Topic: Daniel Agger

[Suareznumber7]

It will be opened at some point tonight. I myself find the thread interesting too mate, but as you say, the few are spoiling it for the main. It gets locked to hopefully make the few 'sit up and take notice'. the closer it gets to the window shutting, the closer it gets to there not being a general thread at all with the way its going. Its down to our discretion having a general thread. We could have specific player threads, that would deteriorate into the normal bollocks, and lock them until actual news happens. Or we could have a general one where people should try and play nice.......we shall see mate.

The few who are constantly breaking the rules should get 24 hour bans.  Then the rest of us can continue to read and post in the thread. 

[Andy]

cant beat acorny joke...

Nice work.

[Swissgaz]

Trevor Cherry

David Elm

Jim jong Pagodatree

Gary Birch

[mjjason]

Selling Agger will be a poor decision but if we do we should have faith in some of our players like Coates, Wilson, Kelly, etc...  United went most of last season playing their youth and having faith in them.  It did not do them much harm.  If we don't believe they are capable of stepping up then why have them.

[LanceLink]

Trevor Cherry

David Elm

Jim jong Pagodatree

Steve Spruce

[Mr Happy Squid]

She has photos with Shelvey and Kelly too, doing a running commentary of everyone she met at Melwood today.

Again, it's nothing we don't already know.

This might have already been asked...but where are these photo's then?

[hesbighesred]

Steve Spruce

Andre A Yew

[SpartanRed]

Trevor Cherry

David Elm

Jim jong Pagodatree

That Elm looks solid.
Tall, strong & takes alot to chop him down.

[Tomo!]

Selling Agger will be a poor decision but if we do we should have faith in some of our players like Coates, Wilson, Kelly, etc...  United went most of last season playing their youth and having faith in them.  It did not do them much harm.  If we don't believe they are capable of stepping up then why have them.

It's not that big an issue when the rest of the team is firing on all cylinders to take the pressure of the defence.

As it stands our defence is really the only area that's not in need of an overhaul, unpopular but there is a case for selling Agger based on age and injuries but it's nowhere near the right time.
He's needed here for the short term at least.

[geoffstrong 1937-2013 RIP]

Aah, but can branches not also grow on shrubs?

Also, Alvaro Arboloa [sic]

Well I think Alan Oakes take the award myself

[Gnurglan]

Selling Agger will be a poor decision but if we do we should have faith in some of our players like Coates, Wilson, Kelly, etc...  United went most of last season playing their youth and having faith in them.  It did not do them much harm.  If we don't believe they are capable of stepping up then why have them.

Coates has played for Uruguay, Wilson has played for Scotland and Kelly was picked for the England squad. In most other clubs, at least one of them, but possibly all three, would be first picks. So for us to hesitate feels a little strange.

[Black Bull Nova]

Twice this summer it has looked like we are considering some asset stripping because of the value of those assets. I am realistic enough to realise that, after Torres, Alonso and Mascheranos we've not got that many left (Lucas, Reina plus those which we've exoensively purchased who have partially retained or enhanced their value, Sktrel, Carroll and Suarez). Nevertheless this depresses the hell out of me because, like Alonso, who let's face it was not as good when he was originally touted as his last year, some players have something about them. Daniel Agger is one of them, he's a player that not only has some class but you also want to support as an individual. Losing these sort of players hurts in some ways more than players like Torres (after the sulking had set in).

I understand it, I see the logic in it but hand on heart I don't like it. This is what it must feel like to be a Wolves fan.

[Andy]

Steve Spruce

he's got a big fat hedge...

[Swissgaz]

This might have already been asked...but where are these photo's then?

http://twitter.com/_Niamhuss_/status/233162964646109184/photo/1

[Swissgaz]

he's got a big fat hedge...

 

[Lofty Ambitions]

This might have already been asked...but where are these photo's then?

Her twitter account. Check the latest with #lfc, it should be there on top of retweets.

[JonnyDubb]

If Man City and Barca come sniffing around offering big wages and big titles, surely the best we can do is try and get as much money out of them as we can. I don't actually think he's going anywhere but I'll take 20+ million for him.

[Pistolero]

The few who are constantly breaking the rules should get 24 hour bans.  Then the rest of us can continue to read and post in the thread.

why not just have a maverick thread (call it the Whopper ..or the bellend) where any bullshit rumour and unsubstantiated twitter story can be posted?.....lets be honest, that's all the mainstream press does these days

[scatman]

Like, say, Spurs or Lyon for example?

