Topic: ALL Liverpool transfer targets and discussion here - LEARN THE RULES THOUGH - IV

[Asam]

Define Long pass.
Whether it's 10 yards or 40 yards, we'll need to draw the opposition out to enable the pass to be made.
Like it or not, we'll need a Plan B. Because we have neither the players, nor the time to fully implement Plan  A before the start of the season. It would be tactical suicide for us to rely on 'pass and move' and not be in a position to alter our style slightly.
As was said earlier, I think we're in for a season of sideways/backwards passing, which is probably why we won't shift Downing, he's made for it.

Look at Swansea, Dyer & Sinclair injected huge amounts of pace and skill in the final third, our midfield will control the ball and ensure we keep it, the forwards will increase the tempo of play, one and two touch passing, third man running, is all that is required to break teams down, if it doesn't work it's because we've been too predictable with our pattern of play, too one paced or finishing poorly

[peachybum]

Holtby & Draxler playing on ESPNUK right now.

There's been nothing on these two for weeks now, right?

[peachybum]

Really?

That's interesting, so we weren't fixed in a 433 pass and move style then?

I was hoping Brendan would use a 'hybrid' system, perhaps a 4231 evolving into his preferred 433.

Yes but the wide forwards were staying very wide. The fullbacks for Toronto were more tucked in so our midfield could ping balls crossfield to the widemans feet.

Our wide forwards actually got alot of ball. If we'd have had the like of Downing, Suarez etc rather than Ibe they would have done some damage.

[L666KOP]

Look at Swansea, Dyer & Sinclair injected huge amounts of pace and skill in the final third, our midfield will control the ball and ensure we keep it, the forwards will increase the tempo of play, one and two touch passing, third man running, is all that is required to break teams down, if it doesn't work it's because we've been too predictable with our pattern of play, too one paced or finishing poorly

Something we don't have at present.
I'm confident that Lucas Gerrard and Allen? could hold the ball well and move it around though.
Another reason it may not work is because we haven't had the time to implement it properly.

[L666KOP]

Yes but the wide forwards were staying very wide. The fullbacks for Toronto were more tucked in so our midfield could ping balls crossfield to the widemans feet.

Our wide forwards actually got alot of ball. If we'd have had the like of Downing, Suarez etc rather than Ibe they would have done some damage.

There's your Plan B.
Move the wide forwards out to stretch the defence, and rely on runners from midfield to exploit the gaps they leave.

[Art Vandelay]

Isn't it a good idea to sort out your Plan B, after you've actually got a Plan A working first?  It seems obvious that Rodgers is targeting players that would fit into his way of playing, if that means we finally have a decent enough Plan A that we can actually win a decent wodge of games then who cares who is sold to achieve it?  In an ideal world we'd have 'different options' coming out of our wazoo....unfortunately we don't live in an ideal world.

[Regi]

Isn't it a good idea to sort out your Plan B, after you've actually got a Plan A working first?  It seems obvious that Rodgers is targeting players that would fit into his way of playing, if that means we finally have a decent enough Plan A that we can actually win a decent wodge of games then who cares who is sold to achieve it?

Been banging that drum for weeks mate.
Doesn't seem to sink in.
Everyone is freaking out about the lack of a Plan B coming off a season where we didn't really have a consistent Plan A.
Give us a good Plan A that we produce on a consistent basis and we'll work on the Plan B later.
Thankfully the manager is looking at players to fit his Plan A instead of not doing so to accommodate am extremely expensive Plan B

[ReddyMac]

Holtby & Draxler playing on ESPNUK right now.

There's been nothing on these two for weeks now, right?

How are they playing mate?

[Stigathedump]

Been banging that drum for weeks mate.
Doesn't seem to sink in.
Everyone is freaking out about the lack of a Plan B coming off a season where we didn't really have a consistent Plan A.
Give us a good Plan A that we produce on a consistent basis and we'll work on the Plan B later.
Thankfully the manager is looking at players to fit his Plan A instead of not doing so to accommodate am extremely expensive Plan B

If we need any kind of plan we should definitely call the A-TEAM

[Asam]

Something we don't have at present.
I'm confident that Lucas Gerrard and Allen? could hold the ball well and move it around though.
Another reason it may not work is because we haven't had the time to implement it properly.

We have one of the best dribblers in the league in Suarez and hopefully we will be strengthening the other flank

[Shady77]

Give us a brief synopsis then. Calculate the cash available for transfers and wages, remembering to factor in amortisation and include transfer cash in plus the trimmed wage bill.

