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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2880 on: August 7, 2012, 04:01:54 PM »
I've no idea, and I've already asked this. I can't think of one City player since the Sheiks came in that they have signed as an unknown and he's became a first team regular. Which says to me they have spotted no one.

Hart and Kompany (£6m) are two. They've also signed loads of young players from all over the world for their academy and beaten us to a few of them. They've also worked for other clubs and in other countries as well

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2881 on: August 7, 2012, 04:02:21 PM »
I thought Ramirez was shiite

The Uruguay team in general were shite.  Ramirez wasn't

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2882 on: August 7, 2012, 04:02:23 PM »
They have notice periods so basically can't work for either club until they're up. Similar to sales staff or any type of worker who would keep lists or databases with clients (or targets in this case)

At the risk of sounding monotonous, who are performing their duties in the interim?

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2883 on: August 7, 2012, 04:03:21 PM »
It all depends on the deal dynamics. For example the word here in the States is the Dempsey deal probably wouldn't get done until the end of the window because Fulham's valuation was too high and they would wait to see if any other suitors emerged, if not they would then sell to LFC at the end of the window while Dempsey still had value.


do you see a problem for us with what you just wrote because I do.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2884 on: August 7, 2012, 04:03:51 PM »
I heard they had changed their minds and were now staying at City.
That  was another two we was getting as well.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2885 on: August 7, 2012, 04:06:39 PM »
At the risk of sounding monotonous, who are performing their duties in the interim?

Can't remember their names but they were mentioned on the Anfield Wrap yesterday

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2886 on: August 7, 2012, 04:07:39 PM »
Not sure why Suarez signing a new deal automatically has to be a PR exercise by FSG, surely it's a good thing that we lock in his value and we also send out a message that he certainly isn't leaving in this transfer window, so Juve et al can fuck off.

I don't think he will go or was ever going to, but ask Milan fans about who players who sign new deals, it doesn't empirically mean anything.

Surely signing up our best player on a longer term deal is of massive importance.

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I thought Ramirez was shiite

Be right then wouldn't you.

I would suspect that is because of the Olympics

In part, I think it's more to do with the notion we're on (or seem to be on) an FFP mandated paygo system and the kind of players we'd ideally be selling will go to bottom feeders who by implication turn up at the end of the window - there's not going to be any Lebronesque clamour for Jay Spearing, it'll be a last week deal to wigan or some such.

Ergo we can't spend their wages/fees until they're off the books.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2887 on: August 7, 2012, 04:08:02 PM »
Hart and Kompany (£6m) are two. They've also signed loads of young players from all over the world for their academy and beaten us to a few of them. They've also worked for other clubs and in other countries as well
kompany was not unknown you mad bastard ;D he was touted for greatness from a young age

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2888 on: August 7, 2012, 04:08:25 PM »
I think thats what im going to do from now on, i just figured id try help people stop panicking and give them a bit of info to smile about. I learned a lesson.

Don't let people put you off posting good news if you hear it from decent sources, some of us really appreciate it because at the moment its all doom and gloom.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2889 on: August 7, 2012, 04:09:00 PM »
kompany was not unknown you mad bastard ;D he was touted for greatness from a young age

and then went to Germany and was awful

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2890 on: August 7, 2012, 04:09:01 PM »
That's from Romeo and Juliet, not one of his sonnets. Just saying, like.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2891 on: August 7, 2012, 04:11:10 PM »
do you see a problem for us with what you just wrote because I do.

If the goal is to simply sign Dempsey no matter what, the you pay the 10 million asking price.

If the goal is to get the best possible deal in signing Dempsey, you wait and try and get the best price.

If you don't think we should sign Dempsey, fine, but that is a different issue altogether.

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« Reply #2892 on: August 7, 2012, 04:11:40 PM »
The Uruguay team in general were shite.  Ramirez wasn't

He wasn't great though was he. A couple of flourishes but a huge tendency to completely disappear from the game.

