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Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« on: July 24, 2012, 12:47:43 PM »
Hi,

Before I'm jumped on, I know this should probably go in another forum however I just wanted to get it seen by most and quickly. I'm currently studying English at Liverpool and football writing is most definitely an area I would love to get into, although I appreciate I need all the experience I can get. I recently wrote an article about Liverpool which I've pasted in below (I hope you enjoy and find it interesting). This piece has been published on a few websites, however I was hoping some of you would be able to point me in the direction of any more 'credible' people who I could contact for feedback and advice. For example, Paul Tomkins, whose email I couldn't find on TTT.

Thanks for any help in advance,

Luke


Scars of Past Years Leave Liverpool Fans Ponderous Over New Season


Within the last four years Liverpool have had four different managers; a fact you would never have before associated with a club which has prided itself on being patient and allowing managers time. A mantra synonymous with ‘The Liverpool Way’.

However it would be naive to not look past the surface of this fact and the events that have surrounded this famous club over recent years. Up until October 2010, the football club’s foundations were being crumbled by its owners. The abject failure of their pledge for a new stadium, endless loans which threatened the club with bankruptcy and not to mention the poor handling of on-field matters through financial backing and undermining of manager Rafael Benitez left Liverpool fans angered, but helpless, and for once their attention was off the pitch as much as it was on it. The club descended into a revolving door with Benitez exiting, Hodgson coming in, and only a few months later George Gillett and Tom Hicks’ - memorable for the wrong reasons - reign ended, and with that so did Hodgson’s. Liverpool were now being controlled by John Henry’s Fenway sports venture; cue the return of the King!

Kenny Dalglish’s main remit was to return stability to a club divided at its heart and it was a job he essentially completed as soon as he stepped through Melwood doors. But now focus was back on the field and although performances in his first six months in charge were enough to earn him a three-year contract, a poor last season ending in a 8th place finish meant even the King was not immune.

Liverpool fans have always been regarded as knowledgable and realistic but even they are posed with the nigh on impossible task of predicting how their team will perform this coming year under yet another new manager in ex-Swansea boss Brendan Rodgers. They have seen their team fluctuate between title winning and relegation form almost every six months leaving them in limbo on how the new season will shape up for them. But is this fluctuation the fault of the players, the manager, or both?

In Benitez’ last successful year as manager the club finished 2nd behind Manchester United, with a spine consisting of Reina, Carragher, Agger, Alonso, Mascherano, Gerrard and Torres. Presently: Reina, Skrtel, Agger, Lucas, Adam, Gerrard and Suarez. It is hazardous to jump to the conclusion that the first list completely outdoes the second. For one, three players remain from the first list and albeit Gerrard is not near the class he was in 2005 through to 2008, he is still one of the best midfielders around justified by his performances at this summer’s Euros. Furthermore Skrtel and Lucas have become central figures in this Liverpool side and and are finally getting recognition from those outside the club. The partnership between Skrtel and Agger has left the cramp stricken hero of Istanbul Jamie Carragher sat watching from the bench, whilst Lucas won player of the season in 2010/11 and was on course to do so last season before his horrific injury. And now Liverpool have a true edge of your seat striker in Luis Suarez with the ability to create something out of nothing, even if his finishing is a bit rushed at times. Thus bar the exceptional Xabi Alonso, the spine of this present Liverpool team is not severely weaker than its predecessor.

On paper then it should it be easy for Liverpool fans to be optimistic. They have a keeper comfortably in the top three in the league, a central defensive partnership that rivals any in the league, the countries outstanding performer at Euro 2012 as captain and a striker that no defender relishes playing against. Then why are Liverpool fans more cautious than ever?

This is where the experiences of those previous four years become apparent. The evident lack of investment by Hicks and Gillett after the successful 2008/9 season when they had hoped to push on, meant them watching as their rivals strengthened leaving Benitez furious. Moreover the sounding out of Jurgen Klinsmann as a replacement as the season was still in play most certainly filtered down through the club and had an adverse effect on the pitch. Not to mention the departure of Xabi Alonso which cannot be underestimated.

But the manner in which Roy Hodgson, then manager and figurehead, carelessly abandoned the long held principles of the club was incredibly hard for fans to stomach. Openly criticising players (Glen Johnson), defensive tactics sucking the spirit from the team; lack of support for Fernando Torres to accusations of diving by Mr Ferguson; constantly expounding the details of his illustrious career of consistent mediocrity, not to mention criticising the support of the fans themselves.

