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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1720 on: August 6, 2012, 11:13:46 PM »
Sell Agger to buy Dempsey? luckily it's the Mirror but it's a sad time when news from such a clownish newspapers can be so believable.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1721 on: August 6, 2012, 11:14:32 PM »
People forgetting that we have offered Agger a contract then? People saying it's nailed on he'll go are a tad premature. Lots of factors to come into play still.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1722 on: August 6, 2012, 11:14:33 PM »
We should offload those who are not part of our core. That's how we are most likely to improve.

I don't think there's a queue of clubs for those players & it'll take more than one transfer window to offload them.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1723 on: August 6, 2012, 11:14:44 PM »
Sell Agger to buy Dempsey? luckily it's the Mirror but it's a sad time when news from such a clownish newspapers can be so believable.

How is it any different? People can't wait to start believing the doom and gloom stories, and scrutinizing the shit out of positive news.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1724 on: August 6, 2012, 11:15:18 PM »
Because he is one of our best defenders.

Just imagine our attack last season without Suarez.

We did, for 9 games, wasnt that bad actually.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1725 on: August 6, 2012, 11:16:05 PM »
tell city to fuck off, and approach them with a 10m offer for johnson at the end of the window. johnson isn't wanted by city, thats clear if he's being offered as part of the deal.

i swear it looks like we are being run by a bunch of muppets, i should be in charge of transfers.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1726 on: August 6, 2012, 11:16:11 PM »
Being a football manager entails tough decisions....


Selling a good player to bring in other payers in weaker positions is always going to be a tough decision.


It takes foresight, judgement and balls of steel to make these decisions and get them right...

Now, personally, I wouldn't sell Agger, but it seems BR thinks he will have a stronger squad by doing so.

Can't slaughter him for that until we see if he's right or not, that means we have to be patient and wait until we see the results of it...... It might turn out to be a master stroke who knows?

When Rafa came in he had to sell a really good injury prone player too, brought in alonso with the money.

Sometimes these decisions pay off.  Let's see eh?
Really hope your not talking about Adam brother that just left Fulham or That scum owen that wanted to leave bit different from Agger not wanting to leave no?
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1727 on: August 6, 2012, 11:16:27 PM »
Time will tell, why not try and actually see what happens...?

Because I really want Liverpool to be boss again and I'm convinced that the ownership don't really care whether we're boss or not so long as they make a profit.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1728 on: August 6, 2012, 11:16:30 PM »
I think he is.

Reina, Agger, Skrtel, Lucas, Gerrard, Suarez all our 'Key' players and all as important as eachother in their individual roles

Exactly, thats half a CL winning team. Instead of adding another half, we're pulling it apart.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1729 on: August 6, 2012, 11:16:54 PM »
How is it any different? People can't wait to start believing the doom and gloom stories, and scrutinizing the shit out of positive news.

positive news? where? must've missed that. all I hear is talk of selling our best players.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1730 on: August 6, 2012, 11:16:55 PM »
Sell Agger to buy Dempsey? luckily it's the Mirror but it's a sad time when news from such a clownish newspapers can be so believable.

It is a sad time but people are willing to believe any old shite if it gets them excited, or allows them to bitch and whinge about the owners/the manager/the players.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1731 on: August 6, 2012, 11:17:30 PM »
But why havent we got any resources? We got a season ticket list as long as anything, we have massive tours every year, we sell loads of merchandise, we have big deals with major brands and lucrative tv rights.

Where is all that money going?

Over 70% of the clubs total turnover goes to player wages; that's where all the money is going, and it's unsustainable.

Remember that when people talk about how Gerrard "deserves" 136k a week to play half the season, because he's a legend etc.

or Andy Carroll getting paid 80k per week to score a goal every 550 minutes. And so forth.

Agger is a very good player but if someone offers 20 million you have to consider it. He could get hurt again in October and be out for the year, then you're left with a 28 year old player with a year left on his contract coming off injury and worth hardly anything.

Agger will have to be replaced in the next year or so regardless; the only question is whether City (or whomever) will pay for that replacement.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1732 on: August 6, 2012, 11:17:56 PM »
Serious question, do we believe there are any Liverpool players that currently do not have a price? Is there a Liverpool player that, if a wealthy club comes hunting, would not be considered for sale. There may be a limit on the number but it does not feel like there any hands off signs up at this moment. If Real wanted Lucas or PSG wanted Suarez, would we just say no or would it be a case of the price.