Mind you, Cavani was the biggest piece of shite in the whole tournament probably, clearly didn't look at all arsed. I think that Uruguay team just shows that their current crop of senior players and their excellent performance in the WC and Copa America needs to be given context - its Lugano, the Perreiras, Gargano, Muslera, Diego Lopez, etc who make that team great as much as it is Suarez and Cavani.

I'm not saying a player with Ramirez' level of technical skill or ability wouldn't be welcome at the club but for the price we're being quoted it see fairly crazy. It would be a lot of eggs in one fragile, flakey basket.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2893 on: August 7, 2012, 04:14:18 PM »
Hart and Kompany (£6m) are two. They've also signed loads of young players from all over the world for their academy and beaten us to a few of them. They've also worked for other clubs and in other countries as well

Kompany was a great player. Even before City signed him he was quality. They got him at a great price though. Didnt they sign Hart from Birmingham after he performed really well for them? Or did they loan him to Birmingham?
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2894 on: August 7, 2012, 04:14:25 PM »
If the goal is to simply sign Dempsey no matter what, the you pay the 10 million asking price.

If the goal is to get the best possible deal in signing Dempsey, you wait and try and get the best price.

If you don't think we should sign Dempsey, fine, but that is a different issue altogether.

no i have the fourth option which is planning on signing Dempsey but in the end miss out and have no time for a plan B

As for Dempsey on the fence would like a younger version but he did well last season, however all our buys last year were based on their last season elsewhere.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2895 on: August 7, 2012, 04:14:56 PM »
[quote author=lamonti link=topic=296117.msg10685143#msg10685143 date=
I'm not saying a player with Ramirez' level of technical skill or ability wouldn't be welcome at the club but for the price we're being quoted it see fairly crazy. It would be a lot of eggs in one fragile, flakey basket.
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What are they asking? He's not worth over 12 IMO

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2896 on: August 7, 2012, 04:16:53 PM »
Hart and Kompany (£6m) are two. They've also signed loads of young players from all over the world for their academy and beaten us to a few of them. They've also worked for other clubs and in other countries as well
hart is there since 2006
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« Reply #2897 on: August 7, 2012, 04:19:25 PM »
hart is there since 2006

Depends how long the scouts were there then if Hart is applicable.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2898 on: August 7, 2012, 04:20:10 PM »
Kompany was a great player. Even before City signed him he was quality. They got him at a great price though. Didnt they sign Hart from Birmingham after he performed really well for them? Or did they loan him to Birmingham?

They got Hart from Shrewsbury for £500k I think it was, then loaned him to Birmingham.

I remember a youth game where Shrewsbury played Cheltenham and my cousin was playing for Cheltenham, he thought the Manchester City scouts were there to see him, but it was plain to see Hart was the standout performer by a country mile!
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2900 on: August 7, 2012, 04:21:23 PM »
no i have the fourth option which is planning on signing Dempsey but in the end miss out and have no time for a plan B

As for Dempsey on the fence would like a younger version but he did well last season, however all our buys last year were based on their last season elsewhere.

That's always a risk and is factored into the price. If you're not willing to walk away from the deal, you have to pay up.

While I would like Dempsey in red, if we walked away from the deal over 3-4 million it does let people know we're not going to be bent over in the transfer market any longer.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2901 on: August 7, 2012, 04:22:23 PM »
Can see it now being a manic deadline day for us!

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« Reply #2902 on: August 7, 2012, 04:24:07 PM »
Can see it now being a manic deadline day for us!

All the funner :D The whole Torres/Carroll saga was wonderful to watch after years of us doing no business on deadline day.
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« Reply #2904 on: August 7, 2012, 04:25:54 PM »
That bit.

True story actually, my mate who is the spit of David Thewlis swears up and down he banged Anna Friel in the early nineties.
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My wife went to school with her, and she was a right stuck up fucker, never took school seriously, she was gonna be an actress from the age of about 13.

Little bit of useless info to try and lighten the mood.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2905 on: August 7, 2012, 04:28:18 PM »
All the funner :D The whole Torres/Carroll saga was wonderful to watch after years of us doing no business on deadline day.

Is wonderful really the word?

