Author Topic: RAWK Ashes Draft Discussion Thread (Read 11922 times)

StevenLFC · « **on:** July 17, 2012, 05:43:51 PM »

This thread can be used to discuss any issues/selections etc regarding the RAWK Ashes draft. The Selection Thread (complete with draft order & rules) can be found by clicking the following link:

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=295658

Saint Kopite™ · « **Reply #1 on:** July 17, 2012, 05:45:22 PM »

I see no link. $:-\$

Danyaals Kop · « **Reply #2 on:** July 17, 2012, 05:46:38 PM »

Quote from: Saint Kopite™ on July 17, 2012, 05:45:22 PM

I see no link. $:-\$

StevenLFC · « **Reply #3 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:13:24 PM »

Link is now available & selection thread is up & running.

Z e u s · « **Reply #4 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:18:29 PM »

Good work Steven.

WEST HAM PAUL · « **Reply #5 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:24:38 PM »

Good stuff mate. I actually agree with the no time limit as with Cricket drafts you need to look at players stats & figures which can take time where as Football most of us can think who's done what of the top of your head.

I would like to clarify one think though Steven when the voting eventually commences.

Are we basing votes purely on players performances in Ashes Tests not there complete career.

So stats for your players need to be good in Ashes when we eventually do our write ups.

StevenLFC · « **Reply #6 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:34:24 PM »

I'd say we vote on them during their entire career as stats in just a few matches can be misleading, what does everyone think of that?

WEST HAM PAUL · « **Reply #7 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:39:30 PM »

Quote from: StevenLFC on July 17, 2012, 06:34:24 PM

I'd say we vote on them during their entire career as stats in just a few matches can be misleading, what does everyone think of that?

I'm happy with entire career but it could be stated in write ups etc that if you want to add any particular Ashes stats you can & may help towards votes. If you don't want to that's fine aswell

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #8 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:39:31 PM »

Definitely needs to be weighted to favour Ashes performances, if not stats IMO

What's the procedure Mr Mod? · « **Reply #9 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:43:03 PM »

weighted to favour ashes stats...

WEST HAM PAUL · « **Reply #10 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:46:40 PM »

For an Ashes draft then Ashes performances should really be the judge.
that would be my preference

Just trying to be open to opinions

Z e u s · « **Reply #11 on:** July 17, 2012, 06:48:19 PM »

Quote from: The 5th Benitle on July 17, 2012, 06:39:31 PM

Definitely needs to be weighted to favour Ashes performances, if not stats IMO

Mitchell Johnson does not like this!

StevenLFC · « **Reply #12 on:** July 17, 2012, 07:21:21 PM »

Ok, we will go with based on Ashes performances only.

StevenLFC · « **Reply #13 on:** July 17, 2012, 09:15:51 PM »

I've PM'd the members of the first team, so once they've picked we will be underway.

AirConGipsyRed · « **Reply #14 on:** July 17, 2012, 09:36:13 PM »

Sorry for the delay guys,

Anyway, we went for Warney!

Wouldn't everyone first pick?!

StevenLFC · « **Reply #15 on:** July 17, 2012, 10:23:51 PM »

Quote from: AirConGipsyRed on July 17, 2012, 09:36:13 PM

Sorry for the delay guys,

Anyway, we went for Warney!

Wouldn't everyone first pick?!

I honestly wouldn't have picked Warne if I had 1st choice if I'm being honest. Did you PM the next side?

Filler. · « **Reply #16 on:** July 17, 2012, 10:45:45 PM »

Have PM'd Sorted about a choice... (I've turned up late to the game here, but at least I missed out on having to roll the pitch). OK... Warne eh? Who's next? A number 6?... and number 1, or a 3... or an 8. Hmnnn. We'll be back with an answer soon...

AirConGipsyRed · « **Reply #17 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:52:42 AM »

Quote from: StevenLFC on July 17, 2012, 10:23:51 PM

I honestly wouldn't have picked Warne if I had 1st choice if I'm being honest. Did you PM the next side?

Really?

Not the best cricketer I have seen in my lifetime?

Mehh

GreatEx · « **Reply #18 on:** July 18, 2012, 01:16:14 AM »

Warnie is a bit overrated in career terms (and I say that not only as an Australian but as a Victorian, and one of his biggest fans) but if you are weighting in favour of Ashes performances then I would put him second only to Bradman.

AirConGipsyRed · « **Reply #19 on:** July 18, 2012, 01:33:16 AM »

Quote from: GreatEx on July 18, 2012, 01:16:14 AM

Warnie is a bit overrated in career terms (and I say that not only as an Australian but as a Victorian, and one of his biggest fans) but if you are weighting in favour of Ashes performances then I would put him second only to Bradman.