And another serious point, why does it appear that all those players that most fans would suggest are not the source of great confidence are those who also appear (I may be wrong, who knows what goes on behind the scenes) not to be being actively marketed.

It would take a very good PR department to convince me that Carroll, Skrtel, Agger and Bellamy are not being actively marketed/having offers considered and the 'you know who's' are.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1733 on: August 6, 2012, 11:18:08 PM »
Really hope your not talking about Adam brother that just left Fulham or That scum owen that wanted to leave bit different from Agger not wanting to leave no?
Not really that different....going for different reasons maybe, but the end result is exactly the same..

You lose a good player and have money to reinvest.  Sometimes it works brilliantly.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1734 on: August 6, 2012, 11:18:19 PM »
The club is very clearly putting him up for sale. A week of media leaks and Man City bids are not apparitions.

The club very clearly isnt... The clubs staying silent as we expect them to do, its how we want things to be "the liverpool way" fact is we have offered danny a new contract we're also not entertaining the £18m bid now thats not to say if a ridiculous bid comes in for him that we wont consider it... And IF he's sold the cash goes to brendan to spend.

And we dont have to "sell to buy" will players be moved on? Sure its happening at lots of clubs around the world.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1735 on: August 6, 2012, 11:18:28 PM »
Serious question, do we believe there are any Liverpool players that currently do not have a price? Is there a Liverpool player that, if a wealthy club comes hunting, would not be considered for sale. There may be a limit on the number but it does not feel like there any hands off signs up at this moment. If Real wanted Lucas or PSG wanted Suarez, would we just say no or would it be a case of the price.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1736 on: August 6, 2012, 11:18:44 PM »
Why would you sell one of the best defenders in the league, who was part of one of the best defense last season. Don't sell our Dane. End of.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1737 on: August 6, 2012, 11:18:51 PM »
We did, for 9 games, wasnt that bad actually.
won just two league games at that point.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1738 on: August 6, 2012, 11:18:52 PM »
I don't think there's a queue of clubs for those players & it'll take more than one transfer window to offload them.

The clubs we'll be selling our cast offs too are bottom feeders, by implication they tend to be last at the trough.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1739 on: August 6, 2012, 11:18:52 PM »

...and I should know, I once spent £40 in a month on Clubcall and the only player we signed was Mark Kennedy.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1740 on: August 6, 2012, 11:18:56 PM »
I don't think there's a queue of clubs for those players & it'll take more than one transfer window to offload them.

Sure. I know it will take time. If it's difficult, we need to work even harder. When do we get started?

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1741 on: August 6, 2012, 11:19:00 PM »
Being a football manager entails tough decisions....


Selling a good player to bring in other payers in weaker positions is always going to be a tough decision.


It takes foresight, judgement and balls of steel to make these decisions and get them right...

Now, personally, I wouldn't sell Agger, but it seems BR thinks he will have a stronger squad by doing so.

Can't slaughter him for that until we see if he's right or not, that means we have to be patient and wait until we see the results of it...... It might turn out to be a master stroke who knows?

When Rafa came in he had to sell a really good injury prone player too, brought in alonso with the money.

Sometimes these decisions pay off.  Let's see eh?

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1742 on: August 6, 2012, 11:19:59 PM »
People forgetting that we have offered Agger a contract then? People saying it's nailed on he'll go are a tad premature. Lots of factors to come into play still.

Who's saying that mate?

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« Reply #1743 on: August 6, 2012, 11:20:15 PM »
Fuck me we've got people slitting their wrists in here on the back of one hastily deleted tweet.
IF agger goes we have carra.. Coates.... Wisdom... Kelly..  Plus anyone we sign for that position...its not the end of the world besides theres a contract on the table for him.

Life goes on. Football of yesteryear is no more. Some of us who called for Rafa's head when he was fending off H&G ... know you know. Now let's get back to talking transfers ...

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1744 on: August 6, 2012, 11:21:15 PM »
I don't trust us to spend the 20m or so we'll get from selling Agger wisely. Last season we wasted almost 80m on shit players, now, with no scouting network in place, it becomes very difficult for us to work the market & buy gems for cheap prices. Sorry, but I am very worried for next season.
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« Reply #1745 on: August 6, 2012, 11:21:25 PM »
Life goes on. Football of yesteryear is no more. Some of us who called for Rafa's head when he was fending off H&G ... know you know. Now let's get back to talking transfers ...

Yeah except i never called for rafas head.. I was still wanting him back after kenny left.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1746 on: August 6, 2012, 11:21:27 PM »
Sure. I know it will take time. If it's difficult, we need to work even harder. When do we get started?

