Topic: Daniel Agger

[Veinticinco de Mayo]

everyone has their price 

You arguing that is not the case?

[oddball]

Not when you consider that we have a new manager who will have wanted to evaluate the squad and decide who he wants to sell before he buys replacements. We are back at year zero of a rebuilding plan. In many ways it is very exciting but it demands patience.

Patience, on RAWK 

[Paul-LFC]

everyone has their price 

Read the full quote or watch the video. Sounds to me like Rodgers would prefer to keep Agger.

[benn25]

And I would wager a guess that this was one of the quotes that got you pissed off with Roy.  And to my mind this is similar.  Agger is a unique center back.  A rolls royce of a center back.  Sure there are other players that can perhaps be as good as Danny but I have real doubts about our ability to find them given we don't seem to have been looking at them at all so far this summer.

Not disputing the qualities of our Dane, but there's no hard evidence of him leaving for everyone to get wet over. Rodgers has made it clear what he thinks. For all we know maybe theres disagreement with contract talks. Its funny how the Skrtel talks of him moving has died down. Maybe its the same thing. Who knows. Maybe Rodgers has confidence in our other players to step up to the plate if Agger does leave.

I dont want him to go anywhere and until we hear he's been given permission to speak to another club im not gonna get carried away.

 

[Barneylfc]

From the press conference video:

"Do you see the possibility of others leaving, for example Daniel Agger is an interest for Manchester City"

"Not really. Daniel's a top player and no club wants to lose their top players. I suppose at every club we've seen it throughout, every player has a price but for me Daniel is a top class professional. I've really enjoyed working with him and speaking with him a lot in the last few weeks since he's been back, your top players will always be linked. I'm not forced to sell anyone, which is important. Daniel is a very very important player for here. Like I say we'll see what happens between now and the end of the month, but certainly for me he's getting back up to speed, he's a good guy, he loves the club here, loves the supporters, he's really focussed on his work here. But like I say you can never say never and I'm a realist as well, so we'll see where it goes between now and the end of the month."

That quote is a million miles away from this quote which I have seen today

"Daniel's a top player and no club wants to lose their top players. But like I say you can never say never and I'm a realist as well, so we'll see where it goes between now and the end of the month."

[Carlito Roberto]

You arguing that is not the case?

Unfortunately it is, but do you think the manager should be publicly admitting as much when speaking about one of our best players?

[Groundskeeper Willie]

There are suggestions that Ayre is pushing this move despite Agger wanting to stay and Rodgers saying he wants him here.

Bullshit? Can´t imagine Rodgers letting that happen solely based on the club ditching its proposed structure to get Rodgers. If anyone at the club sold a player against the manager´s wishes I think he´d resign.

[.Mike]

That quote is a million miles away from this quote which I have seen today

Did you watch the conference? That's exactly what he said. I don't think he's going anywhere unless a 25m+ offer comes in.

[nocturnalvin]

Unfortunately it is, but do you think the manager should be publicly admitting as much when speaking about one of our best players?

Hence, some are suggesting that its a message to probably his agent. This is the offer on table, if you don't accept it, we are open to selling you. But then again, the price must be right.

[Raul!]

If we're pursuing targets... why are we pursuing them so slowly?

What speed would sir like us to pursue targets at?  Would sir like Facebook status updates to let sir know what is going on?

Sorry for the facetiousness but we probably pursuing them at whatever rate we can pursue them - sometimes deals can be done fast, other times they take time.  Perhaps we are negotiating more favourable terms for ourselves.  Perhaps a player is considering other offers.  How the hell can we have any clue about what is going on, much less why?  And why should we expect any updates?

[astowell1]

He didn't say anything different than what he's said before about players if you ask me.

As far as I'm concerned Agger is staying.

[Veinticinco de Mayo]

Unfortunately it is, but do you think the manager should be publicly admitting as much when speaking about one of our best players?

Read the full context of the quote. Then factor in that the club are negotiating a new contract with Agger. He is playing a straight bat, making it clear that he wants to keep Agger while not leaving himself a hostage to fortune should Agger turn down a new contract and effectively orce Liverpool to sell while they can still get a good price.

[Digger2God]

One thing that worries me is the fact that BR again said today that he would rather have the new players in sooner rather than later.  Maybe as suggested on TAW that he is trying to get Ayre to move a bit faster on the negotiations.  I am a bit uneasy that Ian Ayre might be playing the waiting game to avoid the risk of over-paying for players. It might seem like a good approach if the clubs/players dont call our bluff and we end up getting fleeced at the end of the window. 

