Topic: Daniel Agger

[Azi]

Agger is better than Martinez and I don't say that flippantly.

may be true but one has two years left the other has 4 in this instance agger seems the cheaper option

[ziggyy]

Given his injury record, I can honestly say that I would be happy with 20 million.  If he didn't have that injury record, he'd be worth 35-45 million but he does so we might as well face up to that fact.  We could replace him, maybe with not as good a player but who knows - we might have the next Agger/Hyppia line up.

And what are we going to do with 20mil? Another defender or two, sure.  Hey, maybe even Terry...

But what are you saying to the other quality players on the team, like Lucas, Suarez, Pepe?  That they can be sold too for the right price???  That we are satisfied being a mid-table club?? Or that we are in another rebuilding process with a relatively unproven manager and players???

How much is morale worth these days?

Agger and the few quality players we have left should be the bedrock that this new team will be build upon.  You cannot put a price to that.... unless... FSG plans to sell the club in the near future and have no plans to really invest in the club...

[Matt8Pie]

I'm not saying he is going but a lot of these posts remind me of the weeks before Torres left. The complete denial that one of our top players would leave us. Of course Agger is a different character to Torres, I think he's more loyal but people really should stop getting too attached to these players.

I'm not attached to him as a person like a lot of people (including myself) were with Torres, but there were times last season where Skrtel and Agger with Lucas in front looked like one of the best centre back partnerships in Europe and this was backed up with stats too. So tell me, if some of you are happy to get £20m for him, who are we going to bring in to make sure we're at the same level of quality he and Skrtel produced last season, or who can we get as an upgrade?

Answer - no one. For that reason, we do not fucking sell him. It really, really is that simple. I can't honestly believe people saying they'd be happy to sell him as if to expect we'd actually do something decent with the money or we could bring in someone as good as him. Based on what we've seen of his personality, and earlier on in the thread when he met with Rodgers and had a positive talk with him about being here, I honestly can't see it happening. Then again, I don't trust the owners in a situation where a lot money is flashed at the club for them to say no.

[Y2J]

Sell one of our best players for a large sum of money and then try to bring someone of his quality, because that worked so well with us before  Some people never learn really, HE ISN'T FOR SALE.

BTW, last season with Agger in the side, we conceded a goal every 107 minutes, without Agger in the side, we conceded a goal every 71 minutes.

[cezred]

may be true but one has two years left the other has 4 in this instance agger seems the cheaper option

Depends on the people at the club I guess. Carroll, Aquilani and the rest I'm confident we could replace in terms of quality but Agger is on a different level. We need to be firm and demand what he's worth.

[eirwen]

Because I think they're very good players who have the ability to start for us now and be at the same level Agger is now in 6 or 7 years when they're the same age.  Take a big fee for Agger while he's hit a injury free spell and re invest in many other areas.  That's my thinking anyway.

So they will be good as Agger in 6 years? And what will happen to our defense until that time?

[cezred]

Depends on the people at the club I guess. Carroll, Aquilani and the rest I'm confident we could replace in terms of quality but Agger is on a different level. We need to be firm and demand what he's worth.

Forgot to add that if they don't want to pay what he's worth they can fuck off. We're not looking to sell.

[Mr_Miyagi]

I'm not attached to him as a person like a lot of people (including myself) were with Torres, but there were times last season where Skrtel and Agger with Lucas in front looked like one of the best centre back partnerships in Europe and this was backed up with stats too. So tell me, if some of you are happy to get £20m for him, who are we going to bring in to make sure we're at the same level of quality he and Skrtel produced last season, or who can we get as an upgrade?

Answer - no one. For that reason, we do not fucking sell him. It really, really is that simple. I can't honestly believe people saying they'd be happy to sell him as if to expect we'd actually do something decent with the money or we could bring in someone as good as him. Based on what we've seen of his personality, and earlier on in the thread when he met with Rodgers and had a positive talk with him about being here, I honestly can't see it happening. Then again, I don't trust the owners in a situation where a lot money is flashed at the club for them to say no.

I agree with you. We should be building on the Agger-Skrtel partnership. Not sure how many would be happy with £20m for him but I'm not one of them. I would be happy if I thought we could get better than Agger for that money but I honestly don't think we could.

Sell one of our best players for a large sum of money and then try to bring someone of his quality, because that worked so well with us before  Some people never learn really, HE ISN'T FOR SALE.