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« Reply #2906 on: August 7, 2012, 04:30:47 PM »
My wife went to school with her, and she was a right stuck up fucker, never took school seriously, she was gonna be an actress from the age of about 13.

Little bit of useless info to try and lighten the mood.
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is it her father who writes plays if so it would have been normal that she would be an actress.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2907 on: August 7, 2012, 04:30:49 PM »
All the funner :D The whole Torres/Carroll saga was wonderful to watch after years of us doing no business on deadline day.

Was it fuck. I was on holiday. The day before I left I sent an email to people in work saying 'Fuck you all, I'm away to Torresmolinos for the weekend.' The abuse I got when I returned was almost unbearable.
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« Reply #2908 on: August 7, 2012, 04:34:38 PM »
is it her father who writes plays if so it would have been normal that she would be an actress.

Not sure Geoff, the wife loves to regale us with the tales of how Anna was always losing out to other girls with boyfriends, and how she was shit at school, and how nobody liked her.  ::)

We saw her in Tesco about 18 months ago and she spoke to the missus like, I just stood there like a bit of a dick to be honest.
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« Reply #2909 on: August 7, 2012, 04:36:29 PM »
i think she has some connection to Brian Friel that was all cracking looking girl in Brookside as i remember.
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« Reply #2910 on: August 7, 2012, 04:37:54 PM »
i think she has some connection to Brian Friel that was all cracking looking girl in Brookside as i remember.

Possibly mate, most of us just remember 'that kiss'.  ;D
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« Reply #2911 on: August 7, 2012, 04:38:30 PM »
[quote author=lamonti link=topic=296117.msg10685143#msg10685143 date=
I'm not saying a player with Ramirez' level of technical skill or ability wouldn't be welcome at the club but for the price we're being quoted it see fairly crazy. It would be a lot of eggs in one fragile, flakey basket.


What are they asking? He's not worth over 12 IMO

If you believe the stories from Italy they want a good deal more, closer to €20m (not that they'd ever get that) and then a big chunk of that fee goes from Bologna to Peñarol (or so I'm led to believe). Again, take all it all with requisite summer transfer window handfuls of salt. He seems a fleetingly brilliant player. Those players never seem to make an impact at Liverpool, we seem to have more luck with grafters with a modicum of skill.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2912 on: August 7, 2012, 04:41:04 PM »
Not sure Geoff, the wife loves to regale us with the tales of how Anna was always losing out to other girls with boyfriends, and how she was shit at school, and how nobody liked her.  ::)

We saw her in Tesco about 18 months ago and she spoke to the missus like, I just stood there like a bit of a dick to be honest.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #2913 on: August 7, 2012, 04:41:28 PM »
I dont think the '£20 million' quote by Laudrup is meant to be taken at face value, meself. He probably means we would be getting a bargain @£15 million compared to the '£17' million we paid for Henderson. We are probably trying to get him for £12 million.

Agree. He's stating his belief that in his opinion, Allen is worth more than Henderson. Not Allen will be sold for £20m, but he's worth more than Jordan's fee

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« Reply #2914 on: August 7, 2012, 04:42:44 PM »
isnt 15mil his release clause
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« Reply #2915 on: August 7, 2012, 04:43:06 PM »
I thought you said I stood there holding my dick to be honest at first. I wouldn't blame you for it.

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« Reply #2916 on: August 7, 2012, 04:44:11 PM »
isnt 15mil his release clause

It's about time we found out.
It's getting late in the window.

Time to shit or get off the pot.
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« Reply #2917 on: August 7, 2012, 04:45:42 PM »
If you believe the stories from Italy they want a good deal more, closer to €20m (not that they'd ever get that) and then a big chunk of that fee goes from Bologna to Peñarol (or so I'm led to believe). Again, take all it all with requisite summer transfer window handfuls of salt. He seems a fleetingly brilliant player. Those players never seem to make an impact at Liverpool, we seem to have more luck with grafters with a modicum of skill.

Is that a sell on fee or is it some third party ownership bullshit?