We already have as far as I'm concerned. Might not be the ones you want to go first, but Maxi, Kuyt and Aurelio were all squad players on high wages who didn't get a game. Looks as though we've been trying to push Carroll as well. That just leaves Cole, Adam and Downing left.

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« Reply #1747 on: August 6, 2012, 11:21:37 PM »
And that Juve still want Suarez.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/robin-van-persie-transfer-saga-1227100

According to the Mirror the other week, Juve were going to buy Suarez simply because they felt RvP wanted to play in the same side as Suarez. Now they think they won't get RvP they still want Suarez anyway  ???

And that we want to sell Agger for 20m to buy Dempsey and a replacement.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/liverpool-transfers-daniel-agger-can-1228562

By all accounts Fulham want £10M for Dempsey. So LFC are going to get Agger's replacement for 1/2 the price they sold him for  :wave

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1748 on: August 6, 2012, 11:21:58 PM »
Serious question, do we believe there are any Liverpool players that currently do not have a price? Is there a Liverpool player that, if a wealthy club comes hunting, would not be considered for sale. There may be a limit on the number but it does not feel like there any hands off signs up at this moment. If Real wanted Lucas or PSG wanted Suarez, would we just say no or would it be a case of the price.
Id hope not but say a bid of £70m for Suarez couldn't be ignored
Same for any club ?
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1749 on: August 6, 2012, 11:22:06 PM »
Aggers as good as gone. Its pretty much fucking nailed on.
Aye, just like Carroll to Newcastle...oh. Or Carroll to West Ham...oh ::)
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1750 on: August 6, 2012, 11:22:11 PM »


Just keep the faith and trust they know what theyre doing.

Upto now, its pretty fucking clear, they dont know what the fuck they're doing.
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« Reply #1751 on: August 6, 2012, 11:22:17 PM »
I don't trust us to spend the 20m or so we'll get from selling Agger wisely. Last season we wasted almost 80m on shit players, now, with no scouting network in place, it becomes very difficult for us to work the market & buy gems for cheap prices. Sorry, but I am very worried for next season.

The people responsible for the signings of expensive mediocre players are no longer at the club. I'll see what Rogers has up his sleeve before panicking.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1753 on: August 6, 2012, 11:22:39 PM »
Just keep the faith and trust they know what theyre doing.

See, if I thought we knew what we were doing, I wouldn't worry.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1754 on: August 6, 2012, 11:22:41 PM »
I don't trust us to spend the 20m or so we'll get from selling Agger wisely. Last season we wasted almost 80m on shit players, now, with no scouting network in place, it becomes very difficult for us to work the market & buy gems for cheap prices. Sorry, but I am very worried for next season.

This. We shouldn't even be considering selling Agger until we've got the deal for his replacement lined up and ready to go (if we really have to sell him).

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« Reply #1755 on: August 6, 2012, 11:23:24 PM »
Fsg/brendan/luis are all agreeing that theres zero chance luis is leaving, the clubs not even acknowledging bids from anyone for him, as long as he wants tostay hes a lfc player. Dont worry about the mirrors story its bullshit.
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« Reply #1756 on: August 6, 2012, 11:23:30 PM »
The club very clearly isnt... The clubs staying silent as we expect them to do,

No they really fucking aren't. They're being incredibly snide about leaking little bits of information off the record to journalists to try and agitate moves for certain players.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1757 on: August 6, 2012, 11:23:40 PM »
Serious question, do we believe there are any Liverpool players that currently do not have a price? Is there a Liverpool player that, if a wealthy club comes hunting, would not be considered for sale. There may be a limit on the number but it does not feel like there any hands off signs up at this moment. If Real wanted Lucas or PSG wanted Suarez, would we just say no or would it be a case of the price.
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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1758 on: August 6, 2012, 11:23:46 PM »
I would hope that we stay away from Johnson, I have never seen anything in the lad that would make me want to commit to him long term.  Whatever happens I'll be looking forward to next season.  Sahin as a loan option while sending out/selling Adam would be a great bit of business, not that there is anything to say that it will happen just thinking out loud.

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Re: General LFC Transfer related bollocks talk in here
« Reply #1759 on: August 6, 2012, 11:23:46 PM »
exactly, we could definitely get around 15m for adam downing and spearing, sell them to some shitty newly promoted teams. i can't believe these crap players that kenny signed are beginning to displace the genuine class that we already had in place.
We had no genuine classy wingers
Also I'd only sell adam of those 3
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