This Liverpool team didn’t lack quality, but lacked the management through which its quality could be channelled, evident in the dramatic upturn in performances and fortunes when Dalglish replaced Hodgson mid-season.

However, the following season saw this new found upturn in performances and optimism dashed as they slumped to a meager 8th place finish, leading Liverpool full circle and back to the drawing board once again it would seem. But is it that simple?

We are talking about a team who reached two domestic cup finals, winning one; a feat which meant they had to beat the best the league had to offer. Sides who which Liverpool’s league form against was no way poor and in most cases, notably at home against United, City and Arsenal, they were unlucky not to take maximum points. This was a story which became all so familiar when teams visited L4 as the home side dominated most games but failed at the most important stat whilst opposition goalkeepers had blinders and the woodwork seemed to grow an extra few inches. The team itself also lacked continuity with Lucas’ season stopped in its tracks before christmas, Gerrard’s and Johnson’s being stop start with injuries, as well the amount of new players needing to bed-in and the Luis Suarez affair not helping matters to name a few. As a result it was clear the team that Dalglish had was always going to be better at the one-off cup games when key players were available compared to a week to week basis where frequently forced changes meant they faltered.

Compare that current Liverpool spine to the likes of Spurs, Chelsea and Arsenal and there is little and far between. Therefore a more pressing issue for Liverpool Football Club and the root issue of why many fans of the club are left pondering what the season ahead has in store is not the lack of faith in the players but instead uncertainty over whether the right environment can be installed for those players to succeed whether it be through managerial skills or simply luck with injuries. In Rodgers Liverpool have a manager whose philosophy is a throw back to the club in the 80s when quick pass and move possession football was high on the agenda. An ideology one would assume would allow the likes of Jordan Henderson and Stewart Downing, two players who suffered poor seasons, to flourish, but on the other hand where do the likes of Andy Carroll and Charlie Adam fit in? Carroll experienced his best form as a Liverpool player in the tail end of last season but even now he is being touted in a possible loan move away from the club, providing evidence that Rodgers is insistent of stamping his ideas on the club rather than trying to devise the best formula for the players he has. An arrogance that although exciting or worrying, depending on how you view it, risks alienating certain players.

It is therefore an almost impossible and so far unanswered question as to what we can expect from Liverpool this upcoming season. They have the spine, but do they have the manager? Thus whatever complimenting words are said or written about Rogers, only time will tell if he can finally take Liverpool gradually but steadily back to ‘The Liverpool Way’

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Re: Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2012, 01:10:13 PM »
Well, its like an Opinion Piece in a newspaper, its well written and constructed.

My thoughts on it are: yes time will tell.

er that's it.

Because to be honest, if it had been published when Rodgers was announced as manager, it might have had some currency in time. But the article doesn't actually tell us much but facts about our recent past and doesn't enlighten or offer an argument for anything, there's no theory expounded here.

 I also have to take issue with your line

As a result it was clear the team that Dalglish had was always going to be better at the one-off cup games when key players were available compared to a week to week basis where frequently forced changes meant they faltered.


I don't think it always was clear.


RAWK always wants thought out pieces on the site and you're very welcome to carry on here.. I'm not sure what other writers would say, save to encourage you to continue. I'm not also sure how much of a fan you are of Liverpool but you're more than welcome to carry on posting good stuff on here. Hope that helps. :wave
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Re: Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2012, 01:35:32 PM »
Thanks for the feedback. I totally agree about it primarily focussing on the past. I suppose my point was me believing our team isn't as 'bad' as our league position reflected. This is my first piece I've written so of course I feel this is just a kind of draft and I hope to produce much better in the future.

Thanks for the offer to continue to post on here, I am a Liverpool fan and have posted on here in the past but nothing substantial, yet your encouragement may change that :)

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Re: Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2012, 02:00:40 PM »
It didn't all make total sense (the gist of the piece did, but there's a few sentences here and there that could do with being reworded) but otherwise, it's a good enough piece, particularly for your first effort.
Won't be able to help in terms of "credible" people to direct you to, but, well, good luck in your endeavour!

Out of curiosity, what type of English are you studying? Literature? Language? Journalism?
(I dabbled in Linguistics at York a few years ago)

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Re: Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2012, 02:05:44 PM »
Some of the best writing on Liverpool I have read has come on this site.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2012, 02:08:54 PM by BMW »

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Re: Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2012, 02:08:44 PM »
Well, its like an Opinion Piece in a newspaper, its well written and constructed.