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« Reply #2918 on: August 7, 2012, 04:51:09 PM »
A snippet from one of the better articles I've read on Joe Allen this summer.


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Joe Allen: What would he bring to Liverpool FC?
July 20, 2012
By Michael Luscombe


Joe Allen is one of the many talented up and coming young Welsh players and is known as the ‘Welsh Xavi’. Whilst he is not quite up to the standard of the arguably-Ballon-d’Or-deserving Barcelona midfielder, Allen and Xavi certainly have many similarities which has prompted interest in him from both Liverpool and Arsenal.

What are Joe Allen’s qualities?

Passing – Joe Allen had one of the highest pass completion rates last season in not only the Premier League, but also in Europe. He is extremely adept at keeping the ball. Allen has the intelligence to know which is the right pass the play, and the right pass is not usually the most difficult.

“I pass and I move, I help you, I look for you, I stop, I raise my head, I look and, above all, I open up the pitch.” – Xavi Hernandez

Whilst this sounds incredibly simple (and it is), it is exactly what Allen moulds his game on. Simple tends to denote something that lacks quality but in this instance having the ability to play simplistically requires an enormous amount of awareness, technical ability, appreciation of space and obviously, talent.

Energy - Joe Allen has a very high work-rate. Extremely energetic, Allen is constantly on the move whether it be looking for space to offer an option to a team mate, dragging an opposition player away to create space or when the opposition have the ball, pressing high and quickly to ensure it is won back as soon as possible. This sort of energy not only endears him to fans but is also contagious and causes the players around him to give that extra 10%.

System – Joe Allen has featured for Brendan Rodgers for the last two season and knows the system Rodgers wants to implement like the back of his hand. Knowing when to press, when to rest with the ball and when to look for the killer pass is something that will take time for the Liverpool squad to master; were Allen to arrive his knowledge of the system could be extremely helpful in smoothing the transition between how the Reds played last season to a more ‘tika taka’ version of the pass and move philosophy Kenny Dalglish implemented.

Youth - Aged 22, Joe Allen’s career is only just starting, and whilst it could be a concern that he has only played 1 season at the highest level, it could also be argued that the fact he performed so admirably at such a young age, in his first season in the Premier League, is a cause for much hope.

Allen fits the philosophy that FSG have instilled (to varying degrees of success) in the club, the emphasis being on young players who will grow and improve with time whilst also commanding a transfer fee that will hopefully be less than what they could potentially be sold on for in the future. Given that so far in his career Allen has been surrounded by average players, surrounding himself at a bigger club with world class players such as Steven Gerrard and Luis Suarez, can only be good for his development and could lead to Allen progressing into a very good player.

Where would he fit in at Liverpool and is he needed?

For Swansea, Allen played the role of sitting in between the most advanced midfield player (Gylfi Sigurdsson) and the deepest midfielder (Leon Britton). This more or less meant he was the link between the defensive minded players and the attack minded players, and this is exactly what he was – a link.

Joe Allen’s primary objective was the receive the ball in space and move it on quickly and intelligently, either backwards or forwards depending on the phase in play. He would also be the midfielder that carried the ball from deep if there was open grass in front of him and be one of the first to press high up the pitch when the ball was lost, given his more advanced positioning than Britton. Were he to sign for Liverpool this is exactly the role he would play, although he is versatile enough to perform a job as the anchor or the most advanced midfielder, though these aren’t where he is best suited.

Since Steven Gerrard and Lucas Leiva’s places in the team are almost guaranteed providing they are fit, Allen would be in direct competition with Alberto Aquilani (if he stays), Jordan Henderson and Charlie Adam. Given that Joe Allen and Jordan Henderson possess very similar qualities, unless Aquilani and Adam were to leave (which is quite possible) you could argue that signing Allen would be a waste of Liverpool’s limited budget – thought by some to be £20m plus sales – as there are more areas in more urgent need of improvement, namely the left wing, up front, and a defensive midfielder.


http://www.theliverpoolword.com/2012/07/liverpool-transfer-target-joe-allen-what-would-he-bring-to-lfc/
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