[Carlito Roberto]

Hence, some are suggesting that its a message to probably his agent. This is the offer on table, if you don't accept it, we are open to selling you. But then again, the price must be right.

If that's the case then fair enough, have we definitely offered him a new contract?

[adamski29]

How is 12-15m not enough? If we sell Agger for 25m and spend 10m on a lesser replacement doesnt it leave us with the exact amount of money?

And probably a weaker defence, at least untill the new player settles in, IF he settles in.

But the big thing for me is that we need attacking player s and we have an attacking player that doesn't look like fitting in, yet we decide to sell a centre half and keep the forward who needs replacing, wtf is that all about.

If we have to except less for carol to get some money in then fucking do it. The chances are he will spend most of his time on the bench next season, so we have a striker the manager doesn't want in a position that need strengthening even if you leave Carroll out of the equation and minus a world class centre half.
It defies belief.

[Paul-LFC]

That quote is a million miles away from this quote which I have seen today

The quote contains the text that you quoted, but it is part of a longer response from Rodgers. Watch the press conference video which is free on the official site, it's all there.

[MushyP15]

Media in tweeting small part of quote to suit their own agenda non shocker.

That article on TAW cracked me up, as good as it was. It basically said the media have the power to change the way football is perceived, yet they don't (and won't) because it suits them much more to cause a shitstorm with any minor soundbite.

Rodgers may not be 100% honest about everything, but it seemed to me he'd want Agger to stay. How the owners view that situation may be another thing entirely. I'll certainly be gutted if he goes. For me, he's the first name on the team sheet when fit.

[LiverpoolKopKings]

For me Rogers is right in what he said about the price on everyone. After goldilocks I stopped attaching myself to anyone. WTF at the end of the day noone is bigger then LFC. If somebody's head has been turned, fuck it give us the right money and move forward.

These prima donnas get paid ridiculous amounts of money to kick a ball in service to our great club. Am not saying Daniel wants to go or being disrespectful towards him in anyway. But at the end of the day he's an employee of the club. If his sale for the right price is better for the club, so be it.

[Carlito Roberto]

Read the full context of the quote. Then factor in that the club are negotiating a new contract with Agger. He is playing a straight bat, making it clear that he wants to keep Agger while not leaving himself a hostage to fortune should Agger turn down a new contract and effectively orce Liverpool to sell while they can still get a good price.

I can see the logic behind that comment if that's the angle we're coming from. I wasn't aware the club were in the process of negotiating a new contract.

[Captain Marko Ramius]

Starting to look a bit more like contract wrangling again.

[L666KOP]

The quote contains the text that you quoted, but it is part of a longer response from Rodgers. Watch the press conference video which is free on the official site, it's all there.

Correct, it's like having 'wendy' tattoed on your dick, and when you get a hard on it says 'welcome to liverpool have a nice day'.

[Jojo The Hobo]

Every player has a price, that is a fact. The only reason some people on here don't realize it is because armchair managers don't have financial expectations on them.

Daniel Agger is one of the best defenders in the world, but he is not irreplaceable. Coates, Kelly and even Carra can plug his spot this season if a direct replacement isn't found. The main reason we are attached to Agger is because the offence isn't creative enough to win games consistently.

If the money from the transfer can relieve the defenders from extra offensive work, then Agger isn't that important.

What's funny is that people are attacking the new manager because he talked about transfers in the media, yet if he said who he wanted they would be youtubing the players and making fantasy line ups like the armchair managers they are.

[kalledaa]

Okey Im gonna try to bring some sense in to this debate. First of all I have to say I freakin love Agger. I think he’s one of the best central defenders in PL, if not the best and I also appreciate the fact that he seems to love the club and the city itself. I really hope Agger doesn’t get sold and I think it will be very hard (and expensive) to try and replace him.

However, I’m getting kinda tired reading all the comments about Brendan Rodgers and FSGs intentions. I will start by stating that I really do think that FSGs intentions are legit and I don’t think they’re going to try another ”swindle”. The fact that Suarez signed a new contract (and he knows we’re not ”there yet” but from what I’ve read he signed because he wants to go we are aiming to be) suggests that they have a clear vision of the future. If so weren’t the case I doubt he would sign a new contract.  Also, from what I understand the Red Sox fans are overall happy with what FSG are doing over there so in my opinion there is no point for concern regarding the owners. Not at this point anyway.