Please show your workings below.

look yourself ,someone worked it out + showed there findings money in/out e.t.c + posted it on RAWK somewhere, seek + you shall find lad

[Skrtels Head]

Been banging that drum for weeks mate.
Doesn't seem to sink in.
Everyone is freaking out about the lack of a Plan B coming off a season where we didn't really have a consistent Plan A.
Give us a good Plan A that we produce on a consistent basis and we'll work on the Plan B later.
Thankfully the manager is looking at players to fit his Plan A instead of not doing so to accommodate am extremely expensive Plan B

Plan A = Luis Suarez. Plan B = Luis Suarez. Plan C = Luis Suarez. Plan D = Luis Suarez. Plan E = Luis Suarez. Plan F = Luis Suarez. Plan G = Luis Suarez. Plan H = Luis Suarez. Plan I = Luis Suarez. Plan J = Luis Suarez. Plan K = Luis Suarez. Plan L = Luis Suarez. Plan M = Luis Suarez. Plan N = Luis Suarez. Plan O = Luis Suarez. Plan P = Luis Suarez. Plan Q = Luis Suarez. Plan R = Luis Suarez. Plan S = Luis Suarez. Plan T = Luis Suarez. Plan U = Luis Suarez. Plan V = Luis Suarez. Plan W = Luis Suarez. Plan X = Luis Suarez. Plan Y = Luis Suarez.

I couldn't think of a plan Z.

[L666KOP]

We have one of the best dribblers in the league in Suarez and hopefully we will be strengthening the other flank

You'll see I only bolded the pace bit.
 

Craft and guile are well taken care of with Luis.

[Asam]

Plan A = Luis Suarez. Plan B = Luis Suarez. Plan C = Luis Suarez. Plan D = Luis Suarez. Plan E = Luis Suarez. Plan F = Luis Suarez. Plan G = Luis Suarez. Plan H = Luis Suarez. Plan I = Luis Suarez. Plan J = Luis Suarez. Plan K = Luis Suarez. Plan L = Luis Suarez. Plan M = Luis Suarez. Plan N = Luis Suarez. Plan O = Luis Suarez. Plan P = Luis Suarez. Plan Q = Luis Suarez. Plan R = Luis Suarez. Plan S = Luis Suarez. Plan T = Luis Suarez. Plan U = Luis Suarez. Plan V = Luis Suarez. Plan W = Luis Suarez. Plan X = Luis Suarez. Plan Y = Luis Suarez.

I couldn't think of a plan Z.

Charlie Adams?

[Filler.]

We have one of the best dribblers in the league in Suarez and hopefully we will be strengthening the other flank

It's funny, but I've never seen Suarez as a dribbler. MacManamon was... Suarez is a battler really. Moot maybe.


There are two things that are important in wide players in forward roles:

1) good with both feet
2) can use both feet

[L666KOP]

It's funny, but I've never seen Suarez as a dribbler. MacManamon was... Suarez is a battler really. Moot maybe.


There are two things that are important in wide players in forward roles:

1) good with both feet
2) can use both feet

Ambidextrous, but with your feet.

Pedidextrous?
 

[Skrtels Head]

Charlie Adams?

That is genius 

[WraithXx]

Plan A = Luis Suarez. Plan B = Luis Suarez. Plan C = Luis Suarez. Plan D = Luis Suarez. Plan E = Luis Suarez. Plan F = Luis Suarez. Plan G = Luis Suarez. Plan H = Luis Suarez. Plan I = Luis Suarez. Plan J = Luis Suarez. Plan K = Luis Suarez. Plan L = Luis Suarez. Plan M = Luis Suarez. Plan N = Luis Suarez. Plan O = Luis Suarez. Plan P = Luis Suarez. Plan Q = Luis Suarez. Plan R = Luis Suarez. Plan S = Luis Suarez. Plan T = Luis Suarez. Plan U = Luis Suarez. Plan V = Luis Suarez. Plan W = Luis Suarez. Plan X = Luis Suarez. Plan Y = Luis Suarez.

I couldn't think of a plan Z.

re-sign and play Kyrgiakos up top.

[Skrtels Head]

re-sign and play Kyrgiakos up top.

See..... Everything's gonna be just fine.

[Asam]

See..... Everything's gonna be just fine.

Don't need him we've got Coates

[peachybum]

How are they playing mate?

Holtby hit the post with a sitter so he'd fit in well here 

[Andy]

Charlie Adams?

both of them?

[Lenin]

Charlie Adams?

Charlie Adams what?

[L666KOP]

Charlie Adams what?

Lumbering gait ?
 

[Asam]

Charlie Adams what?

Just is.

[Shady77]

Just is.

think their trying to point out that its Charlie Adam not Adams + a proper fan imo would know that, like you wouldn't say jonjo shelveys would you

[Camarero25]

It's funny, but I've never seen Suarez as a dribbler. MacManamon was... Suarez is a battler really. Moot maybe.

Seriously? Suarez is the best dribbler in the league for me. It might not be a particularly pretty or technically clean style of dribbling, but it's bloody effective.

[Aido LFC]

Seriously? Suarez is the best dribbler in the league for me. It might not be a particularly pretty or technically clean style of dribbling, but it's bloody effective.

Nah he doesn't do step overs and that ya know?

[El_Pistolero]

Fumble football.

[FernandoSusoLFC]

Brendan Rodegers would be ready to hit a new market, as it bounces from the tabloids. The coach of Liverpool have made ​​an offer of 10 million pounds to get to Joe Allen , twenty-two midfielder who had with him at Swansea City, ingolosendo the Welsh with the loan of a season of Jonjo Shelvey

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/?action=read&id=371235

[farawayred]

Disappointing thread... 56 pages and no mention of David Villa... Previous versions of this topic have done better...   

