa handled the press well in my opinion. never gave much away

For all the shit Rafa got for his 'handling of the media', Hodgson was 10x worse, Kenny was towards the end and Rodgers has a lot to learn.

Kenny was fine with the press until Suarez-gate. After that he just lost it with them and was really embittered by the whole thing. With regards to transfer he handled the media perfectly - just don't give them anything. "when we've got something to announce we'll let you know". Rodgers should learn from that.

[Sheik_Yerbouti]

Or his ability.

Well i think he does have ability, but that's only half of the equation.

[itsgunnabebarnes!]

Johnson would have to take a significant decrease in wages to come here .

[FernandoSusoLFC]

AJ no thanks.

[Bjinxi]

Hmm Canales has been sold to Valencia for around 7m € but Madrid have a buy back option.

Wasnt he linked to us aswell or am I wrong??

[Baz Smythe]

For all the shit Rafa got for his 'handling of the media', Hodgson was 10x worse, Kenny was towards the end and Rodgers has a lot to learn.

Kenny was fine with the press until Suarez-gate. After that he just lost it with them and was really embittered by the whole thing. With regards to transfer he handled the media perfectly - just don't give them anything. "when we've got something to announce we'll let you know". Rodgers should learn from that.

I think he's doing ok personally. The media aren't sticking the knives as they did with Rafa, he's not having a go at the media like Kenny did, and he's not alienating the fans or players like Hodgson.

[HELLRAZOR]

For all the shit Rafa got for his 'handling of the media', Hodgson was 10x worse, Kenny was towards the end and Rodgers has a lot to learn.

Kenny was fine with the press until Suarez-gate. After that he just lost it with them and was really embittered by the whole thing. With regards to transfer he handled the media perfectly - just don't give them anything. "when we've got something to announce we'll let you know". Rodgers should learn from that.

yeah absolutely

i loved that interview kenny did after we won 3-0 at wolves in 2011 (torres x2 and a meireles screamer). in a friendly way it was just "we know how the fans like to be treated, business is ongoing *wry smile* doesnt mean ive to tell you"

his defence of suarez was loyal and at times admirable but just way over the top. anyhoo im getting off topic here.

[CaptainSuarez]

City fans over on Bluemoon adamant that Mancini will not pay over £20millon for Agger. All of them want them to walk from this deal. still think he'll be a red come September.

[Matt8Pie]

I hate this quotation from Rodgers:

“Silva has left AC Milan for PSG for £40 million,” he said. “He [Agger] is one of the leading players in European football, so it is going to be a big valuation. Every player has a price and top centre halves are at a premium.”

If they're at a premium, and we have one of the best defenders in Europe, why is he available at a certain price?!

City fans over on Bluemoon adamant that Mancini will not pay over £20millon for Agger. All of them want them to walk from this deal. still think he'll be a red come September.

Good. I hope that's true.

[GreenLaneRed27]

Regardless of Agger, I wouldn't want Johnson anywhere near us. He's not as good as he looks in his cameos.

He's knows where the goal is tho!? I'm sure he scored
More goals in his cameo/sub appearances than our midfield did combined in a whole season??

[Red Eyed]

His tattoo proved he is a red Agger, Agger 

[Get]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeqV75f-jl0

0:25 sec

Massive Red

[IvanDobskey]

Don't want Adam Johnson, he's an exact clone of Stuart downing. And we all know how that one turned out don't we?

[CaptainSuarez]

I hate this quotation from Rodgers:

“Silva has left AC Milan for PSG for £40 million,” he said. “He [Agger] is one of the leading players in European football, so it is going to be a big valuation. Every player has a price and top centre halves are at a premium.”

If they're at a premium, and we have one of the best defenders in Europe, why is he available at a certain price?!

Good. I hope that's true.

They've made a massive thing about not being bummed in the transfer market. Really cannot see them paying the money we're asking for him, despite it being city.

[Alex7]

I hate this quotation from Rodgers:

“Silva has left AC Milan for PSG for £40 million,” he said. “He [Agger] is one of the leading players in European football, so it is going to be a big valuation. Every player has a price and top centre halves are at a premium.”

If they're at a premium, and we have one of the best defenders in Europe, why is he available at a certain price?!