Point being, we aren't competing for the top. We're trying to break into the top 4 on a limited budget. We aren't a top club anymore. We're Spurs of about 4 or 5 years ago only with a much higher wage bill.

By all means when we are once again where we were in Rafa's latter years we can afford to be more hard line, as it stands we can say what we want but what Rodgers says is the truth regardless of whether he says it or not. The important bit is to be like Lyon were - sure, everyone knew their players were up for sale, but that price? It was always A LOT. That's the part we need to do better and where we've been utterly shit in recent years. We walk away if it's too expensive, and we don't say yes until the offer is where we want it to be.

Maybe FSG will surprise us all and pump money in again like they did last summer, but I somehow doubt it.

problem is unlike Lyon, Porto or Udinese, we don't get value for money in players we sign

[Acaustiq]

but I'll take 20+ million for him.

That's not tax free you know.

[B_I_F]

problem is unlike Lyon, Porto or Udinese, we don't get value for money in players we sign

.... Which in my opinion is because Liverpool seem obsessed with "PL-proven players" who are ALWAYS SO FUCKING OVERPRICED.

And yes - Agger must stay. I'd rather cash in on several other players instead.

[Black Bull Nova]

By all means when we are once again where we were in Rafa's latter years we can afford to be more hard line, as it stands we can say what we want but what Rodgers says is the truth regardless of whether he says it or not. The important bit is to be like Lyon were - sure, everyone knew their players were up for sale, but that price? It was always A LOT. That's the part we need to do better and where we've been utterly shit in recent years. We walk away if it's too expensive, and we don't say yes until the offer is where we want it to be.

Yes, because you get a reputation with Agents and clubs. Everyone Knows that Real never give up, that Arsenal never do what they say, that Spurs will sniff around at the death and that we are a soft touch. I hate to say this but we could learn a thing or two from the new found approach of Newcastle wherever that came from because they used to be shite.

[Not funny reecehenebry]

problem is unlike Lyon, Porto or Udinese, we don't get value for money in players we sign

We did, but we have sold most of them and failed to replace them.

Alonso, Masch, Torres, Benni, Kuyt, Raul. All value for money, none replaced.

Of the few we have left that were value fro money we have

Lucas, Suarez, Agger and Reina. Possibly Coates and Johnson.

I can see the problem.

[Puskas]

why not just have a maverick thread (call it the Whopper ..or the bellend) where any bullshit rumour and unsubstantiated twitter story can be posted?.....lets be honest, that's all the mainstream press does these days

You could call it the Reality Averse Whopper Kollective

[scouse29]

One point I would like to make is that skertel only looked half the player when paired with carra last season. Agger must have that calming influence on him

[vivabobbygraham]

You could call it the Reality Averse Whopper Kollective

Twitter Twatterers

[Ste08]

Rogers has this one completely wrong. I struggle to see any positives here. Our defence is the only good part of our team and he's easily the best defender we have and coming into his prime plus it seems that he actually wants to stay. I ask exactly how far £20m stretches? what's that half on a replacement who most certainly will not be as good and what the rest on Dempsey or someone of that ilk. Is that really worth tearing apart the best centre back partnership in the league? To me the answer is a clear no.

[Barneylfc]

Rogers has this one completely wrong. I struggle to see any positives here. Our defence is the only good part of our team and he's easily the best defender we have and coming into his prime plus it seems that he actually wants to stay. I ask exactly how far £20m stretches? what's that half on a replacement who most certainly will not be as good and what the rest on Dempsey or someone of that ilk. Is that really worth tearing apart the best centre back partnership in the league? To me the answer is a clear no.

can you elaborate on this please? Has he said something in private we dont know about?

[Ste08]

can you elaborate on this please? Has he said something in private we dont know about?

“I will fight as hard as I possibly can to keep the players that I want here and he is one of them.” – Brendan Rodgers on Skrtel.

“Every player has his price. Daniel is a top player, he loves the club. But you can never say never.” – Brendan Rodgers on Agger.

Reacting to his quotes from earlier. I find his response quite surprising especially when you compare it to how forthright he was when asked about Skrtel a few weeks back.