Regarding Brendan and his ”decision” to ”sell” Agger despite the fact that the player seems to prefer staying at Anfield I have some further thoughts. First of all, Agger has not been sold yet and there is nothing that suggest it’s a fact he will be leaving. I can barely believe how quick people jump the gun and make up ridiculus conclucions just because of rumours.

However, there have been some vague comments from Brendan about Aggers future and this seems to be another point upsetting a lot of fans. I believe that BR will do what he thinks is best for the team in a longer perspective. He might see this as a possible opportunity to cash in on a player who can bring in some serious money for other transfers which he thinks will strengthen the team overall. Brendan has clearly stated that he does not wish to sell agger, that he must not sell the player or that the player wants to leave. All he has said is that if a bid that is ”good enough” comes in they will decide what to do when it happens. This suggest nothing but the fact that the club might sell Agger if they feel that the money they recieve from that transfer can be used to strengthen the team elsewhere which would result in an overall better team.

A lot of fans, including me, is not sure about this. As I stated above, I think Agger will be very hard to replace, but then again, I’m not the current manager of Liverpool FC hence it’s not my decision. And I do think there is a reason behind the fact that I’m not the manager of Liverpool FC but Brendan Rodgers is. Who knows, perhaps BR feels that Coates or possibly Kelly is up for the test and feels that the money an eventual sale of a 27 year old and rather injury prone Daniel Agger bring can be used better elsewhere to benefit the whole.

If so aren’t the case, that we would sell Agger and not re-invest in other players, we have a situation to worry about. But nothing, absolutely nothing, supports this ”worst case scenario”. Rodgers has clearly stated that he is looking to bring in some more new players and concidering the fact that he has expressed himself rather carefully regarding possible outbound transfers I think we can trust the fact that more players will arrive before aug 31st.

My point with this rather long post is that it’s not black and white and we have to respect the decisions our manager make. I mean, for christ sake, Mr Rogers has been here for two month and played one competative game and already fans are doubting his intentions. Some ballsacks are even calling for his head. Give Brendan Rodgers time. He has stated from the moment he was appointed that he will do what he thinks is best for the team in a longer perspective. We need to support our manager and respect his decisions. We can, and shoud, judge him on the results he shows on the pitch but remember, be patient.

[MushyP15]

Correct, it's like having 'wendy' tattoed on your dick, and when you get a hard on it says 'welcome to liverpool have a nice day'.

If only mine had the space.

[L666KOP]

Media in tweeting small part of quote to suit their own agenda non shocker.

That article on TAW cracked me up, as good as it was. It basically said the media have the power to change the way football is perceived, yet they don't (and won't) because it suits them much more to cause a shitstorm with any minor soundbite.

Rodgers may not be 100% honest about everything, but it seemed to me he'd want Agger to stay. How the owners view that situation may be another thing entirely. I'll certainly be gutted if he goes. For me, he's the first name on the team sheet when fit.

Just like the Ben Smith tweet earlier, it sells papers/gets hits, the full story is actually a bit of a non story in it's real context.

[.Mike]

Read the full context of the quote. Then factor in that the club are negotiating a new contract with Agger. He is playing a straight bat, making it clear that he wants to keep Agger while not leaving himself a hostage to fortune should Agger turn down a new contract and effectively orce Liverpool to sell while they can still get a good price.

Thank god, someone with sense.

[Paul-LFC]

Brendan Rodgers today reaffirmed his determination to bring new players to Liverpool by the time the 2012-13 Barclays Premier League season gets underway.

The boss also admitted he has held talks with Andy Carroll regarding his Anfield future and stressed the importance of Daniel Agger to his squad, declaring he was thrilled with the defender's focus in pre-season.

Rodgers was speaking at a press conference at Melwood, in which he confirmed his aim is to introduce new faces to bolster his ranks by the end of August but added that he was under no pressure to sell players.

The manager admitted: "We've been linked with an incredible amount of players, but I'm very reluctant to speak about other players at other clubs.

"I know I've got a bit of work to do here. We've got to improve the squad - there's no question about that but unfortunately it takes a wee bit of time. It's not as easy as some people think, especially when you are a club of this status.

"It's a little bit more complex but my intention is to bring in another few players. As I've always said, I'd love them to be here sooner rather than later but the most important thing is that they are here by the end of August. Then we will know the group of players we will be working with until January at least.