[L666KOP]

Disappointing thread... 56 pages and no mention of David Villa... Previous versions of this topic have done better...   

And if I'm not mistaken, nobody has been seen at JLA yet ?

[RaveDave]

From the Echo

LIVERPOOL FC are closing in on a deal to bring Swansea City midfielder Joe Allen to Anfield.

Boss Brendan Rodgers, whose side face Roma in a friendly at Boston's Fenway Park on Wednesday night (11.30pm BST), is keen to be reunited with the talented Wales international and has made signing him his priority in the transfer market.

Allen has a release clause in his contract which is triggered if one of five Premier League clubs bid £15million for his services.

Liverpool are one of those named in the four-year deal he penned last August, along with Manchester United, Manchester City, Arsenal and Chelsea.

That has complicated matters as Tottenham, who are vying with the Reds for his signature, aren't subject to meeting that amount and could effectively land him for a lower fee.

However, while Liverpool are reluctant to pay £15million, they remain confident a compromise will soon be reached with the Swans.

The highly-rated 22-year-old playmaker, who is currently involved with Team GB at the Olympics, has his heart set on a move to Anfield and should be on board prior to the start of the Premier League campaign.

When Rodgers left the Liberty Stadium to take over as Liverpool manager on June 1 he agreed with Swansea chairman Huw Jenkins not to raid their talent for 12 months.

But it has since emerged that if a Swansea player becomes available to buy then Rodgers is free to join the chase.

Having been desperate to keep hold of Allen, new Swans boss Michael Laudrup is now increasingly resigned to losing him.

Laudrup said: “You can force players to stay but how does that help? It’s better to find a solution that suits both parties.

“We just have to wait and see if an offer comes.”

As Liverpool look to wrap up a deal for Allen, they are no closer to completing a move for Fulham's Clint Dempsey.

The Cottagers are refusing to budge from their £10million asking price for the USA international.

Liverpool won't pay that fee for a 29-year-old who only has 12 months remaining on his current deal.

Fulham are desperate to keep Dempsey, who scored 23 goals in all competitions last season, and have now offered him a lucrative new contract in a bid to convince him to stay.

Rodgers has so far only added £11million striker Fabio Borini, who flew into Boston on Monday night, to the squad he inherited.

The Northern Irishman is hoping to sell those who are surplus to requirements in order to boost his transfer kitty.

No permanent bids have been received for Andy Carroll since Newcastle failed in an attempt to take him back to the North East on a season-long loan.

The Reds will consider offers of around £20million and if none are forthcoming Carroll will remain at Anfield.

[Aquilani 4]

Swansea stick to guns and reject player-plus-cash deal for Joe Allen

Gary Jacob
Published 1 minute ago

Swansea City have indicated that they will not accept a knockdown fee for Joe Allen or any makeweights from Liverpool after they turned down a player-plus-cash deal for the Wales midfield player.

Liverpool had been willing to pay Swansea in the region of £10 million and allow a squad player, believed to be Jonjo Shelvey, to move to the Liberty Stadium on loan for next season, but the offer was rejected by Huw Jenkins, the Swansea chairman.

Swansea’s valuation of Allen stands at £15 million, in keeping with an exit clause that was inserted in the four-year contract signed by the 22-year-old last summer.

Although Allen has not asked to leave Swansea, his present club recognise the attraction of a potential move to Merseyside, where the midfield player would be reunited with Brendan Rodgers, the new Liverpool manager who arrived at Anfield from the South Wales club last month.

Jenkins, though, is adamant that the full valuation must be met before he considers sanctioning the departure of Swansea’s most prized asset.

Tottenham Hotspur are also interested in Allen, who is in the Great Britain Olympic squad, and could make a move should Luka Modric finally complete a transfer to Real Madrid. But Liverpool remain favourites to capture Allen’s signature.

The complication for Liverpool is Rodgers’s agreement with Swansea not to return to his former club to try to sign any of their players for the next 12 months. It is understood, however, that the accord can be dropped at Swansea’s request if a deal suits them, meaning that it is up to Liverpool to make an offer for Allen that is too good to be turned down.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article3485916.ece

[HELLRAZOR]

jesus are spurs ever not interested in someone we want

[newterp]

What an odd transfer window. We are 7 days from our first competitive game and about 2+ weeks from the start of the EPL season - not remotely near capturing our targets or selling our players. Just odd.

[L666KOP]

jesus are spurs ever not interested in someone we want

Pity the tw@ts didn't gazzump us for Downing, Harry did try for Adam though, so he did try and help us out.

[Ronanoman]

What an odd transfer window. We are 7 days from our first competitive game and about 2+ weeks from the start of the EPL season - not remotely near capturing our targets or selling our players. Just odd.

Think it was Rodgers that said deals would happen very early or very late because of the tournaments this summer.

[peachybum]

£15m for Allen is too much. Would rather Rodgers just work on Henderson and Shelvey to make them better.

[mb1111]

about 2+ weeks from the start of the EPL season

3 and a half weeks more like. Earlier the better but it doesnt really matter when as long as they are the right players.