[Pistolero]

Rogers has this one completely wrong. I struggle to see any positives here. Our defence is the only good part of our team and he's easily the best defender we have and coming into his prime plus it seems that he actually wants to stay. I ask exactly how far £20m stretches? what's that half on a replacement who most certainly will not be as good and what the rest on Dempsey or someone of that ilk. Is that really worth tearing apart the best centre back partnership in the league? To me the answer is a clear no.

some lead weights for that knee sir?...

[scott]

Rio Ferdinand went for £30m over 10 years ago, Lescott went for £24m. Think we should put a £35m price tag on Agger, Thiago Silva went for a similar price, why can't Agger? (PS: hope he stays)

[Tepid water]

Rio Ferdinand went for £30m over 10 years ago, Lescott went for £24m. Think we should put a £35m price tag on Agger, Thiago Silva went for a similar price, why can't Agger? (PS: hope he stays)

Because no ones going to pay that for him and we need ready cash.....


Do you think we could pawn him?

[adam18]

Be a massive shame to break up the Skirtel Agger partnership, they have been boss for us and are both still only 27 i think, plenty of time to get better still.

If he goes it should be for nothing less than 25 Million. He's up there with the best in the world and he's just hitting peak age. I could see it happening, i think we have enough defensive strength to cope with Rodgers hopeful new style of attacking play. Hopefully then that money would be injected into equally proven world class players further up the pitch.

 ... or blow it on chancing it with another young Brtish hopeful.

Do hope he stays though, quality player! We would defiantly be loosing a massive element to our defensive game   

[steveeastend]

The discussion is pretty strange IMO. Seriously, who should step in for him?

People stating that he obviously is worth 25m+ only confirm that there is no way to bring in a proper replacement for him so EVERY substitute would again just add up to the number of average quality player in the squad, finally we did it to our best part of the squad as well if this would really be happening.

I don´t get it, sorry. Carra and Coates rotating and Skrtel as a regular doesn´t make any sense considering two games a week for the majority of the season.

[Aido LFC]

He'll stay, don't think any club including City will pay £25 million plus for him. City were haggling over the price of Van Persie weren't they?

[Aido LFC]

Oh and we rejected £20 million bid from City according to Barrett.

[steveeastend]

...and we need ready cash.....

Who says that? There is not ONE quote of Henry himself on that. I don´t buy this, especailly as the clubs was willing to accept big losses in order to get rid of unwanted players.

Oh and we rejected £20 million bid from City according to Barrett.

Just confirms that we do NOT deperately need money. If he goes, then there are other reasons as it doesn´t make sense to sell a player from this quality.

[Barneylfc]

“I will fight as hard as I possibly can to keep the players that I want here and he is one of them.” – Brendan Rodgers on Skrtel.

“Every player has his price. Daniel is a top player, he loves the club. But you can never say never.” – Brendan Rodgers on Agger.

Reacting to his quotes from earlier. I find his response quite surprising especially when you compare it to how forthright he was when asked about Skrtel a few weeks back.

Havent seen that quote today to be honest. Have you got a link to it?

You could quote

"Daniel is a top player and any manager will tell you that they don't want to lose their best players.

"But I suppose at every club, and we've seen it throughout (football), every player has a price.

"For me he is a top-class professional. I've really enjoyed working with him and speaking with him over the last number of weeks since he's been in. You're always going to have your top players linked (with moves away).

"But certainly for me, I'm not forced to have to sell anyone, which is important. Daniel is a very, very important player for us here. We'll see what happens between now and the end of the month but for me he is getting back up to speed.

"He's a good guy, he loves the club here and he loves the supporters. He's been here seven years now and he's really focused on his work here.

"But like I say, you can never say never and I'm a realist, so we'll see where it goes between now and the end of the month."

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/rodgers-transfer-update-1


Do people really need to pick apart quotes to suit their agenda? Why can't a whole quote be read and judged instead of single sentences that weren't even said?

[Liamski-la]

Not when you consider that we have a new manager who will have wanted to evaluate the squad and decide who he wants to sell before he buys replacements. We are back at year zero of a rebuilding plan. In many ways it is very exciting but it demands patience.

Thats the problem I think.

As Liverpool supporters, generally speaking, patience is something that we are in short supply of

[steveeastend]

“I will fight as hard as I possibly can to keep the players that I want here and he is one of them.” – Brendan Rodgers on Skrtel.

“Every player has his price. Daniel is a top player, he loves the club. But you can never say never.” – Brendan Rodgers on Agger.

The leader doesn´t want me.