BTW, last season with Agger in the side, we conceded a goal every 107 minutes, without Agger in the side, we conceded a goal every 71 minutes.

You're right, some people never learn. Especially if they think he wouldn't be for sale if a big enough offer came in.

We shouldn't be selling Agger but I'm not so sure that our owners would reject an offer of £20m or anything close to that for him.

[Bob Loblaw]

Could someone please post the article that has everyones panties in a bunch, I'd appreciate it.

[Mr_Miyagi]

I know this is probably fruitless, but I'm just quoting it in the hopes that someone will actually read this before declaring another sign of the apocalypse.

Funny how people believe Sky when they want to.

[Azi]

am i the only one that finds it crazy that its suggested we  would sell for 20 mil ? considering he was immense at the euros and was a key player for us adding in that lescott went for 24mil rio went for 30 mil

[reds7]

I'll be fucken livid if this goes through.

Agger is key, part of our 'spine' we need to build on. Selling him would be a poor move, especially for 20m.

[Vork+The Knights of Good]

Funny how people believe Sky when they want to.

I find it funny how people will believe a non-story despite the fact that even the original article from the Times states we're not interested in selling. But I suppose it's our fault for letting City be interested in a world-class player. I mean FFS don't we have caller ID? We shouldn't even be answering that call!

[Gene]

Selling Agger would be a huge massive mistake in my opinion. The money we get would just have to be spent on bringing in a replacement (unless Rodgers sees something in Wilson that KK didn't.)

[edmundljs]

Don't want him to go but we're good at selling our best players so it's a possibility.

We could maybe bid for a Swansea defender once he's gone.

I have lost all hope. Glad I have my 2 boys to keep me occupied

You struck me hard with that. But deep inside I know you are still hopeful.

Agger is priceless. End of.

[El Denzel Pepito]

PLEASE let this not happen. Not Agger, please.

[Mr_Miyagi]

I find it funny how people will believe a non-story despite the fact that even the original article from the Times states we're not interested in selling. But I suppose it's our fault for letting City be interested in a world-class player. I mean FFS don't we have caller ID? We shouldn't even be answering that call!

You find it funny that people believe a story that City are interested in Agger?

[El_Pistolero]

Barrett's Times article says City value Agger at "up to 12 million".

They can fuck right off then.

City are fucking strange.

He ain't going anywhere, anyway. Not worried in the slightest.

You find it funny that people believe a story that City are interested in Agger?

I don't think he meant, or said really, that. It's funny that people are thinking that we're going to sell the lad - for twelve million - instead of laughing heartily down the phone and shouting 'FROSTIES' at Mancini on the other side before hanging up.

[Mr_Miyagi]

City are fucking strange.

He ain't going anywhere, anyway. Not worried in the slightest.

I don't think he meant, or said really, that. It's funny that people are thinking that we're going to sell the lad - for twelve million - instead of laughing heartily down the phone and shouting 'FROSTIES' at Mancini on the other side before hanging up.

I haven't seen anyone saying we were going to sell him for £12m? I've seen people suggest we should sell at £20m.

I don't think it's funny that people think we'll sell him though. I don't think we will, mainly because Agger seems to want to stay. I don't know how we can be so certain about these things though - some people seem to have learnt nothing from their Torres worshipping days and still expect our top players to finish their careers with us.

[gaijin_lfc]

Why are people posting as if there have been any actual suggestions that he's leaving?

[Mr Rossi]

Fucking 12 million?!!! Piss off. If that Klingon is worth 22 million, then Daniel is worth atleast 30 million. Dont want us to sell him anyway and I dont think we will.

[NatD]

This just can't happen!

At first I thought yeah if we get 20 Million for him we'll be OK - but I'm wrong!  He is Captain material, full of heart on his sleeve, braveheart passion and drive.  It would be a huge mistake to let him go.  Skrtel on the other hand then maybe, but not Agger.

I am worried that this story has been kicking around now for a few days, just hope it really is just bored Journo's.  We shouldn't be too worried (I hope) about City based on what he's said previously, but like a couple of people have already mentioned, the problem may be when it comes to Barca!

[vinothmct]

If we sell agger . Forget CL for another three season atleast . In that time we might lose suarez,pepe ,lucas too . It will send out a bad message . Other clubs can cherry pick out players . No top clubs sell their best player to strengthen areas . Utd,chelsea,city,barca,madrid,bayern dont do that . If we do accept we are midtable . We should only sell player if he is surplus to requirements or not good enough. We should never sell players to generate funds .