"We've got some good players and I want to give a lot of the players here a chance, but I know I need to bring in a number of players, even to replace the ones who have left. This is a club that people want to be at and hopefully they will come in over the next few weeks."


Brendan's pre-Gomel chat
Meanwhile, the manager revealed he has held conversations with Carroll and admits to having been impressed by what he has seen from the young England forward so far.

"When I first came in I had a conversation with him about where I thought he was at," said Rodgers. "I've got to say Andy has been terrific. He knows exactly where he stands. He's like every player - he'll have to fight for his position.

"There are not many clubs you can go to and be a guaranteed starter. I understand Andy wants to play games but he also really enjoys it here and I have had a number of conversations with him.

"So we're just seeing how that develops but by the time the window shuts, whatever players are being speculated about, everyone has to be focused purely on being here. And certainly with the likes of Andy, from what I have seen, that has been the case."

Asked by reporters about the possibility of Agger moving away from the club, Rodgers replied: "Daniel is a top player and any manager will tell you that they don't want to lose their best players.

"But I suppose at every club, and we've seen it throughout (football), every player has a price.

"For me he is a top-class professional. I've really enjoyed working with him and speaking with him over the last number of weeks since he's been in. You're always going to have your top players linked (with moves away).

"But certainly for me, I'm not forced to have to sell anyone, which is important. Daniel is a very, very important player for us here. We'll see what happens between now and the end of the month but for me he is getting back up to speed.

"He's a good guy, he loves the club here and he loves the supporters. He's been here seven years now and he's really focused on his work here.

"But like I say, you can never say never and I'm a realist, so we'll see where it goes between now and the end of the month."

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/rodgers-transfer-update-1

[HELLRAZOR]

everyone has their price 

[krispy.red]

Just watched the video. Put my mind at ease a bit. Rodgers seems like a brutally honest kind of guy and doesn't sound like Agger is leaving unless a crazy offer comes in. I suggest everyone giving it a look before you jump.

[soxfan]

Okey Im gonna try to bring some sense in to this debate. First of all I have to say I freakin love Agger. I think he’s one of the best central defenders in PL, if not the best and I also appreciate the fact that he seems to love the club and the city itself. I really hope Agger doesn’t get sold and I think it will be very hard (and expensive) to try and replace him.

However, I’m getting kinda tired reading all the comments about Brendan Rodgers and FSGs intentions. I will start by stating that I really do think that FSGs intentions are legit and I don’t think they’re going to try another ”swindle”. The fact that Suarez signed a new contract (and he knows we’re not ”there yet” but from what I’ve read he signed because he wants to go we are aiming to be) suggests that they have a clear vision of the future. If so weren’t the case I doubt he would sign a new contract.  Also, from what I understand the Red Sox fans are overall happy with what FSG are doing over there so in my opinion there is no point for concern regarding the owners. Not at this point anyway.

Regarding Brendan and his ”decision” to ”sell” Agger despite the fact that the player seems to prefer staying at Anfield I have some further thoughts. First of all, Agger has not been sold yet and there is nothing that suggest it’s a fact he will be leaving. I can barely believe how quick people jump the gun and make up ridiculus conclucions just because of rumours.

However, there have been some vague comments from Brendan about Aggers future and this seems to be another point upsetting a lot of fans. I believe that BR will do what he thinks is best for the team in a longer perspective. He might see this as a possible opportunity to cash in on a player who can bring in some serious money for other transfers which he thinks will strengthen the team overall. Brendan has clearly stated that he does not wish to sell agger, that he must not sell the player or that the player wants to leave. All he has said is that if a bid that is ”good enough” comes in they will decide what to do when it happens. This suggest nothing but the fact that the club might sell Agger if they feel that the money they recieve from that transfer can be used to strengthen the team elsewhere which would result in an overall better team.

A lot of fans, including me, is not sure about this. As I stated above, I think Agger will be very hard to replace, but then again, I’m not the current manager of Liverpool FC hence it’s not my decision. And I do think there is a reason behind the fact that I’m not the manager of Liverpool FC but Brendan Rodgers is. Who knows, perhaps BR feels that Coates or possibly Kelly is up for the test and feels that the money an eventual sale of a 27 year old and rather injury prone Daniel Agger bring can be used better elsewhere to benefit the whole.