Good. I hope that's true.

He's obviously saying the money City are offering is nowhere near enough for one of the leading CBs in the world. However, if money like £40m was offered, you really have no choice but to ask Agger what he wants to do.

[woof]

AJ is definitely a talent but he's not quite right 'up there'. Since he's on Manchester City's payroll, I'm not sure if he can cope with the "blue collar" feel of Liverpool. I'm sure he'll be kicking and screaming if Manchester City forces him out on loan

[ThisIsMickey]

Maybe the club don't think Agger is good/fit enough for the money he's on

Who represents 'the club' though? Rodgers said he'd rather keep him. So whose decision is it to listen to offers for Danny?

[tubby]

Don't want Adam Johnson, he's an exact clone of Stuart downing. And we all know how that one turned out don't we?

Have you ever seen him play?  He's much trickier than Downing and runs at the fullback a lot more.  The only question marks over Johnson are whether he can play at a good level for 90 minutes, because City only ever really use him as an impact sub.

[Hank Scorpio]

What the fuck is going on with this Agger thing?  Seems to have crept up on me.

[boots]

I think we can all remind ourselves that what is said to 'the press' and what is 'reported' by 'the press' is shite. That no conclusions should be made or inferred until it is announced officially. I find myself bamboozled by the analysis on a single phrase or word by some people. Its as if some people are looking for an excuse to get mad or wave their arms about. I have become convinced during my time on RAWK that the percentage or drama queens and gossip mongers increases exponentially during silly season. It is called silly season for a reason.

I want a good football manager. Not a well rehearsed PR representative. I judge on actions not words.

[Henry Gale]

Don't want Adam Johnson, he's an exact clone of Stuart downing. And we all know how that one turned out don't we?

He is nothing at all like Downing, A much better player and has the heart of a lion compared to Downing. Think we could do better and cheaper from abroad but he's still a lot better than Downing.

[lorenzo23]

Agger already showed one manager he won't be forced out the club(Roy) I confident even if bid was accepted he would reject a move if it was European team I be less confident anyone in England he will reject! Not just fact he massive read he has morals.

[HELLRAZOR]

I want a good football manager. Not a well rehearsed PR representative. I judge on actions not words.

there ya go

[AriGold]

he's not wrong.

hardly does anything when he starts, but off the bench he makes an impact.

4 goals 4 assists when started last season and 3 goals when brought on.

But don't let facts get in the way.

[Matt8Pie]

He's obviously saying the money City are offering is nowhere near enough for one of the leading CBs in the world. However, if money like £40m was offered, you really have no choice but to ask Agger what he wants to do.

Unfortunately I don't think Agger has any say in the matter otherwise this whole episode would've been over weeks ago.

[Asam]

Don't want Adam Johnson, he's an exact clone of Stuart downing. And we all know how that one turned out don't we?

Nothing like Downing, Johnson is full of tricks & skill, he does have pace but his dribbling ability is on a different planet compared to Downing who really just uses his pace or crossing ability to be effective, Johnson is also very good in front of goal, extremely composed finisher.

[Get]

Nothing like Downing, Johnson is full of tricks & skill, he does have pace but his dribbling ability is on a different planet compared to Downing who really just uses his pace or crossing ability to be effective, Johnson is also very good in front of goal, extremely composed finisher.

 

[Henry Gale]

4 goals 4 assists when started last season and 3 goals when brought on.

But don't let facts get in the way.

Yeah there seems to be a misconception on here that Johnson is the same as Downing, When the truth is there nothing alike.

[RyanBabelsFish]

Hmm Canales has been sold to Valencia for around 7m € but Madrid have a buy back option.

Wasnt he linked to us aswell or am I wrong??

He didn't want to leave Spain. He spent last season on loan at Valencia so it's just them keeping him on a  more permanent basis.

[YoungKopite]

It's obvious Adam Johnson can play but like others have said, his fitness to play 90 mins (can be worked on) is a concern and I also have slight concerns about his attitude too. Enjoys the night life and has said numerous times he's happy at Man City (hardly plays and if he does it's usually coming off the bench). I'd personally expect youngsters with talent like his to be fighting for a place and being unhappy in a similar position.

How was he at his previous club? Was he playing week in/week out?