If only Bradman had played in 1970. He would have got the first draft pick.

nicholasanthony · « **Reply #20 on:** July 18, 2012, 09:39:10 AM »

Good areas AirCon.

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #21 on:** July 18, 2012, 09:46:42 AM »

Honestly Filler, how long can it take a swing bowling purist like you to pick between Phil Newport and Richard Ellison?

Filler. · « **Reply #22 on:** July 18, 2012, 09:50:09 AM »

Quote from: The 5th Benitle on July 18, 2012, 09:46:42 AM

Honestly Filler, how long can it take a swing bowling purist like you to pick between Phil Newport and Richard Ellison?

Ah... Richard Ellison. Now he had a nice out-swinger. We're PM'ing at the mo... a few names in the hat, decision to come shortly.

Welshred · « **Reply #23 on:** July 18, 2012, 10:13:50 AM »

Anyone know a website where we can specifically get the stats for players in Ashes tests? All I've been able to find so far are sites with just career stats, which sucks.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #24 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:07:34 AM »

Quote from: Welshred on July 18, 2012, 10:13:50 AM

Anyone know a website where we can specifically get the stats for players in Ashes tests? All I've been able to find so far are sites with just career stats, which sucks.

If you go on the Stats thing on cricinfo you can filter by different criteria so you'll be able to select on records againsta certain opponent.

Gerrvindh · « **Reply #25 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:10:05 AM »

Quote from: Welshred on July 18, 2012, 10:13:50 AM

Anyone know a website where we can specifically get the stats for players in Ashes tests? All I've been able to find so far are sites with just career stats, which sucks.

Quote from: Crosby Nick on July 18, 2012, 11:07:34 AM

If you go on the Stats thing on cricinfo you can filter by different criteria so you'll be able to select on records againsta certain opponent.

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/guru/

Welshred · « **Reply #26 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:13:44 AM »

Cheers both

funnily enough I tried cricinfo but couldn't see it.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #27 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:24:54 AM »

Quote from: Welshred on July 18, 2012, 11:13:44 AM

Cheers both funnily enough I tried cricinfo but couldn't see it.

Don't beat yourself up about it. nicholasanthony uses the cricinfo stats and yet he can't see that Alastair Cook is world class. Some things that seem obvious to some just don't get spotted by others...

*stands back*

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #28 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:26:11 AM »

*sniggers*

nicholasanthony · « **Reply #29 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:30:07 AM »

Welshred · « **Reply #30 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:42:28 AM »

Quote from: Crosby Nick on July 18, 2012, 11:24:54 AM

Don't beat yourself up about it. nicholasanthony uses the cricinfo stats and yet he can't see that Alastair Cook is world class. Some things that seem obvious to some just don't get spotted by others...

*stands back*

It's certainly made me think about our potential next pick a bit though, and not for the role I initially considered him for although he could be good there. My first choice for the position will definitely be taken up before we get the choice to pick I'm sure.

GreatEx · « **Reply #31 on:** July 18, 2012, 11:43:45 AM »

Quote from: AirConGipsyRed on July 18, 2012, 01:33:16 AM

If only Bradman had played in 1970. He would have got the first draft pick.

I will read the rules and adjust my opinions forthwith.

Filler. · « **Reply #32 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:31:21 PM »

OK... we've plumped for the Beefy one. And the bars are now all empty in anticipation...

StevenLFC · « **Reply #33 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:32:09 PM »

Good man. Make sure you PM the next team please guys.

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #34 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:34:38 PM »

Botham over Simon O'Donnell and Chris Lewis? You blokes are wasting those precious first picks

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #35 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:37:46 PM »

Lfsea has maintained radio silence for the last few days. Either that or he's just ignoring my PMs. Either way, there's trouble at mill...

The 5th Benitle · « **Reply #36 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:43:46 PM »

Sounds like just the excuse you need to pick Bresnan, Nick

StevenLFC · « **Reply #37 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:45:13 PM »

Quote from: The 5th Benitle on July 18, 2012, 12:43:46 PM

Sounds like just the excuse you need to pick Bresnan, Nick

Welshred · « **Reply #38 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:53:16 PM »

Quote from: Filler. on July 18, 2012, 12:31:21 PM

OK... we've plumped for the Beefy one. And the bars are now all empty in anticipation...

You've gone for a failed footballer as your first pick? Strange

Welshred · « **Reply #39 on:** July 18, 2012, 12:54:07 PM »

Quote from: Crosby Nick on July 18, 2012, 12:37:46 PM

Lfsea has maintained radio silence for the last few days. Either that or he's just ignoring my PMs. Either way, there's trouble at mill...

God help him if the decision has been left in your hands