We are settled at the back why disturb it? Just strengthen the midfield and forward line with the limited funds we have . But we dont do that . We constantly sell good players at x position and replace average player in that position and buy a few one season wonders *smh*

If we sell agger i can see us buying a average defender for 8-10 m and paying a top dollar for  a average MF/fwd player .

[Mr Rossi]

Perhaps some of our better players are getting itchy feet at the perceived lack of ambition from our owners? I hope not like.

[BRdispatch05]

I have no idea whether to take this article seriously or not, but all I have to say is Agger should be worth at least 25mil, if not more

[Mr Rossi]

I have no idea whether to take this article seriously or not, but all I have to say is Agger should be worth at least 25mil, if not more

I'd say more then that. 12 million is an insult if that article has any truth in it.

[The Las]

Why is it that when we buy players we pay way over market value, and when we sell we do it way under market valuie.

There is obviously a sign outside melwood stating ~ "we like to be fucked up the ass on a regular basis" right Hon Ian Ayre.

With all due respect a former head of marketing for an asian company now has too much power at our club. He might be the dogs at getting a 4 yr sponsership deal with standard Chartered, - but is he really running football maters, for me he is the puppet for the PR spin machine that is FSG.

Im seriously worried about this latest Agger and Carroll nonesense. Yes ok, nothing concrete yet, but i want to see some ambition on the player recruitment front.

If we are pinning all of our hopes on a 21 yr old who scored a few in the championship and Serie A we are fuckedd.

[BRdispatch05]

I'd say more then that. 12 million is an insult if that article has any truth in it.

I hate to say it, but what does that say about LFC then? I'm a fan of Andy Carroll, and I know 35mil is extravagant, but the downside is other clubs will now expect us to splurge crazy money on any potentially promising talent.

  I'm not a businessman, but I would suspect we will have a hard time getting a good deal anytime soon, all I know is we can't keep selling for cheap while gambling.

Sorry I'm not trying to go off topic if that is how it is interpreted, but this thread is about Daniel and this is what is relating to him at the moment

[Kovai Red]

He wont go if we offer him (and Skrtel) a good package. The player loves it here and we do love to keep him here. It is in our hands to keep him here.

[Discipline]

Agger won't move to another PL side. He'll only leave for Spain imo.

[Milly]

£13 million for Dagger.... That is just not going to happen, £33 million maybe. We'll av ozil and higuan in a straight swap please, otherwise - fuck off!

[Packalacky]

I think he is sellable, everyone has his price. I think a swap deal would work, they get Agger, we get Messi, Iniesta, Xavi and Villa would be nice. I think they might be good at the tiki taka stuff BR likes to play.

[Trada]

Shocking if we sell him the quicker that August 31st comes the better.

The transfer window used to be about us going forward now it seems to be about us going backwards.

[jimmyjr86]

Know its only a story but this one doesn't sit right with me, bit like the Torres saga.

I just don't think we will sign anyone better than him with the money we would get. If we are willing to pay more for Allen than we would let Agger go for it would be horrendous. Would BR and the owners really be prepared for the backlash from the fans if we did sell?

At the moment he is usually fit for about half the season (being realistic) Last yr we should have utilised Coates when he was missing to gain more experience. This season we should be looking to do the same.

For possibly the first time I can remember as a Liverpool fan i can't fucking wait for September.

[xavidub]

Its about time we learned to hold players to their contracts, as MU always do

[walshys_mullet]

How much wages is he on? Won't you think of the SAVINGS??!

[LFCncRED]

Agger's appearance record in the premiership over 7 years reads 4, 27, 5, 18, 23,16 and 27 games - an average of 17 games over 7 seasons, approx 50% of games. That said, 13m is a fucking insult.

[Kage]

Perhaps some of our better players are getting itchy feet at the perceived lack of ambition from our owners? I hope not like.

Who could blame them?

[Dentron]

These terrible owners have brought in something like 100m worth of players. Hardly think they've shown an aversion to making transfers. Where the money came from shouldn't matter. The 100m (or whatever) was poorly spent, but that's hardly their fault. If the 20m pound players played like 20m pound players, we wouldn't be talking about the owners' lack of ambition, we'd be exalting their genius in getting us back into the top 4. Unfortunately, almost all of our signings last year produced very little.

[Outer Mongolian Red]

So he wants a payrise,if he doesn't get it and leaves then the lack of ambition from the club will be clear to see.