If so aren’t the case, that we would sell Agger and not re-invest in other players, we have a situation to worry about. But nothing, absolutely nothing, supports this ”worst case scenario”. Rodgers has clearly stated that he is looking to bring in some more new players and concidering the fact that he has expressed himself rather carefully regarding possible outbound transfers I think we can trust the fact that more players will arrive before aug 31st.

My point with this rather long post is that it’s not black and white and we have to respect the decisions our manager make. I mean, for christ sake, Mr Rogers has been here for two month and played one competative game and already fans are doubting his intentions. Some ballsacks are even calling for his head. Give Brendan Rodgers time. He has stated from the moment he was appointed that he will do what he thinks is best for the team in a longer perspective. We need to support our manager and respect his decisions. We can, and shoud, judge him on the results he shows on the pitch but remember, be patient.

That is an intelligent, rational and fair post. Agree with virtually everything you said. Please keep posting and talking more sense in the future. We need more of it here.   

[Regi]

First visit here today.
Assume knee-jerk reactions and gnashing of teeth reached biblical proportions.
RAWK is going to have to set up an A&E room for the maniacs.

[Moe Szyslak]

I agree that every player has a price and if someone came in for Agger at £25m+ it would represent a good deal for us normally. But say nobody comes in for Agger at the agreed price. I can't see Agger extending his contract after what Rodgers has said. If he doesn't go this window for £25m I can guarantee you he'll be going next summer and it won't be anywhere near £25m. I know I could be proved wrong but I have a feeling there's going to be a lot of disappointed and underwhelmed fans come September 1st.

[RyanBabel19]

Reading the quotes in full i just don't see the need for the every player has his price part. Plenty of times we seem reports of contract talks stalling which seems to bring on bids from other clubs. When they see a failing in the progress of a new deal they tend to get in with a bid while they can, i don't personally think the comment was necessary just like the comments on a loan deal being a possibility for carroll weren't necessary. He talked both players ability up which was imo all that needed to be said. Clubs will see a small unsettling or disagreement and ramp up their interest without comments from the manager being needed

[Harinder]

Patience, on RAWK 

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[mysterio_86]

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[hitman89762000]

If bredan says nothing hes avoiding the issue
If he says something positive its notreally psitive
If hes honest and admits that players do have a price but he doesn twant nor need to sell hes a complete bastard unsettling everyone.

I wish people would tell him what to say so everyones happy.

Its almost as though people WANT danny to go so they can blame it on the evil owners and their lapdog manager

Standards corrupted indeed!

[L666KOP]

Reading the quotes in full i just don't see the need for the every player has his price part. Plenty of times we seem reports of contract talks stalling which seems to bring on bids from other clubs. When they see a failing in the progress of a new deal they tend to get in with a bid while they can, i don't personally think the comment was necessary just like the comments on a loan deal being a possibility for carroll weren't necessary. He talked both players ability up which was imo all that needed to be said. Clubs will see a small unsettling or disagreement and ramp up their interest without comments from the manager being needed

He talks too much mate, and I'm not saying that in a disrespectful way, I just think he gets a bit carried away, it always seems to me like there's a sentence too many every time he does an interview. Unfortunately being at such a big club everything gets scrutinised to the nth degree.
In tim I'm sure he'll learn to be a touch more cagey, once he realises fully how the media is such a completely different animal when dealing with a club the size of ours.

[QC]

"The manager admitted: 'We've been linked with an incredible amount of players, but I'm very reluctant to speak about other players at other clubs.' "

??

[Matt8Pie]

If bredan says nothing hes avoiding the issue
If he says something positive its notreally psitive
If hes honest and admits that players do have a price but he doesn twant nor need to sell hes a complete bastard unsettling everyone.

I wish people would tell him what to say so everyones happy.

Its almost as though people WANT danny to go so they can blame it on the evil owners and their lapdog manager

Standards corrupted indeed!

No one want's Agger to go. No one. Except the Twitter and RAWK accountants and statitions who will talk about wage bills and appearance percentages. The ones who actually watch the football for what it is and see how important Agger is to the club and how he won't be replaced very easily, most likely not at all, don't want him to go.

[L666KOP]

"The manager admitted: 'We've been linked with an incredible amount of players, but I'm very reluctant to speak about other players at other clubs.' "

??

I noticed that as well, followed by "And some I've never heard of", fuck me, you'd think he'd have the decency to get himself on RAWK, this place is full of scouts, I'm sure someone could give him the heads up on who we should be buying.