It is nothing like an opinion piece a newspaper.  It is well written and constructed.  ;D

Very good piece.  Only thing I disagree with is that Skrtel wasn't included in the spine of the 2008/9 team, I'd definitely put him in there - he played more games than Agger (21 to 18) and was equally as important to that title challenge.

Only criticism is that the start of this sentence doesn't make sense: "Sides who which Liverpool’s league form against was no way poor and in most cases, notably at home against United, City and Arsenal, they were unlucky not to take maximum points."
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2012, 02:11:03 PM »
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Re: Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2012, 05:05:59 PM »
ponderous - 'awkward and unwieldly'

ponders - to weigh in the mind with thoughtfulness and care

is there a play on words going on or is it just the wrong word?

'Little and far between' - have not heard this expression before - few and far between means rare - 'little and far between' means 'not much difference'?

other than that I was left wondering what style you were going for - at times it seems to be biased to a Liverpool supporter view - its  a long time since we were universally respected for our knowledge of football - respect seemed to disapear with Sky and the rise of the armchair experts if thats not an oxymoron - can armchair experts rise? At other times it seems to try and look form a neutral perspective.

Likewise the message we are all a bit in the dark about how the hell we'll play and who'll be in the team and dreading being Barca lite (well thats mainly just me) - if you are aiming for being a writer I think you'll need something unique to hang your hat on and get noticed, a different perspective from the norm, whether thats more intense, more direct, more imaginative, more insightful, more stats, less stats, whatever I dont know but something that suits your personality and reflects you - something that people can associate with or want to read - there are lots of people out there wanting to do what it is you want to do - what gives you the edge?

one tip dont go for the boring, using too many words approach I've got that one nailed

anyhow good luck - tough gig
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Re: Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2012, 05:50:38 PM »
Firstly, good piece. Second, I mainly write fiction, so in terms of contacts I can't give much advice there.

All I can say is: remember your audience and know what you are trying to say.

Who is this aimed at? There's some long sentences in there, probably not going to appear in the Echo, but does it have the depth for a site like Tomkins or Swiss Ramble, or the Guardian Sports monthly?

As you say, Liverpool fans consider themselves knowledgable about the game, and certainly about the recent history of the club, but if this is for a general audience, does it possibly look a little biased?

And finally, what is your argument? State your case, back it up, conclude and get out.

Hope some of that is helpful.

If not, hope you can find what you are looking for.

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Re: Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2012, 06:19:06 PM »
ponderous - 'awkward and unwieldly'

ponders - to weigh in the mind with thoughtfulness and care

is there a play on words going on or is it just the wrong word?

'Little and far between' - have not heard this expression before - few and far between means rare - 'little and far between' means 'not much difference'?

other than that I was left wondering what style you were going for - at times it seems to be biased to a Liverpool supporter view - its  a long time since we were universally respected for our knowledge of football - respect seemed to disapear with Sky and the rise of the armchair experts if thats not an oxymoron - can armchair experts rise? At other times it seems to try and look form a neutral perspective.

Likewise the message we are all a bit in the dark about how the hell we'll play and who'll be in the team and dreading being Barca lite (well thats mainly just me) - if you are aiming for being a writer I think you'll need something unique to hang your hat on and get noticed, a different perspective from the norm, whether thats more intense, more direct, more imaginative, more insightful, more stats, less stats, whatever I dont know but something that suits your personality and reflects you - something that people can associate with or want to read - there are lots of people out there wanting to do what it is you want to do - what gives you the edge?

one tip dont go for the boring, using too many words approach I've got that one nailed

anyhow good luck - tough gig

Perhaps he meant to say "pensive about" rather than "ponerous over"?  Makes more sense to me anyway

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Re: Aspiring Writer in Need of Some Leads
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2012, 11:10:09 PM »
I think it's great to have an ambition and good luck in realising it. You recognise that you need experience and writing for a website like Rawk would both help you and would also benefit our site. You've obviously put alot of thought and effort into your post and that's something we would like to encourage. I agree with Hinesy that it sounded like an opinion piece in tone and good opinion writing is of the moment, it links up different ideas and presents it in a way the reader thinks, yeah that makes sense but it also challenges the reader.
 
I thought the structure was good and enjoyed it, I think you need to be careful that you don't over-complicate your sentences, often less is more. However the key to great writing isn't technical ability but passion. Great writers combine both, with experience there's no reason you can't emulate them.
 
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2012, 06:06:54 PM »
Lad, if you're going to write, nothing will stop you. But be warned, it will try it's awfully gosh darned hardest to.
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